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Is the Srixon Q-Star Tour the most technically sound $30 golf ball?

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At $29.99 per dozen, Srixon calls the Q-Star Tour golf ball the most spin for your money. And who’s to argue?

It’s a three-piece golf ball with a urethane cover that has the same core technologies as Srixon’s tour-caliber Z-Star and Z-Star XV golf balls. The difference is that the Q-Star Tour has a lower compression and a new dimple pattern to help slower swing-speed players maximize distance. The balls also sell for $10 less than the Z-Star and Z-Star XV. Sound almost too good to be true? We put Srixon on the hot seat to get the scoop in this Q&A.

Editor’s Note: Srixon also allowed GolfWRX members to ask anything they wanted about its Q-Star golf balls in a forum thread. Read the “Live Q&A” here.

GolfWRX: What’s the significance of offering a three-piece golf ball with a urethane cover at this price point?

Michael Ross, Senior Product Manager for Golf Balls at Srixon: Real value for golfers. That’s what this is all about. Golfers can now purchase a premium golf ball that offers tremendous performance at an incredible value. We believe that, if golfers are going to spend $30 on a dozen golf balls, they deserve a ball that performs from anywhere on the golf course. Not just off the tee, not just around the greens, but total performance, from tee to green. And we deliver that performance and value with the new Q-Star Tour, which is a soft-feeling golf ball with a urethane cover that flies long and straight off the tee and off your irons and delivers tour-quality spin control around the greens. We strongly encourage anyone to play this ball against their gamer and see which ball provides the best performance for their particular game. We believe that golfers will be pleasantly surprised by the performance of the Q-Star Tour.

In comparison to the Z-Star and Z-Star XV golf balls, what kind of golfer is best suited for the Q-Star Tour?

A: The Q-Star Tour is a great option for many golfers because of its great feel, tremendous combination of driver and iron distance and its tour-caliber greenside spin. It was designed primarily for good players with moderate swing speeds. The problem we identified is that these golfers aren’t optimizing their performance by playing a high-compression tour ball because they aren’t able to compress it, so they end up sacrificing distance off the tee and with their irons. There are a ton of great golfers like this around the country. They don’t have high swing speeds but can get up and down from anywhere because they are great wedge players. These golfers don’t need to play a high-compression tour ball just so they have the excellent greenside spin performance that they’re used to. They would benefit greatly from playing a ball that offers the same great greenside performance, but is easier to compress. That’s why we developed the lower-compression Q-Star Tour. It delivers excellent greenside spin performance and, equally as important, golfers with moderate swing speeds will also see a nice increase in their driver distance and especially their iron distances. One additional benefit is that the Q-Star Tour has very low spin off the driver, so not only will their drives go farther but they should find that their drives are more accurate as well. That won’t hurt your score!

Will golfers who played the old Q-Star likely upgrade to the Q-Star Tour, or will they need to switch to another model golf ball?

A: Golfers who play the old Q-Star will quite possibly choose to play the Q-Star Tour, or they might move to the new Q-Star when it launches in August. Either way, they are going to get a golf ball that offers excellent, balanced performance from tee to green. Both of these balls deliver this. The choice will depend on factors such as what price point they are more comfortable with and also which type of cover they prefer: an ionomer cover, which is more durable and will last longer, or a urethane cover, which is softer and will generate more greenside and approach spin. It really depends on what golfers are looking for in their golf ball and how much they want to spend. Everyone has different goals on the golf course in terms of performance. Our goal is to offer great golf balls for players at every level, and I think both the Q-Star and Q-Star Tour accomplish that goal.

What’s the relationship between compression and spin? How can a lower compression golf ball produce similar greenside spin to a Tour golf ball with higher compression? 

