Equipment
Golf 101: If you could only pick one wedge loft to use, what would it be?
What’s the perfect loft for a sand wedge?
To take it a step further, what if you had to pick one tool to use from short distance? Do you have the chops to hit soft pitching wedges? Hard sand wedges? Do you know how to play with an open face? Closed? Use the bounce? Make something work?
I remember when I first started playing golf and my first full bag of clubs. I remember the set vividly, it was a set of Red Birds (now Avian) driver, 3-wood, 5-wood, 3-PW, a sand wedge, and a Ping Anser 2 putter. If you do the math, that’s the 13 clubs (for the club counters out there) and it was by design. Growing up at Rainier G&CC, I was taught the game by now Director of Golf at Glendale CC Mike Montgomery.
“Where’s the 60?” I asked. “You don’t need it,” said Mike. “Everything you need to do around the greens can be done with your 9-iron and that 56 degree. Once you master those, we can look at a 60.” Not what you want to hear as a 16-year-old, but what did I know?
If you talk to any of the great wedge makers (Vokey, Taylor, Dill, etc), they will tell you the same thing, and it’s not based on some conservative theory—they have seen the best hands in the world play this way. Seve and Lee to name a few.
So I went down The Gear Dive guest list and asked this question…
If you had to pick one wedge to use after the pitching wedge, what would it be and why?
The answers are REALLY interesting.
Rocco Mediate: (50) – “With my bounce numbers then I can make it up to at least 75 degrees dynamic loft on-call, so all bases are covered.”
Ryan Palmer: (50) – “I could hit numerous shots and have shots from multiple distances.”
Aaron Dill: (56-14F) – “I think it’s plenty of loft for anyone but not too much where you’re disconnected from the PW. The F style of sole tends to be forgiving yet subtly versatile in most situations.”
Fred Couples: (58) – “If I had to hit it 100 I could, and I know how to hit a soft PW. Also around the greens, I’d have everything I need.”
Steve Elkington: (52) – “I can always add loft but it’s hard to go the other way. 52 gives me plenty of options to get it done.”
Jimmy Walker: (54) – “I can make it work around the greens and there are lots of 115 shots in golf.”
Chris Trott: (56 High Toe) – “Most golfers need the versatility of a 56, and if they need to turn it down and hit it out of the fairway it’s there. The High Toe gives them a little more versatility on opened face shots.”
So what did we learn here? More loft isn’t necessarily the end all be all. I don’t see any 60-degree wedges mentioned here.
So, the nugget is to get creative with all your wedges. Get to know what each one can do and what they offer. You may find that the more you mess around with them the more shots in your arsenal you will have. If you do it right, you won’t just go for the 60 every time. Most players at the highest level could not only turn one wedge into four or five but could also turn three into 12-15…
And back to the beginner (or me at 16): Master one first, and then add others. Do not make your life more complicated than it needs to be!
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Whats in the Bag
Vince Carter WITB 2024 (March)
- The NBA legend was teeing it up in the Arnold Palmer Invitational Pro-Am.
Driver: Ping G430 Max 10K (9 degrees)
3-wood: Ping G430 Max (15 degrees)
7-wood: Ping G430 Max (21 degrees)
Irons: Ping i230 (4-PW)
Wedges: Ping Glide 4.0 (50, 54, 58)
Putter: Ping
Ball: Renegade Mbu
Check out more photos of Vince Carter’s WITB here.
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Equipment
From the Forums: I need more forgiveness in my irons – Looking for recommendations
In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving irons currently on the market. WRXer ‘TheShark1’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons, saying:
“Currently gaming the Mizuno Pro 225’s but think I need more forgiveness in my irons. My well struck shots are real nice, but my mishits are not performing as good as I had hoped anymore. I really like hollow body irons so if I could find something more forgiving in a hollow body iron that would be great.
Open to any and all recommendations other than Ping. Can’t hit Ping irons at all.”
And our members have been sharing their best suggestions in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- AvidSwampThing66: “Another vote for the super forgiving and fast Paradym irons. They look really good for being a GI iron.”
- bobfoster: “I just went from MP20 MMCs to the new 245s in my scoring irons (just played my first round with them today). If you have a chance to try them, you might find them worth a serious look.”
- vman: “Shoot me down, but spend the money on lessons.”
- J_Tizzle: “i525s are great off the heel in my opinion.”
Entire Thread: “From the Forums: I need more forgiveness in my irons – Looking for recommendations”
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Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (3/18/24): Scotty Phantom X5 Knuckleneck Conversion
At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.
It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.
Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Scotty Phantom X5 Knuckleneck Conversion.
From the seller: (@EdwardSnr): “Scotty Phantom X5- Knuckle Long Neck Conversion (Work done by NorCal Putters) This putter plays at 34 inches long, custom black tour dot added onto the putter face. Baby T Black grip on it and comes with OEM HC. Looking for 649 NOW 609 Shipped CONUS.”
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This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules
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Dr Tee
Dec 22, 2020 at 2:27 am
58 !!
Murv
Dec 20, 2020 at 10:46 pm
I also would pick 54 w/10-11 bounce.
What i really chuckled at was the first set for the guy. 64 years ago at age 13 I got a 3-5-7-9 iron a driver and 3 wood and a putter. Played and became pretty good with that set.
Jay
Dec 19, 2020 at 10:42 pm
Vokey 56-S. From 90y in, it can do anything and the Stricker grind is money if you are a dead hands wedge player.
Pi
Dec 19, 2020 at 3:27 am
56o for me. I am not good opening the club face so need the loft for the ‘too close tothe lip’ bunker shots and ones where there is little green to work with. I suppose a 60o would work as well. Currently after the pw I only have the 56o and it works well
Alex
Dec 15, 2020 at 7:20 pm
I’m trying to go from a 58 as my go to, to a 54. It’s been rough but will stick to it. I picked the 58 since I read the book by Stan Utley and he recommends the 58. Been using the PM19 at 54 and 58 for the past year. Recently changed to the Mizuno ES21, 54 and 59. The change in look is throwing me off for now.
Karsten's Ghost
Dec 14, 2020 at 5:55 am
Mark me down for a 54º.
Bob Jones
Dec 14, 2020 at 9:16 am
Me, too.
Dustin
Dec 18, 2020 at 10:14 pm
Same.
MarcB11
Dec 31, 2020 at 12:30 am
Yup!
joeg_voll_ii.
Dec 13, 2020 at 10:13 pm
Great Question! Very interesting. I enjoyed seeing the Pro choices & their logic behind their selections. I’d have to go with Steve Elkingtons logic, except I’d pick my 50°, for the same reasons he picked his 52°. I’ve been playing Cleveland CG15 wedges for 4 years now. I doubt I’ll ever switch. Their feel & performance is perfect to me. Anytime I find ’em in near mint or like new condition, I buy them. I would pick the 50°(10°b) with 2 white dots that I’ve no clue what it means. I practice so much with it, that I can hit any shot required and it’s my smooth 100 yard club. If I had to give 1 piece of advice to a new player, I’d tell them to pick a wedge that feels good to you, then just master the club. Practice with it until it feels like an extension of your body and you can pull off any shot, effortlessly, without even thinking. Anyway, Excellent Question. Hopefully some will give their picks and logic in the comments.