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‘Could Tiger be just as effective without his usual length?’ – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing Tiger’s excellent comeback performance at the PNC Championship.

The performance was so impressive that WRXer ‘jdowning111’ speculates that a shorter hitting Tiger could be just as prolific when he returns to the Tour:

“After watching yesterday’s clinic, made me remember something that Butch Harmon said about Tiger: ‘He only needs 280 off the tee and he can beat everybody with his iron game.’ Have to say maybe he was onto something, I mean, did Tiger even miss an iron shot yesterday? Yes it was best ball but think about it…paired with his son, who’s 12, they shot a 57, and he’s nowhere near 100%?!?”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts on the matter in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • TheNutman: “Tiger can win with different swings, bodies, lengths it just doesn’t matter. He’s Tigerrrrrr. Expect an epic St. Andrews victory.”
  • PhilssTheMannn: “I’m sorry, but you aren’t much contending on tour with 280 off the tee. Not in 2021 at least. 280 would be ranked 192nd on tour in driving distance. The average driving distance on tour 296, 16 yards is almost a 2 club difference for pros. Here are some guys who average more than 280 off the tee in 2021: Zach Johnson, Matt Kuchar, Kevin Kisner.”
  • Quasimoto: “Obvious to me how much practice Tiger has put in from less than 100 yards. His wedges were stellar.”
  • getair23: “TW grimacing a few times on the back 9 Sunday was unfortunately very telling where he currently is. If there is anything left in that leg, we know he will find it. If history is due to repeat itself. I’m hoping this generation’s 86 Masters wasn’t in 2019, and still on the horizon.”

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12 Comments

12 Comments

  1. Dustin

    Dec 27, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    Yes he can and it’s because of one reason. He’s the best overall iron player to ever exist.

  2. geohogan

    Dec 27, 2021 at 10:00 am

    Still in rehab for right leg and bad back
    yet Tiger hits 3w, 277
    So much for power in the golf swing comes from the ground
    or from the legs.
    Its momentum, physics of leverage and timing. Tiger may be
    able to recover these and take a run at Jack’s record(G.O.A.T.)

  3. Jerry

    Dec 26, 2021 at 12:38 pm

    This Tiger guy will never be a Brooks Koepka or Bryson.

  4. Mike

    Dec 26, 2021 at 10:07 am

    Quote above was, “He only needs 280 off the tee and he can beat everybody with his iron game”. Get real. Hate to break the news to you but it’s 2022, not 2002. No one is intimidated by Tiger & subsequently laying down. He will definitely compete (& I hope he does) but any type of dominance ended (thanks to injuries) almost decade ago. All these younger guns grew up on ‘tiger golf’ & thus emulate him, & I’m sure they love the fact he’s out there w/ them (imagine playing / competing w/ your boyhood idol!). Doesn’t mean they want to lose to him though.

    And last time I looked, he still has to walk all 4 days.

  5. Ray

    Dec 23, 2021 at 8:36 pm

    He’s on steroids for sure now. Ball speeds are nearly mid 170’s now which is above tour average. He did juice to recover from his last back surgery and came back with ball speeds in the 180’s. Speed dropped off quickly after he came of the sauce. His speeds now are faster then they were before his car accident. Wonder how long he will stay on sauce and how long it will take him to start looking like Barry bonds

  6. Patrick Reedier

    Dec 23, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    The answer is easy, and it’s no… Being longer off the tee takes pressure off of all other aspects. If he’s having to hit more long irons in, that is more pressure to get it close and take risks. He’s also not the putter he once was, so once again, more pressure on irons and short game.

  7. toywrx

    Dec 22, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Tiger who?

  8. Truesp

    Dec 22, 2021 at 2:17 pm

    I f’ing hope not lol

  9. BobbyG

    Dec 21, 2021 at 10:22 pm

    He hit a 7 iron to 10 feet from about 215 with a little cut and made it look easy. That’s pretty awesome.

  10. Kyle

    Dec 21, 2021 at 3:43 pm

    If he’s 250 or 320 off the tee who cares. Putting wins tournaments. It’s not about how far you hit the ball

    • K

      Dec 22, 2021 at 2:18 pm

      Exactly!
      “drive for show, putt for dough”…. Its Tiger we talking about

      The further you can hit it, the further off line it can go too.
      So if he “only” hits it 270-280 off the tee but finds a high % of fairways specially w/his iron game anything is possible.

  11. El Tigre Woodso

    Dec 21, 2021 at 11:41 am

    He’ll be fine. I haven’t been wrong yet………

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And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.

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In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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