Compression doesn’t play a factor in greenside spin. Greenside spin is determined mainly by the softness and elasticity of the cover of the golf ball. At impact, the cover of a golf ball deforms and spreads out across the clubface, creating friction with the clubface, which in turn generates spin. More greenside spin is produced when the contact surface area between the ball and the clubface is greater. Urethane cover golf balls create more spin because urethane covers are softer and spread out across more of the clubface. Thus, a low-compression golf ball can produce the same amount of spin as a higher-compression ball if it has the same cover material and technology. That’s why the urethane cover Q-Star Tour is able to produce similar greenside spin to a higher-compression Tour golf ball.

Where a low-compression ball differentiates itself from higher-compression balls is with driver spin. As a general rule, lower-compression golf balls have less driver spin than higher-compression balls because they compress more at impact, resulting in a smaller moment of inertia arm and less torque than a high-compression ball, and therefore less spin.

It seems the Q-Star Tour golf balls are very similar to the Z-Star golf balls in terms of premium materials and construction. What is different about the Q-Star Tour that allows it to sell for $10 less? 

The only real difference with the Q-Star Tour is that it has a lower compression. It’s very similar to the Z-Star golf balls in terms of premium materials and construction. When we analyzed the market and the size of the demographic that would benefit from playing the Q-Star Tour, we realized that we were tapping into one of the largest demographics out there. There are so many golfers who stand to improve their performance by playing this golf ball. Therefore, in determining pricing, our primary objective was to provide excellent value to golfers by offering the Q-Star Tour at a very competitive, aggressive price.

Golfers have different pain points when it comes to how much they’ll spend on a dozen golf balls, so we wanted to ensure that we priced the Q-Star Tour in a comfort zone for a very large segment of golfers. Is the price a market disruption? I suppose it could be looked at that way, especially given the exceptional performance of the Q-Star Tour compared to similarly priced and more expensive golf balls. But for us, what’s most important for our growth is to provide golfers with excellent performance and excellent value at the same time with all our golf balls. We want golfers to play the best ball for their game because that will help them improve, which in turn creates greater enjoyment and more interest in the game. Now, if golfers want to spend $10 more or close to $20 more per dozen on a golf ball because they believe it’s the best option for them, they still can. However, with the Q-Star Tour, now they can spend less and potentially gain better performance for their game than they might from a more expensive, higher-compression ball that wasn’t designed for their swing speed. That’s the objective with the Q-Star Tour – to help golfers with average swing speeds optimize their “full game” performance.

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  1. Primo

    May 26, 2017 at 11:57 am

    Callaway Hex Soft, 4 dozen, $59 @ Costco, nice ball…Callaway Chrome logo overruns @ Golfsmith, or any ball really, sometimes very cheap…bought Chromes, could be first gen, with various logos for $6 a dozen, worth the effort if you can find a Golfsmith. I get ProV corporate balls free, trade them with others though, great ball, just not great for me…

  2. Algorithm22

    May 3, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Played this ball today and love it. I am a senior golfer with a 11 hcp and SS around 95. Drives are usually around 230. Had drives today of 240, 245 and 250. Great feel on both driver and irons. The ball I will now be playing.

  3. retired04

    May 1, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    I’m 70, index 7.2 on white tees-driver swing speed 76-80 depending on how many parts hurt that day. Q star tour? Love the feel, gained 10 yds with driver-BUT this thing stays in the air forever with the wind. No appreciable gain with irons, but Spin it same as Pro V1 around the greens. Have committed to this ball for the year and love it. If you fit the profile, try it-really try it.

  4. Steve S

    May 1, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    I bought 2 dozen 2015 Q stars last year. I gave them all the “balance” test of spinning them in salt water(allows the balls to float in water). 18 out of 24 were out of balance. I did the same test with a dozen titleist and bridgestones and didn’t have one failure. Sent an email to Srixon with my results and they sent a very polite email thanking me for my input. Said that they would notify their quality department and get back to me. Dead silence ever since. Haven’t tried the Kirklands yet, but at $15 a dozen I’m not expecting Titleist results but i’ll bet they’re better than Srixon….

