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Tour Rundown: Berger wins at Pebble, golf world wakes up



The 2021 AT&T Pro-Am at Pebble Beach was one for the memory, and not just for the eventual champion, Daniel Berger. The week began with the cold reality that pro-am participants, and the fans that they attracted, would not participate. The announcement had been made weeks before, but to see Spyglass Hill and Pebble Beach golf courses, essentially unimpeded, was a not-unwelcome opportunity.

In the absence of the celebrities and those who can afford (and receive) a sport in the Pro-Am, a full field of 156 golfers was able to start play on Thursday on the Monterey peninsula. Tour Rundown takes a look at what defined this year’s event, and how it might be shaped for years to come.

Berger is very good when he’s very good

If you follow golf (and your presence here suggests that you might) you’ve read ad nauseum that Daniel Berger was the hottest golfer on tour in the weeks leading up to the 2020 pandemic shutdown. It was true then, and it may be developing into a different shape in 2021. When a Florida kid wins on California greens, especially those at Pebble Beach, it’s big news. To put it bluntly, they’re not the same kind of putting surface. We’ll talk about that in a bit.

For Berger to shoot 65, with a pair of eagles, including one at the final hole, was stunning and telling. Berger is a gamer and should be a fixture on USA Ryder and Presidents Cup teams. He is that strong and, with the proper partner, would be a double weapon for the Red, White, and Blue. Look for Berger to win at more than one of the Florida events that run from late February to late March.

California kids went away on the weekend

What about those raised in the region? They didn’t go away, but they didn’t win. In fact, if not for Berger’s brilliance, one of them might have won. Maverick McNealy, Patrick Cantlay, Max Homa, and Cameron Tringale are all natives of the USA’s 31st state. Each of them had a storied amateur career, including stints on the USA side of the Walker Cup. Each of them seeks to establish himself on the PGA Tour as a consistent winner.

Sunday was an opportunity for the foursome, but something impeded their individual marches to the top of the podium. McNealy had a pair of bogeys on the outward nine, but my goodness, he did post 8 birdies on his way to a career-best, solo second-place finish. Cantlay began the week with a 10-under effort at Pebble, but struggled on Friday and Saturday (where he really lost the tournament.) His play Sunday was strong, but when 65s and 66s were available for the taking, a 68 wasn’t going to get the job done. Since Max Homa gave up his side-hustle of Funny Twitter Guy, he’s turned in some sizable performances. Bogey on two hole on Sunday’s back nine revealed that some work lies ahead, but top ten means that he’ll have the security to do so. Tringale is the elder statesman of this group, by a few years. His work on Sunday was similar to that of McNealy: lots of birdies (7) and a pair of bogeys. Tringale needed to be perfect, but perfection eluded him on this day.

Back to those greens

The putting surfaces at Pebble, and many courses along the California coast, wage annual war with poa annua and nematodes. The former is a grass that invades desirable putting-green grasses and can be a devil to eliminate, both at cost and work hours. The latter is a type of worm that can do severe damage to gardens and grasses. Putting on poa annua is an art form, not usually mastered by East Coast golfers. In Florida, the dominant grasses found on putting surfaces are strains of Bermuda, which is essentially a weed found across the southern hemisphere. Putts tend to break more and run slower. Even professional golfers admit to great comfort in one of three regions: west, southeast, or north (where bent grasses are most common.) While the PGA Tour does play on surfaces that are groomed to near perfection, kids still grow up on imperfect surfaces and get to know those surfaces well. That’s why Berger winning this week is such a big deal.

Who put a hex on round three?

Francesco Molinari topped a tee shot at the first hole, Akshay Bhatia chunked his approach to the 8th green (but did make it over the chasm), and Vincent Whaley laid up on the par-three twelfth hole. That’s three odd shots in one round, and television caught two of them live. Perhaps the professionals do it more than we expect (which is never), and perhaps the absence of amateurs allowed us to see more of the professionals (we’ll discuss that next), but still, seeing clubs go off-line and shots go awry was equal parts jolting and comforting.

Should the amateurs return?

In one word: no. We don’t love golf for the antics of the celebrities, and we don’t need to see corporate types who clearly have enough time to get their games in shape to play well on a big stage. It’s cool for them to receive an invitation, but the return for golf is not equitable.

