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New 2019 TaylorMade P790 irons: Subtle changes improve a modern cult classic

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It’s been almost two years since TaylorMade introduced the P790 irons, and I can safely say the positive response and popularity surpassed even TaylorMade’s expectations. It’s a technology-packed, foam-filled players distance iron that had even elite players putting it in the bag.

TM was able to create something that disrupted normal bias for better players. When this group of players typically had eyes for a P730, P750, or P760-type iron, the P790 had some scratching their heads—and ultimately a bunch putting the whole set in the bag. That’s rare in my experience. Let’s be clear, the 2019 TaylorMade P790 irons are first and foremost players distance irons, that’s the category they were designed to live in. But as we discovered, it was one of those rare irons that felt like a true forging, flew and performed like a game improvement club but sacrificed nothing on looks. A unicorn basically. There are very few like it. In golf club design, there is always a sacrifice somewhere but seemingly not in this case.

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2019 TaylorMade p790 4-iron

So why change it? How do you improve on something that checks off so many boxes? Is the risk of messing it up worth it just to get a new product to the market? Why would TaylorMade release a product when the P790 is still in high demand?

I guess this depends on your motives. In this case, it was making something great just a touch better. This is simply a polishing of an already great product. My hunch is TaylorMade is not necessarily trying to convert the current P790 players to the new but to capture those that were on the fence. Smart move, in my opinion. There were a couple of things to do here, and TaylorMade addressed them. Now, these changes are subtle from an apples-to-apples comparison. However, the main things that kept certain players away from the P790 were the top line optics, offset and short iron shaping….

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2019 TaylorMade p790 7-iron

Now, we land on the 2019 TaylorMade P790 irons, and in my opinion, TaylorMade will succeed in converting a few more of these holdouts. Simply put, TM addressed all the main critiques of the original but kept intact the DNA that made the first generation P790 so popular.

2019 TaylorMade P790: On the outside

Like the original, the 2019 P790 has a hollow-body design built with 8620 carbon steel body, forged 4140 carbon steel with a wrapped face construction.

Thinner topline optics are accomplished by a higher blade length out toward the toe, which is a look preferred by elite players. At first glance, you will notice that the topline has a slightly different look, which isn’t a huge change, but that, coupled with the now higher pinched off toe, will be pleasing to the player who prefers a thinner profile up top.

The sole has been tweaked a little to improve turf interaction.

Progressive offset in 3 through 6-irons and a more compact blade length in the 7-PW round off to check off all the better player requests from an optics standpoint.

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2019 TaylorMade P790 pitching wedge

2019 TaylorMade P790: On the inside

SpeedFoam is still the anchor of the technology in this hollow body design. It’s the glue(-like substance) holding the improved P790 together and critical to the interplay of the elements inside the head. However, what TM added was 15 percent more tungsten mass in the cavity (low and across the face) which helps lower the CG even further.

The original P790 was known for a very hot face but now TMAG has created an even thinner face (seven percent, to be exact), which equals a higher COR for faster ball speeds and improved feel.

I think the biggest feature that you can’t see is the newly introduced Progressive Inverted Cone Technology (PICT), which allows a bit more forgiveness and accuracy across the face. This new technology is enhanced with a new more flexible speed pocket that helps even out misses out of the bottom of the face.

Specs

Shafts

True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 steel shafts
UST Mamiya Recoil 760/780 ES SmacWrap graphite

*custom options available

Grips

Golf Pride Tour Velvet 360

Retail availability/price

September  6. $1,399.99 USD (steel); $1,599.99 USD (graphite)

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Johnny Wunder is the Director of Original Content, Instagram Manager and Host of “The Gear Dive” Podcast for GolfWRX.com. He was born in Seattle, Wash., and grew up playing at Rainier G&CC. John is also a partner with The Traveling Picture Show Company having most recently produced JOSIE with Game of Thrones star Sophie Turner. In 1997 Johnny had the rare opportunity of being a clubhouse attendant for the Anaheim Angels. He now resides in Toronto, On with his wife and two sons. @johnny_wunder on IG

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  1. Luke keefner

    Aug 17, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    I bought a full set this spring with the recoil shafts. I was always a Titleist or Mizuno guy but liked the look of these. I hit them at a demo day and ordered them the next week. I played them once and sold my hook prone hybrids. I’m 62 and pretty beat up from work but I can squeeze 175 out of my 6 iron and needed a 4 hybrid for that distance last year. I’m keeping these irons for a long time. (At least until they’re paid off, maybe longer????)

  2. Spencer

    Aug 13, 2019 at 11:51 am

    Irons look amazing and exactly what was said is true, top line optics kept me from considering the irons, but now they look more appealing and will be something to consider for next year.

