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The Zurich Classic of New Orleans is one of the most laid-back PGA Tour events of the season, but as I watched Jerry Kelly hit drivers on the range I could tell things were already getting serious. And it was only Monday.

Next to me on the range was Pat McCoy, who was fitting Kelly for a new TaylorMade driver. Kelly’s “gamer” driver was a 2016 TaylorMade M2, an 8.5-degree version that was only made available to PGA Tour players. For weeks, Kelly had been anticipating the release of the 2017 M2 driver. He wanted to see if it could help him add a few yards to his drives, and earlier in the day the first batch of 8.5-degree 2017 M2 drivers were made available for PGA Tour players to test. Along with the new driver head, Kelly also wanted to test one of the hottest new driver shafts on the PGA Tour. For that he reached out to McCoy, the Director of Tour Operations for Fujikura.

McCoy estimated he had fit Kelly for new golf equipment roughly 35 times in his 17 years with Fujikura. “It’s not hard to know when I’ve failed and when I’ve been successful,” he said. Standing next to McCoy, however, it felt as if the success of this particular fitting was out of his control. McCoy wasn’t fazed, though.

Fujikura Tour Rep Marshall Thompson prepares an Atmos Tour Spec Blue for Kelly to test.

Fujikura Tour Rep Marshall Thompson building Kelly’s new driver in TaylorMade’s Tour Truck.

The fitting started with Kelly comparing his gamer to the new driver. The new driver was built to exactly match Kelly’s gamer on TaylorMade’s Tour Truck, a mobile golf club fitting facility that travels with the PGA Tour each week. Both driver heads were digitally measured and had lofts of exactly 8.5 degrees. Their lengths were precisely 45.75 inches and they had matching lie angles of 61 degrees. They also had the same D2 swing weight, a measurement of the balance point of a driver. Aside from the updated design of the club head, the only difference was the shafts. Kelly’s gamer had an Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 60TX. The new driver had Fujikura’s new Atmos Tour Spec Black 6X.

McCoy called Kelly, who turned 50 in November, “old school” in the way he tests his equipment. He began his test by hitting about 10 shots with each driver, switching back and forth every few shots. Even without a launch monitor, Kelly could tell that the new driver head and shaft were creating a lower-launching, lower-spinning trajectory than his gamer. He liked what what he saw, but he wanted to see the data on a launch monitor.

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Jerry Kelly (right) looks at launch monitor data with Pat McCoy (gray shirt) and Marshall Thompson (left).

A $35,000 golf ball-tracking device called Trackman was brought to Kelly’s spot on the range. It uses Doppler radar to tell golfers exactly what their ball golf ball is doing from the time it leaves the clubface to the time it hits the ground. In doing so, it offers dozens of readings, but the one McCoy was focused on was “land angle,” or the angle at which the ball hits the ground. With Kelly’s gamer, his drives were hitting the ground at about 40 degrees, which is too steep by PGA Tour standards. With the new driver head and the Atmos Tour Spec Black shaft, Kelly’s land angle was reduced to 34 degrees, which was giving him more roll. It seemed liked a slam-dunk, but Kelly still wasn’t sold. He was concerned with his “ball speed,” the measure of how fast a golf ball leaves a driver head. It was 1-2 mph lower with the new driver head and the new driver shaft. That was costing him carry distance, but McCoy had a fix.

“What I try not to do is fit my swing into the club. “I fit the club into my swing.” — Jerry Kelly

Along with the Atmos Tour Spec Black, McCoy also had an Atmos Tour Spec Blue shaft prepared for Kelly to test. It was built to Kelly’s specifications should such a situation arise. The Atmos Tour Spec Blue is almost identical to the Atmos Tour Spec Black with one important difference: the mid and tip sections of the shaft are more flexible, which creates a mid-launching, mid-spinning trajectory. The theory was that the more flexible design of the Atmos Tour Spec Blue would create more “kick” to help Kelly improve his ball speed. That turned out to be true, but it was now a game of whack-a-mole. Like Kelly’s gamer shaft, the Atmos Tour Spec Blue increased Kelly’s land angle. Looking a little frustrated, Kelly started rotating between the three shafts — Atmos Tour Spec Black, Atmos Tour Spec Blue and his Aldila — as well as the old and new driver heads.

