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Hole More Putts aims to bring putting analysis to more golfers

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What exactly is Hole More Putts, and how can it help you to do just that… hole more putts?

Well, in short, Hole More Putts is a tool that measures a golfer’s face angle, impact point, speed, path, and angle of attack with the putter and provides recommendations on how to improve his/her stroke.

We spoke with Robert Slade-Baker, Product and Marketing Director for the company.

GolfWRX: Where does Hole More Putts fit in the ecosystem of existing putt analysis tools and software?

Slade-Baker: I would like to start off by pointing out that I will never try and discredit another product. There are a lot of great products out in the market with some fantastic data.

When we started with HMP (Hole More Putts) we were purely focused at the “golfer.” We wanted to provide the golfer with a meaningful tool, that would provide all the relevant feedback that a golfer needs in a manner which is usable. A lot of tools out there focus on data, data, data and forget that everybody that uses the equipment is not necessarily a highly qualified golf professional.

We also wanted to create a “complete-solution” that was not just providing data, but also providing a meaningful diagnosis and analysis of that data, followed by practical video tips and drills to focus on the areas identified through the analysis. Through many years of research, looking at lots of systems out there, we looked at all systems, asked hundreds of people what the perceived faults were with systems and then tried to improve on those. The reality is from a “golfer” perspective, Quintic and SAM Puttlab don’t even come in to the equation, they start at $5k+. So consequently consumers have never really had access to good/relevant putting data at a reasonable price.

GolfWRX: Who is the product aimed at?

Slade-Baker: We believe we have four key markets.

Golfer: The ‘Active Improver’ this is at all handicap levels, whether you are a beginner trying to just understand the dynamics of putting or looking for some marginal gains as an elite player, this product will work well at all levels. Each type of player can take out from the system what they need to improve, whether they want to identify faults in the putting stroke or use it as an effective putting practice tool.

Teaching Professionals: After our first visit to the PGA Show in 2017 and then subsequently in 2018, we were absolutely astonished with the feedback and interest received from golf professionals towards our product(s), the ‘Putting Lesson’ market is desperate for access to relevant putting data at an affordable price, which we provide at a fraction compared to the more expensive systems out there. What’s more when designing our product we listened to both golfers and professionals and asked what they wanted from a system. Hence our unit is completely portable and wireless, usable indoors and out, requires no shaft attachments and takes mere seconds to switch on and start putting.

Colleges/Universities: This is a combo of one and two. Our product is currently being used by a number of colleges/universities and the coaches of a number of international amateur golf teams. The ‘Coaching Subscription’ allows a coach / team manager to manage multiple student profiles, with that their individual diagnosis & analysis. Each student player can be monitored by the college/university or national coach but therein also lies the ability for the player to share the data with his or her own personal golf coach back home, so hence a fairly flexible system when it comes to sharing data around with the necessary people.

Putter Fitting: This is our most recent venture. Ever since we first launched HMP, we were constantly asked as to whether HMP could be used for putter fitting. We went away and took a huge amount of feedback from golf professionals and retailers all over the world, not just whether they would be interested in the product, but what the product needs to do. Many professionals/retailers have tried to create a ‘Fitting Process’ from the tools that are out there, but the same concurring theme appeared time and time again: Current options are to complex, for both fitter and customer. The process takes too long, from pre-setup, calibration and then the process of the actual fitting itself. Finally, return on investment, the overwhelming majority of fitters cannot justify the equipment cost as well as the human/time cost.

Our aim was to provide a fitting solution that was easy to understand for both the fitter and golfer, could be completed in as little as 15 minutes, but flexible enough for the fitter who wanted to extend that out to an hour.

When it comes to both coaching and fitting, we have had lots of pros purchase HMP even though they already have systems with putting included…such as Trackman/Foresight GC Quad, mostly because they don’t want to move those systems from out of there simulator/hitting bay areas. Probably the most remarkable for us is the number of pros who have bought our unit to use with or instead of some of the more expensive putting systems out there…each professional will have their own reason.

GolfWRX: Let’s talk about the price…$599 is it?

Slade-Baker: Pricing is relative to the value proposition of the customer, as for golf professionals, we are seen very much as the cheap option, $599 when compared to $5k – $8.5k. The common misperception is if it is cheaper then it can’t be any good, the biggest single reasons for the difference in price, is we utilize a vastly cheaper technology…in “infrared vs camera and ultrasound,” companies had unsuccessfully been trying to harness infrared for a very long time, our CTO Desmond Burke was able to achieve this, where others couldn’t, so hence we can pass on significant savings!