  5. Charles Bartholomew

    May 1, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    I really like this ball. I was lucky to be selected to test it. I received a dozen of these. My initial observations: Has a little firmer feel than what I normally play; Holds line well in flight; While I did not get exceptionally more distance out of it, maybe three yards, I did get an increase. Rolls true when putting; Does not appear to roll as far as my current ball, but I can adjust for this given how true it tracks. This ball is finding its way into bag. Oh yes, and I made two birdies in nine holes using it. I look forward to many good holes of golf with this ball.

  6. Brian

    Apr 30, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Does GolfWRX actually test anything, or are they just defacto advertisement?

    • Travis

      May 1, 2017 at 12:40 am

      You can find enough reviews online to attest to srixon making good golf balls, from your recreational golf peers. Everyone advertises, they basically made a lower compression Z star and are selling it for cheaper. If Toyota came out with a Prius that couldn’t reach the same max speed as a Prius but had all of the same benefits and Had a cost of %75 of the price they would advertise it too. Not to mention everyone buys a Prius for the mpg/price rather than how fast it can go.

  7. Tourgrinder

    Apr 30, 2017 at 11:28 am

    So I read this article. Then I decided to check with PGA Superstore online. Price was $33.99 per dozen. So much for the manufacturer’s suggested retail price. I can only hope the local retail is either $29.99 as promoted, or perhaps lower. You know some kind of funny business is afoot when a retailer is asking for a higher price than manufacturer’s suggested.

  8. Crash Test Dummy

    Apr 30, 2017 at 3:39 am

    The Srixon Z-Star XV is one of my favorite balls. However, the Q-Star wasn’t a great fit for me. I am sure it is a good ball for some. However, I don’t hit it very far and the ball doesn’t launch off the face like the Z-Star XV does. I think the compression is too low for my hit.

  9. #1 Ball for a reason... EVERY SEASON.

    Apr 29, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    I’ve been chipping with it lately and it seems nice but our greens are unusually firm so its bit tough to compare at this time. The cover is definitely soft as advertised (fingernail test) and the compression feels and sounds soft on chips and putts too. So far, I’m impressed.

  10. Sam

    Apr 29, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    There’s only one company that makes golf balls, Titleist

    • Simms

      Apr 30, 2017 at 12:23 am

      Seems D J, among others will disagree with that statement….

    • Harry

      May 1, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      One wonders how many tour players would stop playing Pro V1/V1X if they were not paid to play them. Paid by consumers who pay $5/ball to be like the pros. Yet we know it’s not the ball that makes the shot but the one holding the club.

      • Player

        May 6, 2017 at 8:20 pm

        The real statement is made by players at the US Amateur, Girls Junior, NCAA Championships Mid Am, etc…. TITLEIST DOMINATES those events and no one is getting paid. Probably MORE PGA Tour Pros would play the ProV1 or V1x if there wasn’t money floating around to play Bridgestone, Callaway, Srixon and others.

  11. Rich Douglas

    Apr 29, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    So, it’s the same ball as their tour ball, but with a lower compression. Because of the market for that kind of ball, they sell for $10 less. That means the purchasers of the tour ball are being gouged. Nice.

  12. Pete

    Apr 29, 2017 at 11:23 am

    Bought an interesting ball (2 dozen for $35 on line) called Callaway HEX PRO. my driver speed is in the middle 90’s and this ball seems to fly as far any. It is a 4 piece ball with a urethane cover that stops and even spins back some with my slower swing speed. I tried the new Tour Q-Star and for me it performs the same as the HEX PRO.

    • Ric

      Apr 29, 2017 at 10:51 pm

      Those may be the tour hex ball from 10 years ago ? RE-labeled ? I can’t believe they would design a totally new ball for that price.

      • Simms

        Apr 30, 2017 at 12:26 am

        Ric, you maybe right it maybe an older ball, but I have some of them and they are a very good ball…you know the Kirkland, Costco ball is an older ball also, as is the MC C-4…but the difference is far less then the savings…

  13. H

    Apr 29, 2017 at 11:18 am

    Amazing ball. Great feel too

  14. acemandrake

    Apr 29, 2017 at 10:17 am

    It’s a good ball that is selling at a promotional price of 6 for $10 (limit of 5 6-packs).

