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Ping launches new G400 Max driver, the “most forgiving driver in golf”

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As initially expected, the Ping G400 Max driver that officially launched today is made for more forgiveness, with a larger construction than it’s original G400 family members. In 2017, Ping launched its G400 driver line that included a standard model, a draw-biased SF Tec and a fade-biased LS Tec, each of which measured 445cc — below the 460cc legal limit of the USGA. Despite the smaller sizes, which helped reduce drag for more club head speed, they were actually more forgiving than their G-family predecessors due to aerodynamic improvements, thinner crowns, strategically-placed Tungsten weights and a new TS9+ titanium face.

Now, Ping’s new G400 Max driver has even more forgiveness than the already super-forgiving G400 drivers due to its larger size and additional weight in the rear of the golf club. Like the original G400 drivers, the G400 Max has a rear tungsten weight, except it’s even farther back and actually wraps around the sole of the G400 Max. The design means CG (center of gravity) is extremely low and rearward in the club head, and MOI (moment of inertia, a measure of forgiveness) is the highest reported on the market… or in other words, according to Ping, it’s the most forgiving driver out.

“Our engineers focused on increasing the forgiveness of the driver while maintaining the distance gains and powerful sound of the original G400 driver,” said John Solheim, the president of Ping. “It’s remarkable how long and straight the G400 Max flies. The forgiveness is off the charts and leads to tighter dispersion, which reveals just how consistent your distance and accuracy results will be on the golf course. We encourage all golfers to get fit and look closely at their dispersion, not just their one best shot on a launch monitor.”

When you hear about max forgiveness, you typically assume it’s a game-improvement driver that’s made for high-handicappers, right? While this driver will help recreational golfers who need help on off-center hits, the G400 Max driver is already in the bags of Ping staffers Aaron Baddeley and Seamus Power, and non-staffer Tony Finau, one of the longest drivers on the PGA Tour. According to Ping, despite having a larger size than the original G400 drivers, the G400 Max is still able to produce speed because of its forged, heat-treated T9S+ face that has a “thinner, hotter” impact area that raises ball speed.

Like the G400 drivers, the G400 Max comes stock with an Alta CB (counterbalanced) shaft that uses special, color-shifting paint technology to look great on the shelf with its copper color, but it looks black at address to reduce distractions. Read more about the shaft technology here. Ping’s Alta CB shaft is available in 55 (SR, R, S or X flex). Additional shaft options include Ping’s Tour 65 or 75 (R, S or X) for a $35 upcharge, or the following aftermarket shaft options for a $75 upcharge: Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Silver Dual-Core TiNi 60 (R, S or X flex), Project X HZRDUS Yellow 75 (5.5, 6.0 or 6.5 flex) or Aldila’s X-Torsion Copper (50R or 60S) shaft.

Ping’s G400 Max drivers, which are available now for pre-order, come in 9 and 10.5 degree options and with Golf Pride Tour Velvet 360 grips. They start selling for $435 apiece, plus any additional upcharges for shafts.

Discussion: See what GolfWRX members are saying about the Ping G400 Max drivers in our forums.

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  1. Philip

    Jan 15, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    Okay, the last version reduced from 460 to 445 which helped to make it more forgiving and now they go back to 460 to make it more forgiving (with all of the other stuff for each version to of course). I wonder how they measure forgiveness … is it having 1000’s of real average golfers hitting balls and then tabulating the results between versions? Is it using a machine with a perfect swing? Or, is it more marketing fluff than anything else?

  2. Robert Parsons

    Jan 15, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    I would want to try a G400 Max LST.

    • Carl Schillinger

      Jan 15, 2018 at 4:03 pm

      Not available in the SFT or LST head.

      • Walter

        Jan 15, 2018 at 4:18 pm

        IOW it’s a gearhead hacker driver promising power and distance. Nothing new here.

  3. Watson

    Jan 15, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    Highest loft is 10.5º which means it’s only good for 100+++mph swing speeds.
    I just bought, for $40, a mint condition PING G2 400cc driver with 15.5º lofts to match my declining swing speed. It’s got a 47″ stock TFC 100D with Soft Regular shaft with ‘Tip Flex Control’ feature.
    It’s an oversized 3-wood which I can confidently hit 220+/- yards. The flex is high but I can handle it with my slower swing speed. It plays like a whippy hickory shafted driver!
    A perfect club for an aging golfer who once hit 250+ regularly. Fortunately my short game and putting is still fantastic.

  4. Jerry

    Jan 15, 2018 at 12:37 pm

    I can see pros swinging at 115-130 wanting more forgiveness. But I’m swingin at max 95 mph and with a decent swing, I really enjoy the sweet feel/sound and uber forgiveness of the G400.

  5. mM

    Jan 15, 2018 at 11:30 am

    I love this advertorial… it says the Max is larger than the 445 of the original G400. But doesn’t say what size it is.
    Well done Ping. Not.

    • Milton Gombo

      Jan 15, 2018 at 12:58 pm

      460cc. Shape may be more like the original ‘G’ design, which I preferred anyway.
      If you want to rant about Ping- why can’t they arrange a head-only exchange program, as there is nothing wrong with my G400 Tour 65 shaft? This new Max w/ Tour shaft runs $470, and the PGA trade in value for my 1 month old G400 is $135. They would have locked me in sight unseen with a head-only exchange program. Now I’ll be testing other brands as well.

