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Titleist is releasing new “AVX” premium golf balls, made for more distance

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GolfWRX has learned that Titleist is testing new “AVX” golf balls — made with premium performance urethane covers and designed for more distance and a softer feel — in three different markets. The new three-piece golf balls will hit the shelves of golf shops and retail stores for the same price as Titleist’s Pro V1 and Pro V1x golf balls on October 6 in only Florida, California and Arizona to evaluate the demand for such a product.

Discussion: See what GolfWRX members are saying about Titleist’s AVX golf balls here

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The golf balls will be available in both white and high optic yellow based on the photos of the packaging and golf balls.

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According to language written on Titleist’s AVX packaging, the golf balls will have a new, “high speed,” low-compression core that’s designed for a softer feel and more distance. There is also a “high flex casing layer” to enhance speed and control spin. The “GRN41 urethane cover” is said to deliver scoring control, a soft feel and durability.

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It’s clear from the photos we’ve obtained that the AVX golf balls feature a new dimple pattern, at least compared to the Pro V1 and Pro V1x golf balls. According to the packaging, it’s a “352 tetrahedral catenary dimple design” to make it more aerodynamic for flight consistency.

Discussion: See what GolfWRX members are saying about Titleist’s AVX golf balls here

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  1. Tyler Brooke

    Oct 23, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    For Dummies Version: A ball that will go father then their prov and prov1X but is supposed to perform better around the greens and on the green.

    They also flight iron shots lower and come hot off the face.

  2. Bert

    Oct 20, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    Played the ball today for the first time. Felt good off club face and checked well on full shots into the greens. Distance was OK, not sure I picked up any with my 85 MPH swing speed. What I didn’t like about the ball was how it played for short pitch shots. I usually play a gap wedge, if possible, within 60-30 yards and it will bounce once, twice and then bite hard. This ball felt good but would bounce once, twice and then let go and roll. It tried to get it to bite off tight lie, but usually let go and rolled out more than I like. I switched to the B-330 RXS and got the check I wanted. I hit a few side by side and noticed the difference in bite characteristics. I could get used to it, but not sure. I did like the reaction off my driver, like I mentioned, not sure it was any longer, but flight was good for me. I’ll play them for a few more rounds and get a better feel.

  3. Jerry

    Oct 19, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    What is GRN41 Urethane??

    Not as spinny as their Elastomer Urethane in the ProV1?

    AVX – Amateur VX (ProV1X)

  4. Mat

    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    NXT + Urethane…

  5. Mad-Mex

    Sep 24, 2017 at 4:06 am

    Heard next year they will have a rubber wound balata covered premium golf ball,,,,,,

  6. Bobo

    Sep 23, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    The upgrade to the AVX is now in the minds and mill of the folks at Titleist.
    AVX now….. BWY coming soon!!! (CXZ next year).

  7. Mike Tomasi

    Sep 23, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    They should have just come out with a 70 compression pro v1 and called it the pro v1s. Just my marketing idea.

    • SK

      Sep 23, 2017 at 6:02 pm

      AVX now…. BWY soon…. CXZ coming next year…. otherwise no change

  8. retired04

    Sep 23, 2017 at 6:28 am

    Slower swing speed? Try the Srixon Q Star Tour and do your own comparison. I’m 70. 75-77 swing speed-took the time to hit dozens of full and short game shots actually comparing the Pro Vs to the Srixon ball and the Srixon ball was as good or better at $30 or less per dz.. Had to convince myself and I did.

  9. BO

    Sep 22, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    urethane…. non-urethane…..uranusthane?

  10. 2putttom

    Sep 22, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    lol .. these comments and responses remind me of public comment time at a city council meeting

    • abxgolf

      Sep 22, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      golf clubs and balls are gearhead heaven and let no man put that asunder

  11. James Strachan

    Sep 22, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    VICE are made in yellow.

    • abxgolf

      Sep 22, 2017 at 4:59 pm

      try finding one of those in autumn leaves lol

  12. Jack Nash

    Sep 22, 2017 at 3:48 pm

    Re-Branding
    Re-Engineering
    Re-Thinking
    Re-Imagining (the latest BS acronym)
    Re-Jigging
    Re-Treading

    All great ideas run thru the Constant Mill of failed actual new ideas.

