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Ping G30 Drivers, Fairway Woods, Hybrids and Irons

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G30 Drivers

No matter where a golf equipment manufacturer places the center of gravity in its latest driver, one thing is true; modern driver heads aren’t very aerodynamic objects. Ping’s new G30 driver doesn’t change that, but the company’s engineers found a way to improve its aerodynamics without compromising the framework that has made Ping’s line of G-Series drivers some of the best performers in the industry.

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The improved aerodynamics come in the way of turbulators, which are six ridges on the front of the G30’s crown that reduce drag forces. According to Ping, the turbulators helped Bubba Watson increase his driver club head speed 2 mph, which lead to 7 to 10 yards of extra driving distance.

Click here to see photos of Bubba Watson’s pink G30 driver.

“What turbulators do is give you a little bit of turbulence that makes the air stick to the surface,” said Marty Jertson, Ping’s director of product development. “Air sticking to the surface is a good thing … The air already sticks to the surface of the sole of a driver pretty well, so we don’t need turbulators there.”

Click here to read our full review of the Ping G30 driver.

Golfers who swing faster create more drag forces, so they’ll gain more club head speed from the turbulators than average golfers, who can expect gains of about 0.7 mph according to an internal Ping study. All things being equal, that equates to about 2-to-3 yards of more distance than Ping’s G25 driver. All things aren’t equal between the G25 and the G30, however, which is why golfers might be able to hit the company’s new driver a little more than 2 or 3 yards farther than the G25.

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The G30 uses a new T9S titanium face, which is thinner, stronger and lighter than the company’s previous driver faces. The new material saves 4 grams of weight from the driver’s construction, which was redistributed low and rearward in the driver head to boost the G30’s moment of inertia (MOI), a measure of a club’s retention of ball speed on off-center hits. Its MOI is even higher than that of the G25, which was already the highest MOI driver on the market. The lower, more rearward center of gravity (CG) also makes the G30 about 150 rpm lower spinning than the G25 driver, according to Ping.

Moving the weight lower and more rearward has another advantage, Jertson said. The position of the weight helps the driver head swing more upward heading into impact, something that’s known as “increasing dynamic loft.” That helps golfers launch the G30 driver higher, creating more of the high-launch, low-spin conditions that can lead to more distance.

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The G30 will also be available in Ping’s SF Tec model, which stands for “Straight Flight Technology.” The G30 SF Tec drivers are nearly identical to the standard models except that their face angles sit more closed at address and they have CG’s that are shifted slightly toward the heel. That helps golfers who tend to fade or slice the ball to more easily square the clubface at impact. The SF Tec driver heads are also 3 grams lighter (203 grams instead of 206 grams). Those combined changes can increase driving distance as much as 12 yards, the company claims.

The G30 drivers are available in lofts of 9, 10.5 and 12 degrees, and have a new adjustable hosel that’s the same weight and diameter as Ping’s fixed hosels. The drivers can be adjusted as much as 1-degree up or down from the driver’s printed loft and allows golfers to adjust loft incrementally as well: 0.6-degrees higher or lower from the printed loft. The stock swing weight is D3.

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Since Ping’s new adjustable hosel screw is slightly larger, shafts fit with the company’s G25 adjustable hosel sleeves will not fit in G30 drivers or fairway woods.

The G30 SF Tec drivers are available in lofts of 10 and 12 degrees. They have the same adjustable hosel as the G30 and have stock swing weight of D1.

The G30 and G30 SF Tec drivers come stock with the company’s new TFC 419D shafts, which are counterbalanced and have a stock length of 45.75 inches. They’re available in the following flexes: Soft R (53 grams), Regular (55 grams), Stiff (59 grams) and X-Stiff (63 grams).

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Both the G30 and G30 SF Tec drivers carry an MSRP of $385 and are currently available for pre-order. They’ll hit stores along with the G30 fairway woods, hybrids and irons in late July.

New Ping Tour shafts

Golfers who prefer shafts that are a little shorter, heavier, stiffer and have less torque can also opt for the company’s new “Tour” shafts, which have a slightly lower balance point that creates the same D3 swing weight while being 0.5 inches shorter (45.25 inches). They also launch a little lower than the TFC 419D shafts.

