WRX Forum Buzzz
From the forums: What’s buzzing on GolfWRX this week
The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine.
So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.
In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz.
Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.
Charles Howell III with new PXG “Mustang” putter at 2015 Barclays
As Andrew Tursky wrote in his “11 Revealing Photos from The Barclays:” Charles Howell III “seems to have a new gamer putter every week, and he’s usually tinkering with at least two other putters … This week he’s testing a few PXG putters, and last time he teed it up at the PGA Championship he was gaming a Scotty Cameron prototype. As gear heads we should all have sympathy for him; he’s truly one of us.”
We got some great shots of the Georgia native’s new weaponry. And like all things Parsons, this Mustang is a unique-looking putter.
Related: the 18-page Parsons Xtreme thread
Funeral arrangements for Tiger’s golf life
User shoeman started the thread with this post, motivated by Tiger Woods’ triple-bogey seven and fall from contention during the final round of the Wyndham Championship.
“It’s time to put a end to all hopes & dreams for TW! One of the weakest field ever & the results were zero wins for TW 2015! Tigers’ golf life ended on August 23, 2015, on the 11th hole! The cause of death reported by the coroner–asphyxiation!! It’s time to move on from Tigers passing! Once you accept his golf life death, the better off you will be!”
Another user offered this counter, however: “Did you stop watching after 11? Tiger had 4 birdies coming in. I think he is alive and well. He made some mistakes, but he made some progress, also.”
There have been 85 replies to the topic in just three days and the debate is…spirited. If you (like seemingly all golf fans) have strong opinions about the Big Cat, you might want to weigh in.
U.S. Amateur is painful
Bryson DeChambeu’s, shall we say, “deliberate” play en route to winning last week’s U.S. Amateur raised some eyebrows. The SMU student wasn’t exactly playing speed golf.
“I’m watching the Amateur and this guy Dechambeau could be the slowest player I’ve ever seen. Don’t get me wrong he’s a great player and I’m sure a good guy but he’s got to be miserable to play with.”
Did you watch the Amateur? Think DeChambeau should be renamed DeChamb-slow? Think the problem extends beyond Bryson to college golf or amateur golf in general?
Can somebody give me the simple or scientific reason why…
You’ll find many of the members in our “Instruction & Academy” forum know a bit more about the golf swing than the talking heads on television.
Check out this thread in which Mizunogolfer asks why a driver swing is longer than a six-iron for most golfer and iteachgolf takes on the task of replying (you may want to brush up on your principles of physics first).
Mizunogolfer: A driver swing is longer than a 6 iron swing for most people
Definitely the case for me, on a full hard drive and a full hard six iron my backswing is longer with the driver
iteachgolf: Driver creates the highest club head speed in the backswing as well as downswing. Therefore faster moving club head creates more inertia making it harder to change direction. This resistance to changing direction leads to the swing to be longer. Also factor in human reaction time staying constant while club is moving faster will also make it take longer to stop and then change direction
mizunostaffer: Why is this?
“I’m going to need a better explanation of why you think a driver has more inertia than a 6 iron. The formula for inertia is
F=mass * acceleration
For a rotating body it’s
F=mr*r (mass * R squared)”
The mass of a driver is actually LESS than the mass of a 6 iron. Yes, the driver is longer, but the head is lighter (hence the whole “swing weight” calculation).
iteachgolf: So to keep it simple the radius is squared. Therefore the significant change in radius would have a larger effect than the lesser change in weight. 6 iron weight 50-70 grams more than a driver (lots of variables). So the R^2 of a 6 iron vs driver is more than a 50% increase (1,406.25 vs 2,116). The difference in weight between a 6 iron and a driver is roughly 20-30%. So the change in radius has a much larger impact even though it has less weight.
Well that got scientific (or mathematic) real quick!
Golfer Look-a-likes
Finally, a recent post has resurrect the famous golfer look-a-like thread.
Some of the latest highlights include.
A young Miguel Angel Jimenez and Borat.
And Michael Bolton and Bernhard Langer.
Many, many more lookalikes in the thread, including the personal favorite below from 2011.
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Equipment
Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (3/27/24): Miura TC-201 irons
At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.
It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.
Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a set of Miura TC-201 irons
From the seller: (@Vinny Nguyen): “Miura TC 201 5-PW w/ Modus 105X Black shafts. Half inch short of standard, 2 flat, standard loft. $825.“
To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Miura TC-201 irons
This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules
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Equipment
From the Forums: How are you liking TaylorMade’s Qi10 fairway woods?
In our forums, our members have been discussing TaylorMade’s new Qi10 fairway woods. WRXer ‘ace036’ plans on testing them in the next few weeks, saying: “from how they look from address and frame the ball is much more appealing to my eye versus my current Paradym fairway woods.” And our members have been sharing their positive feedback in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Edwardsr: “I got fit into the Qi10 core model with Ventus TR Black 8X and it’s absolutely amazing for me.During the fitting with my 12-15 swings with it, it was the most efficient combo I’ve ever tested, tons of 1.48 smash and 3 or 4 1.49 smash (which I don’t think I’ve ever gotten on 3 wood on a launch monitor).”
