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Arccos: The real time shot-tracking system for your phone

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Professional golfers have all kinds of systems and tools for tracking their performance so they can identify their strengths and weaknesses and work on improvements. For the amateur golfer, there really was no such tool a few months ago. First came Game Golf’s introduction of a shot-tracking system, and it appears that there could be several companies competing for market share in that space.

One newcomer is Arccos, a Stamford, Connecticut-based company founded in 2012 that created a GPS golf shot tracking system that automatically tracks your round and gives real-time feedback as you make your way around the course.

[quote_box_center]“If you want to get better, you need to know what to work on to improve,” said Sal Syed, who co-founded the company with friend Ammad Faisal. “Arccos is revealing your game to you, so you can see what to do to refine your game. If you just love golf, now you can track all your rounds in one place, share your stats and connect to other golfers: all without having to do anything differently.”[/quote_box_center]

While tracking golf stats is certainly not a new thing, having the ability to do it instantly and automatically is something that up to now wasn’t possible. That’s what makes Arccos unique; its real-time tracking system enables golfers to get immediate data and feedback right out on the course.

[quote_box_center]”Arccos is also the only system that is fully automatic; no need for additional devices or additional actions,” said Syed. “Once the sensors are on your clubs, all you need to do is swing and Arccos will track everything automatically. And with our Tour Analytics platform, everything that is tracked is also analyzed, giving meaning to each part of your game.”[/quote_box_center]

Here’s how it works.

Arccos consists of a set of 14 intelligent sensors that attach to the grip-end of your club. A player pairs the sensors once with their iPhone so that Arccos knows which sensor is attached to which club. After that, when a shot is taken, Arccos automatically detects when you hit a shot while also intelligently filtering out practice swings.

When the sensor detects that you have taken a shot, it sends a Bluetooth message to the iPhone telling it what club was hit allowing the iPhone to record the location of each shot hit. Arccos calculates the distance of the shot by comparing where a player teed off to where they took the next shot.

[quote_box_center]“Arccos both tracks your stats and analyzes them, making sure you have the numbers you want to see with the context to understand what they mean for your game,” Syed said. “Arccos gives you data in real time as you play. We also give you deep analysis post round.”[/quote_box_center]

Starting with standard stats like GIRs, fairways hit, putts per hole, Arccos then goes deeper using the company’s proprietary tour analytics platform to break down each aspect of your game (driving, approach, chipping, sand game, putting) by handicap and then quantifies your strengths and weaknesses. For example, a 10-handicap golfer might drive like a 15-handicapper while putting like a 2-handicapper, Syed said. Arccos enables golfers to identify their top improvement priorities.

The original technology for Arccos was born in Callaway Research and Development. Syed had met Alan Hocknell, Callaway’s senior vice president of research and development, at the Yale Golf Summit at Bandon Dunes earlier in 2012 and the two developed a friendship. Late in 2012, when the opportunity arose to license the shot-tracking technology developed by Callaway and take it to the market, Syed and Faisal, seeing a much-desired opportunity to work in the golf industry, jumped right in.

Across the board, the demand for golf apps and software is booming.

[quote_box_center]“It is definitely a growing market,” Faisal said. “This tells us there is real demand for golf tracking systems and that the golfer community is ready to welcome technology into the game. We’re excited about this as we know this is just the beginning for golf technology to truly enhance the game we all love.”[/quote_box_center]

Arccos is currently available for pre-order for $299 for iPhone, but Android and Windows Phone versions are on the way. The units are expected to ship in the late summer.

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John Lahtinen is a Connecticut-based writer with nearly 20 years of experience involving news, media, communications, higher education, PR and marketing. He has been playing golf forever and is still finding unique ways to ruin a good round. Adding to his confusion, he plays both right- and left-handed.

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  1. Ken ROBBINS

    Oct 29, 2015 at 7:27 am

    the largest problem is keeping the sensors tight. I try not to grip on them but I’m constantly tightening them. I think the holes in my new grips may be larger then normal. How can I tighten them up?