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The Tour shafts are not exclusive to the G30 launch, which means they’re available for all current Ping metal woods in Tour 65 and Tour 80 models, as well as a Tour 90 shaft that’s designed for hybrids.

G30 Fairway Woods

Like Ping’s G30 drivers, the G30 fairway woods have turbulators on their crown to help boost clubhead speeds through improved aerodynamics. That will lead to some distance gains, but won’t have nearly the impact on their performance as their new carpenter 475 steel faces, which are 44 percent stronger than the 17-4 steel faces used on the G25 fairway woods.

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According to Jertson, the thinner, stronger faces will give the G30 fairway woods approximately 1.5-to-2 mph more ball speed than the G25 models, which along with other changes make the G30’s much more of a distance threat than their predecessors.

At address, golfers might notice that Ping made the heel height of the G30 fairway woods a bit taller, creating a little more surface area that causes the face to flex more at impact.

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The new faces and improved manufacturing techniques also freed up more discretionary weight for Ping to move the CG of the G30 3 wood (14.5 degrees, 167 cubic centimeters) lower and more rearward like the G30 driver to raise its launch, lower its spin and increase forgiveness. The higher-lofted G30 5 wood (18 degrees, 151cc) and 7 wood (21 degrees, 145cc) have CG’s that are moved slightly forward to help lower their spin, which creates a more penetrating trajectory that’s less likely to “balloon.”

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For the first time in a G-Series fairway wood, Ping has also made the G30’s adjustable. They use the same adjustable hosel as the G30 driver, giving them a 2-degree range of adjustability.

The G30 fairway woods come stock with Ping’s TFC 419F shaft in Soft R (63 grams), R (64 grams), S (68 grams) and X (69 grams) flexes and carry an MSRP of $275. Stock swing weight is D1.

G30 Hybrids

The G30 hybrids use a new heat-treated 17-4 stainless steel face that improves strength by 19 percent, boosting the CT of the hybrids by 20 points. That will give them a little more ball speed than the G25 hybrids, and with their similar trajectory that means they’ll likely carry a few yards farther for most golfers.

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There’s no turbulators due to their smaller, more aerodynamic size, but the shape of the hybrids was tweaked to include a flatter top rail and a higher heel section that gives them a more square appearance at address.

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The G30 hybrids are available in lofts of 17, 19, 22, 26 and 30 degrees and use progressive CG locations that are low and rearward in the 17- and 19-degree hybrids for maximum forgiveness and peak height, and more forward in the 22-, 26- and 30-degree hybrids to create a flatter trajectory.

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They come stock with Ping’s TFC 419H shaft in Soft R, R, S and X flexes and carry an MSRP of $242.50. Stock swing weight is D1.

Click here to see what GolfWRX members are saying about the G30 hybrids in our forum.

G30 Irons

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Ping’s G30 irons have thinner faces than the company’s uber-forgiving G25 irons, but their design doesn’t follow the industry trend of making thinner, unsupported faces to create more ball speed and more distance.

“The faces are not unsupported,” Jertson said. “We want to be able to control the [flexing of our iron faces] to give our irons more consistency.”

With Ping irons, there’s almost always an effort to reposition as much weight around the perimeter of the iron as possible to create more forgiveness and the G30 irons are no exception. But first things first, Ping engineers wanted the G30 irons to fly a little farther, which isn’t an easy thing to do when the iron faces can’t be made to flex more. The company achieved its goal by giving the irons slightly longer shafts to help golfers create more clubhead speed and a higher launch angle. The longer shafts, along with the slightly stronger lofts, also provide better gapping throughout the set.

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The G30 irons (left) are larger and have wider soles than Ping’s i25 irons.

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Sound like a simple fix? It is until you consider this: when you make a club longer and don’t want to increase its swing weight, you have to remove weight from the club head. And since Ping engineers didn’t want to make the G30 irons less forgiving than the G25’s, they had to do more with less and needed to execute several different design plans to accomplish their goals.

