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Is the Srixon Q-Star Tour the most technically sound $30 golf ball?

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At $29.99 per dozen, Srixon calls the Q-Star Tour golf ball the most spin for your money. And who’s to argue?

It’s a three-piece golf ball with a urethane cover that has the same core technologies as Srixon’s tour-caliber Z-Star and Z-Star XV golf balls. The difference is that the Q-Star Tour has a lower compression and a new dimple pattern to help slower swing-speed players maximize distance. The balls also sell for $10 less than the Z-Star and Z-Star XV. Sound almost too good to be true? We put Srixon on the hot seat to get the scoop in this Q&A.

Editor’s Note: Srixon also allowed GolfWRX members to ask anything they wanted about its Q-Star golf balls in a forum thread. Read the “Live Q&A” here.

GolfWRX: What’s the significance of offering a three-piece golf ball with a urethane cover at this price point?

Michael Ross, Senior Product Manager for Golf Balls at Srixon: Real value for golfers. That’s what this is all about. Golfers can now purchase a premium golf ball that offers tremendous performance at an incredible value. We believe that, if golfers are going to spend $30 on a dozen golf balls, they deserve a ball that performs from anywhere on the golf course. Not just off the tee, not just around the greens, but total performance, from tee to green. And we deliver that performance and value with the new Q-Star Tour, which is a soft-feeling golf ball with a urethane cover that flies long and straight off the tee and off your irons and delivers tour-quality spin control around the greens. We strongly encourage anyone to play this ball against their gamer and see which ball provides the best performance for their particular game. We believe that golfers will be pleasantly surprised by the performance of the Q-Star Tour.

In comparison to the Z-Star and Z-Star XV golf balls, what kind of golfer is best suited for the Q-Star Tour?

A: The Q-Star Tour is a great option for many golfers because of its great feel, tremendous combination of driver and iron distance and its tour-caliber greenside spin. It was designed primarily for good players with moderate swing speeds. The problem we identified is that these golfers aren’t optimizing their performance by playing a high-compression tour ball because they aren’t able to compress it, so they end up sacrificing distance off the tee and with their irons. There are a ton of great golfers like this around the country. They don’t have high swing speeds but can get up and down from anywhere because they are great wedge players. These golfers don’t need to play a high-compression tour ball just so they have the excellent greenside spin performance that they’re used to. They would benefit greatly from playing a ball that offers the same great greenside performance, but is easier to compress. That’s why we developed the lower-compression Q-Star Tour. It delivers excellent greenside spin performance and, equally as important, golfers with moderate swing speeds will also see a nice increase in their driver distance and especially their iron distances. One additional benefit is that the Q-Star Tour has very low spin off the driver, so not only will their drives go farther but they should find that their drives are more accurate as well. That won’t hurt your score!

Will golfers who played the old Q-Star likely upgrade to the Q-Star Tour, or will they need to switch to another model golf ball?

A: Golfers who play the old Q-Star will quite possibly choose to play the Q-Star Tour, or they might move to the new Q-Star when it launches in August. Either way, they are going to get a golf ball that offers excellent, balanced performance from tee to green. Both of these balls deliver this. The choice will depend on factors such as what price point they are more comfortable with and also which type of cover they prefer: an ionomer cover, which is more durable and will last longer, or a urethane cover, which is softer and will generate more greenside and approach spin. It really depends on what golfers are looking for in their golf ball and how much they want to spend. Everyone has different goals on the golf course in terms of performance. Our goal is to offer great golf balls for players at every level, and I think both the Q-Star and Q-Star Tour accomplish that goal.

What’s the relationship between compression and spin? How can a lower compression golf ball produce similar greenside spin to a Tour golf ball with higher compression? 

Compression doesn’t play a factor in greenside spin. Greenside spin is determined mainly by the softness and elasticity of the cover of the golf ball. At impact, the cover of a golf ball deforms and spreads out across the clubface, creating friction with the clubface, which in turn generates spin. More greenside spin is produced when the contact surface area between the ball and the clubface is greater. Urethane cover golf balls create more spin because urethane covers are softer and spread out across more of the clubface. Thus, a low-compression golf ball can produce the same amount of spin as a higher-compression ball if it has the same cover material and technology. That’s why the urethane cover Q-Star Tour is able to produce similar greenside spin to a higher-compression Tour golf ball.

Where a low-compression ball differentiates itself from higher-compression balls is with driver spin. As a general rule, lower-compression golf balls have less driver spin than higher-compression balls because they compress more at impact, resulting in a smaller moment of inertia arm and less torque than a high-compression ball, and therefore less spin.