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    Mar 31, 2015 at 1:07 pm

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  3. Chan

    Jul 29, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    It’s funny that callaway is pulling out of upro gps(web support) at the end of 2014 in order to focus on the clubs and balls(says on upro website), but involved in this kind of business again. Make up your mind callaway and show some respect for your current customers. It’s very disappointing.

  4. jarod

    Jul 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    I don’t know if this has been answered but what about the situation with penalty shot? How do you count this as shot taken?

    • Arccos Customer Service

      Jul 14, 2014 at 5:12 pm

      There isn’t any way for the sensors to know that you’ve made a penalty, so penalty shots must be manually entered. We’ve done our best to make it as simple and painless as possible.

  5. myron miller

    Jul 9, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    From what I’ve read, instantaneous feedback on club usage is not legal according to the USGA. That would make this illegal for any GHIN posting or any event at all. Maybe for only practice rounds but other than that, technically it can’t be used.

    Or is there something about this I’m missing?

    • Arccos Customer Service

      Jul 9, 2014 at 4:27 pm

      We are working directly with the USGA and seeking a ruling that our product conforms to the rules of golf. When any such ruling is issued we will let everyone know.

    • Brian Dowling

      Jul 11, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      Yeah, there’s no way they are getting USGA approval and for this reason I’m going to invest in the GAME GOLF system. Their tags are as light a paper clips so I’m not putting a ‘computer’ on the end of my clubs because there is no way it won’t affect the weight of my clubs, we’re talking 12 grams here. Like the concept but this is a major flaw and must be a huge concern for the makers

  6. Mat

    Jul 9, 2014 at 11:14 am

    How much do the sensors weigh? This adjusts swing weight, so it would be helpful to know by how much.

    • John Lahtinen

      Jul 9, 2014 at 11:28 am

      Hi Mat. Great question. Arccos says the sensors weigh less than 12 grams and that they have no impact on the golf swing.

      • DC

        Jul 9, 2014 at 12:27 pm

        Standard conversions used by many clubmakers on this site – including Joe Kwok – state that adding 5 g in the grip alters your SW by 1 point.

        So adding 12 g would alter it by almost 2.5 SW points.

        Hold a 10g Tour Lock weight in your hand – hard to argue that putting that in the butt end of every club would have absolutely no impact.

        • Arccos Customer Service

          Jul 9, 2014 at 4:05 pm

          It’s not our intent to create a debate about swingweight — it’s been discussed here in great detail in the past, as in this thread (http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/820731-how-is-counterbalancing-irons-really-affecting-swingweight/) and different people will have different opinions.

          I will say that personally, it had very little effect on the feel of my clubs, and I got used to it almost immediately. That is also the feedback we’ve received from all levels of players, from tour pros to novices.

          In all of the feedback we’ve gotten from extensive testing of the product, change in swingweight has essentially been a non-issue.

          We offer a 30-day unconditional guarantee on our product. If you order a set and find that you don’t like the way they feel, you can send them back to us for a full refund.

          • DC

            Jul 10, 2014 at 10:20 am

            Sorry I was just trying to answer Mat’s question. He asked how much it would change the SW and the answers were that it wont have an impact and dont worry, its a non-issue.

            Its fine to say you don’t think its affected your feel or you think the change in SW will be a non issue for people. Those are qualitative measures and are subject to opinion. Which I agree, this is not meant to be a debate on.

            But adding 12g of weight to the grip of the club *does* change the SW – and that was Mat’s original question. Adding 12g of weight to a grip changes the SW of the club. How noticeable it is or isnt can be debated elsewhere.

  7. Nagar

    Jul 9, 2014 at 8:19 am

    In Australia during competition rounds you are not allowed to have a cell phone/mobile device turned on at all.

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  9. bombonera

    Jul 9, 2014 at 4:51 am

    will this device be making its way to japan anytime soon??