They started with slightly longer blade lengths, which are most noticeable in the 4-iron through 7-iron clubs. That gave the engineers a larger canvas that made it easier to redistribute weight around the perimeter of the irons. The G30’s were also designed with a deeper undercut that lowers their CG to boost the their MOI, which helps iron shots that are hit off-center fly closer to the distance of shots hit in the center of the face. The soles of the G30 irons are wider as well, which moved the CG of the irons a little lower and deeper to further boost MOI. The soles have their extra width positioned on the club’s trailing edge, where it is not really a factor in turf interaction.

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A Ping G30 iron 5 iron (right) and i25 5 iron at address.

Add up those changes and the G30’s not only fly higher than the G25 irons, but the 4 iron is about 7 yards longer, according to Ping estimates, and the 7 iron is about 3 yards longer. The MOI of the irons is also 2 percent greater from heel-to-toe and 1 percent from top-to-bottom despite the lighter head weights.

Visually, the G30 irons have less offset than the G25 irons, a change that is most noticeable from the 6 iron down. There’s also a softer elastomer badging that helps improve the feel of the irons.

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A G30 4 iron at address. 

The G30 irons are available in 4-PW, UW, SW and LW and have the same lofts and shaft lengths as the company’s Karsten irons. The 4 iron’s stock loft is 21 degrees, the 6 iron is 27 degrees and the PW is 45 degrees. They carry an MSRP of $110 per club with the company’s stock CFS Distance steel shafts (Soft R, R, S, X flexes) and $125 per club TFC 419i graphite shafts (Soft R, R and S flexes).

Ping G30 iron specs

Click here to see what GolfWRX members are saying about Ping’s G30 irons in our forum.

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  1. long&left

    May 8, 2015 at 12:50 am

    always hated the look of the g30 woods with the fins – what a gimmick i thought….then i demoed the 3 wood today for a whole round…..whoaaaa give me that ugle stick anytime…
    this thing is the dogs bol…..s…ridiculous long with great penetrating flight – even mishits are long especially near the bottom.
    as easy hitting from the deck as the tee. little hard to shape though as its just wants to go straight…..hated it but now that i tried her, i have to have her….
    cant wait to try the driver now…irons? nah cant cheat on my mizzy’s

  2. MASSIVE MIKE!

    Apr 10, 2015 at 11:37 am

    I ordered a set with cushions. After 6 months I found that they never put in the cushions.
    I ordered a wedge with a cushion. It came with no cushion and the wrong lie.
    I sent the clubs back to get the cushion put in and all the cushion labels peeled off in 5 days.
    I sent the clubs back for repair and they sent them back with the wrong grips

    I WILL NEVER TRUST PING AGAIN AFTER 30+ YEARS—– WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER!

  3. THE SWEET THONG

    Mar 21, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    I have these with KBS TOUR V STIFF. This is the best iron I have ever hit. 2.5 Handicap w/ 30 years of playing. Wish they made a long iron like a 2 or 3 though.

  4. Jeff

    Mar 11, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    I just got a G30 fairway wood. 14.5 3 wood and it’s hot and long. I like the turbulators. My auto correct does not. I like to look at them at address. There’s only 4 on the 3 wood crown and it kinda shows you, big hook, small hook, little slice, big slice.

  5. Stuart

    Aug 15, 2014 at 9:41 am

    I have always disliked ping until today hit the 3 wood wow wee seriously long like 20 metres fly to my sldr

  6. Tony

    Aug 4, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Took the Tour shafted 80 XS 3 wood out for the first time Saturday.
    Short par 5 495 yards, I hit 2 3 woods, fairway and on the green for easy bird.
    Heavier shaft, shorter length has made the 3 wood a go to club once again!

  7. Tyler Wainright

    Jul 19, 2014 at 9:02 am

    I just had my first Trackman fitting after not playing for 7+ years and the G30s, for me anyway, were spot on. I hit the 7 iron only. I haven’t kept up with all the gear changes over the years but the G30s with stock shafts felt amazing compared to my current set. Nice high ball flight and good carry too.