The celebrities slow up the process in three ways: fan interaction, in-round interviews, and bad play. Fan interaction is nice but can be encouraged in ways beyond dancing elderly ladies into bunkers. In-round interviews are insightful, but always incite slow play, which makes rounds drag on, and opportunities at victory ebb away. Bad play? No justification to televise that. No one wants to see bad golf anywhere other than a viewer-controlled YouTube video. Subject us to hours on end, and we’ll turn our attention elsewhere.

Why might the amateurs stay? Some would point to the origin of the event, as the Bing Crosby clambake. That event went through an evolution, from a few friends in the California desert to a move to the coast, to a short stay in North Carolina (without the PGA Tour, of course) when AT&T took over the title on tour. It’s the last event that folks from past generations associate with a celebrity host (not even the Hope is remembered thus); not the Genesis (Glen Campbell), nor the American Express (Bob Hope), nor the Farmers (Andy Williams), nor the Honda (Jackie Gleason) have had that staying power.

The AT&T has an opportunity to re-imagine its event. Fingers and toes are crossed that it makes the bold decision to eliminate the Am portion of the event for good. The courses of the Monterey Peninsula tell a wonderful story.

Return the Monterey Peninsula Shore Course to the rotation next year, add even more professionals, and let the layouts be the focus of the telecast.

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Ronald Montesano writes for from western New York. He dabbles in coaching golf and teaching Spanish, in addition to scribbling columns on all aspects of golf, from apparel to architecture, from equipment to travel. Follow Ronald on Twitter at @buffalogolfer.



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  2. Will

    Feb 16, 2021 at 8:38 am

    Cant agree more on the amateur subject. This was the first AT&T I’ve watched in years due to the pure golf offered. If I want to see bad golf and general buffoonery, there’s plenty of places to do that.

  3. Henny Bogan

    Feb 16, 2021 at 8:05 am

    I noticed several typos in this article.Perhaps it was not Ronald´s fault but someone needs to correct them. It´s difficult to read a critique with such unforced errors.

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 16, 2021 at 8:41 am

      I’d love for you to list them. I went over it with a loose-toothed comb and found the missing “S” (the one that is on my red and blue superhero suit.)

  4. T

    Feb 16, 2021 at 7:24 am

    It’s one event a year that has celebrities in rotation. Is it silly? Sure, sometimes. But other times it’s good entertainment. Take away the celebrities and it’s just another event like any other. It also raises an absurd amount of money for charity, but you didn’t bother mention that. If you don’t like it, there’s a bunch of other things on TV to watch that week. I think the celebrities potentially bring a lot more people into the game who might not ever golf before. What I do think they need to get rid of are the corporate CEO’s and other wealthy people who buy their way in just cause they can. I enjoy seeing Bill Murray, but I couldn’t care less about seeing some random business mega millionaire chop it around. In my opinion, keep the celebrities, keep raising money for charity, but stop with the random wealthy people nobody knows about, stick to actual celebs only.

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 16, 2021 at 8:45 am

      I appreciate this comment. I still disagree with its premise, but it is well-laid out. I like watching Bill Murray act; perhaps Bill would enjoy watching me teach (what I do best.) I know that there are celebrity-only events that are televised. Problem is, those are based on skill. It’s ironic that the one that involves professionals, is the one with the greatest amount of distractions.

      I suspect that the fans in attendance do their best to egg the entertainers on, and they respond, and hold up play, and donkey’s out the door.

  5. Megakarl99

    Feb 16, 2021 at 7:24 am

    I enjoy watching less skilled players play if they’re entertaining. Bill Murray comes to mind. The match with Peyton and Brady was one of the most entertaining golf broadcasts I saw in 2020 (though I admittedly was jonesing at that point). There’s a relatability to seeing a botched shot and a funny, honest reaction. There’s a REAL enjoyment at watching someone who’s been struggling hit a great shot and owning it a la Brady’s epic hole-out.

