Equipment
Single-length irons go mainstream with Cobra’s new King F7, King Forged Tour
Since first hearing about Bryson DeChambeau and his unique clubs, surely you’ve considered — even just a little — trying single-length irons for yourself. Now, here’s your chance. For the first time ever, a mainstream equipment manufacturer will offer single-length irons. In fact, Cobra is releasing two different sets of single-length irons: the King Forged Tour One and the King F7 One Length.
DeChambeau’s technique, which combines a one-plane swing with irons and wedges that all measure the same length, has produced wins at the 2015 U.S. Amateur and NCAA Men’s Individual Championship, and was originally met with both skepticism and intrigue. But eventually — maybe since DeChambeau earned his PGA Tour card last month — even skeptics have become intrigued.
- Related: Bryson DeChambeau’s 2016 WITB
And just because you don’t have DeChambeau’s single-plane swing type doesn’t mean you can’t derive a benefit from the single-length system.
“I am proud to be at the forefront of this with Cobra, as preliminary research has shown that single-length sets can make the game easier and more enjoyable for players of all swing types,” DeChambeau said.
If the single-length concept isn’t your thing, however, both the King Forged Tour and King F7 irons will also be available in standard, progressive-length sets. All irons will be available for purchase on January 13.
DeChambeau currently has the one-length version of the King Forged Tour irons in his bag, which are designed for greater feel and precision, while the King F7 irons are made for more distance and forgiveness.
Learn more about the four sets of irons and specialty wedge options below.
King Forged Tour and King Forged One-Length
Both of the King Forged Tour heads are made using the same process and technologies, although the standard set uses length and head weight progression, while the one-length versions will have identical lengths, head weights, swing weights and lie angles.
Made from 1025 carbon steel, King Forged Tour irons are created using a five-step forging process to produce a soft feel that better players tend to enjoy.
“The King Forged One-Length irons are perfect for my game, allowing me to perform at the highest level,” DeChambeau said. “My preferred feel is a forging, which these irons deliver along with a more compact head and reduced offset design for trajectory and shot-shaping control.”
The irons have tungsten weighting in the soles of the lower lofted irons (4-7) for a lower center of gravity (CG) that helps to produce a higher launch angle and more distance. The 4-8 irons also have thermoplastic urethane (TPU) inserts behind their faces to dampen vibrations and therefore produce a better feel. The faces and grooves of the irons are 100 percent CNC-milled for more spin and trajectory control, according to Cobra, and the heads are nickel-chrome plated for durability.
King Forged Tour iron sets (4-PW, 3 iron and GW available through custom) are available in right-hand only. They come stock with KBS Tour FLT steel shafts (stiff or regular), Lamkin Crossline Black grips, and carry an MAP of $999.
King Forged One-Length irons sets (4-PW), which are made with 7-iron weighting and length throughout, and come stock with Lamkin Crossline ACE blue grips and KBS Tour FLT steel shafts (120 S-Flex and 110 R-Flex).
Cobra will also offer specialty 56-V and 60-V degree wedges, cast from 8620 carbon steel, in single-length. The wedges will come stock with KBS Tour FLT steel shafts and Lamkin Crossline ACE grips.
King F7 and King F7 One length
With the King F7 One Length irons, Cobra ensures that the single-length concept isn’t just for better players. They’re are made for higher-handicap golfers in need of more forgiveness and distance.
“The 2017 iron offering is COBRA’s most innovative and exciting yet,” said Tom Olsavsky, Head of R&D for COBRA Golf. “Not only have we improved our progressive sets this year, but we are introducing our first-ever One Length option that will help to bring more consistency and simplicity to the game of golf for all players. In 2017, we will truly have an innovative, high-quality iron solution for every type of player.”
Cobra’s line of King F7 irons use a progressive clubhead design, which the company calls “TECFLO,” to meet the specific performance needs of each irons. That means the long irons (3, 4, 5) have a full-hollow design, the mid irons (6 and 7) have a half-hollow construction and the short irons (8-PW) have a cavity-back design. The 3-7 irons are cast from 17-4 stainless steel and use a milled 17-4 stainless steel face insert, while the short irons are cast from 431 stainless steel.
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- Long iron, full-hollow construction
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- Mid iron, half-hollow construction
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- Short Iron, cavity-back construction
Each of the irons also uses what Cobra calls “PWRSHELL” technology, which means that the faces are made thinner and sole structures are designed to increase the size of the sweet spot, thus producing higher ball speeds more often.