  8. Martin

    Jul 6, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    I would like to see pics of the irons next to the G25 rather than the I25.

    Makes them look chunkier than they probably are.

    • Joe Golfer

      Jul 13, 2014 at 1:50 am

      Couldn’t agree with you more, Martin.
      Let’s compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges.

  9. Rich

    Jul 4, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    I like the set up of the irons. It covers roughly a normal 3-PW loft range with 7 clubs instead of 8. That’s a bonus if you ask me. Now I can carry an extra long club or wedge with only a minor change in gapping between clubs. Bring it on!

  10. TL

    Jul 3, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Surprising that length of 5 iron measures 38.25″, which is 0.5″ longer than Ping i20.

  11. Rocky

    Jul 3, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Turbulators? Lol….

    If TM came up with that name and those fins, this post would be rabid by now…

    Congrats to Ping for having the stones to come out with something *very* un-ping like.

    • Hung Le

      Jul 7, 2014 at 8:56 pm

      Just got an i25 driver to replace my titleist D2 913, love the Ping unique way it has. Totally agree to the “un-ping” thing, wonder if they have just hired some former TM designers? 😀

  12. froneputt

    Jul 3, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    G30 Driver looks great as well as the graphics and color — looking forward to a demo.

    The turbulators might be a bit much on the fairway…

  13. RAT

    Jul 3, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Typical Ping , change the colors and badge now it’s new and better than ever…. yep

    • Mikec

      Jul 3, 2014 at 8:25 pm

      Typical of “every” OEM for the most part. At least ping does not release a new iron every year or even 6 months like some!

      • WILSON

        Jul 7, 2014 at 1:19 pm

        … ping does release a new iron every year. G25>i25>s55>G30

  14. TB

    Jul 3, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    As far as driver, fairway, and hybrids go the g25 and i25 compete against each other. They seem to be very similar as far as numbers go (for me at least). Hope the G30 woods and hybrid off something different.

    Basically I feel like a good player is just as likely to play a g25 wood as they would an i25.

  15. James

    Jul 3, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    The little white ring or whatever would bother me. I would use a black magic marker to turn it black.

  16. Prut

    Jul 3, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    The G30s look a lot like the G2s.

    • Tarheel

      Jul 4, 2014 at 9:24 am

      I thought so too. I had G 2’s and liked the look

  17. Duncan Castles

    Jul 3, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Hmmm. Longer shafts and stronger lofts in the G30 irons should mean harder to hit. The longer irons in particular.

    • harrold

      Jul 3, 2014 at 1:46 pm

      No it just means that the 5 iron in that set has a 6 stamped on the bottom of it as they are all a club stronger

      • Duncan Castles

        Jul 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm

        And is a 5 iron harder to hit than a 6 iron, a 3 iron harder than a 4 iron? Yes. So these clubs should be harder to hit…

        • Ben

          Jul 4, 2014 at 1:04 pm

          Yeah, I don’t really like the sound of that at all. Harder to control is never a good thing and gaining a couple yards isn’t enough to justify that.

    • wcavanau

      Jul 3, 2014 at 3:23 pm

      Kind of surprised Ping did this. Seem to be following the lead of TM in this regard. They are just about a club stronger that the G25.

      • Keith

        Jul 5, 2014 at 9:16 am

        It is a progressive length change. Only in long / mid irons and enough to balance control and a distance gain. That’s also why they played with the lofts, if you look closely at the specs the lofts change to balance out the effective carry gain with added progressive length. They don’t just make all clubs 1 degree stronger and 1/2″ longer like other companies have done. PING doesn’t release anything without significantly improving on a previous model. It may look the similar but with blue graphics, but it performs better, straighter and more consistently.

  18. Rob

    Jul 3, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Had the G25 irons come out a week earlier, maybe they could have been included in the “player’s irons” reviews.

  19. Shooter McGavin

    Jul 3, 2014 at 9:41 am

    Wow, I think the new blue color scheme makes the clubs look cheesy and cheap. I like the simple look of the G25 series.

  20. KJ

    Jul 3, 2014 at 8:23 am

    The hybrids are not adjustable.