For the golfer, yes, some will see $599 as a lot of money, because they are not comparing it to similar items. Compare cars for example, you can have a $5k, $30k or $100k car, all will get you from A to B, some will get you there quicker, some run on fuel whilst others on electric, some cars provide more options and features. At the end of the day this technology, with some 4-5 years of R&D behind it will improve the putting stroke of any golfer, regardless of skill level.

You can learn more about Hole More Putts on the company website.

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  1. TONEY P

    Jul 30, 2018 at 11:47 am

    More golf junk for people with more money than sense. A few hours on a practice green helps even the worst strokes and that’s free.

  2. larrybud

    Jul 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    As with all of the lower end devices, the question is in it’s accuracy, so I’ll await judgement after the numbers get compared to higher end devices.

    That said, I don’t like the fact that it sits so high off the ground.

  3. JasonHolmes

    Jul 25, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    Does it come with a mat to stand on?

    That thing looks like its setting the ball 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch off the ground – it would completely distort the swing you are taking.

  4. billy

    Jul 25, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    $499 ? I’d rather buy a Scotty Cameron putter for that money.

    • GolfDonkey

      Jul 25, 2018 at 5:18 pm

      Thank you for sharing your financial priorities

      • stan

        Jul 26, 2018 at 9:52 am

        HMP will not make you a better putter; it will only tell you how bad you are. A new putter will give you confidence and status when putting in front of your golfing buddies.

        • GolfDonkey

          Jul 26, 2018 at 1:34 pm

          Do you buy clubs because they give you “status” in the eyes of your golfing buddies?

  5. shawn

    Jul 25, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    Another gizmo for gullible neurotic incompetent golfers who flub on the greens. Yes, this contraption will solve all your putting woes and worries…. ya think?!!
    Oh… and make sure you own a Scotty or Betti putter for quality putts.

    • Leezer99

      Jul 25, 2018 at 4:23 pm

      I’m not sure this is aimed at the casual golfer. Probably better suited to a coach or instructor that is helping multiple students.

    • larrybud

      Jul 26, 2018 at 3:55 pm

      Just because you wouldn’t know how to use the data doesn’t mean others won’t.

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Denny McCarthy WITB 2024 (February)

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Driver: Callaway Rogue ST Triple Diamond (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 TX

Driver: Callaway Rogue ST Triple Diamond (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth Plus (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 7 X

5-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (18 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X

5-wood: Ping G430 Max (18 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X

Hybrid: Callaway Apex UW (21 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 9 X

Irons: Titleist T200 (4), TaylorMade P770 (5), Callaway Apex TCB (6-9)
Shafts: True Temper AMT Tour White X100

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (48-10F), SM10 (52-12F, 56-08M), WedgeWorks Proto (60-L)
Shafts: True Temper AMT Tour White X100, True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron GoLo N7
Grip: Scotty Cameron

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

Check out more in-hand photos of Denny McCarthy’s WITB here.

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TaylorMade’s new Qi10 drivers are packed with new technology for maximum performance. Whether you are looking for maximum forgiveness or low-spin workability, there is a Qi10 driver for your needs. The faces are still 60 layers of carbon fiber, but in contrast to the Stealth line, feature a much more subtle blue tone. TaylorMade’s new Infinity Carbon Crown not only gives a weight advantage but also gives each driver a much cleaner and better look, to my eye. Each driver is a little different but built for maximum performance.

For the full, more in-depth review, check out the Club Junkie Podcast on every podcast platform and on YouTube.

TaylorMade Qi10 Max

This is the driver that is getting the most buzz it seems from the 2024 TaylorMade lineup thanks to its 10K MOI measurement. This 10K MOI means that the Qi10 Max head is extremely stable on mishits and will prevent the head from swinging open or closed.

The Max definitely has the largest-looking profile from address and has a more rounded shape to it compared to the other Qi10 drivers. I like the more rounded shape, and even though it doesn’t have the classic TaylorMade shape, it is easy on the eyes. The new blue carbon face is also more subtle and you don’t notice it compared to the previous red faces on the Stealth and Stealth 2 drivers.

Out on the course, or range, is where you will notice where the 10K comes into play. The first bad swing will be met with a shot that is more than likely more playable than you would have thought. The head keeps the ball on a straighter trajectory with reduced curve once in flight. You will still miss the fairway right or left with those swings but the shot will typically be straight to either side.

