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It isn’t snobby to enjoy golf how you want to

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Being particular about something you enjoy because your resources are limited and you want to maximize them doesn’t make you a snob—it makes you an educated participant.

Golf has always struggled with the image of being snobby, and it’s easy to understand the basis of that stereotype: private clubs, the perceived cost associated with the game, the rules, proper etiquette, and dress codes all leave people with the impression that golf is “not for them.” I mean, how many movie bad guys are shown hitting putts into a glass in their office? Golf is used as a negative trope.

Recently, the idea of snobbery in golf has shifted to an internal one between groups firmly holding their ground on a point of view.

  • walkers vs. cart riders
  • architecture junkies vs. lush fairway seekers
  • bag tag Barrys vs. hidden gem travelers
  • persimmon & blades vs. modern gear
  • music vs. NO Music on the course

The list could go on…

Any one of these discussions usually ends up in finger-pointing and placing unfounded blame on the other group for not being smart enough to understand the other’s point of view, or not being “with it,” or “woke.” But what I believe we need to realize is golf as a whole is better when everyone enjoys it the way they want to, as long as it doesn’t impede on someone else’s ability to also enjoy the game—except slow play…nobody likes slow play. 

I, for one, am firmly on team pro-walkers, persimmon, music, and architecture, but it doesn’t mean I’m against the others, it’s just how I often choose to enjoy my time when I play. You can make great arguments on both sides of these issues, and even with my stated position, I’m willing to counter my own opinions

  • For example, having worked with people with disabilities in past work experience, I understand that mobility is a huge struggle for a lot of people. As the population ages, I’d much rather see someone out playing in a cart than not playing at all, and when I have to, or sometimes even when I don’t, I still enjoy taking a cart, especially when testing gear and carrying upwards of 20 clubs.
  • Course design is more important to me than overall conditioning, but if you are someone that only gets the opportunity to play every couple of weeks, I totally understand why you would want to play at a lush green course. My one and only counter-argument will be that as water use becomes more of an issue these traditional ideas might need to shift in certain geographic locations, but beyond that, play golf where you will have the most fun.
  • Persimmon to me is a way to remind myself how far we’ve come. It’s way better and more fun on particular courses from a classical era but so is mashing a drive with a 460cc driver. I love hunting for an old Cleveland Classic wood as much as I like finding out my new 3-wood is eight yards longer than my previous one. Technology helps everyone, and if you’d rather use modern gear vs. older stuff, I’m right there with you. Hitting it farther and being able to play your misses is a lot less frustrating, kinda like driving with an automatic transmission compared to a standard—something I can do but never really gotten the hang of. It’s just a different way to experience the same stretch of highway.

At the end of the day, golf is what you make it, whether it be a trip to a bucket list course walking with a caddie or a few beers in a cart, mashing drives at your local muni. Regardless of how “woke” you think you are or how much you just want to go out and just hit some shots, as golfers I think we need to accept that there is more than one way to play this game, and that’s truly what makes it great.

 

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Ryan Barath is a club-fitter & master club builder with more than 17 years of experience working with golfers of all skill levels, including PGA Tour players. He is the former Build Shop Manager & Social Media Coordinator for Modern Golf. He now works independently from his home shop and is a member of advisory panels to a select number of golf equipment manufacturers. You can find Ryan on Twitter and Instagram where he's always willing to chat golf, and share his passion for club building, course architecture and wedge grinding.

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  1. #1KuchFan

    Nov 4, 2019 at 9:15 am

    America needs carts to tote all the hippos around. That’s just a fact.

  2. Mike Grove

    Nov 3, 2019 at 6:30 am

    I do not like cart golf. Walking for me is a part of the game that I have loved for 50+ years. I have a friend who moved south years ago but comes back to Maine every summer, and he rides so I ride. Once he said, “Do you remember when we couldn’t afford to ride?” My response was that I always hated riding. It interferes with actually playing the game and interaction within the group. Walking down a fairway with friends is a wonderful memory. I no longer carry but will keep walking until I can’t – then I will stop playing. Yes, after all these decades I still play blades…

    • Tackling Dummy

      Nov 3, 2019 at 5:12 pm

      I like walking as well. It is a much better experience on the golf course and you are more immersed in the nature of the golf course. Not to mention it is way better to get the exercise.