Also available in the stock sets are King F7 hybrids (4-5h) — available in lofts between 22 and 25 degrees — and a specialty gap wedge for extra greenside control and versatility in the set.
The standard (progressive-length) King F7 irons will be available in right and left-handed and come stock with Lamkin REL-Black grips, Fujikura Pro 63i (graphite: stiff, regular or lite) or True Temper King F7 (steel: stiff or regular) shafts for the following prices:
- $699 (5-PW, GW): Graphite available for $799 through custom only
- $799 (4-5h and 6-PW, GW): Combo Set, Steel shaft
- $899 (4-5h and 6-PW, GW): Combo Set, Graphite
The King F7 One-Length irons (5-PW, GW) have the same head technologies as the King F7 irons, but are re-engineered so each iron has a 7-iron length. They will come stock with Lamkin REL-Blue grips and True Temper King F7 ($699 steel: stiff or regular) or Fujikura Pro 63i ($799 graphite: stiff, regular, lite) shafts in both right and left-handed options, available in custom only.
Related: Our review of Sterling Single-Length irons
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- Richy Werenski what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Houston Open.
Driver: Titleist TSR3 (10 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana PD 60 TX
3-wood: Titleist TSR2 (15 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Red 8 X
Hybrid: Titleist TSR3 (19 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White Hybrid 90 TX
Irons: Titleist T100 (4-9)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 105 S
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F, 50-12F), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (54-M, 58-L @60)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Onyx (46-50), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 Onyx (54-60)
Putter: Scotty Cameron prototype
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x Left Dash
Grips: Golf Pride ZGrip Cord
Check out more in-hand photos of Richy Werenski’s clubs in the forums.
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Equipment
Adam Scott testing green “Masters Use Only” putter + 6 interesting equipment photos from the 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
Welcome to the 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson event at TPC Craig Ranch in McKinney, Texas, which, for your geographical reference, is about 25 minutes from Dallas.
In early-week equipment news, we saw some interesting putter testing from Adam Scott, a Maxfli golf ball signing on the PGA Tour, a 16-year-old’s WITB, a PGA Tour player using another PGA Tour player’s backup putter, and Jordan Spieth weighed in on why he recently switched out just his 7-iron (and then made a hole-in-one with it).
With so much to report and so little time to waste on the intro, let’s get right into this week’s equipment rundown from the CJ Cup Byron Nelson.
See all of our photo galleries from the week here
Adam Scott’s new L.A.B. putters
Before we get into a couple of the new prototypes Scott has been testing, above is a photo of the L.A.B. Golf Mezz.1 Max prototype putter that he’s been using, and will likely continue to use this week in Texas.
That being said, following the Masters, Scott was looking to try a couple putters with a slightly lighter weight to help with his feel on fast greens.
One of the new prototypes we spotted on Tuesday was a L.A.B. Golf DF3 “Proto 2.1”, custom-built with Scott’s preferred blue colorway, and an Australia-inspired Kangaroo laser engraving…
We also spotted him with a green-colored “For Masters Use Only” Mezz.1 Max prototype…
While it’s unlikely Scott will make a switch this week, it’s certainly something to keep an eye on going forward, especially on courses with faster greens.
We also got a peek into Scott’s full WITB this week, which consists of a super-mixed set of Srixon irons, including a ZX Utility 3-iron, a ZX-5 MkII 4-iron, ZX-7 MkII mid-irons (5-7) and Z Forged II short irons (8-9).
See Scott’s full WITB from the CJ Cup here
An update on Daniel Berger’s Odyssey Jailbird
Last week in New Orleans, we highlighted Daniel Berger’s Ai-One Jailbird Mini putter because of its unique sightlines.
Well, we have an update.
According to Callaway Tour Manager Joe Toulon, who spoke with GolfWRX.com this week, Berger’s Jailbird Mini is actually from fellow Tour player Tom Kim’s stash. Kim is a prolific putter tester, and the exact putter Berger is currently using was actually originally made for and tested by Kim. The putter didn’t make it into Kim’s starting lineup, however, so he gave the putter back to Odyssey, and it eventually made it’s way onto Berger’s gamer roster.
Jordan Spieth’s new 7-iron
As the story goes, Jordan Spieth changed out his Titleist T100 7-iron on Wednesday before the 2024 Valero Texas Open, and then on Thursday, he used the 7-iron to make a hole-in-one from 199 yards on the 16th hole.