    Pro-ams could be a lot of fun if they changed the presentation. The current formula isn’t working. The LPGA pro am event a few weeks back was a disaster. Get the right people in the mix, mix them up and make them an added value, not an obstruction

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 16, 2021 at 8:48 am

      You’ve nailed it! The hot mess that Pro-Ams have devolved into, needs retooling. I propose the idea of a celebrity playing specific holes in the round, but not all of them. The celeb and the pro know precisely which hole it will be (like the par three holes and a couple of the scenic ones: six in total) The rest of the time, they stroll the fairways and chat up the fans. If amateurs want to compete, the USGA, state and local associations have events. If celeb amateurs want to compete, the celeb tour has events.

      People are afraid of letting go of something that their grandparents and parents and greats loved, and something that might have gotten them into the game. I loved the click-clack of metal spikes, but I don’t miss them.

  6. Christian Rossi

    Feb 15, 2021 at 2:15 pm

    Celebrity amateurs to be scratch or better only.
    No more over sixty and people who tooks three hybrids to get to a green.
    That would be a good Pro-Am otherwise drop them definitely.

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 15, 2021 at 9:11 pm

      I don’t dislike this idea. There would always be clowns who claim a lower handicap, just to get in. There could be a trial by shame on the 7th: miss the green and you’re out.

  7. Garrett

    Feb 15, 2021 at 12:08 pm

    Here’s another vote to get rid of the amateurs. Get rid of em!! Do that garbage somewhere less, I don’t know, Pebble Beachey….

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 15, 2021 at 12:33 pm

      I actually think that the amateurs would work splendidly at the Waste Management event. It’s already a wild child, so why not take it to the extreme and bring in all the rowdy friends? Can you imagine Bill Murray and the Scottsdale crowd on the 16th hole?

    • Get Good Garrett

      Feb 15, 2021 at 2:22 pm

      Garrett stopped in, between rounds of 113, 118 and a personal best 107, to comment.

  8. g daddy

    Feb 15, 2021 at 11:52 am

    You forgot about JT hosting the Las Vegas event. LOL

    It was an excellent tournament, the greens for whatever reason, we’re especially difficult on the short putts. Don’t think I’ve ever seen pros miss so many short ones – except maybe in a dried out US Open.

    Didn’t miss the celebs at all, except Bill Murray. Can’t say that I would want them to go away, it’s sort of the spirit of the tournament. If the networks could just avoid showing them so much and avoid the dumb interviews.

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 15, 2021 at 12:34 pm

      I don’t think that they can avoid showing them so much, and they can’t belittle them, and they have to stroke their egos by interviewing them about their latest project.

  9. David Landig

    Feb 15, 2021 at 10:18 am

    Best Pebble Beach Pro-Am to date. Didn’t miss watching the CEO/celebrity hacks take up the camera time one bit!

  10. T Lo

    Feb 15, 2021 at 10:10 am

    Zip about Spieth blowing another 54 lead??

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 15, 2021 at 12:35 pm

      Don’t beat a man when he’s down. The next time I mention Spieth, it will be for a win.

    • Ronald Montesano

      Feb 15, 2021 at 12:37 pm

      It was like watching Winged Foot at the September Open, and Augusta National at the November Masters. Zero obstruction, pure golf course, no fan interference/assistance. So good.

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Morning 9: McIlroy, Conners on top at Bay Hill | Nelly surging again | Digging into the Golf Channel allegations