    3 piece balls go far Correct.
    3 piece balls can have a soft cover.
    3 piece balls will never have enuff spin greenside.

    • abxgolf

      Sep 22, 2017 at 4:57 pm

      rush down to yer nearest big box golf mecca store and buy a dozen or two is you loose lotsa balls.

  13. DrB

    Sep 22, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    It is their way of catching up to Bridgestone, Callaway, Wilson (!), and perhaps others without having to eat crow and change their narrative of the last few years. Titleist has always maintained that either ProV1 or ProV1x is the best ball for your game regardless of your swing speed. (Their other balls exist for those players for whom price is a consideration.) Other companies have brought out tour-quality balls optimized for sub-100mph swings and have found great success with customers. So, Titleist had a problem: they could ignore the success of the likes of the Chrome Soft, B330RX, et al, and continue to lose market share, or come up with a new ball optimized for the sub-100mph swing that has a urethane cover, great distance, tour-quality short game performance, but not contradicting their previous proclamations that ProV1(x) is still best for everyone. Enter the AVX

  14. asugrad1988

    Sep 22, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    It sounds like the Bridgestone E5 golf ball. 3 piece ball with a urethane cover. About $20 a dozen.

    • Jack Nash

      Sep 22, 2017 at 3:49 pm

      Add the name Titleist and double the cost. Re-Branding.

    • Mat

      Oct 13, 2017 at 11:20 pm

      And probably not as good as the e5.

  15. MamasBoy

    Sep 21, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    Mo’ distance….. Lo spin…… Hi shot….. Hit da pin

  16. Speedy

    Sep 21, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    No thanks, another of their overpriced balls.

  17. MamasBoy

    Sep 21, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    “made for more distance”??
    I need more distance so I’m gonna switch to AVX and they will match my PXG’s
    AVX + PXG = APXXVG ….. woooh

  18. Rich

    Sep 21, 2017 at 10:55 am

    Flat dimples , looks like the Wilson Staff C golf ball of a few years ago. It seems Wilson Duo had it right after all, Callaway has copied it in the soft, TaylorMade has tried to copy the idea of softer and now another attempt by Titleist to copy the DUO ball. Titleist has again put a ball out that is in the upper ranks in price thinking they will buy it just because of the name…. Titleist over priced and under delivered on most of their goods. They are like the car companies of the mid seventy era.

    • Brian

      Sep 22, 2017 at 7:43 pm

      Golf is a game of ‘status’ and the boys with the newest toys play together. You will never find a foursome of buddies with one playing 5 y.o. clubs. If you wanna play, you gotta pay.

  19. Acew7iron

    Sep 21, 2017 at 8:44 am

    Their answer to the Kirkland ball?

    • Brian

      Sep 21, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      Except it’s still over 3x the price of a Kirkland…

      • Bert

        Oct 4, 2017 at 5:30 pm

        Whatever happened to the Kirkland ball? Is it finally on the shelves again; and if yes, is it really the same specifications as the one that stirred everyone up?

  20. Tanner

    Sep 21, 2017 at 7:47 am

    Perhaps their answer for calls for a yellow pro v ?

    • carl spackler

      Sep 21, 2017 at 8:25 am

      but, but they said they couldn’t make a ball with a urethane cover yellow due to the nature of urethane

  21. stevemac

    Sep 20, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    Yeah we do play golf in Texas year round!!!!!!!! Sure hope I am going to get my test balls here. How do you leave out Texas?

  22. Rich Douglas

    Sep 20, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    Too little information. Are these some cool, new breakthrough? Or are they just re-packaged Titleist Velocity balls? Something in between? Something else?

  23. TigerArmy

    Sep 20, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    Where the hell do these fit in between the ProV1s and the NXTs???
    Looks a lot like the Bridgestone strategy where they try to sell sub par tour balls RX / RXS as premium balls to hackers.

  24. AllanA

    Sep 20, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    AVX … AVX … AVX??? ….. Oh, I get it ….. A (Pro)V(1)X …. LOLOL

  25. Guia

    Sep 20, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    I will give it a try. Personally though, I use any number of brand balls and have seen very little difference.