- MiloMalt: “No complaints and so far only high praise for my Qi10 Tour 3 and 5 wood. I’m getting great numbers and a nice penetrating ball flight with great height whereas with my old TSi2 4 wood it was spinny and ballooning and short because of that.”
- courcy75: “The Qi10 Tour 3 wood I just put in play has been outstanding for me. Finally found something I like as much as the 07 burner tp.”
Entire Thread: “From the Forums: How are you liking TaylorMade’s Qi10 fairway woods?”
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Equipment
From the Forums: Should I play a 3-wood or 5-wood?
In our forums, our members have been discussing 3-woods, 5-woods and bag setups. WRXer ‘Cole Fleming’ is currently unsure of his setup, and reached out to fellow members, saying:
“Thoughts on people playing 3 vs 5-wood? I have a high SS 118 with driver 280s + carry. I really never use my 3-wood now as my course doesn’t really have the need unless I move to the back tees. I usually carry it about 260+. I’m ultimately looking for something easier to hit and maybe start trying to use it off the tee some to keep me out of trouble.
I also play a 7-wood. Love it so don’t want them to be to0 close. Ive never even considered or looked at a 5-wood. I have a fitting today so I’m sure I could test them, but wanted somewhat of an idea going into it to tell the fitter so I’m not swinging so many clubs.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts on the matter, as well as mentioning what has worked best for their game.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- pu_golf88: “I’m dropping the 3 wood this year for a 5 wood. I hit my drivers a similar distance as you and find that my 3 wood isn’t a fairway finder, I really only use it if there’s a dogleg where a driver would go thru where I want to land the ball. I think a 5 wood goes far enough to use it as a fairway finder off the tee when I want more distance than hitting my 3 driving iron.”
- T626G: “I myself have decided to try a 5-wood. Never really had much luck or need with a 3-wood. Should be easier to hit. I’m going to cut it down a 1/2″ just to help control it and swing easier.”
- jedc: “Adjustable 5-wood turned down to 4-wood loft (and open looking face is nice). I had a fitting last month and really liked the PXG Black Ops 5-wood.”
Entire Thread: “From the Forums: Should I play a 3-wood or 5-wood?”
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DaveT
Aug 31, 2015 at 10:51 pm
“Well that got scientific (or mathematic) real quick!” And your point is??? Hey, it’s a technical question and REQUIRES a technical answer.
I don’t agree with iteachgolf; mizunostaffer is closer, but still not spot-on. Here’s the problem. Let’s start by accepting iteachgolf’s assertion that the problem is changing the direction of the club at the top of the backswing. (I don’t think it’s correct, but let’s see where it leads.) The change of direction is of a club moving backward to moving forward, but not much rotation involved, no faster than the rotation of the arms and body. Therefore, most of the radius involved is the arm/shoulder stretch, which for the same golfer should be the same for both clubs. Relatively little radius difference is the club length at this point in the swing.
So it’s mostly a mass difference. And the mass ratio is 33%, bigger than the 20-30% that iteachgolf asserts. Here are my calculations — head plus shaft plus grip:
6-iron: 263+100+50 = 413g (shaft between 80g graphite and 120g steel)
driver: 200+60+50 = 310g (graphite driver shaft)
ratio = 413/310 = 1.33, or 33%
If we assume that we want the moment of inertia, not just the mass of the club, let’s see where that leads us. We will need a radius. Let’s assume an arm length of 24″, we compute a 6-iron balance point at 28.9″ and a driver balance point at 34.0″. Assuming a 90* wrist cock at the top of the backswing, the radius r is 37.5 for the 6-iron and 41.6 for the driver. That gives an r-squared ratio of 1.23 or 23%.
My conclusion: if the explanation were the difficulty in changing the club’s direction at the top of the swing, the 6-iron swing would be longer. But the driver swing has been observed to be longer. Conclusion: difficulty of changing the direction of the club is not a viable explanation.
Yeah, this should probably be posted in the thread, not this summary article, but I’m lazy.
Steve Thomas
Aug 29, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Many years ago, I use to attend the Danny Thomas St. Jude Classic, now the Fedex St. Jude. When Gil Morgan was a regular on the PGA tour, he would come over and play in Memphis. I probably went for 10 straight years, and every year, more than one person would always come up to me and ask me if I was Gil Morgan’s brother. It was mostly tour players who would approach me and ask me if I was Gil Morgan’s brother. I would tell them no and then ask them for their autograph!
Craig
Aug 28, 2015 at 4:35 pm
I learnt that f=m*v*v/r . Does that mean are error above?