    • Arccos Customer Service

      Jul 9, 2014 at 10:06 am

      Our current focus is the North American market. We plan to eventually sell everywhere and cover all courses in the world, but we do not have an official timetable at this time for when we will be in specific countries. When we launch international sales, we will definitely do our best to let the world know.

  10. Erik

    Jul 9, 2014 at 4:16 am

    The “Swing by swing” app uses nfc tags which are WAY cheaper.

  11. Bob

    Jul 8, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    Sounds good in theory. However, battery life, having to worry about where or if the connection is working, the so so GPS tracking and the expensive price tag no thanks another poc to waste $ on. Not to mention I’m not wearing my phone when I play. Spend the $ on extra lessons or extra rounds of golf. Not worth my time or money.

  12. Arccos Customer Service

    Jul 8, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    To answer a few questions:

    Yes, the iPhone does need to be on your person. It takes GPS readings at the time you hit your shot. If the phone is too far away, it is not going to give you an accurate location reading, plus beyond a certain distance the bluetooth connection to the club sensors might not work. Having the iPhone in your pocket (or in your golf bag if you’re walking, or clipped to your belt or something) works perfectly.

    Battery life should be approximately 50 rounds. They are standard batteries that are easily purchased at retail.

    You do not need a cellular signal at the course to use the device. You can set everything up when you do have a signal and then bring your phone to the course ready to play. (GPS signals and cellular data signals are different. Even if you don’t have a cellular signal, the GPS on the phone should work.)

    The system is completely seamless. No tapping. Just pull a club from your bag, hit the ball, and the system will know what club you hit and where/when you hit it.

    • ca1879

      Jul 8, 2014 at 5:22 pm

      You’ve addressed all of the issues I had with the Game Golf system. You can count on a Windows Phone version sale as soon as you release it.

    • Philip

      Jul 8, 2014 at 10:59 pm

      On my golf course we have to use a golf cart. Did you test whether the adapter will handle the extra abuse of bouncing around in a bag on a golf cart?

    • Philip

      Jul 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm

      I checked your website and it just says a standard battery, can you just state the battery they use?
      50 rounds is barely a season of 5 months.

    • Paul

      Jul 8, 2014 at 11:21 pm

      Does the iphone need to be unlocked whilst you’re playing your round?
      or can it remain locked and using virtually no battery?

      my iphone only lasts about 9 holes if i run a gps program on it, if it’s locked it lasts much longer

      • Arccos Customer Service

        Jul 14, 2014 at 5:07 pm

        I have played a round where I left my phone locked in my pocket for the full 18 holes and never looked at the screen once and it works just fine.

        I find that I like to open up the app and check things out every so often to make any necessary edits during my round rather than after. Things like adding a penalty shot if I hit into a hazard, etc.

        But yes, you can leave your phone dark during your round and the system keeps working in the background. You just need to open the app and tap a button to start your round on the first tee. You can leave it in your pocket and ignore it after that.

        I have a 3 year old 4s that works just fine. I can play a full 18 hole round with charge to spare.

    • DJ

      Jul 9, 2014 at 2:03 am

      I’d like to know the range of your LE Bluetooth signal. There are many courses that have holes and bunkers a good distance from where you park your cart and areas with no cart access. What is the max range between your sensor and Iphone? I read that typical BLE range is around 100 feet. I hope that’s not the case because I’d hate to have to remember to not only grab the right club or clubs, but my phone too. Thank for any info you can provide.

      • DJ

        Jul 14, 2014 at 11:58 am

        Radio silence! Way to take care of your most important and influential customer’s questions! Glad to know I’ll be using my $300 for anything other than this!

        • Arccos Customer Service

          Jul 14, 2014 at 5:03 pm

          Sorry for the slow response. The range of the bluetooth transmitter is relatively immaterial in that you need to have the iPhone on your person to get accurate GPS readings.