    • AllanA

      Sep 20, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      Oh, no… there must be a difference… look at all the claims and promises… it must be better because it’s the newest.

    • larrybud

      Sep 21, 2017 at 10:01 am

      There is certainly a difference between urethane and non-urethane balls as far as spin goes, especially on approach shots.

      Distance? Eh, all within your margin of error.

  26. Davey Dave

    Sep 20, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    Looks like a good target for an after-hours water hazard diving expedition. Seriously, I’d like to try them to see if they change my second shot.

  27. golfraven

    Sep 20, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    Looks loke a NXT to me. Same packaging but different name?

  28. Brian

    Sep 20, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    Until their balls are reasonably priced, the only Titleist’s I’ll play are those I find on the course.

  29. Judge Smeills

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    Still waiting for the release of new DT Solo and the Tour Prestige

  30. Irma

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    Titleist, starting to lose their ball market badly to Srixon, Bridgestone, TM, so they decide to copy and say why fight them, join them. Typical of a Korean-owned company looking to cash in, like always, with copies.

    • Thomas A

      Sep 20, 2017 at 4:24 pm

      Fila Korea sold Titleist. They are American, publicly owned now. If you read GolfWRX you’d know this.

      • CCGolfTx

        Sep 20, 2017 at 9:44 pm

        Acushnet owns Titleist but Fila Korea still owns Acushnet and owns the controlling percentage of the company.

      • Irma

        Sep 21, 2017 at 2:16 am

        No, it didn’t. You would know that if you lived in the outside world
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acushnet_Company

        • surewin73

          Sep 21, 2017 at 11:00 am

          From your Wikipedia page….

          The Acushnet Company is an American company and a subsidiary of Fila Korea, Ltd. that makes golf equipment and clothing.

          Acushnet is still owned by Fila Korea!

        • ibo

          Sep 22, 2017 at 10:43 am

          Irma it literally says The Acushnet Company is an American company and a subsidiary of Fila Korea, Ltd. that makes golf equipment and clothing. in the first line of the article. LOL

          • Irma

            Sep 23, 2017 at 6:35 pm

            Yeah. I was answering Thomas A’s retort that Fila Korea sold Titleist. It didn’t.
            You would know that if you understood how the reply listings worked here. Duh

  31. Double Mocha Man

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    Did they stop making the “Velocity”… it was their long ball?

  32. Golf64

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    So 4 balls in the same price category?! Only thing I like about this is it comes in yellow. No customer here at ProV1 prices!

  33. Scott

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Hey why not right? Give it the old Billy Baron!

  34. cgasucks

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    A 3 piece Urethane covered ball at the same price as the Pro V1? There’s no incentive for the golfer to buy the AVX (maybe a dozen or two for curiosity’s sake) long term and might as well buy the tried and true Pro V1 for the same price.

  35. Teaj

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    im confused, someone needs to do a review with these, PROV1 and PROV1X

  36. Golfinnut

    Sep 20, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    with their quarterly golf sales down the toilet … why come out with a premium distance ball priced just like the V1? No one buys the ProV1 for just that reason. It’s just too damn expensive. No wonder it’s only in 3 states.

    • Golfandpuff

      Sep 20, 2017 at 3:59 pm

      Stats? Proof sales are down? Why don’t you get me the mfg cost per ball while you are at it? Thanks!

      • Brian

        Sep 20, 2017 at 4:12 pm

        A simple google search will tell you what is common knowledge on Titleist’s recent sales decline.

        • AllanA

          Sep 20, 2017 at 4:55 pm

          Golf equipment sales to the recreational golf market is down because the average golfer is aging and giving up the game. The demographics backs this up.
          So the golf OEMs are shifting their sales to the upscale market because that’s where the money is. It’s happening to drivers, irons, wedges, balls, everything.
          Most on these forums are not so rich that they don’t have to ask for the price of the equipment; they are mostly gearhead wannabes who fall in love with the newest and fanciest toys.

      • Cdub

        Sep 20, 2017 at 6:51 pm

        They are a public company. Read their last Q earnings release.