“This is where you just let them go,” McCoy told me.

Jerry Kelly adjusting his driver on the range at the Zurich Classic.

Jerry Kelly adjusting his driver on the range at the Zurich Classic.

TaylorMade drivers have 12 different hosel settings, which adjust the loft, lie and face angle of a driver in combination. Kelly was hitting all three shafts in just about every one of the combinations. In the midst of the rapid fire, McCoy turned the fitting over to Marshall Thompson, a fellow PGA Tour Shaft Rep for Fujikura. McCoy walked to the far end of the range to talk to Daniel Summerhays, who uses Fujikura shafts in his metal woods.

Every week, McCoy receives an email from PGA Tour Statistician Rich Hunt. It includes a spreadsheet with launch monitor data of all the players on the PGA Tour. The data is pulled from ShotLink and plots weekly launch monitor stats, as well as averages for the season. McCoy keeps a close eye on every PGA Tour player’s data, making him a walking encyclopedia of which golfers are driving it well on the PGA Tour and which golfers aren’t. Reviewing the data each week, McCoy noticed that Summerhays’ launch conditions were creeping toward the high side of optimal due to changes Summerhays was making in his swing. There were a few ways to approach the problem, but the easiest was for Summerhays to reduce the loft of his driver by 0.5 degrees, which lowered both his launch angle and his spin rate. After chatting with Summerhays about it, McCoy was confident that he would go that direction.

McCoy’s start in the golf industry came as an instructor. At age 20, he became an Assistant PGA Professional at PGA West in La Quinta, California, making him the youngest teacher at the time to hold the position at the famed course. He said he was quickly frustrated teaching golf because his students rarely practiced in between their lessons. That made it almost impossible for him to improve their games. He found that in most cases he could help his students improve more quickly and more permanently by changing their equipment, which made it possible for them to have more fun playing golf. “Isn’t that what it’s all about?” he said. Ultimately, that’s what led him to the golf equipment world.

McCoy’s distinction as a PGA Professional is well known on the PGA Tour, and one of the reasons he’s so popular with Tour players. Another reason is his approach, which focuses on building long-term relationships with players that aren’t tied to their interest in Fujikura shafts. PGA Tour player William McGirt has used Fujikura shafts in his metal woods for years, and he said the main reason why is his trust in McCoy. “He’s not going to put something in my hands if it’s not going to work,” McGirt said. “It’s going to be perfect. And if it’s not perfect, it’s going to be damn near close.”

There are two drawers of Fujikura shafts on TaylorMade's Tour Truck.

There are two drawers of Fujikura shafts on TaylorMade’s Tour Truck.

Unlike the major golf equipment manufacturers on the PGA Tour, shaft makers like Fujikura don’t pay golfers to use their products. For that reason, McCoy takes a different approach to get his products in the hands of the world’s best. He maintains relationships with all the major equipment manufacturers, making sure they’re stocked with the Fujikura shafts they need. And he’s always sure to keep them fully informed of the work he’s doing with the PGA Tour players they pay to use their clubs. Not doing so could not only compromise his relationship with an equipment manufacturer, but it could also create a scenario where a PGA Tour player is getting conflicting information about what’s best for him. According to McGirt, that can wreak havoc on a Tour player’s game.

On the PGA Tour, a big-name player’s usage of a golf club or shaft can result in millions of dollars in sales for a golf equipment manufacturer. It can be the difference between a company like TaylorMade putting a Fujikura shaft in its latest driver release or choosing the shaft of one of its competitors. While Fujikura has maintained a healthy amount of business with both major golf equipment manufacturers and after-market custom club fitters for more than a decade, some shaft companies are less stable. McGirt described a situation he said he’s observed frequently on the PGA Tour, where in an effort to get a new shaft in play, a shaft rep pushed a player into a product that wasn’t right for his game.

“You can work yourself into some bad habits trying to make [a shaft] work,” McGirt said. “Honestly, I could probably get [a shaft] that performed a little better than what I’m using now, but then I’d have to get used to it. Coming down under the gun, knowing what a [shaft] is going to do is the biggest then for me.”

