Equipment
SPOTTED: Srixon “Z785” and “Z585” irons
Photos have recently popped up in our GolfWRX Forums of Srixon “Z785” and “Z585” irons. It’s been nearly two years since the company released it’s previous Z565, Z765 and Z965 irons, so it’s possible (if not likely), based on nomenclature, these could be the replacements for that series.
The photos in our forums show Z785 short irons (5-PW) and Z785 long irons (4 and 3), but it does not appear that the Z785 irons shown in the photos are driving irons, so it’s likely these photos come from a mixed set.
We do not have any official tech or release information about new irons from Srixon at this time, so we’re left to speculate for the time being. What do you think about the photos of these Srixon “Z785” and “Z585” irons?
Check out the photos of each below, and click here for more photos and discussion.
Srixon “Z785” irons
Srixon “Z585” irons
Click here for more photos and discussion.
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- Kevin Tway what’s in the bag accurate as of the Wells Fargo Championship. More photos from the event here.
Driver: Ping G430 LST (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X
3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 80 TX
5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 90 TX
Irons: Wilson Staff Utility (2), Titleist T100 (4-9)
Shafts: Mitsubishi MMT 100 TX (2), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (4-9)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (48-10F @47, 52-12F @51, 56-14F), SM7 (60-10S)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (48-56), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 (60)
Putter: Scotty Cameron T-5 Proto
Grip: Scotty Cameron Black Baby T
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus4
More photos of Kevin Tway’s WITB in the forums.
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Editor’s note: This is an excerpt from a piece our Andrew Tursky originally wrote for PGATour.com’s Equipment Report. Head over there for the full article.
The timing of Lowry’s putter changeup was curious: Was he just using a Spider putter because he was paired with McIlroy, who’s been using a Spider Tour X head throughout 2024? Was Lowry just being festive because it’s the Zurich Classic, and he wanted to match his teammate? Did McIlroy let Lowry try his putter, and he liked it so much he actually switched into it?
Well, as it turns out, McIlroy’s only influence was inspiring Lowry to make more putts.
When asked if McIlroy had an influence on the putter switch, Lowry had this to say: “No, it’s actually a different putter than what he uses. Maybe there was more pressure there because I needed to hole some more putts if we wanted to win,” he said with a laugh.
To Lowry’s point, McIlroy plays the Tour X model, whereas Lowry switched into the Tour Z model, which has a sleeker shape in comparison, and the two sole weights of the club are more towards the face.
Lowry’s Spider Tour Z has a white True Path Alignment channel on the crown of his putter, which is reminiscent of Lowry’s former 2-ball designs, thus helping to provide a comfort factor despite the departure from his norm. Instead of a double-bend hosel, which Lowry used in his 2-ball putters, his new Spider Tour Z is designed with a short slant neck.
“I’ve been struggling on the greens, and I just needed something with a fresh look,” Lowry told GolfWRX.com on Wednesday at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship. “It has a different neck on it, as well, so it moves a bit differently, but it’s similar. It has a white line on the back of it [like my 2-ball], and it’s a mallet style. So it’s not too drastic of a change.
“I just picked it up on the putting green and I liked the look of it, so I was like, ‘Let’s give it a go.’”
Read the rest of the piece over at PGATour.com.
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Equipment
Webb Simpson equipment Q&A: Titleist’s new 2-wood, 680 blade irons, and switching to a broomstick Jailbird
With seven career wins on the PGA Tour, including a U.S. Open victory, Webb Simpson is a certified veteran on the course. But he’s also a certified veteran in the equipment world, too. He’s a gearhead who truly knows his stuff, and he’s even worked closely with Titleist on making his own custom 682.WS irons.
On Wednesday at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship, I caught up with Simpson to hear about his experience with Titleist’s new prototype 2-wood, how Titleist’s 680 Forged irons from 2003 ended up back in his bag, and why he’s switching into an Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Cruiser broomstick putter this week for the first time.
Click here to read our full story about Simpson’s putter switch on PGATOUR.com’s Equipment Report, or continue reading below for my full Q&A with Simpson at Quail Hollow Club on Wednesday.
See Webb Simpson’s full WITB from the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship here
GolfWRX: It seems like you’ve been a little all over the place with your irons in the past six months or so, and now going back to the 680’s. Is that just a comfort thing? What’s been going on with the irons?
Webb Simpson: Titleist has been so great at working with me, and R&D, on trying to get an iron that kind of modernizes the 680. And so the 682.WS took the T100 grooves, but kinda took the look and the bulk and the build of the 680’s into one club. They’re beautiful, and awesome looking. I just never hit them that well for a consistent period of time. It was probably me, but then I went to T100’s and loved them. I loved the spin, the trajectory, the yardage, but again, I never went on good runs. Going through the ground, I couldn’t feel the club as well as with the blade. So last week, I’m like, ‘Alright. I’m gonna go back more for…comfort, and see if I can get on a nice little run of ball striking.’
So that’s why I went back.
