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SPOTTED: Srixon “Z785” and “Z585” irons

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6 years ago

Jul 18, 2018

Photos have recently popped up in our GolfWRX Forums of Srixon “Z785” and “Z585” irons. It’s been nearly two years since the company released it’s previous Z565, Z765 and Z965 irons, so it’s possible (if not likely), based on nomenclature, these could be the replacements for that series.

The photos in our forums show Z785 short irons (5-PW) and Z785 long irons (4 and 3), but it does not appear that the Z785 irons shown in the photos are driving irons, so it’s likely these photos come from a mixed set.

We do not have any official tech or release information about new irons from Srixon at this time, so we’re left to speculate for the time being. What do you think about the photos of these Srixon “Z785” and “Z585” irons?

Check out the photos of each below, and click here for more photos and discussion.

Srixon “Z785” irons

Srixon “Z585” irons

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31 Comments

John

Jul 20, 2018 at 4:47 pm

How about a lefty gap wedge this time?

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ray

Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 am

Best looking 7 series yet. Hated the look of the last ones so much I got rid of them. Couldn’t get past the gray stripe and the muscle toward the toe look of the 765. This one has the muscle more centered looking and no dumb stripe YES!!!

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KT89

Jul 19, 2018 at 11:43 pm

ogo do you have anything positive to add to anything being said? Some great openings for some solid discussion here and you managed to trash or belittle everyone you’ve responded to. Are you playing on TV but we just don’t know it? No? Bring it down a few notches and humble yourself a bit.

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- Shinton
  
  Jul 20, 2018 at 9:46 am
  
  Oh don’t worry about Ogo, he’s just trying to flex his finger muscles on here(prolly can’t get it done on the course). He is obviously much superior than any one else willing to give an opinion. We should all kneel in honor and submit to his excellence!
  
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- BD
  
  Jul 20, 2018 at 10:33 am
  
  Ogo is just a troll. Whatever he says has no merit.
  
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ogo

Jul 19, 2018 at 2:38 pm

Are these Srixon Z’s fully hot forged like Mizunos…. or are they just cheap castings that are stamped or cold coin forged that only minutely changes the surface grain structure? Biiiig difference!!! 😮

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- Hintongolf
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 4:50 pm
  
  I play the Z965s 3-pw and can tell you they feel every bit as good as the Mizuno irons, nothing cheap about Srixon irons.
  
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  - ogo
    
    Jul 19, 2018 at 11:13 pm
    
    Your ‘feeeel’ is irrelevant to the issue of the clubhead construction. In all likelihood your ‘feeeel’ is faulty or non-existent and thus worthless opinion. Keep your subjective feeeel to yourself.
    
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    - Harambe
      
      Jul 19, 2018 at 11:31 pm
      
      they are endo forged. these feel softer than mizuno. 1020 carbon steel vs 1025. endo and miura are the best foundries in the game
      
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    - Funkaholic
      
      Jul 20, 2018 at 12:08 pm
      
      That is an arrogant and uninformed comment. Those of us who know what “feel” means in a quality forged iron, value the subtle differences in feel. Materials, forging process and design all come together to create an experience for the player.
      
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bonifacj

Jul 19, 2018 at 1:00 pm

I still bag the z745s. Best looking, feeling and performing irons I have ever used. Not sure how Srixon could top them.

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- 2putttom
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 1:02 pm
  
  spot on
  
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Jim McPherson

Jul 19, 2018 at 11:10 am

I like what Srixon has done with the more player irons in the 7 & 9 series. No cheap looking plastic bling badges! Keep up the good work. Keep the back of the club clean and only the steel. Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!

#noironbadges

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- rondon
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 12:38 pm
  
  These thick-faced cavity back irons may appeal to pros and good ams, but the huge majority of rec’n golfers will be playing hollow irons within 5 years. Hollow is hotter off the face and higher trajectories. It’s over for solid irons.
  
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  - Funkaholic
    
    Jul 20, 2018 at 12:17 pm
    
    You obviously don’t know what you are talking about.
    
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Chilly Dipper

Jul 19, 2018 at 7:18 am

LMK when you spot a left handed 985…

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Brad

Jul 19, 2018 at 6:42 am

I much prefer the cleaner look of the z765 and the z745 irons before them. Not really a fan of the stepped cavity look on the z785 or the bling bling badging in the cavity of the new z585’s.

I’ve had my eye on a set of z765’s for while and I might just have to go buy a set before they are replaced with these…their uglier cousins.

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Tom

Jul 19, 2018 at 12:55 am

There hasn’t been anything new in irons since the Ping Eye II…..blades or perimeter weighted….manufacturers just keep changing the back cavities cosmetically….gotta introduce a new model every year…Re-grip your old irons, you will probably hit them just as well as any of these “new” models.

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- Dave
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 9:35 am
  
  except for tungsten weighting in heel and toe, sole changes especially in these to help turf interaction, power holes in wilsons make toe shots exactly like pured shots, slots in taylormade improve forgiveness on thin shots, some cast irons feel exactly like forged, oh and many sets have improved distance dramatically. pxg,taylormade, ping have polymer filled cavitys which produce great distance for those that need it, other than that they are all just metal.
  
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  - rondon
    
    Jul 19, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    
    Don’t forget the hollow irons like PXG and P790s that are proving superior to traditional cavity back clubs. It’s the thin face on the hollow irons that make them better than thick face cavity backs. Pros can play the blades but the rec’n golfer market is hollow irons.
    
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- Rob Pfeil
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 3:03 pm
  
  Except that Ping says the iBlades have a higher MOI than the Ping Eye 2’s. So those old irons aren’t as good as you think.
  
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  - ogo
    
    Jul 19, 2018 at 11:21 pm
    
    A higher MOI means more inertia built into the clubhead… and that makes them harder to supinate through impact. Unless you desperately need more MOI in the head to compensate for your horrid off-center hits? The iBlades are admission of incompetence.
    
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- Herbert
  
  Jul 20, 2018 at 6:48 pm
  
  So True.
  
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rondon

Jul 19, 2018 at 12:29 am

Are these irons hollow? If they aren’t hollow they are an obsolete design.

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- carl
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 10:00 am
  
  man, not sure what these companies are doing still creating all these obsolete designs. And whats with all those pga tour players that have obsolete designed blades in the bag
  
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  - rondon
    
    Jul 19, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    
    With the hollow iron designs like PXG and P790s all the old designs will fade away because only pros can play true blades. The club companies will force the pros to play the hollow clubs if they want to get paid. It’s all about selling clubs to rec golfers.
    
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- Hintongolf
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 10:09 am
  
  hahahahaha this is too funny, “if they aren’t hollow they are an obsolete design.” The Z785 aren’t designed for the golfer with an ego who plays from the wrong tees and in turn needs clubs to hit the ball further and straighter for them. These are designed with the lower handicap golfer in mind, those who are looking for better ball control and shot shape with a little help on slight mishits.
  
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  - rondon
    
    Jul 19, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    
    OK…. if that’s the case then Srixon can expect to sell a thousand sets only because good amateurs and rec golfers will be playing PXG and P790s…. hollow clubs.
    
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- Funkaholic
  
  Jul 20, 2018 at 12:15 pm
  
  What is your obsession with hollow irons? Are you one of those PXG fanboys (the most overpriced, overrated clubs on the market)? I will always prefer a forged cavity or muscle back blade over any hollow iron.
  
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Travis

Jul 19, 2018 at 12:05 am

I like what I see so far!

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- ogo
  
  Jul 19, 2018 at 2:40 pm
  
  I see, therefore I want ….?!!
  
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