Wade Liles, a PGA Tour Truck Technician for TaylorMade, echoed McGirts sentiments. “We want our players to play better, not just switch to get a new shaft in play.” In Liles’ 17 years on the PGA Tour, he said he’s seen an incredible shift in the clubs and shafts PGA Tour players use. Most of the shafts made 17 years ago would be “worthless” on the PGA Tour due to advances in technology, he said. “Shaft manufacturers aren’t going to come out with the same shaft year after year,” he said. “It’s going to be a new shaft and it’s going to be a better shaft.”

McCoy estimated that it takes at least 50 different driver shaft models to optimize the performance of the roughly 300 golfers who play on the PGA Tour each season. For that reason, PGA Tour equipment trucks are stocked with dozens of shafts from multiple shaft manufacturers. They all vary slightly in materials and constructions, as well as in weights, flex and kick point. Kevin Napier, a Senior Tour Technician for Callaway, said that in some cases getting a player to change to a new shaft has nothing to do with performance at all. It can come down to a shaft manufacturer’s willingness to make a shaft in a custom paint color.

“[PGA Tour Players] remember the people who are honest with them. And when they’re struggling, they usually come back to me to see if I can help.” — Pat McCoy

In an effort to meet the needs of PGA Tour players and amateur golfers across the globe, Fujikura had released an abundance of shaft models in recent years. There was consistent feedback from PGA Tour players, golf equipment manufacturers and custom-club fitters, however, that having so many models was complicating the fitting process. Fujikura stopped getting that feedback this year, and there has also been a significant uptick in the amount of Fujikura shafts used on the PGA Tour. At the Zurich Classic, for example, Fujikura led all shaft manufacturers with 41 driver shafts in play (25.6 percent), and McCoy attributes the growth directly to Atmos Tour Spec.

Seung Yul Noh (upper left), Steve Stricker (upper right), Si Woo Kim (lower left) and Jerry Kelly (lower right) eith Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec shafts at the Zurich Classic.

Seung Yul Noh (upper left), Steve Stricker (upper right), Si Woo Kim (lower left) and Jerry Kelly (lower right) with Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec shafts at the Zurich Classic.

Atmos Tour Spec is divided into three models (Black, Blue and Red). Each of them are available in a wide range of weights and flexes. The Atmos Tour Spec Black offers the lowest trajectory, the Atmos Tour Spec Red offers the highest trajectory, and the Atmos Tour Spec Blue fills the middle ground. All three are inspired by successful shaft designs that Fujikura has been perfecting for the better part of two decades, which McCoy said is the real reason for their success. Like other leading shaft makers, Fujikura is using the latest technologies and materials to create Atmos Tour Spec shafts, but “it’s not really about the materials,” he said. “It’s about learning what works and what doesn’t, and then why,” he said. “We’ve always made high-quality product, but it’s learning from it.”

McCoy said that unlike in years past, he’s able to explain the benefits of the Atmos shafts to PGA Tour players with ease. He doesn’t have to tell them about the new carbon fiber materials that the shafts use. He doesn’t have to explain the years of study that went into improving the way the shafts load and unload for different swings. Tour players immediately understand the black-blue-red story. Just as importantly, they trust that McCoy wouldn’t ask them to test a product that he didn’t think could help their game.

McCoy said he’s been approached by dozens of PGA Tour players who have never used a Fujikura shaft before, but now want to try one. In many cases, Atmos gave them better results. In other cases, McCoy would find that a PGA Tour player’s current shaft was perfect for them. He said he never hesitates to tell them so. “They remember the people who are honest with them,” McCoy said. “And when they’re struggling, they usually come back to me to see if I can help.”

There were 15 PGA Tour players hitting golf balls on the range at the Zurich Classic on Monday afternoon. Five of them were hitting drivers, and all five of them were swinging Fujikura shafts. One was Jerry Kelly, who was wrapping up his test of the Atmos Tour Spec Black and Atmos Tour Spec Blue for the day. Fujikura rep Marshall Thompson had showed him that he could get better results from the 2017 TaylorMade M2 driver head and the Atmos Tour Spec Blue shaft if he was willing to lower the loft to 7.5 degrees. Doing that, he got both the ball speed and the trajectory he wanted, but Kelly said would need to do some more testing at home. By this time, McCoy had returned to the fitting. “What I try not to do is fit my swing into the club,” Kelly told Thompson. “I fit the club into my swing.”