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OK, that makes sense. I know you had done some 2-wood testing recently. Is that in the bag right now?
It’s like day-by-day. I used it at Hilton Head every day. Valero, I used it one round. And this week, me and my caddie will do the book every morning, and if it’s a day where we think we need it, we’ll just put it in and take the 3-wood out. I love it because it’s a super simple swap. Like, it doesn’t really change much.
Yeah, can you tell me about that club? I mean, we don’t really know anything about it yet. You know? I haven’t hit it or anything, obviously.
It has grooves like a 3-wood. Spin is perfect. And it’s honestly, like, everything is in the middle of a 3-wood and driver number. Trajectory, spin, carry, all of it. So, a Hilton Head golf course is almost too easy to talk about because, you know, there, so many holes are driver 3-wood.
Valero, our thinking was we had two par-5’s into the wind, and we knew that it would take two great shots to get there in two. So instead of hitting driver-driver, we just put it in. And I used it on those holes.
Hilton was a little easier because it was off-the-tee kind of questions. But Colonial will be a golf course where, you know, there’s a lot of driver or 3-woods. It’s kind of like a backup putter or driver for me now. I’ll bring it to every tournament.
So it’s, like, in your locker right now, probably?
Well, it would be. It’s in my house [because Webb lives near by Quail Hollow Club, and is a member at the course.] It’s in the garage.
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Do you know what holes you might use it out here if it goes in play?
Potentially 15, depending on the wind. Second shot on 10. Could be 14 off the tee. The chances here are pretty low (that he’ll use the 2-wood). But, like, Greensboro would be an awesome club all day. I’m trying to think of any other golf courses.
There’s plenty that it’ll be a nice weapon to have.
It’s interesting, the wave of 2-woods and mini drivers. Like, it’s just really taken off on Tour, and all the companies have seemed to embrace it.
Yeah. The thing I had to learn, it took me, like, at least a week to learn about it is you gotta tee it up lower than you think. I kept teeing it up too high. You need it low, like barely higher than a 3-wood. And that was where I got optimal spin and carry. If you tee it up too high, you just don’t get as much spin and lose distance, I don’t know if that’s just a mini driver thing.
And you obviously have a Jailbird putter this week. What spurred that on?
Inconsistent putting. I’m stubborn in a lot of ways when it comes to my equipment, but I have to be open minded – I just hadn’t putted consistently well in a while. And I’m like, ‘Man, I feel my ball-striking coming along. Like I feel better; for real, better.’
If I can just get something in my hands that I’m consistent with. Being on Tour, you see it every year, guys get on little runs. I can put together four to five tournaments where I’m all the sudden back in the majors, or in the FedExCup Playoffs. You can turn things around quick out here. I’m like, ‘Man, whatever’s going to get me there, great.’
My caddie, David Cook, caddied for Akshay at the Houston Open and he putted beautifully. Then, I watched Akshay on TV at Valero, and he putted beautifully. And, I’m like, ‘I’m just going to try it.’
I’ve never tried it for more than a putt or two, and I just ordered what Akshay uses. It was pretty awkward at first, but the more I used it, the more I’m like, ‘Man, it’s pretty easy.’ And a buddy of mine who’s a rep out here, John Tyler Griffin, he helped me with some setup stuff. And he said at Hilton Head, he wasn’t putting well, then tried it, and now he makes everything. He was very confident. So I’m like, ‘Alright, I’ll try it.’”
And you’re going with it this week?
Hundred percent.
Alright, I love it. Thank you, I always love talking gear with you. Play well this week.
Thanks, man.
See Webb Simpson’s full WITB from the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship here
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John
Jul 20, 2018 at 4:47 pm
How about a lefty gap wedge this time?
ray
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 am
Best looking 7 series yet. Hated the look of the last ones so much I got rid of them. Couldn’t get past the gray stripe and the muscle toward the toe look of the 765. This one has the muscle more centered looking and no dumb stripe YES!!!
KT89
Jul 19, 2018 at 11:43 pm
ogo do you have anything positive to add to anything being said? Some great openings for some solid discussion here and you managed to trash or belittle everyone you’ve responded to. Are you playing on TV but we just don’t know it? No? Bring it down a few notches and humble yourself a bit.
Shinton
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:46 am
Oh don’t worry about Ogo, he’s just trying to flex his finger muscles on here(prolly can’t get it done on the course). He is obviously much superior than any one else willing to give an opinion. We should all kneel in honor and submit to his excellence!
BD
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:33 am
Ogo is just a troll. Whatever he says has no merit.
ogo
Jul 19, 2018 at 2:38 pm
Are these Srixon Z’s fully hot forged like Mizunos…. or are they just cheap castings that are stamped or cold coin forged that only minutely changes the surface grain structure? Biiiig difference!!! 😮
Hintongolf
Jul 19, 2018 at 4:50 pm
I play the Z965s 3-pw and can tell you they feel every bit as good as the Mizuno irons, nothing cheap about Srixon irons.
ogo
Jul 19, 2018 at 11:13 pm
Your ‘feeeel’ is irrelevant to the issue of the clubhead construction. In all likelihood your ‘feeeel’ is faulty or non-existent and thus worthless opinion. Keep your subjective feeeel to yourself.