          The Arccos system utilizes the GPS functionality of the iPhone to record location data. The Arccos sensors themselves are not GPS enabled. So if you left your iPhone in your cart and walked 20 yards to where your ball is and then took a shot, Arccos would record a shot taken at the location of your phone/cart.

          Accurate use of the Arccos system requires that your iPhone be on your person. It can be in your pocket or clipped to your belt. If you walk and carry your bag, you could leave it in your golf bag.

          • DJ

            Jul 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm

            I truly appreciate your response. We may be small, but we are loud. Best of luck with your business!

  13. Jamie

    Jul 8, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    …and if you use grip weights you can forget about using this product, too.

  14. DC

    Jul 8, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    1 – Did I read an earlier review correctly that you have to keep your phone in your pocket for this to work? iPhones may be different but I definitely cant see playing with the Galaxy S5 in my pocket the entire round.

    2 – How often – after how many rounds – are the batteries in these sensors going to need to be replaced and how much is each one? Are these generic $5 watch type batteries or are they more specialized?

  15. Mike Howard

    Jul 8, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    My brother-in-law is a VP of this company so I can offer some answers:

    1. Yes, it does use the GPS on your phone.
    2. An Android version is coming, the lack of reliable Bluetooth LE drivers is an issue there.
    3. Sorry, but I doubt we’ll ever see a Windows Phone version. However, it will work with an iPod touch 5 with some caveats. (I am also a WP user, but my daughter has the iPod touch 5 so I just use that.)

    • J.U.

      Jul 10, 2014 at 10:48 pm

      Why do you doubt a windows phone version will ever be developed? The website and copy above say a windows version is in the works. Would hate to know that the company is telling lies even before a product reaches the market.

  16. Isaac

    Jul 8, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    Does it track the distances itself or does it use gps from my iphone? I do not have reliable service at a few of the courses where I play, if it takes signal it may not be for me.

  17. rgb

    Jul 8, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    1. Thank god one doesn’t have to tap the club before swinging. Game Golf is a PITA.

    2. Get a Windows Phone version then call me.

  18. Joel

    Jul 8, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    I was a little excited until I read that they don’t have an android version yet.

    • Bryan

      Jul 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm

      Would you be willing to get on here again when the android version is released? I’d love to have this once available in android.

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A Deep Dive: The equipment timeline of David Duval, 1993-2001

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Like Tiger, David Toms, and Fred Couples there are certain players that I have been obsessed with for years. If you go to my Instagram, you can see it in plain sight. When it comes to DD it was more than the what, it was the why, the how that sparked my curiosity. Let’s face it, in 2000 with the Mossimo gear, Oakley shades, jacked-up physique, and on Titleist staff, was there ever a cooler looking player?

No. There wasn’t or isn’t.

That’s where my interest in Larry Bobka came about. I saw David and Larry walking the fairways of Sahalee at the ’98 PGA Championship.

At the time, I was already knee-deep in David Duval fandom but that experience took me over the top. Bobka had a handful of clubs in his hands and would pass DD a 970 3-wood, Duval would give it a rip and the two would discuss while walking down the fairway. Of all my time watching live golf, I have never been so awestruck.

This is an homage to David’s equipment during his prime/healthy years on the PGA Tour. From his early days with Mizuno, into the Titleist days, and finally Nike.

1993-1995 Mizuno

*This was an interesting time for Duval from an equipment standpoint. The pattern of mixing sets to put together his bag began and it was the time he transitioned from persimmon (Wood Bros driver) into metal woods. It was also the beginning of his long relationship with Scotty Cameron, a relationship that still stands today.