  3. Jaxharley76

    Aug 12, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    Love my P790, was one of the first guys to get them and helped sell a bunch at my club here in N Florida. Expensive as crap, but worth it. Love Taylormade.

  4. pelling

    Aug 12, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    So basically the Rocketbladez Tour Iron From 2015!

    • jgpl001

      Aug 13, 2019 at 4:09 pm

      The Rocketbladez Tour were ugly, lumps of metal with all the feeling of a rock, but boy did they perform

      Now the ugliness is gone and I can’t wait to try these new p790’s, the old p790’s were just a tad too chunky, but these look good.

  5. TexasSnowman

    Aug 12, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    I am not a TM player (although I could be in the future) but they got it right with the p790. Clean look and the Technology is hidden, Thats what I prefer and I expect many players prefer. Give me the tech in a clean, almost classic looking package. No need for orange, green, big logos or visible badges, etc. I think Titleist may have a problem with the ts3 irons….and maybe the ts2 as far as looks go. Yes, of course its how it performs that is most important, but most players like an iron that also looks good in the bag. (Pavin won the open with the VAS irons, but I don’t think they sold may sets because they were just ugly.)

    • Brandon

      Aug 13, 2019 at 12:17 am

      The VAS titanium driver was the first club I ever owned that truly changed golf for me. Probably because it was when I transitioned to full size clubs from juniors, but I swear I gained 50 yards over the Tommy Armour I was hitting with a steel, short shaft.

  6. Adam

    Aug 12, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    I love the simple logo on it. TM usually loves to pack words and logos on their clubs but they resisted

  7. ken

    Aug 12, 2019 at 8:20 pm

    $1400 for a 8 club set. In five years or less, new iron models will eclipse $200 per club.
    Last week Titleist rolled out their T-100( pro model forged) T-200 (Players type cast head, forged face) and T-300 ( Game improvement) 100% cast head.
    All three models are priced the same. 4 thru Gap or 3 thru pw these are $1200- $1400 depending on from the retailer which one pre orders.
    Titleist states the clubs will become available on 8/30

    • JThunder

      Sep 19, 2019 at 1:30 am

      That’s capitalism for you. It’s a wonder anyone can afford golf at all, considering the cost of healthcare, cable, internet and cell phones.

  8. Cody

    Aug 12, 2019 at 11:10 am

    I know the 790 irons are long(er)… but are they consistently long? Like… is there a chance to hit a hot spot and all of a sudden you are air mailing greens?

    • Curt

      Aug 12, 2019 at 12:05 pm

      Yes, hot spots will still be there! 25 yard flyers here and there.

      • Scooter

        Aug 13, 2019 at 1:40 pm

        This is where I have trouble calling them “players” irons. In a forged/players club, you would hope hot spots wouldn’t exist.

        In theory, better players want a mid/low iron that is consistent in its flight and distance. I’d be afraid of hitting one “too good” with these and flying greens or hitting the occasional knuckle ball that doesn’t spin and flies and extra 15 yards.

        Distance iron with better feel than others in this category: Yes.

        Players Iron: Not so sure.

      • Brad

        Aug 13, 2019 at 5:32 pm

        How does one know this already?? Could this not be improved?

  9. Terry jones

    Aug 12, 2019 at 9:28 am

    Hopefully you can now get the udi in left handed version

    • Jay

      Aug 13, 2019 at 12:04 am

      TXG has said they are not doing a lefty UDI. 🙁

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2021 PXG Gen4 driver and fairway woods: More technology, greater adjustability, improved performance

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After some serious teasing, PXG is delivering all the tech details of their new Gen 4 metals series featuring the 0811 XF, 0811 X, and 0811 XT drivers, along with the new Gen4 0341 X fairway woods, and 0317X hybrids.

Gen4 series goals

  • Utilize all available technology to improve performance
  • Offer greater adjustability
  • Make them easier to dial in for each individual golfer

PXG Gen4 driver technology

The Gen4 series of drivers have been re-engineered from the top down to boost MOI and ball speed with the most noticeable change being the two-tone crown comprised of carbon fiber with an aluminum vapor (AV) coating.

This AV process has been used in the past on a select number of high-end shafts to increase material stiffness—most notably, the Mitsubishi AV Raw series—but in true PXG fashion, this is the first time this type of material and process has been used in clubhead design.

“The AV technology (in the crown)adds a big performance element thanks to the stiffening of the carbon fiber and mass savings.” 
Brad Schweigert

This AV carbon fiber panel is stronger and lighter than traditional carbon fiber and helps lower the center of gravity. It also serves the secondary purpose of creating perimeter weighting like a cavity back iron, since the crown features titanium on the heel and toe sections.

