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Hank Haney: It’s easier than ever to win on the PGA Tour

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Hank Haney, one time coach to Tiger Woods and Mark O’Meara, believes that it’s easier than ever to win on the PGA Tour.

On his Twitter account @HankHaney posted a 60-second snippet of his views, to be heard fully on his ‘Hank Haney Podcast’, during which he claims that stats will back up his opinion that the game is more open than ever.

Once suspended from his PGA radio show for comments made on SiriusXM, the outspoken coach has always had a solid presence on social media and uses YouTube to showcase much of his coaching advice, and he’s now got the golf community chatting again.

Haney claims that ”JT (Justin Thomas), Dustin Johnson, Collin Morikawa and Rory McIlroy – these guys eat up 36 percent – 35 percent – of the tournaments.”

He continues with the math. ”At least 65 percent to be eaten up by someone else.”

The author of ‘The Big Miss’, a recollection of his time with Tiger, then added the big hitting statement:

”Tiger, alone, ate up more than that. One person. Not counting Phil, Vijay, Ernie Els. One person.

Harder to win on the PGA Tour now? Ha, come on, please! Try to tell that to somebody else. It’s easier to win on the PGA Tour, maybe easier than it’s ever been to win on the PGA Tour.”

 

Is Haney on the money or off base?

Over to you, GolfWRXers.

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  2. jgpl001

    Feb 11, 2022 at 4:54 am

    Oh wow…. I’ll have some of what Hank is taking

  3. Tim

    Feb 10, 2022 at 11:47 am

    Hamey seems not having a clue what is going on in PGA Tour as almost every weekend you have a new winner.

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  5. haney nos beast

    Feb 10, 2022 at 7:58 am

    As usual, off base but will yap away regardless. Maybe he’s needing money again and will be shovelling another product or method. Stop giving Haney any press, he wasn’t relevant, basically ever.

  6. Jmacgolf

    Feb 10, 2022 at 6:53 am

    The problem with his statement as that the other 65% that can be “eaten up by someone else” can nearly be anyone in the field as the fields only get deeper each and every year. This actually makes it more difficult. It’s the same reason why there were more guys who won multiple majors 40 years ago.

  7. Warner

    Feb 10, 2022 at 3:12 am

    I would disagree with him for the same reasons. The average skill is absurdly high this decade, there are probably hundreds of players from the feeder tours that can easily put 4 super low scores together from thursday to sunday. In addition there are thousands of players in europe, south africa, thailand, korea, japan that battle for tiny purses on their super competetive regional tours. The sunshine tour in south africa alone is probably equally skilled to the kornferry tour. So everytime they move abroad they have reasonable chances to grab a win.
    The only thing that are holding these players back is the qualification system to get a start on of the big tours. this system heavily favors college players and local american pros.

  8. James Colhoun

    Feb 9, 2022 at 1:33 pm

    In playing in Saudi Arabia Mr Mickelson perhaps should reflect on the series violations in that Country

    • Phil Mickelsen

      Feb 9, 2022 at 11:53 pm

      As you type away on a device presumably made by child labor in China…

      • Tim

        Feb 10, 2022 at 11:46 am

        Hamey seems not having a clue what is going on in PGA Tour as almost every weekend you have a new winner.

      • your exasperated mother

        Feb 11, 2022 at 4:16 am

        Sigh, let me explain this slowly.

        Using smart phones and laptops = technology that is essential to our existence as we know it and involves human rights abuses that we should indeed address.

        Millionaires going to play for millions in a human rights abusing country = not essential either to themselves or the golf community at large.

        These people just think their greed is more important than torture, murder and slavery, all things Saudi uses regularly.

    • Henry R Fitzgerald

      Feb 10, 2022 at 9:31 pm

      Get a grip!

      Remember when the PGA Tour saved a tee time for convicted wife abuser and crackhead George Floyd?

      The PGA Tour has no moral ground to judge anyone who wishes to play in Saudi Arabia.

      Fool!

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‘They’re gone’ – Aussie pro says Cam Smith and fellow countryman have joined LIV

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Despite no LIV events being on this week, the breakaway tour continues to make headlines.

According to Australian golfer Cameron Percy, both Cameron Smith and Marc Leishman have now signed contracts to join LIV Golf.

In an interview with RSN radio, which is a station based in Australia, Percy claimed that both of the Australian star’s departure from the PGA TOUR is a done deal.

It’s been rumored since the Open Championship that the winner of the Claret Jug, Cameron Smith would be joining LIV for somewhere around $110-125 million.

Percy also mentioned that Adam Scott could be joining as well. It’s likely that LIV would be looking to make an Australian team built around Smith, Scott and Leishman.

“Unfortunate, yeah, they’re gone (Smith, Leishman)” Percy said.

“I had a long conversation with Adam Scott and he was very interesting talking to about it, just where it is. He said he met with these guys (LIV) in 2017 (and) they were ready (to) do all this. So, the Tour has known for a long time that this stuff’s in the works.

“The more and more you look into it, some people don’t care, some people have got a conscience and do care.

“It really comes down to, you know, they just executed 80 people this week, just chopped their heads off. They’re not the nicest people in the world.

“Do you just look past that and go, ‘Oh well, I’m rich I don’t really care’. It’s a tough one, it really is.”

With all indications appearing as if the Champion Golfer of the Year has left the PGA TOUR for LIV, there is no doubt he is the most consequential addition for Greg Norman thus far.

