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How do you measure forgiveness in irons? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been taking a deep dive into forgiveness when it comes to irons. WRXer ‘Nev Adams’ uses Mizuno’s MP-20 and JPX921 irons as an example and asks:
“I wonder what the difference is in forgiveness, and how do you measure it?”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- NRJyzr: “Forgiveness is measured in MOI, moment of inertia. MOI for the clubhead is the measure of its resistance to twisting on off-center contact.”
- AC in TX: “I measure by my crap swings … if it still flies straight, it’s forgiving … otherwise not so much.”
- TigerinTheWoods: “Anecdotally, I find the 921 Tour more forgiving than the MP20. I find the spin consistency a big part of that. Very easy to balloon the MB because they are designed for workability. I think that is something not always factored into forgiveness. Your dynamic loft control is tested, and any manipulation of the club face is exaggerated with the COG closer to the hosel. Everything about the tour is more friendly IMO.”
- MtlJeff: “I’ve never really looked at MOI numbers when it comes to forgiveness, just would hit the clubs and see. I remember when the Epic SZ driver came out it had the highest MOI of all time, and I didn’t find it super forgiving for a 460cc driver. I guess some of this is just a personal thing, or how you usually miss. It’s kind of like bounce to me with wedges. I understand the numbers, but I find it doesn’t always mean as much to the individual.”
Entire Thread: “How do you measure forgiveness in irons?”
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- Xander Schauffele what’s in the bag accurate as of the PGA Championship.
Driver: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond (10.5 degrees @10.1)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana PD 70 TX (45.5 inches)
3-wood: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana PD 80 TX
Hybrid: Callaway Apex UW (21 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 90 TX
Irons: Mizuno MP-20 (3), Callaway Apex TCB ’24 (4-10)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Mid X100 (3), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (4-10)
Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw (52-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (56-10S @57), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60-K @61)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Putter: Odyssey Toulon Design Las Vegas Prototype 7CH
Grip: SuperStroke Zenergy Tour 2.0
Grips: Golf Pride MCC Align
Ball: Callaway Chrome Tour
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- Cam Smith what’s in the bag accurate as of the PGA Championship. More photos from the event here.
Driver: Titleist TSR3 (10 degrees, D4 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6 X
3-wood: Ping Max G430 Max (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Red 7 X
7-wood: Titleist TS2 (21 degrees, D4 SureFit setting)
Shaft: UST Mamiya Elements Proto 8F5
Irons: Mizuno Pro Fli-Hi (2, 3), Titleist T100 (5-9)
Shafts: KBS Tour 130 X Custom Series
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F, 52-08F, 56-08M, 60-04T)
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- Patrick Reed what’s in the bag accurate as of the PGA Championship. More photos from the event here.
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Shaft: Aldila Rogue Silver 125 MSI 70 Tour X
3-wood: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond (15 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila Rogue Silver 125MSI 80 Tour X
Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro (18 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom Hybrid 100 TX
Irons: Titleist 716 TMB (2), Grindworks PR-202 (4), Grindworks PR-101A (5-PW)
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Ball: Titleist Pro V1
Grips: Golf Pride MCC
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Deadeye
Nov 18, 2020 at 2:39 pm
Golfworks is the answer. Ralph Maltby published a list of clubs in 2004 that gives all the details on almost any club made. It updated regularly. They also make great clubs.
Frank Crowe
Nov 18, 2020 at 11:13 am
It’s a fine line between forgiveness, clunkiness and playability. The original Big Bertha irons were easy to hit off a tee or a tempting lie but on tight lies or thick rough they were a disaster. Have forgiving long iron in the bag and some nice blades for the scoring shots from 6 iron in.