By Ben Alberstadt
For comments—or if you’re looking for a fourth—email me at [email protected].
You can also find me on Twitter and Instagram.
March 5, 2021
Good Friday morning, golf fans. I’ve gotten a handful of requests for a physical version of the coffee mug in the header graphic above. Should we make a Morning 9 coffee mug available for purchase?
1 McIlroy, Conners ahead at Bay Hill
The AP’s Doug Ferguson…”Bay Hill was bustling Thursday, just like golf before the pandemic. The fans were limited in numbers, but they all wanted the same dose of entertainment provided by Rory McIlroy and Bryson DeChambeau.”
  • “First it was McIlroy, slowly feeling better about his game, and with good reason. Starting with a 55-foot putt on the par-3 second hole, he ran off five straight birdies for a share of the lead with Corey Conners in the Arnold Palmer Invitational at 6-under 66.”
2. Nelly!
AP report…”Nelly Korda didn’t miss a beat four days after her first LPGA Tour title on U.S. soil, outplaying her sister and the world’s No. 1 player for a 5-under 67 to share the lead at the Drive On Championship.”
  • “Former NCAA champion Jennifer Kupcho managed a 67 despite playing most of the back nine with a migraine that blurs her vision. Austin Ernst also had a 67 at Golden Ocala.”
3. Sheriff: No probable cause for search warrant for Woods’ blood work
Golf Channel’s Rex Hoggard…”Villanueva, who said last week that deputies determined Woods wasn’t impaired during the time of the accident, was also asked about a USA Today report that deputies did not seek a warrant for samples of Woods’ blood to determine if he had any drugs or alcohol in his system.”
  • “In order to seek a search warrant, you have to have evidence of impairment. Absent the evidence of impairment, you’re not going to get a search warrant, period. It’s not going to get signed by the judge,” Villanueva said. “Investigators will determine what is needed to determine the cause of the collision. The first step in obtaining a search warrant is you have to have evidence of impairment to continue going down that vein. Without that you just don’t get the search warrant. You have to establish probable cause for that.”
4. Are the Kordas the LPGA Tour’s best sibling duo ever?
Tony Jesselli for…”Jessica and Nelly Korda became the third sister act to both win on the LPGA when Nelly won in October of 2018. Nelly’s victory this past week was her fourth on the LPGA, while her sister Jessica has won six times. They have become the only sister act where both players have won more than once.”
  • “Why do I think the Korda sisters are the greatest golf sister act ever? The answer to that in my opinion is easy. While Annika Sorenstam is a World Golf Hall of Famer, her sister only won once. That brings us to the Jutanugarns. Ariya is only 25 years old and is a ten time winner, but she has not won since 2018 covering over 50 starts. Can she win again? Sure she can, but she is not trending in the right direction. Sister Moriya has just one victory in well over 200 LPGA starts. Ariya, a former No.1, has fallen to No.23 in the Rolex World Rankings, while her sister is No. 43.”
5. Digging into the Golf Channel sexual harassment, sexism allegations
Ben Strauss dives into reports of sexual harassment and sexist behavior at for the Washington Post…”In interviews with The Washington Post, 16 former and two current employees echoed Cornwell’s concerns, describing sexism, misogyny and harassment they have endured at the network.”
  • “Golf Channel disputed Cornwell’s claims in a response to the EEOC. An NBC spokesman, Greg Hughes, said in an email that the network is “vigorously defending this matter.”
  • “Presented with a list of allegations made by other women, Hughes disputed many of their claims and said “the vast majority” had been investigated and that “appropriate action was taken.” Others, he said, the network was only now hearing of and would investigate “promptly and thoroughly.” The network declined to make any employees available for interviews.”
  • “Many of the women spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing fear of breaking the nondisclosure agreements they signed in exchange for severance…”
  • “Golf Channel is committed to providing a workplace where all employees are treated equitably and respectfully, and regularly conducts training to support that goal,” Hughes said.
  • “Former employees agreed that many of the men they made complaints about did eventually leave the network. But the culture, they said, remained.”
6. Study: Golf fans are the angriest fans of social media
Our Gianni Magliocco…”Hop on to social media during a live sporting event, and emotions are spilling over, but when it comes to golf, the prominent feeling is often anger and frustration.”
  • “That is down to gambling, and according to a new study from OnlineGambling.Ca, golf supporters are the angriest on social media, with 42% of all tweets about the sport being classified as an angry comment.”
  • “The study also found that cricket and ice hockey fans show the most love for their team, with 38% of their social media posts being filled with love. Basketball fans seem to be the saddest with their teams’ results, with 38% of reactions being unhappy.”
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Morning 9: Search warrant executed for black box in Tiger crash | Man makes 3 aces in 5 days



