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Brad Faxon vs Scott Fawcett: Feel vs Data driven approach? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been having an interesting discussion concerning a feel vs data driven approach to the game.

WRXer ‘NikeGolfer93’ cited a GolfWRX article detailing the feud and contrasting approaches of Brad Faxon and Decade Golf owner Scott Fawcett. You can read the article in full here.

To kick off the post, ‘NikeGolfer93’ quoted from the above article, posting:

“The feud dates back to a video from “a couple of years ago” where Faxon says that a tap-in putt didn’t necessarily mean the first putt had “good speed” and he took exception with broadcasters consistently implying that notion.

Faxon said when he hit a good putt that didn’t go in, it would end up “past the hole enough where I had to mark it”. Fawcett was shown the video and said that he disagreed with Faxon’s opinion on what “good speed” meant.

Faxon has often said that golfers shouldn’t focus on their statistics, and he has continuously dismissed the notion that players should record stats if they want to improve.”

And our members have been sharing which approach they feel works best in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • BlueDragonKorea: “I feel like it’s hard to argue against Fawcett since if you guarantee that every putt is long of the hole, you’re skewing your dispersion of putts way past the hole. You aren’t magically going to become better at speed just because you guarantee the putt is past the hole, so you may make something that would have been a 3 footer into a 6 footer. If you get “lucky” while putting like this, you may make way more putts in a given round, but on the whole, you would fall behind in your putting statistics because you have 6 footers instead of 3 footers.”
  • Ironman_32: “I’d say feel is individual, data is the average. It’s like comparing Bubba Watson’s swing vs Adam Scott. Adam’s would be considered more “classical” and maybe a better model for someone to copy if they are just starting out, but Bubba has double the green jackets.”
  • Ppperturbo: “I agree with Faxon… a good putt is past the hole by a foot, maybe.  Short of the hole means short, NOT enough to reach, so not necessarily a good putt.  Call it what you will, if it makes you feel better, still there is NO WAY a short putt can find the cup.”

Entire Thread: “Brad Faxon vs Scott Fawcett: Feel vs Data driven approach? – GolfWRXers discuss”

 

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Gianni is the Managing Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at [email protected].

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  1. Jim Outland

    Jan 12, 2024 at 10:34 am

    Short game guru Dave Pelz, the ultimate data driven teacher, said that the optimal speed would leave a missed putt 18 inches past the hole.

    • Dave Linkchorst

      Jan 12, 2024 at 9:37 pm

      The drawback game, used in his two Compaq World Putting Championships, was a great learning tool. Give the put a chance-if you miss, be on the high side and up to the hole (within 34 inches)…

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LET pro gives detailed financial breakdown of first week on tour…and the net result may shock you

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On Friday morning, Ladies European Tour player, Hannah Gregg, took to social media to share her weekly expenses playing on the LET.

“Expenses of my first week on Ladies European Tour: Flights: $2600 Work Visa: $350 

  • Food: $377 
  • Caddie: $0 because I have an amazing Fiancé 
  • Hotel: $0 because  @GregChalmersPGA sorted me host housing for the week!  
  • Rental Car: +0 because the Tour Tee guys GAVE me their car  
  • Gas: $165 
  • Entry Fee: $130 
  • Lounge Pass for caddie: $50 
  • Gym: $0 
  • Yardage book: $0 
  • Total expenses: $3672 

Made cut, finished 54th, total earned: $1244 Factor in 35% tax on earnings. To break even, needed to finish 24th. To make money, 21st. Guess we have our goals laid out for next event!”

When factoring in Gregg’s free housing, free caddie and free rental car, it’s evident that most LET players would have to finish well inside of the top-20 to make any money.

With ridiculous amounts of money being thrown around in professional golf these days, it’s important to remember the other side of the coin as well. There are countless professionals out there who struggle to get by on their golf salary.

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54-hole golf tour deemed eligible for OWGR points…but it’s not LIV

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After a seventeen-month application process, a 54-hole golf tour was deemed eligible for OWGR points.

Unfortunately, for LIV Golf and their fans, it was the Clutch Pro Tour.

After the decision, which is effective immediately, OWGR chairman Peter Dawson issued a statement.

“This is a significant milestone for golf, and OWGR is deeply encouraged by the achievement and the continued efforts in developing the sport of golf in the United Kingdom.”

“We look forward to watching the progress of the Clutch Pro Tour as it continues to play a key role in the development of players from the region,” Dawson added.

The Clutch Pro Tour operates in the United Kingdom and features a 36-hole cut. It also has an open qualifying school.

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Charlie Woods attempting to qualify for spot at 2024 U.S. Open

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As first reported by Bob Harig of Sports Illustrated, Charlie Woods will be attempting to qualify for this year’s U.S. Open at Pinehurst No. 2.

The first stage of qualifying for this year’s tournament will be an 18-hole local event on Thursday, April 25th, in Port St. Lucie, Florida.

There will be 84 players in the field, five of which will reach the 36-hole qualifier that will take place in June.

Earlier this season, Charlie attempted to qualify for the Cognizant Classic, and struggled, shooting an 86.

If the younger Woods is able to qualify, he will tee it up in the same field as his father in a few months at one of the more historic U.S. Open venues.

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