  37. AllanA

    Sep 20, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    Titlesist Promises:
    – More distance
    – Softer feeel
    – Enhanced speed
    – Control spin
    – Scoring control
    – Durability
    – More aerodynamic
    – Flight consistency
    – Optic color
    – Fancy dimples
    Premium performance at a premium price on par with ProV1-x.
    Sooo, if you want to be a good golfer you must spend more $$$$ on your equipment, shoes, accessories and clothes too. It only makes sense.

  38. new stuff!!

    Sep 20, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    what I don’t understand is why they don’t make the v1 or v1x in yellow.
    waiting for tp5 to come in yellow as well.
    until then… chrome soft it is

    • AllanA

      Sep 20, 2017 at 5:05 pm

      No ‘yaller’ ball for me…. maybe a pink Volvic…. maybe not …..

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Members’ Choice: The top-5 drivers that golfers want to test in 2018

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Golf’s “off-season” is upon us and the PGAM Show in Orlando is quickly approaching in January, which means it’s time to start thinking about the upcoming driver releases.

We’ve seen a few companies launch their “2018” lines already — such as Cobra with its new King F8 and F8+ — while speculation swirls around the companies who have yet to announce their newest products. For instance, we’ve spotted a new “TaylorMade M4″ driver, and a new “Rogue” driver from Callaway. If history repeats itself and Titleist remains on a two-year product cycle, then we’ll see a replacement for the 917 line sometime in 2018, as well.

The question we posed to our GolfWRX Members recently was, which new or unreleased driver has you most excited heading into 2018? Below are the results and a selection of comments about each driver.

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Note: The comments below have been minimally edited for brevity and grammar. 

Titleist (7.39 percent of votes)

BDoubleG: I know it’s well down the road, but the Titleist 919 is what I’m most looking forward to. I played the 910 until this year and loved it, but I realized that I wasn’t getting much in the way of distance gains with the 915/917, and I was just leaving too many yards on the table. I know it’s a cliche, but I was seeing considerable gains with my G400LS, then my M2 I have now.

I feel like Titleist has been hurting in the driver market share category (and probably elsewhere), as I think a lot of people think that the 913, 915 and 917 have been minor refreshes in a world where almost everyone else has been experimenting with structure (jailbreak, turbulators) or with COG (spaceports, SLDR, G-series extreme back CG). I think if Titleist is going to recapture some of their market share, they will need to start taking an interest in stepping outside of their comfort zone to catch up with everyone else. Maybe I’m hoping for too much, but a D2-style head with ample forgiveness and low-spin (maybe a back-front weight), with the same great sound of the 917, and hopefully getting rid of the “battery taped to the sole” look would be a huge hit in my book.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what they come up with…and I hope I’m not disappointed.

Mizuno GT-180 or otherwise (8.87 percent of votes)

mrmikeac: After thoroughly testing the Mizuno ST-180 and seeing the distance gains I was getting from my Epic, I can’t wait for the GT to get here. Cobra would be next in line for me, but Mizzy really did something special with that JPX-900 and it seems to look like they’re going the same route with these drivers. Excellent feel, forgiveness and simple but effective tech. 

Callaway Rogue, Rogue Sub Zero or otherwise (17.73 percent of votes)

cvhookem63: It seems like we’re not getting a lot of “NEW” this time — just some same lines “improved” on a little. I’m interested to try the Rogue line and M3/M4 line to see if they improved on their previous models. The Cobra F8+ is intriguing to me, as well. I’d like to compare those three to see how they stack up. 

tj7644: Callaway Rogue. It’s gotta make me hit straighter drives right? It sure can’t be my swing…

Equipto: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero, and that’s about it. Most of my testing will be with shafts I presume. 

bangabain: Excited to give the Rogue a shot, although with the hope that there’s a little more fade bias despite the lack of sliding weight.

TaylorMade M3, M4 or otherwise (27.09 percent of votes)

DeCuchi: TaylorMade M3 of course, and the F8+. I’m more interested in the fairways this year though. TaylorMade M4 fairways and Rogue fairways are top of my list. 

elwhippy: TaylorMade M3 and M4. Not owned a TM driver for several seasons and want something with a bit more power than the Ping G Series…

cradd10: M3. Still rocking an OG M1. Super solid driver. Curious to see if the updated version can beat it. 