    • Keith

      Jul 5, 2014 at 9:19 am

      Hybrids are long iron replacements. Why would you want an adjustable long iron? Adjustability has some benefits, but it also adds unwanted weight / drag, subsequently decreasing forgiveness and clubhead speed. Get fit properly and there is no need for 15 loft/face angle adjustments!

      • MHendon

        Jul 5, 2014 at 10:58 pm

        Why would you want anything adjustable. Just give me a nice square set up with the right shaft and loft and I’m good to go.

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WRX Spotted: New TaylorMade P790 UDI

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It’s Open Championship week and that means course conditions are the talk of the town. Firm, fast, and windy conditions are expected on the links of Portrush, so we will be seeing a lot of players using driving irons that they might not otherwise play with week to week on the PGA Tour.

Not only are driving irons a hot item for players, but for OEMs launching new and prototype versions including TaylorMade, which has a new P790 UDI in some bags including Mr. Tiger Woods (credit to Rob Brooks on Instagram for the spot).

Like with many clubs just being seeded to tour, we don’t have official comment from the team at TaylorMade…but, like many times before, we have a couple of ideas based off the cosmetics of what might be in store if and when this thing comes to retail.

Some history: It’s been a while since TaylorMade introduced a new UDI (Ultimate Driving Iron) to its lineup.  There was the GAPR Low, which was very UDI “like” but the UDI as a whole never had an adjustable hosel. (There were Tour Issue versions of the GAPR Lo that had a fixed hosel and no adjustability)

The original (2017) P790 UDI

The “just-spotted 2020 (?)” version

The most recent UDI was the original P-790, but this new version has some distinct differences

  • Thinner sole. Based off the pictures, this new P-790 UDI has a thinner sole with more camber to help improve turf interaction. More camber and well-utilized bounce make any club more playable in varying conditions.
  • Shorter blade length. There is no such thing as computer screen calipers but from what we can tell when comparing side by side the new version is shorter. A shorter blade length means a CG closer to the hosel and more workability.
  • Higher toe. Just like the shorter blade length, a higher toe is often more appealing to more players (better players are generally the target for these types of clubs) and what that also “potentially” does is raise the CG. A higher CG will produce lower launching shots BUT with more spin (workability). To counter act the potential extra spin loft adjustments can be made pretty easily, since loft is one of the biggest factors in creating spin.

The one thing that is harder to compared is whats going on inside of this UDI (obviously). There is a screw in the toe, so it can be assumed that there is some sort of foam or material that helps support the face and improve the acoustics of this face thin-faced iron.

Just like we wait for the first group off early Thursday morning at Portrush, we’re just going to have to wait to see what’s really going on this new UDI too.

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Tiger Woods with a new Scotty Cameron at The Open”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from No Gimmes who was quick to spot Tiger Woods preparing for this week’s Open Championship with a new Scotty putter. Woods has also been seen warming up for this week’s event at Royal Portrush with his old faithful on the greens, but our members have been discussing the thinking behind the 15-time-major champion’s potential change, as well as the putter itself.

*Photos from Golf Central’s ‘Live From The Open’ coverage

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • TheMoneyShot: “I’m really surprised he is making the switch. Let’s see if it’s in the bag come Thursday.”
  • Hedgehog: “That topline and the alignment aid and all the smooth lines, gorgeous!”
  • MuniPukeLife: “Makes sense as his trusty NP2 is super light by today’s putter standards.”

Entire Thread: “Tiger Woods with a new Scotty Cameron at The Open”

 

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Mizuno T20 wedges: Let’s get spinning

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Spin.

We’re always trying to reduce it with our driver and increase it with our wedges for maximum control, but with the rules of golf being so strict, how do actually achieve a performance gain? Simple engineering…

This is the Mizuno T20 wedge.

It’s been a few years since we have seen a T (teardrop) wedge from our friends at Mizuno, and there is good reason.

Let’ get into a quick history lesson: before the JPX900 series was introduced, Mizuno had quietly been realigning the product cycles of the MP and JPX lines. You might remember back a few years ago now before the MP18s hit the scene that there was a bit of a lull in the MP line—so much, in fact, there was even a thread here on GolfWRX asking “Is Mizuno not making MP irons anymore?”