Harambe
Jul 19, 2018 at 11:31 pm
they are endo forged. these feel softer than mizuno. 1020 carbon steel vs 1025. endo and miura are the best foundries in the game
Funkaholic
Jul 20, 2018 at 12:08 pm
That is an arrogant and uninformed comment. Those of us who know what “feel” means in a quality forged iron, value the subtle differences in feel. Materials, forging process and design all come together to create an experience for the player.
bonifacj
Jul 19, 2018 at 1:00 pm
I still bag the z745s. Best looking, feeling and performing irons I have ever used. Not sure how Srixon could top them.
2putttom
Jul 19, 2018 at 1:02 pm
spot on
Jim McPherson
Jul 19, 2018 at 11:10 am
I like what Srixon has done with the more player irons in the 7 & 9 series. No cheap looking plastic bling badges! Keep up the good work. Keep the back of the club clean and only the steel. Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!
#noironbadges
rondon
Jul 19, 2018 at 12:38 pm
These thick-faced cavity back irons may appeal to pros and good ams, but the huge majority of rec’n golfers will be playing hollow irons within 5 years. Hollow is hotter off the face and higher trajectories. It’s over for solid irons.
Funkaholic
Jul 20, 2018 at 12:17 pm
You obviously don’t know what you are talking about.
Chilly Dipper
Jul 19, 2018 at 7:18 am
LMK when you spot a left handed 985…
Brad
Jul 19, 2018 at 6:42 am
I much prefer the cleaner look of the z765 and the z745 irons before them. Not really a fan of the stepped cavity look on the z785 or the bling bling badging in the cavity of the new z585’s.
I’ve had my eye on a set of z765’s for while and I might just have to go buy a set before they are replaced with these…their uglier cousins.
Tom
Jul 19, 2018 at 12:55 am
There hasn’t been anything new in irons since the Ping Eye II…..blades or perimeter weighted….manufacturers just keep changing the back cavities cosmetically….gotta introduce a new model every year…Re-grip your old irons, you will probably hit them just as well as any of these “new” models.
Dave
Jul 19, 2018 at 9:35 am
except for tungsten weighting in heel and toe, sole changes especially in these to help turf interaction, power holes in wilsons make toe shots exactly like pured shots, slots in taylormade improve forgiveness on thin shots, some cast irons feel exactly like forged, oh and many sets have improved distance dramatically. pxg,taylormade, ping have polymer filled cavitys which produce great distance for those that need it, other than that they are all just metal.
rondon
Jul 19, 2018 at 12:34 pm
Don’t forget the hollow irons like PXG and P790s that are proving superior to traditional cavity back clubs. It’s the thin face on the hollow irons that make them better than thick face cavity backs. Pros can play the blades but the rec’n golfer market is hollow irons.
Rob Pfeil
Jul 19, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Except that Ping says the iBlades have a higher MOI than the Ping Eye 2’s. So those old irons aren’t as good as you think.
ogo
Jul 19, 2018 at 11:21 pm
A higher MOI means more inertia built into the clubhead… and that makes them harder to supinate through impact. Unless you desperately need more MOI in the head to compensate for your horrid off-center hits? The iBlades are admission of incompetence.
Herbert
Jul 20, 2018 at 6:48 pm
So True.
rondon
Jul 19, 2018 at 12:29 am
Are these irons hollow? If they aren’t hollow they are an obsolete design.
carl
Jul 19, 2018 at 10:00 am
man, not sure what these companies are doing still creating all these obsolete designs. And whats with all those pga tour players that have obsolete designed blades in the bag
rondon
Jul 19, 2018 at 12:30 pm
With the hollow iron designs like PXG and P790s all the old designs will fade away because only pros can play true blades. The club companies will force the pros to play the hollow clubs if they want to get paid. It’s all about selling clubs to rec golfers.
Hintongolf
Jul 19, 2018 at 10:09 am
hahahahaha this is too funny, “if they aren’t hollow they are an obsolete design.” The Z785 aren’t designed for the golfer with an ego who plays from the wrong tees and in turn needs clubs to hit the ball further and straighter for them. These are designed with the lower handicap golfer in mind, those who are looking for better ball control and shot shape with a little help on slight mishits.
rondon
Jul 19, 2018 at 12:27 pm
OK…. if that’s the case then Srixon can expect to sell a thousand sets only because good amateurs and rec golfers will be playing PXG and P790s…. hollow clubs.
Funkaholic
Jul 20, 2018 at 12:15 pm
What is your obsession with hollow irons? Are you one of those PXG fanboys (the most overpriced, overrated clubs on the market)? I will always prefer a forged cavity or muscle back blade over any hollow iron.
Travis
Jul 19, 2018 at 12:05 am
I like what I see so far!
ogo
Jul 19, 2018 at 2:40 pm
I see, therefore I want ….?!!