    Just like they say: Lower compression ball with a urethane cover for more spin.

    I have a lower swing speed so I guess that the lower compression helps me with launch & distance?

  15. gwillis7

    Apr 29, 2017 at 10:16 am

    Selling these in a 6-ball pack for $10 at Golf Galaxy right now in OH, bought a couple packs (no brainer, 20 bucks for a dozen urethane covered balls). Can’t wait to try them as I really liked the ’16 Q-Stars, but the cover would get beat up pretty easy. Hopefully will stop raining this weekend so I can give them a go!

  16. Desmond

    Apr 29, 2017 at 10:00 am

    Want to try it …

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Presidents Cup WITBs: U.S. Team

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Tiger Woods

Driver: TaylorMade M5 (9 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ White 60 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade M5 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ White 70 TX

5-wood: TaylorMade M3 (19 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ White 80 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P7TW (3-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: TaylorMade MG 2 “Tiger MT Grind” (56-12, 60-10 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 GSS
Grip: Ping PP58 Blackout

Golf Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

Patrick Reed

Driver: Ping G400 LST (9 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 70X

3-wood: Nike VR Pro LTD (15 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila Rogue Silver 125 80TX

Irons: Mizuno MP-18 (3), GrindWorks Patrick Reed “Proto” (4-PW)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: Artisan (50, 60), Titleist Vokey Design SM5 55
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron “Captain America” Proto
Putter Grip: Iomic

Golf Ball: Titleist Pro V1

Grips: Golf Pride MCC

Xander Schauffele

Driver: Callaway Prototype Sub Zero (9 degrees)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD BB 7X

3-wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero (15 degrees)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X

5-wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero (18 degrees)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD DI Black 8X

Irons: Callaway Apex Pro “Raw” (4-PW)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: Callaway Jaws MD5 “Raw” (52), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (56), Titleist Vokey Design BV Proto (60)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Bend hosel

  • 540 weight
  • 15g weights
  • 34 3/8

Putter grip: SS Traxion 2.0 Tour (40g counter)

Golf Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft X

Grips: Golf Pride Z Cord Mid Size

Justin Thomas

Driver: Titleist TS3 (9.5 degrees, B1 setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana ZF 60 TX (44 7/8″)

3-wood: Titleist TS3 (15 degrees, A1 setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 80 TX

5-wood: Titleist 915 Fd (18 Degrees)
Fujikura Motore Speeder VC  9.2 Tour Spec X

Irons: Titleist T100 (4), Titleist 620 MB (5-9)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design Raw SM7 (46-10 @47.5), Titleist Vokey Design Raw SM7 (52-12 @52.5), Titleist Vokey Design Raw SM7 (56-14 @57), Titleist Vokey Design Raw SM7 60T (@60.5)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 Tour Issue (46), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 (52-60)
Length: Std Lie 64.5
Grip: TVC 60RD USD
Swing weight:  D3

Putter: Scotty Cameron X5

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Webb Simpson

Driver: Titleist TS3 (10.5 degrees, A1 setting, Draw CG)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei Blue AV 65 TX (45.25″)

3-wood: Titleist TS2 (15 degrees, A1 setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70 TX

5-wood: Titleist 915 Fd (18 degrees, B1 setting)
Shaft: UST Mamiya VTS 86 TX

Hybrid 1: Titleist 913 Hd (21 degrees) B2 setting
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD DI 105 X

Hybrid 2: Titleist 913 HD (23.5 degrees) C3 setting
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Irons: Titleist 620MB (5-PW)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design Raw SM7 (54-14), Titleist Vokey Design Raw SM5 (60-06K)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

Patrick Cantlay

Driver: Titleist TS3 (10.5 degrees, C1 Setting/Draw CG)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana BF 60 TX

3-wood: Titleist 915F (15 degrees, B1 setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana BF 70 TX

