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The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine.

So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.

In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz.

Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary. 

Charles Howell III with new PXG “Mustang” putter at 2015 Barclays

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As Andrew Tursky wrote in his “11 Revealing Photos from The Barclays:” Charles Howell III “seems to have a new gamer putter every week, and he’s usually tinkering with at least two other putters … This week he’s testing a few PXG putters, and last time he teed it up at the PGA Championship he was gaming a Scotty Cameron prototype. As gear heads we should all have sympathy for him; he’s truly one of us.”

We got some great shots of the Georgia native’s new weaponry. And like all things Parsons, this Mustang is a unique-looking putter.

Related: the 18-page Parsons Xtreme thread

Funeral arrangements for Tiger’s golf life

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User shoeman started the thread with this post, motivated by Tiger Woods’ triple-bogey seven and fall from contention during the final round of the Wyndham Championship.

“It’s time to put a end to all hopes & dreams for TW! One of the weakest field ever & the results were zero wins for TW 2015! Tigers’ golf life ended on August 23, 2015, on the 11th hole! The cause of death reported by the coroner–asphyxiation!!  It’s time to move on from Tigers passing! Once you accept his golf life death, the better off you will be!”

Another user offered this counter, however: “Did you stop watching after 11? Tiger had 4 birdies coming in. I think he is alive and well. He made some mistakes, but he made some progress, also.”

There have been 85 replies to the topic in just three days and the debate is…spirited. If you (like seemingly all golf fans) have strong opinions about the Big Cat, you might want to weigh in.

U.S. Amateur is painful

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Bryson DeChambeu’s, shall we say, “deliberate” play en route to winning last week’s U.S. Amateur raised some eyebrows. The SMU student wasn’t exactly playing speed golf.

User dpatti wrote:

“I’m watching the Amateur and this guy Dechambeau could be the slowest player I’ve ever seen. Don’t get me wrong he’s a great player and I’m sure a good guy but he’s got to be miserable to play with.”

Did you watch the Amateur? Think DeChambeau should be renamed DeChamb-slow? Think the problem extends beyond Bryson to college golf or amateur golf in general?

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Can somebody give me the simple or scientific reason why…

You’ll find many of the members in our “Instruction & Academy” forum know a bit more about the golf swing than the talking heads on television.

Check out this thread in which Mizunogolfer asks why a driver swing is longer than a six-iron for most golfer and iteachgolf takes on the task of replying (you may want to brush up on your principles of physics first).

Mizunogolfer: A driver swing is longer than a 6 iron swing for most people

Definitely the case for me, on a full hard drive and a full hard six iron my backswing is longer with the driver

iteachgolf: Driver creates the highest club head speed in the backswing as well as downswing. Therefore faster moving club head creates more inertia making it harder to change direction. This resistance to changing direction leads to the swing to be longer. Also factor in human reaction time staying constant while club is moving faster will also make it take longer to stop and then change direction

mizunostaffer: Why is this?

“I’m going to need a better explanation of why you think a driver has more inertia than a 6 iron. The formula for inertia is

F=mass * acceleration

For a rotating body it’s

F=mr*r (mass * R squared)”

The mass of a driver is actually LESS than the mass of a 6 iron.  Yes, the driver is longer, but the head is lighter (hence the whole “swing weight” calculation).

iteachgolf: So to keep it simple the radius is squared. Therefore the significant change in radius would have a larger effect than the lesser change in weight.  6 iron weight 50-70 grams more than a driver (lots of variables). So the R^2 of a 6 iron vs driver is more than a 50% increase (1,406.25 vs 2,116).  The difference in weight between a 6 iron and a driver is roughly 20-30%.  So the change in radius has a much larger impact even though it has less weight.

Well that got scientific (or mathematic) real quick!

Golfer Look-a-likes

Finally, a recent post has resurrect the famous golfer look-a-like thread.

Some of the latest highlights include.

A young Miguel Angel Jimenez and Borat.

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And Michael Bolton and Bernhard Langer.

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Many, many more lookalikes in the thread, including the personal favorite below from 2011.

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  1. DaveT

    Aug 31, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    “Well that got scientific (or mathematic) real quick!” And your point is??? Hey, it’s a technical question and REQUIRES a technical answer.