It seems the Q-Star Tour golf balls are very similar to the Z-Star golf balls in terms of premium materials and construction. What is different about the Q-Star Tour that allows it to sell for $10 less? 

The only real difference with the Q-Star Tour is that it has a lower compression. It’s very similar to the Z-Star golf balls in terms of premium materials and construction. When we analyzed the market and the size of the demographic that would benefit from playing the Q-Star Tour, we realized that we were tapping into one of the largest demographics out there. There are so many golfers who stand to improve their performance by playing this golf ball. Therefore, in determining pricing, our primary objective was to provide excellent value to golfers by offering the Q-Star Tour at a very competitive, aggressive price.

Golfers have different pain points when it comes to how much they’ll spend on a dozen golf balls, so we wanted to ensure that we priced the Q-Star Tour in a comfort zone for a very large segment of golfers. Is the price a market disruption? I suppose it could be looked at that way, especially given the exceptional performance of the Q-Star Tour compared to similarly priced and more expensive golf balls. But for us, what’s most important for our growth is to provide golfers with excellent performance and excellent value at the same time with all our golf balls. We want golfers to play the best ball for their game because that will help them improve, which in turn creates greater enjoyment and more interest in the game. Now, if golfers want to spend $10 more or close to $20 more per dozen on a golf ball because they believe it’s the best option for them, they still can. However, with the Q-Star Tour, now they can spend less and potentially gain better performance for their game than they might from a more expensive, higher-compression ball that wasn’t designed for their swing speed. That’s the objective with the Q-Star Tour – to help golfers with average swing speeds optimize their “full game” performance.

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  1. Primo

    May 26, 2017 at 11:57 am

    Callaway Hex Soft, 4 dozen, $59 @ Costco, nice ball…Callaway Chrome logo overruns @ Golfsmith, or any ball really, sometimes very cheap…bought Chromes, could be first gen, with various logos for $6 a dozen, worth the effort if you can find a Golfsmith. I get ProV corporate balls free, trade them with others though, great ball, just not great for me…

  2. Algorithm22

    May 3, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Played this ball today and love it. I am a senior golfer with a 11 hcp and SS around 95. Drives are usually around 230. Had drives today of 240, 245 and 250. Great feel on both driver and irons. The ball I will now be playing.

  3. retired04

    May 1, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    I’m 70, index 7.2 on white tees-driver swing speed 76-80 depending on how many parts hurt that day. Q star tour? Love the feel, gained 10 yds with driver-BUT this thing stays in the air forever with the wind. No appreciable gain with irons, but Spin it same as Pro V1 around the greens. Have committed to this ball for the year and love it. If you fit the profile, try it-really try it.

  4. Steve S

    May 1, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    I bought 2 dozen 2015 Q stars last year. I gave them all the “balance” test of spinning them in salt water(allows the balls to float in water). 18 out of 24 were out of balance. I did the same test with a dozen titleist and bridgestones and didn’t have one failure. Sent an email to Srixon with my results and they sent a very polite email thanking me for my input. Said that they would notify their quality department and get back to me. Dead silence ever since. Haven’t tried the Kirklands yet, but at $15 a dozen I’m not expecting Titleist results but i’ll bet they’re better than Srixon….

  5. Charles Bartholomew

    May 1, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    I really like this ball. I was lucky to be selected to test it. I received a dozen of these. My initial observations: Has a little firmer feel than what I normally play; Holds line well in flight; While I did not get exceptionally more distance out of it, maybe three yards, I did get an increase. Rolls true when putting; Does not appear to roll as far as my current ball, but I can adjust for this given how true it tracks. This ball is finding its way into bag. Oh yes, and I made two birdies in nine holes using it. I look forward to many good holes of golf with this ball.

  6. Brian

    Apr 30, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Does GolfWRX actually test anything, or are they just defacto advertisement?

    • Travis

      May 1, 2017 at 12:40 am

      You can find enough reviews online to attest to srixon making good golf balls, from your recreational golf peers. Everyone advertises, they basically made a lower compression Z star and are selling it for cheaper. If Toyota came out with a Prius that couldn’t reach the same max speed as a Prius but had all of the same benefits and Had a cost of %75 of the price they would advertise it too. Not to mention everyone buys a Prius for the mpg/price rather than how fast it can go.

  7. Tourgrinder

    Apr 30, 2017 at 11:28 am

    So I read this article. Then I decided to check with PGA Superstore online. Price was $33.99 per dozen. So much for the manufacturer’s suggested retail price. I can only hope the local retail is either $29.99 as promoted, or perhaps lower. You know some kind of funny business is afoot when a retailer is asking for a higher price than manufacturer’s suggested.