What was in the bag

Driver: TaylorMade Tour Burner 8.5 w/ Dynamic Gold X100 (*he also played with the Bubble XHKP Prototype)

3-wood

King Cobra @14 w/ Dynamic Gold X100

TaylorMade Tour Issue Spoon @13  w/ Dynamic Gold X100

Irons

1993: (1) Ping Eye2, (3-PW) Mizuno Pro TN-87 with Dynamic Gold X100

1994: (1) Ping Eye2, (3-PW) Mizuno Pro TN-87 with Dynamic Gold X100

1995: (2,3) Mizuno TC-29, (4-PW) Mizuno TN-87 with Dynamic Gold X100

Wedges: Mizuno Pro (53, 58) with Dynamic Gold X100

Putter: Scotty Cameron Classic Newport (35 inches, 71 lie, 4 degrees of loft)

Ball: Titleist Tour Balata 100

Glove: Mizuno Pro

1996-2000 Titleist

The beginning of the Titleist years started off quietly. There wasn’t any new product launched and David wasn’t quite the star he would become 12-18 months later. However, it gave Titleist the opportunity to get to know DD and his overall preferences, which aren’t dramatic but certainly unique. He didn’t win in 1996 but did qualify for the Presidents Cup Team and finished that event off at 4-0. So the buzz was going in the right direction and his peers certainly took notice.

It was 1997 that things took off on all fronts and it was the year that Titleist made David Duval the face of the DCI brand and with that decision spawned the greatest cast players cavity ever: the 962B—and also equipped David Duval to go on a 3-year run that was surpassed by only Tiger Woods.

Hence the deep dive article I wrote up earlier this month

What was in the bag

Driver

1996

TaylorMade Bubble Tour 8.5 w/ Bubble XHKP Prototype

1997

TaylorMade Bubble Tour 8.5 w/ Bubble XHKP Prototype

King Cobra Deep Face 9 w/ Dynamic Gold X100

Callaway Warbird Great Big Bertha 6.5 w/ Dynamic Gold X100, True Temper EI70 Tour X

Titleist 975D 6.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ Fujikura Prototype X

1998

Callaway Warbird Great Big Bertha 6.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Titleist 975D 6.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

1999: Titleist 975D 6.5 (no line heavier head weight) @ 7.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

2000: Titleist 975D 7.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

3-wood

1996

King Cobra @14 w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

1997 

King Cobra @14 w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

1998

Callaway S2H2 (1 Dot) @14 w/ Fujikura Vista Pro 90X


Callaway Steelhead 3+ @13 w/ RCH 90 Pro Series Strong

Titleist 970 (Dark Grey Head) @13 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X (only tested this one)

1999

Callaway S2H2 (1 Dot) @14 w/ Fujikura Vista Pro 90X

Cobra Gravity Back 14.5T w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Irons

1996

(2-PW) Titleist DD Blank Prototype w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (w/sensicore)

(2-PW) Titleist DCI Black “B” w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (w/sensicore)

*This prototype set was a blank set of the DCI Black “B” but with sole modifications. 

1997, 1998, 1999, 2000: (2,3) Titleist DCI Black (4-PW) Titleist DCI 962B w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (with sensicore)

*David liked the original prototype version of DG Sensicore X100 that had weight removed from the center of shaft to create better feel and a slightly higher trajectory

24 Feb 2000: David Duval watches the ball after hitting it during the World Match-Play Championships at the La Costa Resort & Spa in Carlsbad, California. Mandatory Credit: Harry How /Allsport

Wedges

1996: (52 @53, 58) Mizuno Pro, (56 @57) Cleveland 588 RTG w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

1997: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 RTG, (58) Titleist Bobka Grind, (57 @58) Cobra Trusty Rusty w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

1998: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 RTGw/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

1999: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 RTG w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

2000: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 “Gun Metal” w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

PUTTER

1996: Scotty Cameron Classic Newport 1 35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft, Scotty Cameron Long Slant Neck Laguna Custom (double welded neck)

1997: Odyssey Dual Force Rossie 2, Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport “Beached”  35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft w/ PingMan “Blacked Out” Grip

1998, 1999, 2000: Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport “Beached”  35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft w/ PingMan “Blacked Out” Grip

2001: Nike Golf and The Open Championship

The relationship with Titleist Golf ended quickly and when David showed up to Kapalua with a non-Titleist stand bag the rumor mill went nuts. The story (although super speculative) was that David opted out in the middle of a $4.5 million per year deal with Acushnet, a lawsuit followed, but Davids’s stance was that he had a marquee player clause that allowed him to walk if he wasn’t “marquee” aka highest-paid.