      • Jerry

        Jan 15, 2018 at 1:38 pm

        Doubt if 15cc will make a difference. Find the shaft you like and bomb away. I did not like any of the stock offerings, did not care for the Tour Shaft, nothing special to me, and it took several months to find a shaft – using a VA Shafts 55, and have a TPT Golf 54g shaft when they release the new version this month after the show. I think shaft is key here. More than enough forgiveness.

    • Carl Schillinger

      Jan 15, 2018 at 4:02 pm

      It has a 460 cc head.

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Making golf easier: Single length vs hybrid irons? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing directions to take to make golf as easy as possible. WRXer ‘SugarLandGolfer’ kicks off the discussion, saying:

“I see two paths to make the game easier:

1) Hybrid irons with shafts to keep the flight down

2) Single length irons

I did a demo day with Cleveland recent and tried the launchers with i95 steelfiber shafts, and they felt amazing. Only hit the 8 iron, and it felt like hitting the ball with a sledgehammer. However, I’m still concerned about the longer clubs. Hence single length.

If you were making the easiest to play set, which direction would you go, and why?”

And our members have been having their say on the matter in our forums.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • NoTalentLefty: “Lessons for sure, but there are a few ways to do it. Hybrids for the 3 thru 5 6 or 7 irons is also a way. Offset in irons and hybrids, fairway woods, etc. Single length, as you say. It’s a great thought, but the only way the game got easier for me was golfing a lot. Then as I got older and was familiar with the swing, I filled in what clubs to play. I’m 60+ now and the only club I never Been comfortable with since the advent of the 400+ CC head Is the driver. Godspeed on your search.”
  • dlygrisse: “I like the idea of going shorter steps between clubs, say 1 /4 to 3/8”. I believe some custom fitters think this is the way to go. I’ve also seen sets where the short irons are say 8-LW at 36” than the 5-7 are 37” and the long irons or hybrids are 38”. I’ve always wanted to try a similar set.”
  • jomatty: “If you wanted something super easy but not hybrids, I would look at the Cleveland uhx. I’ve got a 20 degree 4 iron, and it is very easy to hit. Going to a Cleveland launcher style club does make it a lot easier t9 hit the ball in the air and make solid contact. It has really helped my wife and is something I would consider.”
  • pinestreetgolf: “Neither one. It’s like asking us which is easier to put on, a small shirt or an XXL shirt? Well, it kinda matters what size you are. Your swing determines which is “easier”. The question itself belies a fundamental misunderstanding about how to shoot a low score, and that is correlating golf and golf swing. Your basic question is “which of these clubs makes playing golf swing easier” when that has relatively little to do with your score. Golf is a game of decisions. It is much closer to chess than tennis. You score lower when you make better decisions. Mechanics and equipment help (a lot) but they do it inside the context of an overall game and the way you swing. There is no objective answer to getting better except figuring out how to get the ball in the hole in fewer strokes. There is no answer to this question.”

Entire Thread: “Making golf easier: Single length vs hybrid irons?”

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In our forums, our members have been discussing their latest great find in the equipment department. WRXer ‘Double Dodger’ kicks off the thread with his choice of The Grip Master’s perforated leather grips, saying:

“They are amazing! I play without a glove and have psoriatic arthritis and have never felt a grip like this before. No issues whatsoever with slipping. No issues with harshness.

I have played about 30 rounds and see absolutely no wear at all, and the tackiness is unbelievable.”

And our members have been discussing the piece of equipment they’ve found in the last year that has changed their game.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • uglande: “Ventus Blue shafts.”
  • NoTalentLefty: “The Callaway B21 Fairway woods. Got the 3 and is it easy to hit.”
  • spring7: “I am not sure I have been happier with more clubs in my bag at any single time, and I have been doing this a long time! Cobra Speedzone Extreme Yellow HzDRUS Smoke – Longer and straighter than anything I have hit! TEE EXS Pro 15* Tensi Orange- Still honeymooning, but amazing off the tee and fairway, bad swings are punished though. Callaway MD5 Jaws 54 X Grind, perfection every way.”
  • Pepperturbo: “My most exciting find has been 620MB’s irons, specifically PW, 9i but 7i at 150yds uphill. It’s like aiming and shooting at a target and the ball sticks. Second best has been Ventus Velocore shafts. They be keeping this ole man in the game.”
  • mizunotps: “G410 plus driver. Really easy to hit.”

Entire Thread: “Single best piece of equipment you’ve found lately?”

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GolfWRX Classifieds (9/30/20): Miura heads, Cobra combo set, Odyssey Triple Track Ten

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At GolfWRX, we love golf equipment plain and simple.

We are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment for the game in many ways. It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball, it even allows us to share another thing – the equipment itself.

One of the best ways to enjoy equipment is to experiment and whether you are looking to buy-sell-or trade (as the name suggests) you can find almost anything in the GolfWRX BST Forum. From one-off custom Scotty Cameron Circle T putters, to iron sets, wedges, and barely hit drivers, you can find it all in our constantly updated marketplace.

These are some of the latest cool finds from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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Be the King of your next foursome with a sweet new set of Cobra King forged combo irons.

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For all you club builders out there, here is your chance to build your very own set of Miura irons, and if you are in need of some shafts, this listing has those too!

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If you struggle with alignment, this is your ticket! The Odyssey Triple Track has a proven “track record” (yeah, I went there) of helping golfers line up better and sink more putts.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: Triple Track putter 

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