  8. Crash Test Dummy

    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:39 am

    The Srixon Z-Star XV is one of my favorite balls. However, the Q-Star wasn’t a great fit for me. I am sure it is a good ball for some. However, I don’t hit it very far and the ball doesn’t launch off the face like the Z-Star XV does. I think the compression is too low for my hit.

  9. #1 Ball for a reason... EVERY SEASON.

    Apr 29, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    I’ve been chipping with it lately and it seems nice but our greens are unusually firm so its bit tough to compare at this time. The cover is definitely soft as advertised (fingernail test) and the compression feels and sounds soft on chips and putts too. So far, I’m impressed.

  10. Sam

    Apr 29, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    There’s only one company that makes golf balls, Titleist

    • Simms

      Apr 30, 2017 at 12:23 am

      Seems D J, among others will disagree with that statement….

    • Harry

      May 1, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      One wonders how many tour players would stop playing Pro V1/V1X if they were not paid to play them. Paid by consumers who pay $5/ball to be like the pros. Yet we know it’s not the ball that makes the shot but the one holding the club.

      • Player

        May 6, 2017 at 8:20 pm

        The real statement is made by players at the US Amateur, Girls Junior, NCAA Championships Mid Am, etc…. TITLEIST DOMINATES those events and no one is getting paid. Probably MORE PGA Tour Pros would play the ProV1 or V1x if there wasn’t money floating around to play Bridgestone, Callaway, Srixon and others.

  11. Rich Douglas

    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    So, it’s the same ball as their tour ball, but with a lower compression. Because of the market for that kind of ball, they sell for $10 less. That means the purchasers of the tour ball are being gouged. Nice.

  12. Pete

    Apr 29, 2017 at 11:23 am

    Bought an interesting ball (2 dozen for $35 on line) called Callaway HEX PRO. my driver speed is in the middle 90’s and this ball seems to fly as far any. It is a 4 piece ball with a urethane cover that stops and even spins back some with my slower swing speed. I tried the new Tour Q-Star and for me it performs the same as the HEX PRO.

    • Ric

      Apr 29, 2017 at 10:51 pm

      Those may be the tour hex ball from 10 years ago ? RE-labeled ? I can’t believe they would design a totally new ball for that price.

      • Simms

        Apr 30, 2017 at 12:26 am

        Ric, you maybe right it maybe an older ball, but I have some of them and they are a very good ball…you know the Kirkland, Costco ball is an older ball also, as is the MC C-4…but the difference is far less then the savings…

  13. H

    Apr 29, 2017 at 11:18 am

    Amazing ball. Great feel too

  14. acemandrake

    Apr 29, 2017 at 10:17 am

    It’s a good ball that is selling at a promotional price of 6 for $10 (limit of 5 6-packs).

    Just like they say: Lower compression ball with a urethane cover for more spin.

    I have a lower swing speed so I guess that the lower compression helps me with launch & distance?

  15. gwillis7

    Apr 29, 2017 at 10:16 am

    Selling these in a 6-ball pack for $10 at Golf Galaxy right now in OH, bought a couple packs (no brainer, 20 bucks for a dozen urethane covered balls). Can’t wait to try them as I really liked the ’16 Q-Stars, but the cover would get beat up pretty easy. Hopefully will stop raining this weekend so I can give them a go!

  16. Desmond

    Apr 29, 2017 at 10:00 am

    Want to try it …

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the pros and cons of using a pitching or gap wedge from an iron set. WRXer ‘jpark0221’ kicks off the thread, asking:

“What is the benefit of doing this instead of using PW from the iron set, which is essentially 10i? I see a lot of pros using wedges from different brands (e.g. Vokey) instead of PW from the same set.”

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Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • North Butte: “The only way you’ll know is try a different (specialty) wedge instead of the one marked P and see how it works. Give it a couple of dozen rounds, you can’t really tell whether a wedge has an advantage until you get used to playing various shots with it. My point being…they play those wedges because it’s what works best for their game. And you ought to play what works best for your game too. Your best choice won’t necessarily be the same type of club as someone else’s.”
  • Jc0: “If you look a little closer, you’ll notice that most pros who have a specialty 46/48 wedge usually play cavity backs. The speciality wedge is more blade-like to allow a little more control and the ability to play shots a little easier than the PW that matches their set would provide. If a pro plays blades, they usually have the same blade for PW.”
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TaylorMade Golf has today announced the latest evolution of its acclaimed P700 Series with the all-new P770, P7MC, and P7MB irons.

TaylorMade P770 Irons

The all-new P770 irons feature a thinner top line, less offset in long irons, and a shorter blade length when compared to the P790. With its hollow body construction and forged L-Face, the 2022 P770 is designed to provide elevated distance, forgiveness, and excellent feel in a smaller sized head.