Hybrid: Titleist 816 H2 (21 degrees, B1 setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 90 TX

Irons: Titleist T100 (4-9)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold 120X

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM7 Raw (46-10, 54-10, 56-08, 62-08)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold S300

Length: Std
Loft: 53, 57, 61
Lie: 63 on all
Grip: TV 58RD USD
Swt: D3, D2, D1, C9

Putter: Scotty Cameron

Ball: Titleist Pro V1X

Tony Finau

Driver: Ping G410 (9 degrees @8) Flat setting
Shaft: Accra TZ6 Proto M5 75 (Tip 1”)
D5, 44.75 Inches

3-wood: Ping G400 (14.5 degrees @14.25)
Shaft: Accra Tour Z 4100 (Tip 1.5”)
D3. 42 Inches

Irons

3-iron: Ping iBlade (20 degrees)
Shaft: Nippon Modus 3 120TX
D3

4-PW: Ping Blueprint
Shaft: Nippon Modus 3 120TX
D3

Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (50/SS @51), Titleist Vokey SM7 (56/10S, 60/08M)
Shaft: Nippon Modus 3 125TX

Putter: Piretti Elite “Custom”

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

Matt Kuchar

Driver: Bridgestone Tour B JGR (9.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec 6S

3-wood: TaylorMade M6 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Speeder Evolution 757 X

Hybrids: Bridgestone Tour B XD-H (18 degrees), Ping Anser (20)
Shafts: Fujikura Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X flex

Irons: Bridgestone J15CB (5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 S300 (soft stepped)

Wedges: Bridgestone J40 Forged (52 bent to 51 degrees); Cleveland RTX-4 (58 bent to 57 degrees), TaylorMade HighToe (64 bent to 63 degrees)
Shafts: KBS Tour 120 S

Putter: Bettinardi DASS KM-1 Arm Lock (soft carbon steel, 400 grams, 2.5 degrees loft)

Grip: Lamkin Arm Lock

Ball: Bridgestone Tour B X

Grips: Iomic X-Grip

Gary Woodland

Driver: Ping G410 Plus (9 degrees @8)
Shaft: Accra RPG Tour Z M5

3-wood: Titleist TS2
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD DI 100X

Utility: Wilson Staff (18 degrees)
Shaft: KBS C-Taper 130X

Irons: Wilson Staff Forged Blade 4-PW
Shaft: KBS C-Taper 130X

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM7 (52/12F @53, 58/10/S), TaylorMade Hi-Toe (64)
Shafts: KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125S

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport

Ball: Bridgestone BX

Grips: Golf Pride BCT MidSize

Bryson DeChambeau

Driver: Cobra SpeedZone (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: LA Golf Shafts Tour B.A.D VD3 75TX

3-wood: Cobra King LTD (12.3 degrees)
Shaft: LA Golf Shafts Tour B.A.D 3VD1 75TX

5-wood: Cobra F8+ (17.5 degrees)
Shaft: LA Golf Shafts Tour B.A.D VD1 85-TX

Irons: Cobra King Utility (4, 5), Cobra King Forged (6-PW)
Shafts: LA Golf Shafts B.A.D Prototype Rebar

Wedges: Cobra King Tour Raw (50, 56, 60)
Shafts: LA Golf Shafts B.A.D Prototype Rebar

Putter: Sik C-Series

Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS

Grips: Jumbo Max

Rickie Fowler

Driver: Cobra SpeedZone (10.5 degrees set at 9.5)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 70X 43 inches

3-4 wood: Cobra King F8+ (14.5 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila Synergy 70 X 42 inches

Utility: Cobra F9 Speedback (4, 20 degrees)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ Proto

Irons: Cobra “RF Proto” Forged (4-PW)
Shafts: KBS C-Taper 125 S+

Wedges: Cobra King V-Grind Prototypes (52-10B, 54-10F bent to 56, 60F)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron Circle T Newport 2 Proto
Grip: Standard Scotty Cameron Pistol

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Align “Rickie Custom”