“Did you hear that,” McCoy said to me. “That’s the truth there.”

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  1. Adam

    May 29, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    There are other JDM shafts that haven’t crossed the Pacific yet: Basilieus, Crazy, Design Tuning, and more. Maybe a shaft from one of these would suit Kelly better. Unfortunately for him, they don’t have reps dropping stuff into tour van stockpiles. Old Jerry needs to take out the pacifier out and go do some legwork. PGA players are a bunch of spoiled brats who don’t know squat about their own tools.

  2. mikey t

    May 12, 2017 at 11:59 am

    idiots !!!!!

  3. Kd

    May 12, 2017 at 9:21 am

    Fuji Pat is a stud. Been around the game a long time time and is a straight shooter. Nice work.

  4. SH

    May 11, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    Wait – you told Jerry Kelly to go to 7.5? Whatever happened to LOFT UP! ? So now it’s back to put weight in the back of the head and loft down – again. Nothing to do with the right shaft. The new shaft didn’t give him the numbers, so he just went ahead and started clicking the head around until he found the right flight numbers – at 7.5 loft. Duh. You just debunked your own advertorial.

    • Chris

      May 15, 2017 at 1:26 am

      Who is “you”? This article wasn’t written by TM, do the Fuji rep in this piece have a reputation for being a fanatical loft up advocate?

  5. Cdub

    May 11, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    Great article!! Thank you Zak.

    • Zak Kozuchowski

      May 12, 2017 at 8:04 am

      Thank you, Cdub! I’m glad you enjoyed it.

  6. Tour Wives

    May 11, 2017 at 5:59 pm

    Year after year
    DJ has the hottest shaft on the pga tour

  7. Golf Scientist

    May 11, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    It’s all in the shaft, boyz….. and the clubhead is just an inertial mass that is detrimental to the golfswing. The golfswing takes about a second of time while the impact event is only 0.5 milliseconds or so …..!!!
    There are 1000 milliseconds in 1 second… so that orgasmic impact event is only 0.05% of the golfswing… soooo impact = 0.05%…. and swing = 99.05%.
    So now tell me the clubhead is extra significant in the golfswing, and the shaft is just something you stick into the clubhead to get it to the ball.
    —————–
    Clubhead aerodynamics, weight distribution, size, material, cosmetics, are somewhat insignificant in the entire golfswing… but wait!!!…. it’s the clubhead that hitshitshits the golfball…. therefore ….. I love my clubheads soooo muuuuch because they are soooo purtty ….!!!!

    • Kevin

      May 11, 2017 at 5:26 pm

      Not even close

      • Kenn

        May 12, 2017 at 12:03 pm

        Agreed…. the impact of the clubhead is not even close to the duration of the golfswing ….!

    • Ron

      May 12, 2017 at 12:31 pm

      Fine….I’ll be the guy to point out your math doesn’t equal 100%…

  8. DB

    May 11, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    Interesting article. But I still think the #1 factor in being the hot shaft on the PGA Tour is marketing.

    Looking at the distance stats over the years, it seems players aren’t gaining distance or accuracy with newer shafts. Maybe they find one they like better, or it feels better, looks cooler, etc. And that’s all well and good, I’m fine with that, but let’s be realistic about it.

    • Paul

      May 11, 2017 at 7:39 pm

      if a shaft doesn’t have the right bend profile for me i hit it all over the face. I am not the only person like that. all quick transition people need a specific shaft type. slower swingers can hit anything that feels good or works.

      • Don

        May 12, 2017 at 10:48 am

        Right track, with a correction. I’m both slower swinging and suffer a quick transition. I need a high launch but stiff shaft to keep the ball in a reasonable dispersion pattern. I consider the shaft to be 50-75% of the value of a fitting. Just swap the heads to get to the correct loft for the shaft. I’d prefer to state it that casual players can hit anything that feels good or works. Just don’t lump all slow swingers into that group.

  9. Mitch Young

    May 11, 2017 at 1:02 pm

    my take away from this article is that even in the hands of the best players in the world, a shaft can’t fill all the gaps, its like the rock paper scissor paradigm. There isn’t shaft out that can optimize your spin, launch and ball speed, one of those aforementioned attributes will have to give. great article.