Good timing on that switch, Jordan.
On Tuesday at the 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson, GoflWRX.com caught up with Spieth to get the full story on why he switched just the 7-iron.
Our full story is over on PGATOUR.com’s Equipment Report, but here’s a snippet of what Spieth had to say:
“I hit my 7-iron a lot, especially on my own. The spin rates, relative to my 6-iron and my 8-iron, were lower, so it was going too far. I was trying to figure out why, if it was something in the makeup of the iron. I got the lies and the lofts checked, and everything was fine. So finally I was like, ‘Can I just get a new one and see if it fixes it?’
“Maybe there was one other time throughout my career where I changed just one iron, so it’s very unusual. I think it’s just because the grooves were worn down from hitting it too much.”
Ben Griffin signs with Maxfli to play the golf ball
At the beginning of the year, LPGA Tour star Lexi Thompson signed a deal with Maxfli to play the company’s golf ball, and now, Griffin has officially joined team Maxfli, as well, thus expanding the company’s Tour presence.
GolfWRX.com caught up with Griffin on Wednesday in Texas for a video interview about his new golf ball of choice, and how he marks it…
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A 16-year-old is playing on the PGA Tour this week, using a 2-iron!
Amateur golfer Kris Kim, at just 16 years of age, is making his PGA Tour debut this week after receiving a sponsors exemption into the event. In 2023, Kim won both the R&A Boys’ Amateur Championship and the European Boys’ International Championship.
On Tuesday in Texas, we got a look into Kim’s bag, which revealed that he’s currently playing a TaylorMade P-770 2-iron, and a bag full of TaylorMade clubs.
Check out Kim’s full WITB here
A smart golf ball stamping
I’m not going to sit here and pretend to be a big math guy, because I’m not. However, I do recognize David Nyfjall’s purple ball marking as a square root symbol.
While I don’t know the particular significance of the square root symbol for Nyfjall, I do know you have to be fairly intelligent to even consider using a marking like that. Pretty cool stuff from the Northwestern alum, and 2023 Byron Nelson Award winner.
And, with that, we say goodbye to Texas and TPC Craig Ranch. We’ll see you next week at the Wells Fargo Championship in Charlotte for more insider equipment news and storylines.
For now, don’t forget to check out all of our photos from the 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
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- Wesley Bryan what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Byron Nelson.
Driver: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond Max (9 degrees @10)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana GT 50 TX
3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth Plus (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana GT 60 X
Hybrid: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus Rescue (19.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus HB Blue 8 X
Irons: Titleist T200 (4), Takomo 101U (4), Takomo 101T (5), Takomo 301 CB (6-9)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (46-10F, 52-08F, 56-14F), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (58-A)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF3
Grips: SuperStroke, Golf Pride Tour Velvet
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x
More photos of Wesley Bryan’s WITB in the forums.
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Dave Portnoy places monstrous outright bet for the 2024 Masters
John Daly stuns fans into silence with brutal opening tee shot on PGA Tour Champions
Justin Thomas on the equipment choice of Scottie Scheffler that he thinks is ‘weird’
Things got heated at the Houston Open between Tony Finau and Alejandro Tosti. Here’s why
Tiger Woods arrives at 2024 Masters equipped with a putter that may surprise you
‘Absolutely crazy’ – Major champ lays into Patrick Cantlay over his decision on final hole of RBC Heritage
Report: Tiger Woods has ‘eliminated sex’ in preparation for the 2024 Masters
Two star names reportedly blanked Jon Rahm all week at the Masters
2-time major champ announces shock retirement from the sport at age of 33
Report: LIV Golf identifies latest star name they hope to sign to breakaway tour
Richy Werenski WITB 2024 (May)
Richy Werenski what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Houston Open. Driver: Titleist TSR3 (10 degrees, D1...
Wesley Bryan WITB 2024 (May)
Wesley Bryan what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Byron Nelson. Driver: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Triple...
Adam Scott WITB 2024 (May)
Adam Scott what’s in the bag accurate as of the 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson. Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (10.5 degrees)...
Pierceson Coody WITB 2024 (April)
Driver: TaylorMade Qi 10 (9 degrees) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 70 TX 3-wood: TaylorMade Qi 10 Tour (15 degrees)...
