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Forum Thread of the Day: “Going back in time equipment-wise?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Jaygolf37 who asked WRXers on their thoughts on going back in time equipment-wise. Jaygolf37 has recently found success after putting his Ping i5 irons back in his bag, and our members share their thoughts and experiences of siding with older equipment.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Aviador Naval: “I put a ~2005-2006 original Cleveland Ti Launcher fairway back in the bag for the umpteenth time. Smaller footprint by today’s standards. Only 15 deg club I’ve been able to hit reliably from turf. Currently playing a Mn-Bn Anser I bought in 1989. Like the lighter head weight. Just got some MP20 mid and short irons which are basically a redo of the TN-87s. Changes driven by a mix of functionality (fw), variety (putter), and irrational ho’ing (irons).”
  • cgasucks: “All my gamers are old with my newest clubs made in the early 2010s. I feel that with a good swing fundamental, one can play with any club out there. I think older clubs are better feeling, obviously a lot cheaper, and can still keep up with the present-day clubs out there since golf tech has been stagnant for years.”
  • scotty_2987: “Just put my 910 D2 back in play yesterday and had the best driving day I’ve had in a long time, and I was hitting it just as far as all the newer drivers.”
  • MountainGoat: “Whenever I lose my swing, I go back to a set of Maltby CER701Us that I assembled in 2006. Those are the clubs I was using when I discovered my current swing technique, so those are the ones I inevitably return to when I need to re-discover it.”

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Nov 28, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    Sorry, but if any of my old stuff was better than today’s gear, I’d still be using it.

    Better to think about WHY some of that old gear worked and see if you’re still leveraging those characteristics in your current clubs.

    For example, I really had a good time when I switched to a Callaway Steelhead driver with a 43.5″ shaft. I’m thinking about going to a similar length the next time I get fit for a driver, although it will be with a modern head and shaft.

  2. Gray

    Nov 27, 2019 at 11:48 am

    I play ~2007 Cleveland CG-7 Tour Irons. I work at a course where we have demo days multiple times per year. I’ve never found a set of irons with that combination of forgiveness, butter feeling, thin topline, and excellent sound. The closest thing I’ve been able to find were the Apex MBs, but they’re nowhere near as forgiving.

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Whats in the Bag

Ben Kohles WITB 2024 (May)

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Driver: Titleist TSR3 (9 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X

3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth Plus (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X

Hybrid: Titleist TSR3 (19 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue HB 9 x

Irons: Titleist T200 (4, 5), Titleist 620 CB (6-9)
Shafts: Project X 6.0

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (46-10F, 50-12F, 54-12D, 60)
Shafts: Project X 6.0

Putter: Scotty Cameron P5 prototype

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

 

 

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Kris Kim WITB 2024 (May)

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Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana WB 73 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P770 (2, 4), TaylorMade P7MB (5-PW)
Shafts: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-11TW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 WV 125

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

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Welcome to the family: TaylorMade launches PUDI and PDHY utility irons

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TaylorMade is continuing its UDI/DHY series with the successor to the Stealth UDI and DHY utility irons: PUDI and PDHY (which the company styles as P·UDI and P·DHY). TaylorMade is folding the designs in with its P Series of irons.

TaylorMade outlined the process of developing its new utilities this way. The company started with the data on utility iron usage. Not surprisingly, better players — i.e. those who generate more clubhead speed and strike the ball more precisely — were found to gravitate toward the UDI model. DHY usage, however, covered a wider swath than the company might have expected with six-to-18 handicappers found to be bagging the club.

TaylorMade also found that the majority of golfers playing UDI or DHY utilities were playing P Series irons at the top of their iron configurations.

Can you see where this is going?

Matt Bovee, Director of Product Creation, Iron and Wedge at TaylorMade: “As we look to the future, beyond the tech and the design language, we are excited about repositioning our utility irons into the P·Series family. P·UDI is an easy pair for players that currently play P·Series product and P·DHY is an extremely forgiving option for players of all skill levels. It is a natural fit to give these players the performance in this category that they are looking for.”

 

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TaylorMade PUDI

TaylorMade PUDI technology cutaway (via TaylorMade)

Crafted with tour player input, TaylorMade sought to develop a confidence-inspiring utility iron that blends with the rest of the P Series irons. Also of note: Interestingly, the PUDI has a more compact head than the P790.

In comparison to past UDI products, the PUDI has a more traditional iron shape, slimmer toplines, and less offset with a little of the backbar visible at address.

TaylorMade PDHY

TaylorMade PDHY tech cutaway (via TaylorMade).

Larger in profile than the PUDI, the PDHY seeks to position center of gravity (CG) lower in the club for ease of launch. The toe height is larger and the profile is larger at address — roughly five millimeters longer than PUDI — the sole of the club is wider for improved forgiveness.

Club Junkie’s take

Golfers who feel like they are missing something at the top of the bag could find the PUDI or PDHY a great option. The look of the PUDI should fit the most discerning eye with a more compact look, less offset, and a thinner topline. If you want a little more confidence looking down the P-DHY will be slightly larger while still being a good-looking utility iron.

For being small packages both models pack a pretty good punch with fast ball speeds, even off-center. The feel is soft and you get a solid feel of the ball compressing off the face when you strike it well. Your ears are greeted with a nice heavy thud as the ball and club come together. The PDHY will launch a little higher for players who need it while the PUDI offers a more penetrating ball flight. Both utility irons could be the cure for an open spot in the top end of the bag.

PUDI, PDHY, or Rescue?

TaylorMade offers the following notes to assist golfers in filling out their bags:

  • PUDI has mid-CG right behind the center face to create a more penetrating mid-to-low ball flight
  • PDHY has a lower center of gravity to produce an easier-to-launch mid-to-high ball flight.
  • Both PUDI and PDHY are lower-flying than the company’s hybrid/Rescue clubs.
  • PUDI is more forgiving than P790.
  • PDHY is the most forgiving iron in the entire TaylorMade iron family

Pricing, specs, and availability

Price: $249.99

At retail: Now

Stock shafts: UST Mamiya’s Recoil DART (105 X, 90 S and 75 R – only in PDHY)

Stock grip: Golf Pride’s ZGrip (black/grey)

PUDI lofts: 2-17°, 3-20°, 4-22° in both left and right-handed

PDHY lofts: 2-18°, 3-20° and 4-22° in both left and right-handed

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