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Hole More Putts aims to bring putting analysis to more golfers

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What exactly is Hole More Putts, and how can it help you to do just that… hole more putts?

Well, in short, Hole More Putts is a tool that measures a golfer’s face angle, impact point, speed, path, and angle of attack with the putter and provides recommendations on how to improve his/her stroke.

We spoke with Robert Slade-Baker, Product and Marketing Director for the company.

GolfWRX: Where does Hole More Putts fit in the ecosystem of existing putt analysis tools and software?

Slade-Baker: I would like to start off by pointing out that I will never try and discredit another product. There are a lot of great products out in the market with some fantastic data.

When we started with HMP (Hole More Putts) we were purely focused at the “golfer.” We wanted to provide the golfer with a meaningful tool, that would provide all the relevant feedback that a golfer needs in a manner which is usable. A lot of tools out there focus on data, data, data and forget that everybody that uses the equipment is not necessarily a highly qualified golf professional.

We also wanted to create a “complete-solution” that was not just providing data, but also providing a meaningful diagnosis and analysis of that data, followed by practical video tips and drills to focus on the areas identified through the analysis. Through many years of research, looking at lots of systems out there, we looked at all systems, asked hundreds of people what the perceived faults were with systems and then tried to improve on those. The reality is from a “golfer” perspective, Quintic and SAM Puttlab don’t even come in to the equation, they start at $5k+. So consequently consumers have never really had access to good/relevant putting data at a reasonable price.

GolfWRX: Who is the product aimed at?

Slade-Baker: We believe we have four key markets.

Golfer: The ‘Active Improver’ this is at all handicap levels, whether you are a beginner trying to just understand the dynamics of putting or looking for some marginal gains as an elite player, this product will work well at all levels. Each type of player can take out from the system what they need to improve, whether they want to identify faults in the putting stroke or use it as an effective putting practice tool.

Teaching Professionals: After our first visit to the PGA Show in 2017 and then subsequently in 2018, we were absolutely astonished with the feedback and interest received from golf professionals towards our product(s), the ‘Putting Lesson’ market is desperate for access to relevant putting data at an affordable price, which we provide at a fraction compared to the more expensive systems out there. What’s more when designing our product we listened to both golfers and professionals and asked what they wanted from a system. Hence our unit is completely portable and wireless, usable indoors and out, requires no shaft attachments and takes mere seconds to switch on and start putting.

Colleges/Universities: This is a combo of one and two. Our product is currently being used by a number of colleges/universities and the coaches of a number of international amateur golf teams. The ‘Coaching Subscription’ allows a coach / team manager to manage multiple student profiles, with that their individual diagnosis & analysis. Each student player can be monitored by the college/university or national coach but therein also lies the ability for the player to share the data with his or her own personal golf coach back home, so hence a fairly flexible system when it comes to sharing data around with the necessary people.

Putter Fitting: This is our most recent venture. Ever since we first launched HMP, we were constantly asked as to whether HMP could be used for putter fitting. We went away and took a huge amount of feedback from golf professionals and retailers all over the world, not just whether they would be interested in the product, but what the product needs to do. Many professionals/retailers have tried to create a ‘Fitting Process’ from the tools that are out there, but the same concurring theme appeared time and time again: Current options are to complex, for both fitter and customer. The process takes too long, from pre-setup, calibration and then the process of the actual fitting itself. Finally, return on investment, the overwhelming majority of fitters cannot justify the equipment cost as well as the human/time cost.

Our aim was to provide a fitting solution that was easy to understand for both the fitter and golfer, could be completed in as little as 15 minutes, but flexible enough for the fitter who wanted to extend that out to an hour.

When it comes to both coaching and fitting, we have had lots of pros purchase HMP even though they already have systems with putting included…such as Trackman/Foresight GC Quad, mostly because they don’t want to move those systems from out of there simulator/hitting bay areas. Probably the most remarkable for us is the number of pros who have bought our unit to use with or instead of some of the more expensive putting systems out there…each professional will have their own reason.

GolfWRX: Let’s talk about the price…$599 is it?

Slade-Baker: Pricing is relative to the value proposition of the customer, as for golf professionals, we are seen very much as the cheap option, $599 when compared to $5k – $8.5k. The common misperception is if it is cheaper then it can’t be any good, the biggest single reasons for the difference in price, is we utilize a vastly cheaper technology…in “infrared vs camera and ultrasound,” companies had unsuccessfully been trying to harness infrared for a very long time, our CTO Desmond Burke was able to achieve this, where others couldn’t, so hence we can pass on significant savings!

For the golfer, yes, some will see $599 as a lot of money, because they are not comparing it to similar items. Compare cars for example, you can have a $5k, $30k or $100k car, all will get you from A to B, some will get you there quicker, some run on fuel whilst others on electric, some cars provide more options and features. At the end of the day this technology, with some 4-5 years of R&D behind it will improve the putting stroke of any golfer, regardless of skill level.

You can learn more about Hole More Putts on the company website.

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  1. TONEY P

    Jul 30, 2018 at 11:47 am

    More golf junk for people with more money than sense. A few hours on a practice green helps even the worst strokes and that’s free.

  2. larrybud

    Jul 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    As with all of the lower end devices, the question is in it’s accuracy, so I’ll await judgement after the numbers get compared to higher end devices.