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Oct 19, 2016 at 6:29 pm
Critics be damned, I will be ordering a set of Cobra single length irons as soon as they can fit me and take the order. These irons, and the philosophy, just make sense to me. It is a different, more refined, iteration of a past idea. I get that, but this version looks better and I am sure will play better. I will be happy to play with them. I will be more consistent, my distances and gaps will be within a few yards of my current numbers, my back won’t hurt as much, I will be able to practice more.
For years players used hickory shafts, then steel took over. Forged clubs were the rage, then perimeter weighing come in to being. Grips used to be leather. Woods were actually made of wood, now we use titanium and other materials in “woods”. Things change and I am willing to make this change, for the betterment of my game.
Toad37
Nov 11, 2016 at 7:21 pm
Consider comparing the Wishons as well. They may be more refined.
Dave r
Oct 15, 2016 at 10:04 pm
Every consumer should be fitted, it would show that the club makers care about their product and would be a way to promote their equipment to joe public.
Jim
Oct 12, 2016 at 6:18 pm
If GSmith still offers the 90 day return policy, wait about 3 or 4 weeks before buying, cause 90+% of these will be returned. Guaranteed….. you’ll save a bunch of money getting ’em ‘barely used’
300 Yard Pro
Oct 25, 2016 at 4:48 am
Taylormade will be releasing a set. All driver length.
Lee
Oct 12, 2016 at 2:56 pm
Not gonna happen if they were any good the Tour guys would be bagging them.
DeChambeau he’s the guy without a Tour card isn’t he?
300 Yard Pro
Oct 13, 2016 at 5:53 pm
Dechambeau has a tour card. Where’s yours?????
Boobsy McKiss
Oct 12, 2016 at 1:54 pm
Bryson secured his PGA card in September. I wonder if Cobra would have come out with these if he had not secured his PGA card?
Man
Oct 12, 2016 at 2:18 pm
Either way it’s a moot point since he did succeed and it helps to sell more of these now
Boobsy McKiss
Oct 13, 2016 at 1:52 am
True, but it would be nice to know if they actually put real r&d into this thing, or just slapped some gimmicky clubs together last moment, after he made the cut.
Richard Seepaul
Oct 12, 2016 at 1:02 pm
After, signing Bryson DeChambeau were they going to force him to switch to “traditional” OEM one size fits all swing weight matched variable club length Irons. Nope
Bryson don’t play “dat” just like Homey.
Only logical “Don’t piss Bryson Off strategy” would be “Lets try and sell single length to the great unwashed”,which brings us to where this is going.
Funny how OEMs spend thousands trying to obliterate independent club builders from the planet but are now embracing what the indies have been saying all along. Who says you can’t re-invent the wheel you just need to re-brand it.
Bryson better start winning fast.
The Real Swanson
Oct 12, 2016 at 11:44 am
I’m 6′ 4″ and have always been a good long iron player who’s struggled with the shorter clubs. I’ll certainly want to try these out. One thing that’s surprised me is how no manufacturer has ever offered a compromise between these and standard with 1/4″ gaps between irons.
Jim
Oct 12, 2016 at 6:14 pm
You’d be a candidate for MOI fitting using 10mm gaps from the 6 iron instead of half inch….also, if your inseam is over 35″ – you should be using longer clubs – no matter what (whatever part of) your hand to floor measurement is.
Tim
Oct 13, 2016 at 12:43 pm
I’m 6’3″ with a 36″ inseam. I’m playing my Pinhawk SL irons (4-LW) at 37-1/2″ right now. I’m hitting my short irons and wedges much better than I did before (my old 7-iron was 37-3/4″). I don’t think I’ll ever want to go back to traditional 1/2″ steps again.
Tim
Oct 11, 2016 at 9:53 pm
I’ve been using a set of Pinhawk SL single length irons and I’ve been much more comfortable with them. My short game has improved with the “long” short irons and I’m hitting my long irons straighter. Gapping and distance has been almost identical to my old set. The only real difference I’m seeing so is that my 4-iron launches a little lower and rolls out a bit more (because it’s a 3-iron loft). I’d like to see the lofts on these to see how they compare to the Pinhawk SL lofts (weaker in the short irons and stronger in the long irons).
Tim
Oct 13, 2016 at 12:55 pm
I found the lofts on another site. What’s interesting is that the Forged One lofts are not cranked up at all in the longer irons and not weaker in the short irons. The lofts are identical to my Adam’s CB3 Forged clubs which are fairly traditional. This tells me that the combination of head weight, technology and KBS FLT shafts is enough to get these clubs to perform with proper gaps/distance or they won’t work (for the average person).