Apparently he had a point, Acushnet had recently inked big deals with Davis Love and Phil Mickelson leading someone on the outside to do the math. However, I’m not an attorney, wasn’t there, and have no clue what the legality of any of it was. Point is, he walked and landed at Nike with a new head-to-toe contract. 

 

DRIVER:

Titleist 975D 7.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Titleist 975Z Prototype 7.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Nike Titanium w/ True Temper EI-70 II Tour X (pictured below)

Nike Titanium Prototype 7.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X (featured image)

3 WOOD:

Callaway Steelhead Plus 4+ @15 w/ RCH 90 Pro Series Strong

Nike Prototype @14 degrees w/ True Temper EI-70 Tour X

Sonartec/Excedo (SS-03 head) Driving Cavity @14 w/ Fujikura Vista Pro 90X

IRONS:

(2-PW) Titleist 990B w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100  (with sensicore)

(2-PW) Nike Prototype “DD” Grind MB w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (with sensicore)

(2) Titleist DCI Black w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100  (with sensicore)

 

WEDGES: 

(53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 “Gun Metal” w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

(53,58) Nike DD Grind w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

PUTTER: Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport “Beached”  35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft w/ PingMan “Blacked Out” Grip

SPEC TALK

Over the years the one constant was David’s iron and wedge specs. As a shut-faced player he has always favored traditional lofts in his irons. However, a cool thing to note is his lie angles remained constant 59.5 (2-4), 60 (5-9). The running theory here was being a shallow (low hands) and shut faced player, keeping the lie angles at a constant (flatter) lie angle allowed him to feel like his angle of attack could remain the same for each iron. It’s just a feeling but that’s what he did. If the “why of it” is true, it looks like he was doing Bryson things before Bryson did.

David Duval Iron/Wedge Specs

Loft/Lie/Length/SW

  • 2-17/59.5/40.25/D5
  • 3-20.5/59.5/39 1/6/D4
  • 4-24/59.5/38 9/16/D4
  • 5-27/60/38 1/16/D4
  • 6-30.5/60/ 37 9/16/D4
  • 7-35/60/37 1/16/D4
  • 8-39/60/36 9/16/D4
  • 9-43/60/36 5/16/D4
  • P-47/61/36/ 1/16/D5
  • GW-53/62/35 5/8/D4
  • LW-58/62/35 9/16/D6

Whew…since this prolific run, David transitioned into some interesting projects with smaller companies like Scratch, B.I.G Golf (AKA Bio-engineered in Germany), back to the mainstream with Nike, and most currently Cobra Golf.

I hope you all enjoyed this walk down memory lane with me, Duval is not only fascinating from a career standpoint but digging into the equipment of DD has been quite the experience.

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“Why can’t I hit my new irons to a consistent distance?” – GolfWRXers have their say

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In our forums, our members have been discussing irons and how to hit your numbers consistently. WRXer ‘Hubb1e’, who is a 15 handicap, is having issues and says:

“I recently upgraded from 20 year old Taylor Made 360 irons to a set of custom-built Callaway Apex 19 Forged irons. Old irons were traditional cavity back. New irons are categorized as players distance irons. Both have the same fit.

My new 3 iron will go 230 yards or 130 yards and not even make it far enough to reach the fairway. My new 7 iron will typically go 160 yards but will often will fly 175 yards or drop out of the air at 120 yards. I can’t control the distances of my new irons, and I spent a fortune custom fitting them to my swing. Why is this happening? This was never an issue with my old irons. A bad hit would go 10-20% shorter, but I never had balls fly over the green or completely fall out of the air. What is going on with my new equipment?”

