Videos
Cast vs. Forged: David Edel explains the difference
David Edel tackles the age-old question: “What’s the difference between cast and forged.”
Enjoy the video below!
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Instruction
Clement: Why your practice swing never sucks
You hear that one all the time; I wish I could put my practice swing on the ball! We explain the huge importance of what to focus on to allow the ball to be perfectly in the way of your practice swing. Enjoy!
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Equipment
Mitsubishi Diamana WB: Club Junkie takes a technology deep dive
Earlier this week, Mitsubishi announced the return of its iconic Whiteboard profile with the new Diamana WB shaft.
In our launch story, we offered a rundown of the key technology in the new WB — 80-ton Dialead pitch fiber, Aerospace-grade MR70 carbon fiber, Consistent Feel Design, and the Xlink Tech Resin System. To go deeper, however, we enlisted our Resident Club Junkie and bona fide shaft nut, Brian Knudson, to track down someone from Mitsubishi at the PGA Show. Fortunately, Mitsubishi’s Director of Global Aftermarket Sales, Jonathan Alongi, was on hand to answer all of BK’s questions.
Check out their discussion about the new WB, as well as the 20th anniversary of the original design, in the video above — time stamps of key points below, including a definitive answer as to how the surfboard graphic ended up on the original Whiteboard in 2004!
- :40 – Mitsubishi Japan expands to the U.S. in 2004
- :50 – “The shaft that set the standard”
- 1:12 – “The ‘board is back”
- 1:45 – WB or Whiteboard? Or both?
- 1:55 – The first iteration of the sixth generation of Diamana
- 2:10 – Incorporating key technology from a 20-year journey
- 3:10 – Modifying the tip section for more ball speed
- 3:50 – Delivering ball speed in a low-launch, low-spin shaft
- 4:20 – Drilling down on the shaft profile compared to the original Whiteboard
- 5:00 – The most impressive element of the new WB
- 5:30 – Butt, mid, tip specifications
- 6:00 – WB’s iconic graphics and the Diamana legacy — flowers, surfboard, numbering system
- 8:15 – An abundance of available weights and flexes
- 8:55 – More players going lightweight
Check out more photos and see what GolfWRXers are saying about Mitsubishi WB in the forums.
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2024 Vokey SM10 wedges: Club Junkie’s full fitting video
Our Resident Club Junkie, Brian Knudson, goes through a wedge fitting with Chris Baingo, Titleist’s Club Fitting Analyst.
Get the full story on new SM10 wedges in our launch piece.
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Andy
Jul 7, 2018 at 9:56 pm
All he needed to simply say is that forged irons are created from a solid piece of metal. While cast irons are created by pouring molten metal into a mold and then let it solidify. The weighting in forged irons is smaller and closer to the center where the ball is hit, while the weighting in cast clubs is spread throughout the face.
bob
Jul 7, 2018 at 4:49 pm
Zinc die cast golf clubs would suffice for 95% of all golfers worldwide.. and the money saved going into golf lessons for one year.
Tom
Jul 7, 2018 at 7:08 pm
true, but there are a lot of ignorant posters on here
bob
Jul 7, 2018 at 10:24 pm
…. that and a partial golf set of 10 clubs maximum and no driver and long irons …. of course boys want the same club toys the pros play….
Fang
Jul 7, 2018 at 3:29 am
Transcript please
Mel Sole
Jul 6, 2018 at 12:50 pm
With a lot of video’s online, the sound quality is horrendous! I had my laptop’s volume turned to 100% and the video’s volume turned to 100% and I still could hardly hear. Not quite sure of the knowledge of Mr Edel as I could not hear him.
Bill Wood
Jul 5, 2018 at 2:42 pm
If this was supposed to convince people to buy Edel – unfortunately he blew this badly. Let’s get a redo from Mr. Edel shall we. There’s a ton of difference between cast the forged. Just try to bend a cast head sometime – they break. Yipes!
Bob Jones
Jul 5, 2018 at 2:09 pm
Didn’t really answer the question, did he?
giif
Jul 5, 2018 at 4:12 pm
He did in his mind; then he betrayed himself with his cynical answer. He knows impact feel is a crock. Golfers are intentionally confused by club marketing so they keep on buying the latest and greatest clubs for that elusive magical feel… and new toy status.
joey
Jul 5, 2018 at 10:45 pm
No he didn’t because the answer would upset golf marketing propaganda.