By Ben Alberstadt
For comments—or if you’re looking for a fourth—email me at [email protected].
You can also find me on Twitter and Instagram.
March 4, 2021
Good Thursday morning, golf fans.
1. Sheriff’s department seeking “black box” from Woods’ SUV
  • ESPN staff…”The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department executed a search warrant Monday to get data from the so-called black box in the SUV that Tiger Woods was driving when he was seriously injured in a crash last week.”
  • “To get a warrant, probable cause that a crime was involved has to be determined, even if it’s just a misdemeanor. A sheriff’s deputy downplayed the warrant as routine to USA Today Sports on Tuesday, saying he considered it due diligence.”
  • “We’re trying to determine if a crime was committed,” Sheriff’s Deputy John Schloegl said. “If somebody is involved in a traffic collision, we’ve got to reconstruct the traffic collision, if there was any reckless driving, if somebody was on their cellphone or something like that. We determine if there was a crime. If there was no crime, we close out the case, and it was a regular traffic collision.”
2. Status update on “Operation Drive the 6th”
Golf Channel’s Brentley Romine…”For those wanting to see Bryson DeChambeau drive the sixth green this week at Bay Hill, his two water balls Wednesday probably didn’t inspire much confidence. But the weather forecast does provide a glimmer of hope.”
  • “While there was about a 15-mph wind humming in off the right and slightly into him, DeChambeau came up well short on both attempts during his practice round for the Arnold Palmer Invitational.”
  • “The par-5 sixth is listed at 555 yards, but from the back tee box it requires about a 350-yard carry to safely clear the water. On Wednesday, DeChambeau teed his ball up at the very front of the back tee box, about 10 yards in front of the markers.”
3. C.T. Pan saw COVID-19 on the horizon
Dave Shedloski for Golf Digest…“But, again, they [C.T. Pan and his wife] had been exercising extraordinary caution for more than a month.”
  • “Obviously, with family at home in Taiwan, my wife and I have a better idea of what goes on in Asia,” Pan, 29, explained. “Taiwan is only about 80 miles away from China, so from our family and from the Taiwan government we heard about this unknown virus that could be very deadly and spreads fast, and while we didn’t know that much about it, we knew in January that people could be asymptomatic but still have it and might spread it.”
  • “We were being really careful. The last time we were in the restaurant dining was in San Diego [during the Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines], but after we started getting the news about this virus we didn’t go in any more restaurants. We really tried to not go anywhere except for golf. Unfortunately, the rumors were true.”
4. How everything changed for Tiger
ESPN’s Bob Harig and Ramona Shelburne frame the Feb. 23 Tiger Woods crash in compelling fashion…”RIVIERA COUNTRY CLUB in Pacific Palisades, California, is a special place for Tiger Woods — even if it is the venue he has played the most without a victory on tour.”
  • “It is the PGA Tour stop — known back then as the L.A. Open — closest to Woods’ boyhood home in Cypress, California. It is where he made his debut in a professional tournament, playing as an amateur in 1992 at age 16. And it is where, in 2017, his TGR Foundation became the beneficiary of tournament proceeds, with Woods as tournament host.”
  • “That’s why he traveled by private jet from Stuart Aviation near his home in Jupiter, Florida, to Los Angeles on Feb. 19.”
  • “Woods wasn’t playing in the event. He was just eight weeks removed from his fifth back surgery in seven years. There was still plenty for him to do, though: meet and greet tournament sponsors, converse with foundation employees, catch up with other players and preside over the trophy presentation.”
5. Three aces in five days
Wild stuff! Viva Jim Wolklin! Greg Hardwig, Naples Daily News…”Golf has been pretty wild for Wolklin since he got back into the game in the 1980s. The three holes-in-one at Heritage Bay gave him a total of 11.”
  • “When you least expect them, they go in the hole,” said Wolklin, 68. “It’s when you’re not thinking about it, and you’re just trying to make par.”
  • “Wolklin’s wild stretch started on Feb. 12 on No. 13 on the Cypress Course, holing out with an 8-iron from 144 yards with Gary Bradbury, Brad Kroll and Randy Johnson witnessing. Three days later, Wolklin made his second on the 148-yard No. 21 Oak with a 7-iron, with David Foltz, Anthony Nizzardo and Michael McCarthy witnessing. The third was the next day, with his wife Cheryl, Steve Kosek and Mary Kosek witnessing the 9-iron from 130 yards on No. 26 on the Oak Course.”
  • “It’s regular rounds playing with friends,” Wolklin said. “I hit a good shot and then it’s one or two bounces right in the hole.”