Tim
Oct 13, 2016 at 1:18 pm
Upon further review, the listed lofts on the KING FORGED ONE LENGTH clubs are identical to the variable length KING FORGED TOUR irons. This is interesting because most single length clubs (and studies) have adjusted lofts to get the desired distances and gaps. Looking forward to head to head testing with these clubs. On paper you would expect the SL long irons to be shorter and the SL short irons to be longer. Maybe the heavier (than standard) SL long iron heads increase the smash factor on the long irons while the lighter (than standard) SL heads decrease smash the factor, thus offsetting the effect of the longer/shorter shafts? If it were that simple…
Realist
Oct 11, 2016 at 4:18 pm
I think for the average weekend warrior, these will be huge improvements. Studies have proven that shorter sticks equate to more sweet spot and better control. Distance will come with confidence. I think this is great for the industry. Waiting for taylormade to release 58 new iron models with this “revolutionary technology”
Jim
Oct 12, 2016 at 11:29 pm
Hahaha! like when they had – what – like 7 different hybrid models out 2007-8 (?)…at least when Adams did that they were on a mission to ‘shape’ a hybrid for every eye (as they were still ‘new’ and most tour players didn’t want to be caught dead using one…
Kourt
Oct 11, 2016 at 4:14 pm
I play Tom Wishons sterling single length irons. Had them custom fit with project x 6.5 shafts at 8 iron length (36.5) Im a scratch golfer and find these extremely easy and fun to play. These are more game improvement club heads and my old set were the ben hogan ft worth 15 blades. I dont see any difference in workability or control compared to a standard progressive length set. if anything workability is easier because ball positions are the same for every club. So if I want a lower draw i just play it an inch or two back. People may not jump on board but it recommend trying them. my iron play has improved a lot and it alreaday was a strength of my game. whats surprising is i hit my 5,6,7 irons further and more accurate than I hit my conventional set. and when you are hitting greens from 200+ more often you will score better. I haven’t enjoyed the longer length sw though. I stopped my set at gap wedge and use a standard sw and lw i just think they have much better options for sole grind and shape than the matching sw from the single length offers.
Nh
Oct 12, 2016 at 1:16 pm
You hit those Wishon SL long irons better and farther because the faces, steel and construction of the long irons are different to the shorter irons.
Jim
Oct 12, 2016 at 11:40 pm
Hahaha! like when they had – what – like 7 different hybrid models out 2007-8 (?)…at least when Adams did that they were on a mission to ‘shape’ a hybrid for every eye (as they were still ‘new’ and most tour players didn’t want to be caught dead using one…
Marco
Oct 13, 2016 at 4:30 am
This is the same experience i was made. Im also a scratch player with a good iron game.
Improved the iron game with the SL irons. I made a custom Set from Epon forged clubs.
Same thing here…hit the 6,7,8 irons further than before (8 iron shaft). 4 and 5 iron same distance.
Wedges also 8 iron shafts with Callaway PM grind. To master this one was definitely the hardest part of the switch.
Mark
Oct 11, 2016 at 2:44 pm
I predict a flop shot with these. Retailers will be very cautious in putting these on the shelves.
300 Yard Pro
Oct 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm
Retail is dead anyways. They all need to go out of business.
B
Oct 11, 2016 at 2:04 pm
Did they hire Nike club designers or something? Why do these heads look like the Vapors? OK so we all know where Nike got their design, from the John Riley designs from 30 years ago, but why make it look so similar? So sad.
Greg V
Oct 11, 2016 at 1:07 pm
One kook comes out on Tour playing single length irons, and now these are going to be the next big thing?
Color me skeptical.
Steve
Oct 11, 2016 at 12:53 pm
I like the idea of a combo set made up of SL 5-7 and progressive length 8-AW
AC
Oct 11, 2016 at 11:44 pm
dead on…. in fact, thats exactly what i will looking at ordering
dapadre
Oct 12, 2016 at 5:24 am
Steve, this is a good idea but you can actually do this yourself with these. You can order separately.
60degreelobwedge
Oct 12, 2016 at 1:02 pm
yes. I have never wanted longer short irons but would love shorter long irons.
Blake
Oct 11, 2016 at 12:35 pm
Its not gonna fix a terrible swing or not being able to control the face. Ill be seeing a lot of these on ebay soon.