    • Fritznw

      Nov 4, 2019 at 4:21 pm

      So you will stop playing when you can’t walk vs riding in a cart. I can’t understand that. I’m 53 and have bad osteoarthritis in both knees, I can’t walk a flat course without pain and swelling at the end of the round. I’ll proudly take a cart every time if it means I still get to play. I won’t quit until I’m 6 feet under.

  3. larrybud

    Nov 3, 2019 at 5:45 am

    Music affects other players. The other stuff doesn’t. Simple as that.

    • Dennis

      Nov 4, 2019 at 2:43 am

      Agree!

    • Scott

      Nov 7, 2019 at 2:47 pm

      100% agree. I have never heard any music on a course, for any length of time, that doesn’t become distracting. And when the people playing it roll up on me, it is very disrespectful.

      I love music. I have been in a band for most of my life, but there is a time and place for everything.

  4. Expat

    Nov 2, 2019 at 1:07 am

    I don’t care if someone uses a cart, but the game should be based around the walker first. Leave the US, and carts are the exception.

    As they should be. They are an assistive mechanism.

  5. Rich Douglas

    Nov 1, 2019 at 11:31 pm

    I’m fine with modern equipment. Most golfers can hit it anyway; they can use all the help they can get.

    Music? Shut it off or listen to earplugs.

    Course conditions? I’ll take an emphasis on design and acceptable conditions. But a good design doesn’t do any good if you don’t get a fair lie for a good shot, can’t get out of the bunkers, etc. A little of both, please.

    I’d rather walk, but if the course is wide open I’ll take a cart and speed through. I can play in less than 2 hours that way. If not, I’d prefer to walk. Used to carry, but I trolley it nowadays.

    I really don’t care about your bag tag from Torrey Pines. I used to play it for fifteen bucks, but I don’t need to show you a tag. Hidden gems? Love ’em.

  6. Iknowdonkeys

    Nov 1, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    Matt Kuchar sucks big donkey

  7. bobarino

    Nov 1, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    Music? Wear earbuds. If you play music at a course – or a driving range for that matter – that others can hear when it’s pretty evident that: (a) the vast majority of players aren’t taking music to the course; and (b) you’re presuming that others would want to listen to YOUR music, you MIGHT be a self-centered narcissist. Your solution: Get a swing simulator and play in your garage.

    “Woke” OMFG gimme a break…

    • Nack Jicklaus

      Nov 2, 2019 at 8:07 am

      I expect not to have to listen to someone else’s annoying music when I go to a golf course and pay good money to do so. When did that become a “thing” anyway? The older I get the more quiet I want I guess…

      • Mad-Mex

        Nov 2, 2019 at 8:56 pm

        I can only imagine if I took a speaker and played some Mariachi music LOUD what would happen? I agree with you guys, earbuds if you want to hear music…

    • Tackling Dummy

      Nov 3, 2019 at 5:15 pm

      I agree. If you want to listen to music use earbuds. Don’t play music that affects other people’s play on the course.

  8. Jeremy

    Nov 1, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    “Woke” seems like a huge stretch to be using in the context of this golf article … at least by it’s normal definition.
    Woke: alert to injustice in society, especially racism

  9. Dave

    Nov 1, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    Hey, Ryan, any opinion on modern balls that play nice with persimmon?

    • Ryan Barath

      Nov 1, 2019 at 9:07 pm

      The Wilson Staff Duo Professional is a Low Compression urethane that a lot of people like to use.

      I generally use the Titleist AVX, but I would say try whatever your current ball is and then experiment from there.

  10. ChipNRun

    Nov 1, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    I always find the “walking only” tribe to be interesting. Many courses mandate motorized golf carts, so what choice do golfers have? Will the walkers only skip golf rather than ride?

    Also, the increased number of residential development clubs means it can be 300 yards from the No. 3 green to No. 4 tee. Everybody needs a home along the fairway…

    Many of the residential developments have morphed into semi-private golf clubs: A core membership, a group that pays for a $500 card and golf for $X per round, and a good number of walk-ons with no real membership connection. Despite the fizzle of not becoming an upscale club, you still have 300 yards to walk from prior green to next tee.