Golf ball: 2019 TaylorMade TP5x (No. 15) Pix USA

Dustin Johnson

Driver: TaylorMade M5 (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Speeder 661 X Tour Spec 2.0

3-wood: TaylorMade M5 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Black 6.5 X

Irons: TaylorMade P790 (3-iron), TaylorMade P730 DJ Proto (4-PW)
Shafts: Project X HZRDUS Black 6.5 X (P790), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 Black (52, 60 degrees), TaylorMade MG Hi-Toe (64 degrees)
Shafts: KBS Tour 120S

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour Black
Grip: SuperStroke Pistol GT 1.0

Ball: 2019 TaylorMade TP5x (No. 1) PIX “USA”

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Best players/cavity back irons with a thin top line?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from That’s two thus far Shooter who is on the hunt for players or even game improvement irons which “do the best job of mimicking blades with the sleek top line, minimal to no offset, and best feel possible out of a hollow or cavity construction”. Our members share their thoughts.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • bodhi555: “If I was after a player’s CB first one is be trying was the 620 CB, was checking out a set a couple of weeks ago and they look remarkably blade-like at address. More offset than I liked in the long irons, but a very attractive looking club.”
  • Valtiel: “If you’re willing to go older/used, the Bridgestone J40 CBs have one of the thinnest top lines I have seen on a CB. They are also legendarily soft feeling.”
  • leftylama: “Two cheap options would be Nike Vapor Pro Combo (hard to find a good set now though) or the Wilson FG V6.”
  • BogeyB54: “JPX 919 forged look great behind the ball, so do the HMBs.”
  • gibbyfan: “Miura 1007, if you are looking. Longer heal to toe than the MB. Thinner sole than the modern Miura irons. Head shape not as large as the 57s, possibly less offset.”

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Optimal bag setup for a high handicapper?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from rkillian who has opened up a discussion on the optimal bag setup for high handicappers. Here’s a look at rkillian’s current set-up: 

“Driver 9 degree head turned up to 2 to 11 degrees. I get my most consistent ball flight and distance from this setting. The 9 gave me the best numbers that day in the store but up 2 degrees works much better for me on the course – Total average is about 270 set like this”

“HL 3 Wood at 16.5 Degrees – total average is 235 off the tee, but I have hit some into the 250s. But I can’t hit it off the deck whatsoever. I get lucky sometimes when I try and hit it off a mat at the range but never off actual turf.

3 Hybrid 19 degrees – a well-struck shot will go nearly that same distance as my 3 wood maybe 220. But a well-struck shot with this club is the anomaly here.

4 Hybrid 22 degrees – I can hit this club pretty consistently 200 yards plus if I don’t chunk it and up to 220 total or more on the right hole from a tee.

5i-PW at 45 Degrees – I don’t hit my 5 iron consistently, but I am “ok” with my irons. My 8 iron is my 150-yard club when well struck.

Gw at 52 – This almost never gets used. It is about a 110-yard full swing, and I have found that I am never really at that yardage.

Sw at 56 – about 90-95 yards on a full swing but it can balloon on my and fall short. I am finding I don’t use it on full swings often though. Pretty much use it 80 yards and in.

and of course the 3-putt machine.”