For the internals of the driver, we are greeted with the familiar PXG honeycomb TPE insert to dampen acoustics and increase feel, which brings us to the final parts of the puzzle—the face and sole.

The new PXG Gen4 driver uses an exclusive high-speed titanium 421 face, which allows the engineers to push the envelope of variable face thickness to save mass and increase the COR outside of the sweet spot. This material was first introduced in the 0211 driver and has carried forward into Gen4.

“The Ti412 is the perfect material for a driver face.” -Brad Schweigert

The reason this titanium material works so well is that it has a high yield strength with low elastic modulus—in layman’s terms, the Ti412 is strong when placed under stress to hold its shape but is also springy/elastic to create ball speed.

Now to the sole. Much like the Prototype drivers that came before it, PXG is officially ditching the smaller adjustable weights in the Gen4 in favor of larger, more condensed points of mass adjustability. This makes adjusting the driver faster and easier and helps create more discretionary weight to be positioned around the driver’s head since the smaller housing (places within the head that hold the weight) are now much lighter.

Driver Models

PXG 0811 XF

The 0811 XF is the largest profile from address and is longer heel to toe to increase stability in the hitting area, making it the most forgiving driver in the PXG line.

The available lofts are 7.5, 9, and 10.5 degrees (right and left-handed)

PXG 0811 X

The 0811 X has a taller face height and shortened length from front to back. This helps lower the CG relative to the face to help produce higher-launching, lower-spinning shots, while still maintaining forgiveness. This is the lowest-spinning driver in the new Gen4 lineup and spins on average just over 400 rpm less than the XF.

The available lofts are 7.5, 9, 10.5, and 12 degrees (right and left-handed)

PXG 0811 XT

The 0811 XT is the “outlier” compared to the other drivers in the Gen4 line because it has been completely optimized for golfers who swing the driver over 105 mph. It offers a more aerodynamic shape, along with a smaller profile to increase workability.

The available loft are 9, 10.5, and 12 degrees (right and left-handed)

Order date and price

The Gen4 0811 series drivers are available for order now through PXG.com and are priced at $549.

PXG Gen4 fairways and hybrids

The PXG Gen4 fairway woods and hybrids feature much of the same technology and design philosophies as the Gen4 driver, but in packages optimized for their unique functions using materials better suited for the job—the most noted being HT 17170 maraging steel face inserts.

Technology and design

The fairway woods and hybrids utilize the same concept from the crown of the Gen4 driver to lower CG and boost MOI by removing the middle section and replacing it with the new AV carbon composite. Although the carbon panel on the crown is smaller compared to the driver, the steel it replaces is almost eight times heavier, which makes it extremely effective for saving weight.

The 0341 X fairway woods feature a deeper face design with a low center of gravity to help optimize spin performance. For a fairway wood that means creating a stable flight that is also stoppable in the higher lofts since those clubs are used more often from the rough and to approaches greens.

The hybrids feature the same construction of the fairway woods, but unlike PXG hybrids of the past that are traditionally more rounded and “wood” shaped, the new 0317 X have a longer look from heel to toe with a deeper squared-off toe profile to make them appear slightly more iron-like from address, which helps increase high-low MOI (which is the measurement of forgiveness up and down the face).

Both the soles of the fairway woods and hybrids now use the larger weights to make adjusting faster and rely on a dual weight system to create either a neutral or draw bias. In the fairway woods, this is an evolution from the earlier released Prototype which featured a third toe weight port but based on player testing and feedback it was felt that the extra weight saved from the third weight port could be better utilized to optimize spin versus offering a rarely used fade bias.

The change in the weight system came directly from our fitters. The previous system was underutilized and we wanted golfers to see as much benefit as possible and the larger weights offer greater CoG customization.
-Mike Nicolette

Although not a technology feature, one key thing to point out about the Gen4 lineup—along with all PXG clubs—is since every club is custom built from scratch, they are completely unisex. This is a design characteristic PXG has had since the beginning and is an often overlooked part of their design philosophy. From the club designers all the way to PXG fitters, they don’t believe in “men’s and women’s” clubs —they believe in golf clubs designed to fit any player and the Gen4 reinforces that philosophy.

Fairway wood specs, price, and availability

The fairway woods will be available in the lofts of 13, 15, 18, and 21 degrees (right and left-handed), and are available now for custom order – they are priced at $429 each.

Hybrid specs, price, and availability

The hybrids will be available in the lofts of 17, 19, 22, 25, and 28 degrees (right and left-handed), and are available now for custom order – they are priced at $379 each.