It was a naturally curious question to a company that always had very standardized release cycles, but it was a long-term play that has paid off tremendously. We now get “T” wedges with MP irons (MP20s to be exact), and we should (from everything I know) continue to see “S” Silhouette (more rounded profile) wedges with future JPX lines.

Before we get to what’s new, how about we first talk about what will be staying the same

  • Grain Flow Forged HD – like all new Mizuno irons, the T20s are made using the same forging process to increase the density of the material in the clubhead for an improved solid feel.
  • Boron – this little element when added to the 1025e mild carbon steel used in the wedges (we’re talking trace amounts equating to 3ppm – parts per million) increases the strength of the material by 30 percent—how crazy is that for chemistry? This improves groove life and has ZERO effect on club feel.
  • Variable Width & Depth Quad Cut Grooves – Like previous T and S wedges, the T20s will have quad cut grooves that will vary in shape based on the loft of the club. Lower lofted wedges are more narrow and deeper, while higher lofted wedges are wider and more shallow since impact happens at lower speeds this increases spin consistency.
  • Same beautiful Teardrop profile from address

So what’s new?

Flow. Just like the MP20s, engineers are bringing more a more extreme CG (center of gravity) shifting philosophy, or as Mizuno explains it, increased vertical moment of inertia to the wedges. As much as you (well maybe not “you,” depending on who you are) might think “a wedge is just a wedge” and loft is the only deciding factor for spin, you couldn’t be further from the truth. By relocating the CG throughout the set and changing the sweet spot height, engineers can further alter the launch and spin precisely for each loft.

It’s about gear effect—the higher you hit above the CG the less spin the ball with have, and the closer to or lower you make impact compared to the CG the more spin you will create. Either way these are wedges, so a 50 degree, for example, is still going to spin, but it is now more controllable (think less likely to ballon or get too high on full shots). On the other side of the equation, a 60-degree wedge will allow for even MORE trajectory and spin control for the low flying quick checkers with zip.

Now about that spin.

By the Rules of Golf, you can’t make grooves sharper, you can’t increase their volume, and you can only have so much surface roughness (sorry but that old Spin Doctor wedge is HIGHLY NON-conforming). So what do you do? You change the way you think about that surface roughness…

Hydroflow Micro Grooves

Instead of traditional laser etching parallel to the grooves, Mizuno engineers took a concept from the high-performance tire world and went perpendicular to the grooves and parallel to the direction the ball moves up the face to channel moisture away. This directional tread has proven to increase spin on shots especially in conditions with moisture up to 1,200 RPM (on a 60-yard shot), that’s a very tangible number. It’s not just about spin either: the more the friction that can be created also means more control on launch angle and less of a “floating” ball flight. That’s how those low zippers keep zippin’!

Don’t think for a second that Mizuno just changed the etching and was done with it. The process went through multiple iterations to figure out how they could improve its life (beyond the boron) and the solution was to etch before the chroming process to elongate the lifespan. The other groovy take for the T20s is the actual reconfiguration of the grooves. To get the bottom groove closer to the leading edge without having it disorient the overall look of the club and making it appear that the heel or toe is thinner on one side. The lowest groove has been shortened and centered.

All of these refinements; CG, micro-grooves, and reconfigured scoring lines add up to one thing: more control and improved shotmaking with your wedges.

Finishes, specs, and grinds

The wishes of many have been answered when it comes to the T20s, there will be a RAW finish (happy dance time) along with traditional chrome and the signature blue ion. Leftys will only be able to get chrome, but all the same options will be available as far as lofts and grinds.

Coming in lofts from 46-60 degrees, the grind options progress depending on the loft and bounce. Going from full-soled in the lower lofts to more aggressive back edge, and heel-toe relief in the 60 degree. These sole shapes came directly from Mizuno’s craftsman that worked with players and prototypes to determine exactly how the bounce and sole shapes should work in harmony.

All of this has come together to create Mizuno’s finest wedge to date.

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