Our members have been sharing their thoughts in our forums, with a range of interesting ideas suggested.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • jvincent: “You don’t talk about how long the various clubs are or what shafts are in them, so this is somewhat a guess based on what you have said above. Definitely drop the 3W in favour of a 4W or 5W. Since it looks like the driver is working for you, try to get the same model of shaft, but in a heavier version. Make sure that the length of the fairway wood you end up with is no longer than 42.5″. I’d recommend 42″. You don’t say if the current hybrids are the same brand or not, but if not, try to get a 3 that matches your 4. Again, shaft weight and length are important. A long hybrid that you can’t hit aren’t any good to you. I’d keep the 5i. I would add back the 52* wedge. At your skill level, not having to manufacture a partial swing is going to be better in the long run. Again, if it doesn’t match your irons at least try to get the same shaft weight and make sure it is the correct length.”
  • ChipNRun: “Two main observations: FW Shaft. Your 3W/HL may have a common problem with TaylorMade FWs: the shaft is too long. The 3W/HL has the same shaft length as a 3W, not a 4W. If you trimmed shaft back to 42.5″, this might help get you the better control of a 4W. (assuming swing weight does not get too light – you could have fitter tip-weight it if it feels too feathery.) Work with a fitter to see if a shorter shaft might help. Lessons!! Since you shoot about 96, you need to tweak your golf swing before you tweak your bag mix. Get a swing tune-up lesson, and see if the pro can figure out adjustments you can make to hit the ball better. A lesson or two can take you farther in a month than you can get on your own in a full season. It appears you are stuck in the mud: find a pro who can help pull you out. Then, practice what the pro tells you – and play some holes if weather permits – before your next lesson.”
  • mkuether: “Very interesting topic! Like many others who have already posted, I think we have a lot in common. My distances are very similar to yours, and your scores are similar to where I was about ten years ago. I also struggled with my longer irons, hybrids, and especially fairway woods. The good news is that I was able to find a set that worked for me and improve significantly. I am sure you can do the same. First, the #1 thing that has helped me has been to simply get clubs I was comfortable with. It took me a while to find a hybrid that really suited me, but once I did, it made a huge difference in my confidence. I ended up dropping my 5-wood entirely because I was just never confident with it, but a 19-degree hybrid was much better (for me). I also stopped trying to hit a 3-wood off the deck (I was terrible at it) and reserved it for the occasional shot off the tee where I felt driver was too much. My 3-wood doesn’t get a lot of use since in my case I’m simply more confident with my 460cc driver, and I can usually throttle back and hit that shorter when needed. Anyway, I’m not sure why I’m so much more confident with my hybrids now (who knows, maybe they just suit my eye), but the confidence really helps. I also avoid playing clubs with longer than average shafts (e.g. my driver is 44.5″) and I find that really helps my confidence and consistency. If you’re already having trouble with fairway woods, longer shafts are only going to make it worse. I would also try and learn to hit your shorter irons as distance clubs on full swings, that has helped me a lot too. Knowing that I have a consistent, full-swing shot that I can hit a consistent distance (or pretty close) down to about 80 yards has definitely helped my scores. You seem to play an incredibly short course for your overall distance so I can’t imagine that you’re getting that much use out of your longer clubs anyway. Just curious, do you enjoy playing a course that short? I find it more fun to play a slightly longer course where I have a variety of shorts in the greens, seems like you would be hitting driver/wedge on every hole unless you’re teeing off with shorter clubs on purpose. In any case, a golfer of your skill level (or mine) is going to be missing the green on most approaches with a wood or hybrid, so it probably makes more sense to work on optimizing the bottom half of your bag since you’ll need to get up and down a lot. Anyway, good luck improving. I’m sure a little experimentation with different clubs will go a long way towards feeling more confident and playing better.”
  • CapnSwagga: “I don’t write much here I’m not a writer its easy to have something profound to say but to be able to eloquently write it I have not these skills, but I’ll try to make my point, I myself played the same game constantly trapped in trying to figure out what equipment was for me. A close friend and golf professional helped me tremendously after a few rounds, and it wasn’t any advice on my swing or what my equipment should be it was simply: stop. Stop thinking, stop worrying, stop analyzing (although it is very important to analyze post swing). We get a wrapped up in the idea of what’s supposed to be right or work or what we see on TV and in reality the one simple principle “hit the ball” gets shrouded over. People will go on and on who makes the best clubs or ball or what shaft is going to work the best for you, but any golfer could pick up any piece of crap and knock it out there…off grass, turf, mats, tees or even a strippers **** it’s the confidence to do what is required without any additional thought. I don’t disagree with suggestions others made above and gapping your bag is also very vital, so I’m sorry if my comment goes slightly off your topic I think having a solid practice regime and dedication are truly the tools to become better at golf. Thanks for the read.”

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