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2021 PXG Gen4 irons: Precision-driven performance

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After teasing us for weeks PXG is delivering all the tech details of their new Gen4 irons featuring the 0311 XP, 0311 P, and 0311 T irons, and we’re here to break it down.

Gen4 iron goals

  • Utilize all available technology to improve performance.
  • Optimize internal material to increase distance and feel.
  • Make them easier to dial in for each individual golfer.

2021 PXG Gen4 irons: Technology

PXG irons have always been about pushing the envelope of technology and performance without sacrificing looks or feel. Now with the release of the PXG Gen4 series—featuring the 0311 XP, 0311 P, and 0311 T irons—PXG is taking things even further with improved technology and construction methods.

“Our goal is always to excel at the process of building the best clubs possible. We start with a target and we’ll do anything to reach that performance goal – we’ve actually overachieved with the new Gen4 iron.”
– Bob Parsons, Founder PXG

Technology and design keys

Let’s start with the body, where PXG is once again utilizing a high-end, five-times forging process to shape the 8620 soft carbon steel to within tight tolerances of its final spec. This five-step process requires multiple forging dies, and unlike with casting, where molds have a much longer life-cycle, the forging dies to need to be replaced more often to keep production parts in-spec. It costs more, but the end result is a better final component.

Now to the faces of the PXG 0311 irons, which are made from HT 17170 high-strength maraging steel. This is the same steel used in the construction of the faces for PXG fairway woods and hybrids and is designed for flex and speed. This material allows the engineers to stretch the limit of face thickness and increase ball speed and save mass to be repositioned around the head to increase MOI (forgiveness).

Finally, when it comes to technology, it wouldn’t be a PXG iron if it wasn’t filled with a material to support the super-thin face, and for the Gen4 irons, engineers are using a softer more compressible material to allow the face to flex while still maintaining structural stability. More flex means more rebound, and more rebound equals more distance from shots hit around the face.

One big change – One big weight

The PXG Gen4 series is a total design departure from anything PXG has done before, and the most noticeable element—especially in the irons—is the signature smaller weight screws have been mostly removed in favor of a single larger one.

This larger centrally located weight screw in the rear of the irons eliminates the need for swing weight to be dialed in using tip weights located in the hosel. Yes, hosel tip weights are still standard in most irons in the industry and don’t generally have an effect on performance, but at a very very finite level, they alter the CG (center of gravity), and when your goal is perfection, you don’t cut corners.

Just heads up for you tinkerers though, the weights will be factory-installed and are not intended to be changed after the final build, but they will be used by fitters during the fitting process to offer another level to the PXG custom fitting experience.

Meet the PXG Gen4 iron models

0311 XP

The 0311 XP is the largest iron in the Gen4 0311 family and is intended for mid-to-higher handicap golfers who are looking for additional height and distance from their irons. The XP also features the greatest amount of offset, but can still be easily blended with other irons in the series to build combo sets if requested.

0311 P

The 0311 P is Goldilock’s “just right” bowl of porridge in iron form. It offers the perfect blend of playability and forgiveness in a medium to compact package intended for mid to lower handicap golfers. The 0311 P has a moderate amount of offset that transitions through the set which makes it the perfect candidate to combo with the XP longer irons or the T short irons…

0311T

The 0311 T’s are the smallest “hollow body” iron in the PXG lineup and offer all the same technology but in a compact profile. If you want something smaller than this, it’s going to have to be the 0311, or 0211 ST ( Super Tour ) blades.

With the 0311T, you get workability and ball speed from a blade-like club, without the worry of coming up way short if you miss it outside of the sweet spot. Thanks to the small amount of progressive offset they also combo very nicely with the 0311_ longer irons.

Pricing and availability

The entire PXG Gen 4 line of clubs are now available to be custom ordered from PXG through PXG.comand all three new 0311 iron models are priced at $349.99 a club, in-stock configurations with additional shaft and grip options available with an upcharge.

 

 

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Abraham Ancer’s custom Miura irons and MMT shafts at the 2021 Players

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Spotted this week at the 2021 Players are Abraham Ancer’s custom Miura irons and MMT shafts. Ancer’s Miura TC-201 irons have always turned heads with our members, and the Mexican’s logo on the clubs and shafts is a new feature for 2021.

In addition, Ancer’s Miura wedges also feature the 30-year-old’s Flecha Azul Tequila logo.

Here are a couple of posts from our members, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • jwhite86: “They look incredible… my next set of irons are definitely going to be Miura.”
  • reidcross: “Ancer might have my favorite bag on tour. Just an absolute boss all around.”

Entire Thread: “Abraham Ancer’s custom Miura irons and MMT shafts at the 2021 Players”

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