The 28-year-old is in the prime of his career and is ranked number two in both the Official World Golf Rankings and the FedEx Cup standings.

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PGA Tour accuses LIV rebels filing a lawsuit to play FedEx Cup of ‘fabricating an emergency’

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The ‘LIV 11’ lawsuit was always going to make public the internal rows and wrangling between players, organizers and the various tours.

Amongst the 11, three players – Talor Gooch, Matt Jones and Hudson Swafford – are seeking a TRO (temporary restraining order) in order to be able to play the FedEx Cup events, starting on Thursday.

As reported last week, the complaint from the LIV players alleges that being denied access to the FedEx Cup Playoffs not only would prevent Gooch, Swafford and Jones from playing in those events but “also cripples their chances of qualifying for both the Majors and the Tour’s premier invitationals in future seasons. The punishment that would accrue to these players from not being able to play in the FedEx Cup Playoffs is substantial and irreparable, and a temporary restraining order is needed to prevent the irreparable harm that would ensue were they not to be able to participate.”

The PGA Tour yesterday issued its response to the accusation, the 30-plus page document stating that “the TRO plaintiffs waited nearly two months to seek relief from the court, “fabricating an emergency they now maintain requires immediate action.”

The PGA Tour continues:

“Despite knowing full well that they would breach Tour Regulations and be suspended for doing so, plaintiffs have joined competing golf league LIV Golf, which has paid them tens and hundreds of millions of dollars in guaranteed money supplied by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund to procure their breaches. TRO plaintiffs now run into court seeking a mandatory injunction to force their way into the Tour’s season-ending FedExCup Playoffs, an action that would harm all Tour members that follow the rules. The antitrust laws do not allow Plaintiffs to have their cake and eat it too.”

The tour uses several statements from the plaintiffs in its defence.

When asked if he knew the tour would ban him from the tour for playing without a conflicting event-release, Jones said, “you’ve got to expect” it and acknowledged the possibility of never playing on the PGA Tour again after his suspension. “I did come to this [LIV] series and this tournament with the understanding that could be the case.”

The tour also argues against Gooch’s statement at the Open Championship that he only intended to play a single LIV event before getting suspended, the tour believing that he was intending to play more than the inaugural event at the Centurion Club.

Alongside those objections, the PGA Tour object to the accusation of pressuring sponsors to cancel existing deals with LIV players, that it enlisted the more experienced players, such as Tiger Woods, to intimidate players from joining, and that it colluded with the DP World Tour in its reaction to the defections.

The document ends, “For the foregoing reasons, the PGA Tour respectfully requests that the court deny TRO.”

Elliot Peters of Keker, Van Nest & Peters, representing the PGA Tour, confirmed the stance being taken by the leading tour.

“The players’ participation in the LIV league is in violation of the PGA Tour’s Handbook and Tournament Regulations,” he stated.

“For enormous sums of cash supplied by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund, Plaintiffs willfully breached their agreements with the PGA Tour. The players’ purported harm is entirely self-induced. We will litigate this case vigorously to preserve the reputation of the PGA Tour and protect the benefits it offers to players.”

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‘Grow the game? Bullsh*t. They paid me a lot of money’ – Feherty on reasons why he joined LIV

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In the past few months, the golfers who’ve chosen to join LIV Golf have faced extreme criticism by media, fans and fellow players.

The fact that the money is being sourced by the Saudi Government has been one of the main points of contention as well as the fact the events feel like more of an exhibition than a professional golf event.

However, one of the other criticisms that have been echoed quite often is the lack of honesty of those who have joined LIV Golf. Many have claimed their reason for joining was to “grow the game” or for a new and unique experience. Even those who have been supportive of LIV would have a hard time claiming that those were the most influential factors of those who’ve left.

David Feherty, who made his LIV Golf debut at Trump Bedminster two weeks ago isn’t among those who are sugarcoating their reasons for joining the Saudi-backed golf series.

In a recent interview with Gary Koch, the eccentric TV personality admitted money was his primary motivator when asked by the host why he made the move:

“Money. People don’t talk about it. I hear, ‘Well, it’s to grow the game. Bullsh*t. They paid me a lot of money.”

Feherty also expressed that the opportunity to be himself again was another reason he was excited to join LIV.

“It was an opportunity to be myself again,” he said. “It’s become more and more difficult, especially in sports broadcasting, to have any kind of character. Charles Barkley can say pretty much anything he wants, because it’s, ‘Oh, that’s just Charles.’ And it is just Charles. But I have become more and more guarded over the last few years.”

As for critics who Feherty feels are ‘hoping to be offended by something’, Feherty did not mince his words, saying:

“There are people waiting around every corner hoping to be offended by something. F*** those people. Our lives are being shaped by small groups of mean-spirited people who have no sense of humor. We’re in danger of losing our national sense of humor because of this.”

Feherty was also asked about the source of the money and Saudi Arabia’s ties to 9/11.

“The 9 /11 Commission said that the Saudi government wasn’t involved,” the 63-year-old said.

“People that criticize are doing business with China, doing business with Russia. China, in particular, is a country where they’re murdering Uyghurs left, right, and centre, and their human rights record is horrendous.

“You can point to various countries throughout the world. I wouldn’t want to behave like that, but wherever golf is, good happens, and I’m hoping this will do the same thing. [LIV] has said it’s going to donate $100 million to area charities.”

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