The P770 features FLTD CG, a strategic design that positions the center of gravity (CG) lowest in long irons and progressively shifts it higher throughout the set to the shorter, weaker lofted irons. The tungsten weighting scheme in the long and middle irons has been redesigned, shifting more weight to the longer irons’ low tungsten mass and a reduction in the middle irons’ tungsten, resulting in an ascending CG through the set.

The aim behind the FLTD CG strategic design is to create easier launch and playability in the long irons while optimizing trajectory and spin in the scoring clubs. 

The P770 irons feature SpeedFoam Air, a technology introduced in 2021 with the launch of the P790. SpeedFoam Air dampens sound and strategically supports the face with a material 69 percent less dense than SpeedFoam, which was seen in the prior generation of the P770.

In addition to the added speed made possible by the thinnest P770 face TaylorMade has produced, the Thru-SlotSpeed Pocket and Inverted Cone Technology aim to help unlock increased ball speed across the face and forgiveness low in the face, where mishits happen most commonly.

“P700 Series irons need to be technical, elegant and timeless and the new P·770 design has all of that in spades. We wanted to take as much performance and hide it on the inside of the iron to where you look at it and it looks like a clean and classic iron with the pearl satin chrome finish and hint of mirror on the toe. On the inside, the technology we have poured in to this iron creates a product that we believe is truly one of one in this space.” – Matt Bovee, Director, Irons Product Creation

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  • Specs: P770 is offered in 3-PW/AW and comes equipped with KBS Tour Steel shafts (X130g, S 120g) as well as Golf Pride Z-Grip 360 in Grey/Black
  • Availability: Pre-order on December 6 at TaylorMadeGolf.com and at retail beginning January 20, 2023
  • Pricing: $1299 USD (steel) and $1499 USD (graphite)

TaylorMade P7MC Irons

The tour-inspired P7MC iron features minimal offset and perimeter weighting.

A narrow sole and tight leading edge aims to ensure consistency through the turf, while TaylorMade’s Compact Grain Forging process uses 2,000 tons of pressure, more than double the industry standard, with the additional force giving TaylorMade engineers precision control at a micro level, producing a tighter grain structure for the best possible feel and strength properties.

Compact Grain Forging seeks to deliver a refined composition inside and out, with the sophisticated craftsmanship coming to life with a satin finish and forged “Metal-T” within the cavity back.

Per TaylorMade, precision in P7MC is paramount, which is why the face of this iron is continued to be machined. Machining the face aims to ensure precision and quality with TaylorMade’s most aggressive score line geometry for exacting shot making.

“There’s no better feeling than a solidly hit forged iron. For pure ball strikers, the consistency of P7MC rivals anything in the marketplace today and has been a favorite among skilled golfers. For players who choose to combo, our cohesive design language allows you to seamlessly pair it with either P770 or P7MB. No two golfers play the game exactly alike, and one of the things I love about our P·700 Series family is the ability for golfers to personalize a set to match their needs and maintain aesthetic unity.” – Matt Bovee, TaylorMade Golf, Irons Product Creation

Specs, Availability & Pricing

  • Specs: P7MC is offered in 3-PW and come equipped with KBS Tour Steel shafts (X130g, S 120g) as well as Golf Pride Z-Grip 360 in Grey/Black
  • Availability: Pre-order on December 6 at TaylorMade Golf.com and at retail beginning January 20, 2023
  • Pricing: $1299 USD (steel) and $1499 USD (graphite) as seven-piece sets

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The sole of P7MB is one millimeter narrower than the previous generation, meaning TaylorMade engineers had to add slightly more bounce to the leading edge which creates a completely different sensation through the turf. Total effective bounce is a combination of sole width and bounce angle, which engineers were able to perfect by increasing the bounce angle to keep the sole from getting caught in the turf.

The shorter blade length of P7MB allowed TaylorMade engineers to create an updated backbar using symmetrical geometry. This allows for more mass to be positioned directly behind the face to support the point of impact and elevate feel.

In addition, the P7MB also features the Compact Grain Forging and machined face and grooves that are also seen in the P7MC irons.

“The narrower sole width of P7MB is a direct result of testing and feedback from Rory McIlroy, Collin Morikawa and our TaylorMade Tour pros. Rory and Collin worked with us to identify the right sole geometry and bounce to match what they were looking for and we perfected that with P7MB. Having two of the best players in the world being a driving force behind the design of this iron have us extremely excited to bring it to the marketplace.” – Matt Bovee, Director, Irons Product Creation

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