Tom
Jul 7, 2018 at 7:08 pm
spot on
gif
Jul 9, 2018 at 10:03 am
There’s a sucker born every minute… and there are more suckers per acre on a golf course than any where else in the world…. trying to have ‘fun’ (and break 100 legitimately)…. 😀
steve
Jul 5, 2018 at 1:53 pm
There’s ‘forged’ and there’s “forged”… and there’s a world of difference… like between hot forged or cold forged. Seems like a lot of OEMs are putting the word “forged” into the cast steel hosels to trick gullible golfers into thinking the whole clubhead is forged… when only the faceplate is cold roll forged. Then there is that “buttery” forged “feeel”…
Jamie
Jul 7, 2018 at 11:05 am
Doesn’t make the consumer gullible. It makes the manufacturer a den of fraudsters. Too bad that it’s too expensive financially and temporally to legally punish them anymore.
gif
Jul 9, 2018 at 10:07 am
You can scam more fools with fantasy than with the truth… because the truth is too painful and destroys delusionary ‘fun’… 😮
Loohooser
Jul 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm
“…… sigh……. I don’t know, so I won’t tell you, I know nothing about metallurgy or what content of chemicals and types of metals and compounds change the way the steel can be made to be soft or hard, how much carbon or molybdenum or manganese or whatever other alloy mix that’s required to make something feel soft or hard to make them either pourable for a mold or shapeable for forging and at temperatures, so don’t ask me, I’ll end up just making stuff up about how much I can bend my steels because they are soft……..”
What a loser. I’m never going to buy an Edel
SCOTT IVLOW
Jul 6, 2018 at 3:44 am
If a club head is molded it always going to be a cast iron. Forged irons start as block of metal.
Jeffrey
Jul 6, 2018 at 8:20 am
Forged irons start as a round metal bar called a Slug.
JThunder
Jul 5, 2018 at 1:01 pm
The title of the video should be “cast vs forged, David Edel makes random remarks and does not explain the difference”. Was he stoned?
I was seriously hoping he’d spout the same tired misinformation that has become the Golfwrx fairytale, “cast vs forged is all about sound, not feel”.
In case anyone doesn’t get it yet – if they sound different, it means they are vibrating differently. THAT is how sound is produced. If you don’t think your hands can feel different vibrations, you should seek medical help. Each hand contains 48 named nerves.
kevin
Jul 5, 2018 at 3:15 pm
except both a low solid thwack and a tingy high pitched sound both vibrate. so controlling those vibrations to effectively change the sound absolutely changes the opinion of feel. mizuno has stated this profusely.
k ayers
Jul 5, 2018 at 12:42 pm
If he thinks quenching a hot iron, or not, is the difference between casting and forging he is ignorant of the subject matter.
Tom
Jul 7, 2018 at 7:12 pm
yet he is in the business of club manufacturing and your not.
Jamie
Jul 5, 2018 at 12:13 pm
Cast and forged yawn. Subject is tired and unimportant.
2putttom
Jul 5, 2018 at 2:52 pm
for the “Forged in Fire” fans this is a big deal. Life revolves around technique, metallurgy and material. Never mind that some one who makes a living at designing and building clubs has an opposing opinion
gif
Jul 5, 2018 at 3:49 pm
… get a Life if your world revolves around cast or forged toys and the feeel you yearn for from your efforts…
2putttom
Jul 6, 2018 at 10:28 am
Exactly ! ..Dilly Dilly .
Jason
Jul 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm
That was the worst. Did somebody piss in this guy’s cornflakes or what?
Ben Jones
Jul 5, 2018 at 11:38 am
Didn’t look like he really wanted to discuss this topic because he kept looking down and away from the camera. There is a difference between forged and cast. Its called feel and touch. There are hot spots or gaps in cast irons that create inconsistency. True forged irons do not have hot spots.
gif
Jul 5, 2018 at 4:00 pm
That’s ludicrous…. and your “feel and touch” is nothing more than a shexually gratifying impact experience that only lasts for a fleeting moment .. 0.0005 seconds … lol
Shallowface
Jul 5, 2018 at 4:31 pm
I believe when someone hits a “hot spot” on a cast iron, what has actually happened is they hit the sweet spot for the first time in their life.
2putttom
Jul 6, 2018 at 10:31 am
ewwww, BAZINGA ! and it flies further and higher.
Ben Jones
Jul 6, 2018 at 11:30 am
And the short handle you use is indicative of what?
gif
Jul 9, 2018 at 10:10 am
gif = golf is foolish
ben jones
Jul 9, 2018 at 4:23 pm
Oh, I thought it was short for something else being short.