    That said, I don’t like the fact that it sits so high off the ground.

  3. JasonHolmes

    Jul 25, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    Does it come with a mat to stand on?

    That thing looks like its setting the ball 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch off the ground – it would completely distort the swing you are taking.

  4. billy

    Jul 25, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    $499 ? I’d rather buy a Scotty Cameron putter for that money.

    • GolfDonkey

      Jul 25, 2018 at 5:18 pm

      Thank you for sharing your financial priorities

      • stan

        Jul 26, 2018 at 9:52 am

        HMP will not make you a better putter; it will only tell you how bad you are. A new putter will give you confidence and status when putting in front of your golfing buddies.

        • GolfDonkey

          Jul 26, 2018 at 1:34 pm

          Do you buy clubs because they give you “status” in the eyes of your golfing buddies?

  5. shawn

    Jul 25, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    Another gizmo for gullible neurotic incompetent golfers who flub on the greens. Yes, this contraption will solve all your putting woes and worries…. ya think?!!
    Oh… and make sure you own a Scotty or Betti putter for quality putts.

    • Leezer99

      Jul 25, 2018 at 4:23 pm

      I’m not sure this is aimed at the casual golfer. Probably better suited to a coach or instructor that is helping multiple students.

    • larrybud

      Jul 26, 2018 at 3:55 pm

      Just because you wouldn’t know how to use the data doesn’t mean others won’t.

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Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana WB 73 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P770 (2, 4), TaylorMade P7MB (5-PW)
Shafts: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-11TW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 WV 125

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

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Welcome to the family: TaylorMade launches PUDI and PDHY utility irons

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TaylorMade is continuing its UDI/DHY series with the successor to the Stealth UDI and DHY utility irons: PUDI and PDHY (which the company styles as P·UDI and P·DHY). TaylorMade is folding the designs in with its P Series of irons.

TaylorMade outlined the process of developing its new utilities this way. The company started with the data on utility iron usage. Not surprisingly, better players — i.e. those who generate more clubhead speed and strike the ball more precisely — were found to gravitate toward the UDI model. DHY usage, however, covered a wider swath than the company might have expected with six-to-18 handicappers found to be bagging the club.

TaylorMade also found that the majority of golfers playing UDI or DHY utilities were playing P Series irons at the top of their iron configurations.

Can you see where this is going?

Matt Bovee, Director of Product Creation, Iron and Wedge at TaylorMade: “As we look to the future, beyond the tech and the design language, we are excited about repositioning our utility irons into the P·Series family. P·UDI is an easy pair for players that currently play P·Series product and P·DHY is an extremely forgiving option for players of all skill levels. It is a natural fit to give these players the performance in this category that they are looking for.”

 

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TaylorMade PUDI technology cutaway (via TaylorMade)

Crafted with tour player input, TaylorMade sought to develop a confidence-inspiring utility iron that blends with the rest of the P Series irons. Also of note: Interestingly, the PUDI has a more compact head than the P790.

In comparison to past UDI products, the PUDI has a more traditional iron shape, slimmer toplines, and less offset with a little of the backbar visible at address.

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TaylorMade PDHY tech cutaway (via TaylorMade).

Larger in profile than the PUDI, the PDHY seeks to position center of gravity (CG) lower in the club for ease of launch. The toe height is larger and the profile is larger at address — roughly five millimeters longer than PUDI — the sole of the club is wider for improved forgiveness.

Club Junkie’s take

Golfers who feel like they are missing something at the top of the bag could find the PUDI or PDHY a great option. The look of the PUDI should fit the most discerning eye with a more compact look, less offset, and a thinner topline. If you want a little more confidence looking down the P-DHY will be slightly larger while still being a good-looking utility iron.

For being small packages both models pack a pretty good punch with fast ball speeds, even off-center. The feel is soft and you get a solid feel of the ball compressing off the face when you strike it well. Your ears are greeted with a nice heavy thud as the ball and club come together. The PDHY will launch a little higher for players who need it while the PUDI offers a more penetrating ball flight. Both utility irons could be the cure for an open spot in the top end of the bag.

PUDI, PDHY, or Rescue?

TaylorMade offers the following notes to assist golfers in filling out their bags:

  • PUDI has mid-CG right behind the center face to create a more penetrating mid-to-low ball flight
  • PDHY has a lower center of gravity to produce an easier-to-launch mid-to-high ball flight.
  • Both PUDI and PDHY are lower-flying than the company’s hybrid/Rescue clubs.
  • PUDI is more forgiving than P790.
  • PDHY is the most forgiving iron in the entire TaylorMade iron family

Pricing, specs, and availability

Price: $249.99

At retail: Now

Stock shafts: UST Mamiya’s Recoil DART (105 X, 90 S and 75 R – only in PDHY)

Stock grip: Golf Pride’s ZGrip (black/grey)

PUDI lofts: 2-17°, 3-20°, 4-22° in both left and right-handed

PDHY lofts: 2-18°, 3-20° and 4-22° in both left and right-handed

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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.

It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter

From the seller: (@wwcl): “Has been gamed as pics show. 33.5 includes original h/c and grip. $575 includes shipping and PP fees.”

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