    • Zak Kozuchowski

      May 11, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      Thanks for the comment, Mitch, and I appreciate your feedback. What I hoped to get across what how hard it was to make a successful product on the PGA Tour, and all the elements that are a part of it. A good product or a good story or good relationships aren’t enough. It takes everything.

  10. Scott

    May 11, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    Yes, I thought it was a bit of an advertorial also, but it was very interesting. Now I have to find out if my current club has the right “land angle”. Geeze

  11. Dell Man

    May 11, 2017 at 11:49 am

    I don’t understand the comments about it being an “advertorial”. It’s a feature story on Fujikura Shafts and the fitting process for Tour Players. That’s what publications do, feature stories. This is just a well reported and interesting story about a guy who is in the mix of fitting players every week who happens to work for Fujikura. It could have been any shaft company, it just happens to be that the writer had a relationship, or built one, with this guy who works at said company. Great story, well done.

    • Bert

      May 12, 2017 at 8:42 am

      Then title the article that way! It’s marketing pure and simple.

  12. carl spackler

    May 11, 2017 at 10:37 am

    Fujikura’s product line wasnt confusing b/c it had to many products, it was confusing b/c they named everything speeder. Come up with some new names and new ways to describe what profile the shaft is.

  13. Cris

    May 11, 2017 at 8:40 am

    How much to run an advertorial here these days? I’ve seen many of them lately.

    • SirBigSpur

      May 11, 2017 at 10:08 am

      Took the words right out of my mouth. Pretty much confirmed that this “article” was an ad when I looked at Rory’s WITB article and saw a “buy now” link under only the Fujikura shaft in his bag (and the full graphical Fujikura logo). Sad.

  14. TCJ

    May 11, 2017 at 7:59 am

    I think the title should read: What It Takes To Be The Hottest Shaft On The Champions PGA Tour

  15. AH

    May 11, 2017 at 7:58 am

    Aldila still #1

  16. Ian

    May 11, 2017 at 7:13 am

    Tl;dr – don’t worry if you swing like a rusty gate, just buy a new driver (with a fujikura shaft obviously). Ask for the Atmos Tour Spec Red.

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Driver: TaylorMade SIM (10.5 @ 10 degrees, D4 swing weight)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X (tipped 1 inch, 45.75 inches)

Fairway wood: TaylorMade SIM Max (15 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila RIP Alpha 90 X

Hybrid: TaylorMade SIM Max Rescue (22 @ 19 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Black 105 X

Irons: TaylorMade P790 (3), TaylorMade P730 DJ Proto (4-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (soft stepped)

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 (52-09, 60-10 @ 62 degrees)
Shafts: KBS Tour Custom Black 120 S

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour Mini
Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Pistol GT 1.0

Ball: TaylorMade TP5

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet 58R (1 wrap 2-way tape + 2 wraps left hand, 3 right hand)

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As has been well documented, Adam Scott recently won the Genesis Invitational with a set of Titleist 680 blade irons, a design that was originally released in 2003. One of the great benefits of being one of the best players in the world is you don’t need to search eBay to find your preferred set of 17-year-old irons. Titleist has been stocking sets for Mr. Scott—even to the point of doing a limited production run in 2018 where they then released 400 sets for sale to the general public.

A lot of time has passed since 2003, and considering the classic nature of Scott’s Titleist 680, I figured now was a good time to look back at some other iconic clubs released around the same time.

Ping G2 driver

This was Ping’s first 460cc driver with a full shift into titanium head design. The previous Si3 models still utilized the TPU adjustable hosel, and this was considered a big step forward for the Phoenix-based OEM. The driver was a big hit both on tour and at retail—as was the rest of the G2 line that included irons.

TaylorMade RAC LT (first gen) irons

The RAC LTs helped position TaylorMade back among the leaders in the better players iron category. The entire RAC (Relative Amplitude Coefficient) line was built around creating great feeling products that also provided the right amount of forgiveness for the target player. It also included an over-sized iron too. The RAC LT went on to have a second-generation version, but the original LTs are worthy of “classic” status.