    The older gentlemen I sometimes play with are above 70 years of age, and most couldn’t play if they had to walk up and down all the hills. My wife has knee trouble, and nine holes – while riding in a cart – is all she can handle.

    One of the telling remarks came from a very fit 40-something who trains for and runs in 10K races (about 7 miles in length). When I asked if he ever walks, he said no. For him golf is a separate fun activity, and he has a separate workout for his running.

    • Louis Christopher

      Nov 1, 2019 at 11:35 pm

      In mountainous areas or at modern monstrosities with cartoonishly long walks from green to tee, sure, take a cart. But in the Chicago area as well as any other state that was flattened out by glaciers, 90% of courses are walkable. Carts don’t really speed up play at these courses anyway because most people who take carts – at least in my 30+ years of playing the game – zoom all over the place chasing wayward shots and rarely hit greens. The amount of carts I play through every year as a walker is comical.

  11. MT

    Nov 1, 2019 at 2:39 pm

    Hell, I’ll play with anyone. Simple as that.

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Vincenzi’s 2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans betting preview

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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.

TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.

Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.

However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.

Past Winners at TPC Louisiana

  • 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
  • 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
  • 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
  • 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
  • 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
  • 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)

2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks

Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)

Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.

This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.

McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.

Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)

Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.

Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.

Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)

Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.

NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.

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Vincenzi’s 2024 LIV Adelaide betting preview: Cam Smith ready for big week down under

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After having four of the top twelve players on the leaderboard at The Masters, LIV Golf is set for their fifth event of the season: LIV Adelaide. 

For both LIV fans and golf fans in Australia, LIV Adelaide is one of the most anticipated events of the year. With 35,000 people expected to attend each day of the tournament, the Grange Golf Club will be crawling with fans who are passionate about the sport of golf. The 12th hole, better known as “the watering hole”, is sure to have the rowdiest of the fans cheering after a long day of drinking some Leishman Lager.  

The Grange Golf Club is a par-72 that measures 6,946 yards. The course features minimal resistance, as golfers went extremely low last season. In 2023, Talor Gooch shot consecutive rounds of 62 on Thursday and Friday, giving himself a gigantic cushion heading into championship Sunday. Things got tight for a while, but in the end, the Oklahoma State product was able to hold off The Crushers’ Anirban Lahiri for a three-shot victory. 

The Four Aces won the team competition with the Range Goats finishing second. 

*All Images Courtesy of LIV Golf*

Past Winners at LIV Adelaide

  • 2023: Talor Gooch (-19)

Stat Leaders Through LIV Miami

Green in Regulation

  1. Richard Bland
  2. Jon Rahm
  3. Paul Casey

Fairways Hit

  1. Abraham Ancer
  2. Graeme McDowell
  3. Henrik Stenson

Driving Distance

  1. Bryson DeChambeau
  2. Joaquin Niemann
  3. Dean Burmester

Putting

  1. Cameron Smith
  2. Louis Oosthuizen
  3. Matt Jones

2024 LIV Adelaide Picks

Cameron Smith +1400 (DraftKings)

When I pulled up the odds for LIV Adelaide, I was more than a little surprised to see multiple golfers listed ahead of Cameron Smith on the betting board. A few starts ago, Cam finished runner-up at LIV Hong Kong, which is a golf course that absolutely suits his eye. Augusta National in another course that Smith could roll out of bed and finish in the top-ten at, and he did so two weeks ago at The Masters, finishing T6.

At Augusta, he gained strokes on the field on approach, off the tee (slightly), and of course, around the green and putting. Smith able to get in the mix at a major championship despite coming into the week feeling under the weather tells me that his game is once again rounding into form.

The Grange Golf Club is another course that undoubtedly suits the Australian. Smith is obviously incredibly comfortable playing in front of the Aussie faithful and has won three Australian PGA Championship’s. The course is very short and will allow Smith to play conservative off the tee, mitigating his most glaring weakness. With birdies available all over the golf course, there’s a chance the event turns into a putting contest, and there’s no one on the planet I’d rather have in one of those than Cam Smith.

