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Do Bryson DeChambeau’s upright iron lie angles give him an advantage from the rough? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been debating whether Bryson’s iron lie angles give him an advantage over his peers from shots out of the rough. WRXer ‘Valtiel’ kicks off the thread saying:

“Is it possible the Bryson’s extremely upright iron lie angles (~10*+ more upright than standard) give him a bit of an advantage out of the rough? It would seem like the more upright a club is, the less shaft/heel/hosel would actually be grabbed on to/twisted by deeper rough. 

To look at it from the opposite extreme, an iron that was bent significantly flat would, if I’m correct, come into contact with a lot more of the rough around the hosel area. Thoughts?”

And our members have been having their say on the subject in our forums.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • jll62: “Buddy of mine is on the MacKenzie Tour and also has irons that are nearly as upright as Bryson’s. He said better performance out of the rough is definitely a thing with that upright of a lie angle. Basically, if you have a high VSP, you start to minimize rough interaction as much as you can.”
  • NoCalHack: “I don’t think that the lie itself would make a big difference at all. 10 degrees probably means a couple of blades of grass. But one reason why his clubs are so upright is the one length thing. The fact that his longer irons are shorter means he swings them steeper. This no doubt helps him.”
  • Hairpie: “I think the added length that produces more speed is a bigger factor. I also think Winged Foot is more accessible to a bomb and gouge mentality since nearly every green is open in front.”
  • ronbo: “Biggest advantage is the GW is the length of his 6 iron and the amount of club head speed compared to a Std. GW or even a PW out of the rough is unbelievable. Try it sometime. One Length here to stay….”
  • labgolf: “100%. I was saying it all week. Not to mention the extra weight and length on the wedges. HUGE advantage. He’s a sharp cookie!”

Entire Thread: “Bryson’s irons and the rough”

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Gianni is the Managing Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at [email protected].

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  1. Rich

    Sep 24, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    “But one reason why his clubs are so upright is the one length thing.”

    No, it isn’t. His clubs are so upright because his swing is (a) single-plane and (b) upright. This would be true with traditional irons–progressive lie angles, but each far more steep than “standard.” Nothing about that has anything to do with single-length irons.

    I play single-length irons. I have a more-traditional 2-plane swing. All my irons are 2 degrees upright, but that was also the same in my traditional sets because I have slightly shorter arms for someone my height.

    Conflating one-plane swings with single-length irons is a common mistake.

  2. Stokley Carmichael

    Sep 24, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    No, but his broom handle length putter does!

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From the Forums: How are you liking TaylorMade’s Qi10 fairway woods?

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In our forums, our members have been discussing TaylorMade’s new Qi10 fairway woods. WRXer ‘ace036’ plans on testing them in the next few weeks, saying: “from how they look from address and frame the ball is much more appealing to my eye versus my current Paradym fairway woods.” And our members have been sharing their positive feedback in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Edwardsr: “I got fit into the Qi10 core model with Ventus TR Black 8X and it’s absolutely amazing for me.During the fitting with my 12-15 swings with it, it was the most efficient combo I’ve ever tested, tons of 1.48 smash and 3 or 4 1.49 smash (which I don’t think I’ve ever gotten on 3 wood on a launch monitor).”
  • MiloMalt: “No complaints and so far only high praise for my Qi10 Tour 3 and 5 wood. I’m getting great numbers and a nice penetrating ball flight with great height whereas with my old TSi2 4 wood it was spinny and ballooning and short because of that.”
  • courcy75: “The Qi10 Tour 3 wood I just put in play has been outstanding for me. Finally found something I like as much as the 07 burner tp.”

Entire Thread: “From the Forums: How are you liking TaylorMade’s Qi10 fairway woods?”

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Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (3/26/24): Cobra Dark Speed X 7-wood

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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.

It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Cobra Dark Speed X 7-wood.

From the seller: (@Rose Park): “Head only with headcover. $225 shipped.”

To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Cobra Dark Speed X 7-wood

This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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Bettinardi launches first-generation CB24, MB24 irons

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We spotted them on the PGA Tour at the Arnold Palmer Invitational; now they’re heading to retail. Bettinardi Golf today announced its first generation irons: Bettinardi CB24 and MB24 irons.

We’ve seen the veteran putter maker dabble in wedges in the past, but this is the first time Bob Bettinardi and company have set their sites on the widest portion of the golf bag.

“Since I founded the company, the focus has been on crafting the finest equipment in the golf industry for professionals and amateurs alike, and our putters have embodied that belief for 25 years,” said Bob Bettinardi, Founder and CEO of Bettinardi Golf. “I’ve always dreamed of expanding beyond the short game, and now that dream has become a reality. You can feel the decades of expertise and the years of research that went into each head, and we can’t wait to finally bring them to market.”

2024 Bettinardi irons: Key technology

One-piece co-forged solid body: Bettinardi co-forges the 1025 carbon steel chassis with the interior iron components in a bid to deliver superb feel and feedback.

Tri-material construction: Military-grade CMC (ceramic matrix composite) plus high-density tungsten plus forged carbon steel. Bettinardi has balanced these elements to deliver forgiveness in a forged iron and achieve desired weight profiles as well as consistency between irons.

Progressive CG: Bettinardi tweaks the positioning of tungsten and CMC elements in each iron. Accordingly, longer irons (lower CG) are easier to launch, and shorter irons (higher CG) deliver a more penetrating flight with controlled spin.

Bettinardi irons: Additional model details

Bettinardi MB24 irons: Bettinardi’s tour blade features a thin topline and muscleback design. Weighting and feel were the focus in these experts’ tools. The company incorporated its signature honeycomb milling on the rear of the club (and does the same in the cavity of the CB24).

Bettinardi CB24 irons: Bettinardi sought to unite classic design with modern engineering in its CB24 irons. Forged feel meets a progressive cavity with perimeter weighting. Easier launching and more forgiving than their MB24 brethren.

Pricing, specs, availability

  • Price: $1,600/set
  • Pre-order: March 26
  • At dealers/Studio B: April 5 (internationally late April)

CB24 irons will be available in left-handed models as well, which will ship in late June. Bettinardi will offer a range of shaft and grip options.

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