TaylorMade R580 XD driver

Honestly, how could we not mention the TaylorMade R580 XD driver? TM took some of the most popular drivers in golf, the R500 series and added extra distance (XD). OK, that might be an oversimplification of what the XD series offered, but with improved shape, increased ball speed outside of the sweet spot, and lower spin, it’s no wonder you can still find these drivers in the bags of golfers at courses and driving ranges everywhere.

Titleist 680MB irons

The great thing about blades is that beyond changing sole designs and shifting the center of gravity, the basic design for a one-piece forged head hasn’t changed that much. For Adam Scott, the 680s are the perfect blend of compact shape, higher CG, and sole profile.

Titleist 983K, E drivers

If you were a “Titleist player,” you had one of these drivers! As one of the last companies to move into the 460cc category, the 983s offered a classic pear shape in a smaller profile. It was so good and so popular, it was considered the benchmark for Titleist drivers for close to the next decade.

Cleveland Launcher 330 driver

It wasn’t that long ago that OEMs were just trying to push driver head size over 300cc, and Cleveland’s first big entry into the category was the Launcher Titanium 330 driver. It didn’t live a long life, but the Launcher 330 was the grandaddy to the Launcher 400, 460, and eventually, the Launcher COMP, which is another club on this list that many golfers will still have fond memories about.

Mizuno MP 33 irons

Although released in the fall of 2002, the Mizuno MP 33 still makes the list because of its staying power. Much like the Titleist 680, this curved muscle blade was a favorite to many tour players, including future world No. 1 Luke Donald. The MP 33 stayed in Mizuno’s lineup for more than four years and was still available for custom orders years after that. Unfortunately, if you are looking for a set now you are going to have to go the used route.

Callaway X-16 irons

The Steelhead X-16 was a big hit at retail for Callaway. It offered greater forgiveness than the previous X-14’s but had a more compact shape with a wider topline to inspire confidence. They featured Callaway’s “Notch” weighting system that moved more mass to the perimeter of the head for higher MOI and improved feel. There was a reduced offset pro series version of the iron, but the X-16 was the one more players gravitated towards. This is another game improvement club for that era that can still be found in a lot of golf bags.

Ben Hogan CFT irons

The Hogan CFTs were at the forefront of multi-material iron technology in 2003. CFT stood for Compression Forged Titanium and allowed engineers to push more mass to the perimeter of the head to boost MOI by using a thin titanium face insert. They had what would be considered stronger lofts at the time sounded really powerful thanks to the thin face insert. If you are looking for a value set of used irons, this is still a great place to start.

King Cobra SZ driver

In 2003, Rickie Fowler was only 15 years old and Cobra was still living under the Acushnet umbrella as Titleist’s game improvement little brother. The Cobra SZ (Sweet Zone, NOT 2020 Speed Zone) was offered in a couple of head sizes to appeal to different players. The thing I will always remember about the original King Cobra SZ is that it came in an offset version to help golfers who generally slice the ball—a design trait that we still see around today.

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Today from the Forums: “The importance of wedge fitting”

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Today from the Forums we delve into a subject dedicated to wedge fitting. Liquid_A_45 wants to know if wedge fitting is as essential for golfers as iron fitting, and our members weigh into the discussion saying why they feel it is just as imperative.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Z1ggy16: “Super important if you’re a serious golfer. Even better if you can get fit outdoors on real grass and even go into a bunker.”
  • ThunderBuzzworth: “The biggest part of wedge fitting is yardage gapping and sole grinds. If you have a grind that doesn’t interact with the turf in your favor, it can be nightmarish around the greens. When hitting them try a variety of short game shots with different face angles etc. with the different grinds to see which one works best for what you need.”
  • Hawkeye77: “Wedge fitting I had was extremely beneficial when I got my SM6s a few years ago. Mostly for working with the different grinds and how they interacted with my swing and on different shots and having an eye on my swing to help with the process and evaluate the results. My ideas of what grinds were right for me based on researching on Titleist, etc. just were not correct in 2/3 of the wedges I ended up with as far as the grinds were concerned. Good to have an experienced fitter available to answer questions, control variables, etc.”
  • cgasucks: “The better you get at this game, the more important wedges are.”

Entire Thread: “The importance of wedge fitting”

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