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18 players switch to Titleist 917 drivers at Quicken Loans National

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Titleist debuted its new 917D2 and 917D3 drivers this week at the Quicken Loans National. After the first tee shots of the tournament were struck, 18 of the 28 Titleist drivers being used in the tournament were one of the new models.

See in-hand photos, and learn more about Titleist’s 917 drivers. 

There was an even split between Titleist’s 917D2 (9) and Titleist’s 917D3 (9), with the most interesting model change coming from Justin Thomas (917D2, 8.5 degrees), who was previously using Titleist’s low-spin 915D4 driver. This could indicate that the 917D2 is significantly lower spinning than past D2 models.

See who changed into what driver and what loft in the list below.

Note: Players who made the cut this week are bolded. Webb Simpson and Bill Haas both changed to the new driver this week and are 10-under par, five shots off the pace of Round 3 leader Billy Hurley III. 

917D2

  • Blayne Barber (9.5 degrees)
  • Erik Compton (9.5 degrees)
  • Bill Haas (9.5 degrees)
  • Charley Hoffman (8.5 degrees)
  • Mark Hubbard (9.5 degrees)
  • Andrew Loupe (8.5 degrees)
  • Peter Malnati (8.5 degrees)
  • Justin Thomas (8.5 degrees)
  • Tyrone van Aswegen (9.5 degrees)

917D3

  • Ben An (8.5 degrees)
  • Brendon de Jonge (9.5 degrees)
  • Chesson Hadley (10.5 degrees)
  • Morgan Hoffmann (8.5 degrees)
  • Patton Kizzire (10.5 degrees)
  • Ben Martin (9.5 degrees)
  • Webb Simpson (10.5 degrees)
  • Cameron Smith (10.5 degrees)
  • Cameron Tringale (8.5 degrees)
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  1. KK

    Jun 29, 2016 at 3:58 am

    Good question about the Justin Thomas switch from a D4 to a D2….I’m really interested to see what real changes Titleist made with the 917. Anyone here still playing the SLDR and think it’s the best driver they ever hit due to the ultra low spin design? I’ve never hit one, but I’ve heard that the tradeoff with the low spin (and distance) is a not so forgiving head. TM released the R7 Superdeep and that lasted about 6 months. I wonder if Titleist has somehow figured out high launch, low spin, and forgiving….we’ll have to wait until the Fall to see.

    On another note, I don’t care about paint color, graphics on the sole or the club face, or what tour pro is playing this club. If it’s the best club for me, I’m gaming it. I’m not really sure why every time a new club comes out, there are so many negative comments about the club before anyone hits it or even sees it in person.

  2. Ron

    Jun 28, 2016 at 10:20 am

    Hmmm, wonder how long before we see the SureFit CG Bar in Titleist Irons?
    Rox

  3. Rarebit

    Jun 28, 2016 at 3:24 am

    Yeah well, unless they start selling maximum allowable CT and COR, Tour-stamped versions on the retail shelves people will believe Titleist can only make decent balls based on other companies’ ideas on compression

  4. Mark

    Jun 28, 2016 at 3:09 am

    They really need these to sell. 915’s are still gathering dust in my area. TM and Ping have battered them out of the park.

    • Jackson Galaxy

      Jun 29, 2016 at 10:46 am

      Not really. Unless people suddenly stop needing new golf balls they’ll be okay.

      • cgasucks

        Jul 4, 2016 at 2:46 pm

        Yeah…their golf balls is their most profitable segment and what is keeping them afloat even if their clubs tanked (which is unlikely).

  5. Marshall Moyes

    Jun 27, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    I am 69 and now play to a handicap of 10.8. Having tried Callaway and Taylor made drivers, I still find the Titleist drivers longer and straighter. I cannot agree with C and T drivers being more forgiving or longer.

  6. the guy

    Jun 27, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    D2 made more cuts. Obvious choice.

  7. Steve

    Jun 27, 2016 at 9:18 am

    Honestly, unless you are a 4 handicapper or less, not sure knowing what the pros are playing means for most of us. Titleist (and I have played them over the years) has been known for making the best looking and purist feeling Drivers in the market. Their failure to challenge Taylor Made and Calloway seems to be rooted in their inability to gain traction in the “big box” retailers and the presumed more forgiving and greater distance offered by TM and C. It’ll be interesting to see if the latest offerings are more of the same. And oh….were they really serious about the new Titanium version priced at $ 1000? Great company, but beyond the Pro Vs….their marketing has been suspect.