Cobra F8/F8+ (33.66 percent of votes)

WAxORxDCxSC: I sure want to like the F8 based on looks (I understand I’m possibly in the minority on that one at GolfWRX).

TWshoot67: For me, it’s three drivers: the Cobra F8, F8+ and TM M4. 

The General: Cobra F8 is going to dominate everything, just wait, on the F8

Ace2000: Definitely F8/F8+. Love my Bio Cell+ and can’t help but wonder if these perform as good as they look. 

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True Linkswear goes back to its spikeless roots

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True Linkswear is getting back to its roots, while expanding the singular golf shoe brand’s reach at the same time.

The Tacoma, Washington, company’s Director/Partner, Justin Turner, told us that with the release of the two new models, the company is course-correcting from a move toward the mainstream, spiked golf shoes, and a loss of identity.

In addition to durability issues, Turner said the core True Linkswear customer didn’t appreciate the shift — or the deluge of models that followed.

So, in a sense, the two-model lineup both throws a bone to True devotees and casts a wider net.

Turner and company asked: “If we wanted to restart the brand….what would we value?” A commitment to the brand’s core outsider identity, style as articulated in early models, and an emphasis on quality led Turner on multiple trips to China to survey suppliers in early 2017. Eventually, the company settled on a manufacturing partner with a background in outdoor gear and hiking shoes.

“We’ve spent the last few years scouring the globe for the best material sourcing, reputable factories, advanced construction techniques, and time-tested fundamentals to build our best shoes yet. No cheap synthetics, no corners cut.”

Eventually, True settled on two designs: The Original, which, not surprisingly, has much in common with the zero-drop 2009 industry disrupting model, and the Outsider: a more athletic-style shoe positioned to attract a broader audience.

True Linkswear Original: $149

The company emphasizes the similarity in feel between the Original and early True Linkswear models, suggesting that players will feel and connect to the course “in a whole new way.”

  • Gray, White, Black
  • Waterproof full grain leather
    2-year waterproof guarantee
  • thin sole with classic True zero-drop heel
  • 12.1 oz
  • Sockfit liner for comfort
  • Natural width box toe

True Linkswear Outsider: $169

With the Outsider, True Linkswear asked: “What if a golf shoe could be more? Look natural in more environments?”

  • Grey/navy, black, white colorways
  • EVA midsole for lightweight cushioning
  • Full grain waterproof leather
  • 13.1 oz (thicker midsole than the Original)

The company envisions both shoes being worn on course and off.

True Linkswear introduced the more durable and better-performing Cross Life Tread with both models. Turner says the tread is so good, you can wear the shoes hiking.

Both models are available now through the company website only. True Linkswear plans to enter retail shops slowly and selectively.

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Sean O’Hair and Steve Stricker’s Winning WITBs from the 2017 QBE Shootout

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The team of Steve Stricker and Sean O’Hair closed the QBE Shootout with an 8-under 64 for a two-shot win over Graeme McDowell and Shane Lowry. O’Hair made a timely eagle on the par-5 17th hole at Tiburon Golf Club to lock up the first place prize of $820,000 ($410,000 each).

Here’s a look at their bags.

Sean O’Hair

Driver: Titleist 917D2 (9.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White Prototype 60TX

3 Wood: Titleist 917F2 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana S+ Limited Edition 70TX

5 Wood: Titleist 915F (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana S+ Limited Edition 80TX

Irons: Titleist 716 T-MB (4-iron), Titleist 718 AP2 (5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM7 prototype (50, 54 and 58 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron Concept 2 NB

Golf Ball: Titleist Pro V1

Related: Sean O’Hair WITB

Steve Stricker

Driver: Titleist 913D3 (8.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 8.2X

3 Wood: Titleist 915F (13.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Rayon Tensei CK Pro White 80TX Prototype

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 (17.0 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 9.2X

Irons: Titleist 718 CB (3-9)
Shafts: KBS Tour Prototype

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (46, 54 and 60 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold S400 w/ Sensicore

Putter: Scotty Cameron T5W

Golf Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Related: Steve Stricker WITB 2017

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