Our members offer up their solutions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • ThreeBoxers: “Strike quality is your answer. Tech or no tech, irons will not have 50-yard distance discrepancies. Not super familiar with the Apex irons, but they’re pretty forgiving no? You might lose 10 yards on toe or heel strikes but 40, 50? You’re probably hitting it heavy. If they have a beveled edge, it may mask the feeling of hitting it fat a bit, but not the result. My Mizunos have a pretty aggressive front edge grind which helps a ton on heavy shots. It’s the difference between landing 15 yards short and 50 yards short. +1 on using foot spray to check impact.”
  • extrastiff: “It also would not hurt to check your swing speed. Even strike being terrible that’s a large discrepancy. Maybe your last build had a weight that helped you get consistent swing speed.”
  • WristySwing: “I would say inconsistent strike is the biggest issue. Now that can mean a couple of things. It could mean you, as in the person swinging, are not hitting the ball properly because of inconsistent delivery. The other option is the fit is bad, and it is causing you to be extremely inconsistent because you cannot feel the head. It might be a little bit of column A and column B. However, I would lean more towards column A in this scenario because even a horrifically misfit set someone could get used to it eventually and not have 100 yards of discrepancy in carry shot to shot. I’ve seen people who are playing 50g ladies flex irons with fat wide soles who are very shallow and swing a 6i 92mph still not have 100 yards of carry flux with their sets. If your miss is toe-side 9/10x that is because you are coming too far from the inside. When you get too stuck on the inside you typically stall and throw your arms at it. When you break your wrists (flip)/throw your arms at it you get a very inconsistent low point average that often manifests in extremely fat or thin strikes….typically fat since your squat and rotate is out of sync with your release. As others have said, get some impact tape/foot powder spray and see where you are actually making contact. Then if you can get on a video lesson and see what the issue is. As of right now, we can all only assume what is going on. If your low point control is good, you don’t get stuck, and you are hitting it in the middle of the head — then fit comes into question.”
  • larryd3: “I”d be on the phone to my fitter and setting up a time to go back in and see what’s going on with the irons. You shouldn’t be getting those types of results with a properly fit set of irons. When I got my fitting earlier this year at TrueSpec, the fitter, after watching me hit a bunch with my current irons, focused on increasing the spin on my irons, not on distance but on consistency. So far, they seem to be working well when I put a decent swing on them.”
  • fastnhappy: “One possibility that wouldn’t necessarily show up indoors is sole design and turf interaction. You may have a real problem with the newer clubs because of a sole design that doesn’t work for your swing. That’s hard to tell when hitting inside off a mat. If so, you’d see major distance inconsistency because of strike. The feedback I’ve seen on the players distance irons is exactly what you’re describing… difficult to control distance.”

Entire Thread: “Why can’t I hit my new irons to a consistent distance?”

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What GolfWRXers are saying about their favorite watch for golf

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In our forums, our members have been discussing their favorite watches for golf. WRXer ‘Sourpuss’ asks fellow members: “Dealer’s choice, cost is of no concern. What would you wear if you could afford it? Top 5 of your choice?” and WRXers have been weighing in with their choices in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • sheppy335: “Garmin S40. Love the feel and look.”
  • golfkrzy10: “Apple iWatch with the hole 19 app. Yardage, score, fway, and putts. Perfect for my minimalist walking views on the golf course.”
  • jcboiler: “Second the Apple Watch. Need to look into the apps though.”
  • Deadsquiggles: “If it didn’t bother me to play with a heavy watch, I’d wear my Deep Blue NATO Diver Automatic. But instead, I wear my cheap GShock.”
  • Golfjack: “I thought I was going to come in with a witty comment about my expensive watch, but looks like I’m late! Anyway, I wear my Galaxy Active 2 normally now. Used the Golf Caddie app for a few times. It worked well enough, but I don’t see it helping too much. Still prefer using apps on the phone if I need GPS info. Otherwise, I just use my rangefinder.”

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