    I don’t agree with iteachgolf; mizunostaffer is closer, but still not spot-on. Here’s the problem. Let’s start by accepting iteachgolf’s assertion that the problem is changing the direction of the club at the top of the backswing. (I don’t think it’s correct, but let’s see where it leads.) The change of direction is of a club moving backward to moving forward, but not much rotation involved, no faster than the rotation of the arms and body. Therefore, most of the radius involved is the arm/shoulder stretch, which for the same golfer should be the same for both clubs. Relatively little radius difference is the club length at this point in the swing.

    So it’s mostly a mass difference. And the mass ratio is 33%, bigger than the 20-30% that iteachgolf asserts. Here are my calculations — head plus shaft plus grip:
    6-iron: 263+100+50 = 413g (shaft between 80g graphite and 120g steel)
    driver: 200+60+50 = 310g (graphite driver shaft)
    ratio = 413/310 = 1.33, or 33%

    If we assume that we want the moment of inertia, not just the mass of the club, let’s see where that leads us. We will need a radius. Let’s assume an arm length of 24″, we compute a 6-iron balance point at 28.9″ and a driver balance point at 34.0″. Assuming a 90* wrist cock at the top of the backswing, the radius r is 37.5 for the 6-iron and 41.6 for the driver. That gives an r-squared ratio of 1.23 or 23%.

    My conclusion: if the explanation were the difficulty in changing the club’s direction at the top of the swing, the 6-iron swing would be longer. But the driver swing has been observed to be longer. Conclusion: difficulty of changing the direction of the club is not a viable explanation.

    Yeah, this should probably be posted in the thread, not this summary article, but I’m lazy.

  2. Steve Thomas

    Aug 29, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    Many years ago, I use to attend the Danny Thomas St. Jude Classic, now the Fedex St. Jude. When Gil Morgan was a regular on the PGA tour, he would come over and play in Memphis. I probably went for 10 straight years, and every year, more than one person would always come up to me and ask me if I was Gil Morgan’s brother. It was mostly tour players who would approach me and ask me if I was Gil Morgan’s brother. I would tell them no and then ask them for their autograph!

  3. Craig

    Aug 28, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    I learnt that f=m*v*v/r . Does that mean are error above?

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Best Ping irons from the last 5 years – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing Ping irons. WRXer ‘LowAndLeft32’ wants to hear what our members believe are the best additions from the brand over the past five years, with the i210 irons proving a popular choice.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • PEI_Golfer: “Hard pressed to beat the i210s.”
  • realmfg: “Blueprints.”
  • eric61: “Love the i210s — they’re easily the answer here, in my opinion. I really liked the i59s, too, but not as much as the i210s, and I think their price point maybe has meant a lot of people didn’t even end up trying them. G-series irons are fine too. If you’re in that segment of the market, the last few years it’s been the latest G irons vs the latest Hot Metals for the top of the pecking order, in my opinion.”
  • Cwhite912: “Easy, I210, Blueprint, iBlade.”

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In our forums, our members have been discussing easy to launch fairway woods. WRXer ‘Pete52’ hits his woods too low, and our members have been sharing their best picks to solve his problem in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • JKJKJK: “I had the easiest time to elevate from the deck with G425 Max 3Wood/5Wood with Motore F3 shaft. Flies really high and easy to hit.”
  • DoughBack18: “Sim2 Ti. Has a lot of weight on the sole, and you can really launch it high. I’ve always had a slightly lower trajectory, got this in a 5 wood, and it’s worked really nicely filling the gap I had at the top end of my bag.”
  • Valtiel: “Any of the modern Pings are a good litmus test for elevation. If you can’t get those off the ground then you know the problem ain’t the club.”

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Your favorite wedge distance? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing optimum wedge layup distance.

WRXer ‘KevinMDowney’ kicks off the thread asking: “if you’re going to lay up on a par 5, what distance are you looking to lay up to?” and says he prefers “full SW to Gap Wedge – 90 to 110 range.”

And our members have been sharing their ideal wedge distance in our forums.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Sean124: “I guess my favorite would be 100 yards, which is a full smooth 60* for me.”
  • jc2: “100-105 is a full sand wedge which is perfect for me. Anything more than that, I’m trying to take some off a gap wedge which I don’t control as well.”
  • dsmil: “The closer the better for me. I’ve practiced the 40-70 yard shots quite a bit, so they don’t make me uncomfortable. I like using my 58 and zipping it in there low with spin.”

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