Louis Oosthuizen +2200 (DraftKings)

Louis Oosthuizen has simply been one of the best players on LIV in the 2024 seas0n. The South African has finished in the top-10 on the LIV leaderboard in three of his five starts, with his best coming in Jeddah, where he finished T2. Perhaps more impressively, Oosthuizen finished T7 at LIV Miami, which took place at Doral’s “Blue Monster”, an absolutely massive golf course. Given that Louis is on the shorter side in terms of distance off the tee, his ability to play well in Miami shows how dialed he is with the irons this season.

In addition to the LIV finishes, Oosthuizen won back-to-back starts on the DP World Tour in December at the Alfred Dunhill Championship and the Mauritus Open. He also finished runner-up at the end of February in the International Series Oman. The 41-year-old has been one of the most consistent performers of 2024, regardless of tour.

For the season, Louis ranks 4th on LIV in birdies made, T9 in fairways hit and first in putting. He ranks 32nd in driving distance, but that won’t be an issue at this short course. Last season, he finished T11 at the event, but was in decent position going into the final round but fell back after shooting 70 while the rest of the field went low. This season, Oosthuizen comes into the event in peak form, and the course should be a perfect fit for his smooth swing and hot putter this week.

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The Wedge Guy: What really makes a wedge work? Part 1

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Of all the clubs in our bags, wedges are almost always the simplest in construction and, therefore, the easiest to analyze what might make one work differently from another if you know what to look for.

Wedges are a lot less mysterious than drivers, of course, as the major brands are working with a lot of “pixie dust” inside these modern marvels. That’s carrying over more to irons now, with so many new models featuring internal multi-material technologies, and almost all of them having a “badge” or insert in the back to allow more complex graphics while hiding the actual distribution of mass.

But when it comes to wedges, most on the market today are still single pieces of molded steel, either cast or forged into that shape. So, if you look closely at where the mass is distributed, it’s pretty clear how that wedge is going to perform.

To start, because of their wider soles, the majority of the mass of almost any wedge is along the bottom third of the clubhead. So, the best wedge shots are always those hit between the 2nd and 5th grooves so that more mass is directly behind that impact. Elite tour professionals practice incessantly to learn to do that consistently, wearing out a spot about the size of a penny right there. If impact moves higher than that, the face is dramatically thinner, so smash factor is compromised significantly, which reduces the overall distance the ball will fly.

Every one of us, tour players included, knows that maddening shot that we feel a bit high on the face and it doesn’t go anywhere, it’s not your fault.

If your wedges show a wear pattern the size of a silver dollar, and centered above the 3rd or 4th groove, you are not getting anywhere near the same performance from shot to shot. Robot testing proves impact even two to three grooves higher in the face can cause distance loss of up to 35 to 55 feet with modern ‘tour design’ wedges.

In addition, as impact moves above the center of mass, the golf club principle of gear effect causes the ball to fly higher with less spin. Think of modern drivers for a minute. The “holy grail” of driving is high launch and low spin, and the driver engineers are pulling out all stops to get the mass as low in the clubhead as possible to optimize this combination.

Where is all the mass in your wedges? Low. So, disregarding the higher lofts, wedges “want” to launch the ball high with low spin – exactly the opposite of what good wedge play requires penetrating ball flight with high spin.

While almost all major brand wedges have begun putting a tiny bit more thickness in the top portion of the clubhead, conventional and modern ‘tour design’ wedges perform pretty much like they always have. Elite players learn to hit those crisp, spinny penetrating wedge shots by spending lots of practice time learning to consistently make contact low in the face.

So, what about grooves and face texture?

Grooves on any club can only do so much, and no one has any material advantage here. The USGA tightly defines what we manufacturers can do with grooves and face texture, and modern manufacturing techniques allow all of us to push those limits ever closer. And we all do. End of story.

Then there’s the topic of bounce and grinds, the most complex and confusing part of the wedge formula. Many top brands offer a complex array of sole configurations, all of them admittedly specialized to a particular kind of lie or turf conditions, and/or a particular divot pattern.

But if you don’t play the same turf all the time, and make the same size divot on every swing, how would you ever figure this out?

The only way is to take any wedge you are considering and play it a few rounds, hitting all the shots you face and observing the results. There’s simply no other way.

So, hopefully this will inspire a lively conversation in our comments section, and I’ll chime in to answer any questions you might have.

And next week, I’ll dive into the rest of the wedge formula. Yes, shafts, grips and specifications are essential, too.

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