While my numbers from my most recent range session don’t show it, the launch on the Qi10 Max was more mid-high for me on the course. Ball speed was consistent and the Max held onto a good amount of it, even when you didn’t catch the center of the face. I went through my shots and was pretty impressed with the limited variation in ball speed throughout my session.

The spin numbers were also lower than expected and to be fair I was hitting a 9-degree Qi10 Max head, and I typically hit a low draw shot shape. I am not considered a high-speed or spin player, but the Qi10 Max didn’t spin a ton, even when hit low on the face. Only a handful of shots touched the low 3,000 RPM mark while most stayed lower than that. I think moving to the 10.5-degree head would be a better fit for me, adding some launch and a little spin to my shots would increase the distance by a few yards.

TaylorMade Qi10 LS

The model that we first drooled over in Rory and Tiger’s bags early this year! TaylorMade’s 2024 low-spin driver sports a new name, dropping the “Plus” designation. The LS model clearly has the traditional TaylorMade pear shape to it and a noticeably more compact look. A deeper face and shorter length from heel-to-toe give the look of a driver that the more skilled player will be able to easily shape shots with. The head also looks a bit more open than the Max head, and I love that TaylorMade has been able to create toplines that look more open than they appear.

The Qi10 LS creates some very long drives out on the course and range. This driver offers a little more feel and slightly quieter sound than the other two models, you can really feel the ball compress on the face at impact. For players who routinely hit the center, you will be rewarded with consistent fast ball speed and great distance. I hit my two longest drives with this head when I was going through my range session the other day.

Ball flight was flat, but the head is still easy to elevate and hit towering, boring tee shots. I thought the LS was actually going to come out really low, but I had no problem hitting higher shots with almost no spin. If spin is your problem with driver, the LS could be the pill you need as it is a very low spin head. I was rarely getting into the mid-2000s and had most shots in the high 1900 RPM. I never saw a ball go over 2,600 RPM, no matter where I hit it on the face.

Now the LS will show you a little less love when you aren’t swinging well and hitting it close to the center. For me, the start line of my shots was the farthest right of the three heads, but I saw more movement in the air on poor swings. There was also a little more drop-off in ball speed when the ball traveled away from center compared to the Qi10 and Qi10 Max heads.

TaylorMade Qi10

This is TaylorMade’s “bread and butter” head should fit a wide range of golfers. We have seen Rory move into this head, and we should see it in a lot of amateur bags as well this year. The Qi10 head bridges the gap between ultra forgiveness and low-spin distance with a little larger profile than the LS.

The shape is closer to the LS with a slightly more tapered line from the back of the hosel to the round back of the driver. I can’t stress enough how much I like the sleek look of the new Infinity Carbon Crown as it just gives a great view to the golfer.

This driver is the underrated one of the bunch in my opinion. While it isn’t the most forgiving or the lowest spin, it does everything rather well. It is pretty darn forgiving and definitely isn’t in a high spin category so plenty of golfers will find this head working for them.

I found the standard Qi10 the most consistent for me as it was easy to launch, and I think if you took away a few of the shots I hit higher on the face on the LS, this would have been the highest launching head of the group. The launch was mid-high and with that, the spin still never got wildly high. The misses were very straight and like the Max had less curve to them, more straight right or left.

To me, the ball speed numbers seemed to stay more consistent on mishits compared to Stealth 2 and center strikes had a softer feel to them. High-toe misses stayed in play with a more gentle draw and more carry than I expected, most of those shots ended in a pretty tight area. Swinging the Qi10 also felt a little different than the Max as I think the CG placement gives each driver its own unique feel through your swing. The Qi10 felt like it was a touch easier to release and rotated back to square at impact just a little faster than the Max. I don’t know if you could tell if you didn’t hit them side-by-side but if you do you can probably feel the difference.

TaylorMade definitely brought some changes to the Qi10 line, and I think, overall, they’ve crafted some really good drivers. The Qi10 Max will be great for those players who need the most stability they can to find the fairways, and I think will play to lower handicaps than expected. The Qi10 LS will be a skilled player’s wand to create shots and work the ball to positions on the fairway that allow them to score better. The Qi10 will fit a wide range of golfers who are looking for a driver that helps them on bad shots but still has the ball speed and spin to hit their longest drives.

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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.

It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a set of Miura CB302 irons.

From the seller: (@dlarocca1): “Miura CB302 5-GW std loft/lie Axiom 105x. Price: $1,400 – Grips are brand new minus the GW never really used it so didn’t change it. – Irons have been gamed and do show some wear but not abused. -If you want and additional photos just let me know.”

To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Miura CB302 irons

This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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