    • 300 Yard Pro

      Jun 28, 2016 at 7:27 pm

      People buy what the pros play.

      • um

        Jun 29, 2016 at 3:24 am

        Exactly. They want to buy what the Pros play.

    • Jack

      Jul 20, 2016 at 5:19 am

      For sure the low spin options are not for most amateurs who have a SS less than 100. It’s always easy to get on a launch monitor and figure out what really works for you at a big box store.

  8. Pete

    Jun 26, 2016 at 6:50 pm

    Didn’t Haas get one of those C16’s earlier in the year?

  9. Matt

    Jun 26, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Zak would love to know what those guys were using head/loft wise before and if they changed shafts or went to something new.

    • Zak Kozuchowski

      Jun 27, 2016 at 9:20 am

      Agreed, Matt. We will get that info as new WITB photos roll in over the next few weeks/months. Still lots of tinkering happening.

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WITB Time Machine: Billy Horschel’s winning WITB, 2017 CJ Cup Byron Nelson

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The tournament bearing the name of one of golf’s all-time greats is now known as the CJ Cup Byron Nelson. Back in 2017, it was still the AT&T Byron Nelson and Billy Horschel was still a full-bag PXG staffer. The Florida Gator leveraged those wares to a playoff victory over Jason Day securing his fourth PGA Tour win in the process.

Check out the clubs Horschel had in play seven years ago in Texas.

Driver: PXG 0811X (9 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Black 6 X

3-wood: PXG 0341X (15 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Black 75 6.5

5-wood: PXG 0341 (18 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Black 75 6.5

Irons: PXG 0311T (3, 5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: PXG 0311T Milled (52-10, 56-10, 60-07)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: PXG Bat Attack
Grip: SuperStroke Flatso 1.0

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Check out more in-hand photos of Billy Horschel’s gear from 2017 here. 

 

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How Cleveland Golf’s wedge selector tool improves the wedge buying process

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More than most golfers would care to admit, confusion often reigns when it comes to selecting a wedge — let alone configuring an entire wedge setup. Make? Model? Loft? Grind? Finish? Two wedges? Three wedges? Four? The questions abound!

While it’s easy to get off the fairway and deep into the rough quickly, the framework question for choosing wedges is the same as the entirety of the golf bag: How should I set up my golf bag to shoot the lowest score possible?

Manufacturers, in addition to, well, manufacturing golf clubs, also understand that golfers need to make informed decisions to get the most out of their equipment. It’s with this in mind, and to help golfers answer the aforementioned foundational question about their wedge setup, that Cleveland Golf has launched its wedge selector too.

To learn more, we talked with Cleveland’s Senior Product Manager, Casey Shultz.

GolfWRX: What was Cleveland seeing in the marketplace that led to the development of the wedge selector? How do golfers benefit?

Casey Shultz: Currently, there is a lot of talk about what grind players should play and what is right for their game in that aspect of selecting a wedge. But there is more to improving wedge play than finding the proper grind. We would even argue it’s one of the smaller dials for improvement. Players can find more success with wedges designed from head shape to shaft, sole width, gapping, and then the grind. Putting a system in place that makes the process of selecting the right wedge easier is something we feel can have a massive impact, especially for recreational players.

GolfWRX: Now, in breaking down Cleveland’s wedge selector tool, the point of departure is figuring out whether you’re an RTX or CBX player. Can you briefly spell out who each of these wedges is for?

CS: For lower handicappers, the RTX series is our tour-validated line of blade wedges. These are for players looking to play a lot of open-faced shots around the green, prioritize workability, and like to flight their wedges. CBX wedges are designed to make the short game easier, while still offering some level of versatility for the mid-high handicapper looking for a wedge that will reduce chunks and add forgiveness on all strikes. CBX’s are also a great option due to them blending well in weight and shaping with more cavity back iron sets.