6. Your top-ranked golfer in the API field? Tyrrell Hatton
Golf Channel’s Brentley Romine…“Asked on Wednesday how that all feels, Hatton replied: “Standing at 5’8, I wish I could walk onto the range a little taller (laughing), but sadly that’s out of my control.”
  • “Hatton, who boasts six worldwide top-5s (including two wins) since last year’s API triumph, the continued.”
  • “No, I mean, I feel confident when I go to a tournament if I know that my swing’s in a good place and I can kind of, if I manage my emotions well throughout the week then, sure, I’ll give myself a chance,” said Hatton, who is coming off of a T-22 at the WGC-Workday last week. “I felt last week that I was, I didn’t feel like I was swinging it that good and I was getting a bit frustrated and my golf got a little bit better each day. I actually played really good on Sunday … so I take confidence from that, that my swing kind of feels like it’s getting into a good place again and I guess we’ll see exactly tomorrow how it is.”
7. Tiger’s best shots at Bay Hill—and the clubs he used
Our Gianni Magliocco—for—rounded up Tiger Woods’ best shots from his incomprehensible career at Bay Hill…”5. 2012 (final round): Approach to No. 8”
  • “At the 2012 Arnold Palmer Invitational presented by Mastercard, Tiger was looking to end a two-and-a-half-year winless streak, on what was a windy Sunday with greens and pins that Woods would afterwards describe as the most difficult he had ever experienced at this event.”
  • “On the treacherous eighth hole, Woods held a two-stroke lead. Sitting in the middle of the fairway with the pin on the left side guarded by the pond in front of the green, Woods, who would often lean on his cut shot during his time working with Sean Foley, struck a high draw. The ball landed softly on the front portion of the green and rolled to within 5 feet of the cup.”
  • “The bold shot paid off and gave Woods a three-stroke advantage, and he would go on to secure his 72nd PGA TOUR win and begin his ascension back to World No. 1.”
  • Club Used: Nike VR Pro Blade 8-iron with a True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 shaft.
8. Why Claude Harmon III was dismissed
Our Gianni Magliocco…”Brooks Koepka and Claude Harmon III’s split was a surprise when it was announced in January, and the swing coach has given his view on the break up this week on The Filthy Lipout Golf Podcast.”
  • “On the podcast, Harmon III stated that he believed that Brooks “wanted to hear something different”, bringing an end to their highly successful 8-year spell.”
  • “I just got fired by Brooks Koepka. I was with Brooks for eight years. You know, I think you get players that say ‘Listen, I’m just tired of hearing the same thing’ and I’ve always been one that would say, ‘Well listen, I’m not gonna make stuff up, I can try and tell you something different but we kind of know what you do as a player and if you’ve had success.’”
9. Arnold Palmer Invitational Tour Truck Report: Rickie’s iron experiments continue, MMT train rolls on, Rose tests a ton
Yours truly took a stab at the Tour Truck Report…”The fleet of tour trucks arrived southwest of Orlando this week for the Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club and Lodge.”
“It’s an appropriate place to be digging into the nuances of pro golfers’ gear, given the club building, tinkering, and general gear junkie-hood of the tournament’s namesake, Arnold Palmer, whose 10,000 club-filled workshop is gear nut’s cave of wonders.”
  • “Let’s dig into the tweaks and wholesale switches we’re hearing about at the King’s place.”
  • “Byeong Hun An plugged a Mitsubishi MMT Utility 125 TX shaft in his Titleist U500 2-iron.”
  • “Bernd Wiesberger is testing a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 9 TX shaft (tipped 1.5 inches) in his TSi2 3-wood as he searches for more of a consistent cut ball flight. His current gamer features a Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 8 TX shaft with the same tipping.”
  • “Denny McCarthy, Robert Streb, and Byeong Hun An are all testing new Project X EvenFlow RipTide shafts (which began tour seeding in late January)”.
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“We know exactly the optimal launch and spin you should be chasing” Ping’s Marty Jertson – On Spec podcast



On this week’s episode of the “On Spec” podcast presented on the GolfWRX radio network, host Ryan Barath had the opportunity to speak with Ping Golf’s VP of Fitting and Performance Marty Jertson about their new virtual fitting platform along with a whole bunch of other topics related to club fitting and beyond.

One of the key point made by Marty on the topic of optimization was

“…we now have the ability to pass information to the golfer on what exactly the optimal launch and spin you should be chasing “

You can listen to the full show below, the above quote starts at 17:30

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