GolfWRX: Proceeding through the RTX wedge selector, one of the first forks in the road is wedge finish. Can you break down the finish options and the considerations for a golfer in making their selection?

CS: With the RTX series we offer Tour Satin, Black Satin, and Tour Rack finishes. Tour Satin is our most popular finish and offers the most grind options. With HydraZip face blasts on the newest RTX Wedges, glare is significantly reduced at address compared to other silver finish offerings. Black Satin offers custom skin options as personalization and is one of the more durable black finishes on the market but will have some visible wear over time especially on the sole. Finally, Tour Rack is our tour authentic raw finish that will rust over time. The Tour Rack finish also comes with the option of applying any of our Tour Crafted leading edge and sole grind offerings to the Wedge for players really looking to fine-tune their performance.

GolfWRX: Can you walk us through the rest of the RTX wedge fitting process?

CS: Once players have selected their preferred finish, we gather information on their iron set and loft preferences to determine proper gapping. A properly gapped set of wedges, both with each other and transitioning from a player’s last iron, is key to ensuring their set covers a wide range of approach yardages well. We then ask specific questions about the performance the player is looking to achieve in their sand and lob wedges to determine proper grinds for each of those wedges. Lastly, we confirm a preference for traditional or Full-Face grooves at each loft. Full-Face grooves offer a new level of versatility, especially with open-face shots, but it’s up to the player if they want to transition to this groove design. Our algorithm will then take these results and determine a set of wedges best suited to the player’s game.

GolfWRX: Let’s circle back to grinds. Is there a grind configuration across their wedges you’re seeing the majority of players choose or is it pretty evenly divided?

CS: The MID grind is certainly the most popular grind across all lofts, with the blend of versatility and forgiveness in a wide range of conditions suiting many players. In sand wedge lofts, the second most popular grind is our FULL, which has a little more bounce than the MID and is especially effective out of the sand or rough. In lob wedge lofts, the popular alternative to the MID is the LOW grind, offering max versatility around the greens. We’re also seeing more amateur and tour players opt for our Full-Face models, especially in the lob wedge lofts where they are planning to open the face and get creative around the greens.

GolfWRX: Can you take us through the CBX wedge selector?

CS: In the CBX selector, we start by determining if a player is looking to play a lob wedge or not. For many recreational golfers, a lob wedge may not be necessary for the consistent short-game performance they are looking to achieve. Next, the CBX selector focuses on ensuring players end up with a set that transitions well into their irons, while also staying within the constraints of a player’s bag setup. With new players distance, game improvement, and super game improvement iron lofts becoming stronger than those of the past, creating a properly gapped set of wedges is trickier than ever for these players. The selector tool takes the guesswork out of the equation, while also considering a player’s set makeup and interest in replacing a wedge. Finally, players are given the option of when or if they would like to transition into a Full-Face design for added spin on strikes all over the face.

GolfWRX: Is there anything else you think GolfWRXers need to know about Cleveland’s wedge selector tool?

CS: Our wedge selector tool is designed to be used in concert with our set builder webpages. At completion of the selector, a player’s recommended wedge set will automatically be applied to the appropriate set builder. From there, they can easily adjust components or build specs to every Wedge all in one place. Players can also add Tour Crafted sole and leading edge grinds to refine their performance on our Tour Rack wedges, or personalize custom characters, skins, and paintfill in the same place. It’s a one-stop shop to build the perfect wedge set for any player’s game.

This article was presented in partnership with Cleveland Golf. Check out the wedge selector here

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Golf fans left surprised by LIV’s choice of course for its 2024 individual championship event

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On Tuesday, LIV announced their individual championship will be held at Bolingbrook Golf Club just outside of Chicago. The event will take place September 13-15.

The late announcement is seemingly due to LIV looking for the right course in the Chicago area that has the infrastructure that can accommodate a professional event.

The choice of Bolingbrook Golf Club has received some feedback on social media.

LIV fans were quick to point out that Bethpage Black, which is hosting the 2025 Ryder Cup, can also be played for a reasonable price, making the point the greens fees don’t always equate to the quality of the golf course.

During LIV’s first two seasons, LIV utilized Rich Harvest Farms in Chicago. It’s unclear why that course is off the rotation in favor of Bolingbrook.

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