300 Yard Pro
Oct 13, 2016 at 7:46 pm
60 million golfers on earth. 90% of them can’t break 100. Must be why Ebay is so full of barely used clubs.
Darrin
Oct 11, 2016 at 11:43 am
This is nice to see, I think the market is just about ready for these. The EQL was not in the same realm as these, just a plain ole cavity back, built to be a 6 iron length, which is now pretty much out of the average hack’s bag. I think this will work. On the other side of it, I’ll also be waiting patiently for the clearance sale so I can get some.
DeadFish
Oct 11, 2016 at 11:21 am
All I can say is, it is about time. A mainstream single length iron is what golf needed. If it fails, it will finally prove the critics right. If it succeeds, it could change the game. The problem has always been putting out a mainstream product that fits most golfers. Cobra finally did it. They hear and know what the average consumer does and wants, and this plays right to their tune. Consumers aren’t always going to get fitted, and these don’t require one. That sets them apart from every other version of Single Length clubs out there. You can literally buy these off the shelf. While that upsets a lot of folks, we must face the reality that, that is what occurs more times than not.
Now we wait and see what happens. I predict an initial surge and rush to Single Length clubs with the hopes of getting better at ball striking. The rush will jump start other OEMs to build Single Length sets as well. I think SL clubs will be cobra’s number 1 seller initially. For those that don’t like the concept a lot of 1 time used SL clubs will show up in stores as well at heavy discounts.
Clay
Oct 11, 2016 at 11:49 am
Why would single length irons not require a fitting? A 5’6 golfer does not have the same length or lie 7 iron as a 6’5 golfer so why would they use the same length SL irons that are made to 7I specs? SL irons are not for me, but for the people who do want them I would still suggest a fitting.
Bwall
Oct 11, 2016 at 12:27 pm
He never said they didn’t require a fitting. He simply stated that most people don’t get fit, and that those people would be able to buy off the shelf.
Bobtrumpet
Oct 11, 2016 at 12:43 pm
“Consumers aren’t always going to get fitted, and these don’t require one.”
He said both.
Bwall
Oct 11, 2016 at 5:36 pm
My bad, maybe I misinterpreted his words. I thought he was referring to the fact that you have to be fitted for the Wishon Sterling irons. Even online, you have to send in your specs or do a wrist to floor assessment while providing an estimated swing speed.
DeadFish
Oct 12, 2016 at 8:25 am
I was actually. You are correct. It is a huge deal to offer a set of Single Length clubs that don’t require a fitting. Especially when most consumers don’t get fitted. I was referring to how other SL irons require a fitting and these do not.
That is going to be a big deal.
DeadFish
Oct 12, 2016 at 8:30 am
The reason why they would not require a fitting is simple… Most consumers don’t get fitted.
I understand your reasoning and that same reasoning applies to traditional irons as well. People who are 5’6 still buy off the shelf traditional length irons and don’t get fitted. So it is no different with a single length set. The difference is, as Bwall picked up on, when you look at other SL irons that DO require a fitting, the Cobra set has the opportunity to really excel. That is because they don’t require one.
It doesn’t mean consumers shouldn’t get fitted.
Jim
Oct 12, 2016 at 11:54 pm
That’s ridiculous! Of course they need to be fitted! Wtf? The cats here writing about theirs were all fitted personally by a clubmaker – who was obviously well studied and experienced. This ain’t the Golfsmith Sat club builder…
so, a standard 9iron is 64°…do we not change that for golfers with long legs, tall, short?! How bout the HUNDREDs of people that’ve come to me after a ‘sales caddie’ fit them into 4° uprite clubs because they were all RIGHT HAND CHOP swings that pushed the toe so far down 5’7″ 24 hcp golfers being told a 4° up club will fix that!?
too many models, too many truly bad “fittings” done to “fix” – flat out shitty swings – this will further help keep golf down!
The concept only works when THE FIRST IRON IS FIT RIGHT! A guy 6’2 w/36″ inseem (all legs) should have a different length baseline than a 6’2 “Thorpedo” build…
and Bryson’s a kook. “FELL & LOOKS DON’T MATTER”….
THAT’s a very rare bird…
Gerald Teigrob
Aug 4, 2019 at 8:06 pm
I was turned off to the single length irons from PGX, and see myself as a traditional junkie. Having to constantly look at the numbers without wondering what club I am using has been interesting enough without the single length challenge. I will always be a variable-length player and I am not as much into the science of it like Bryson. I don’t see a reason to market single length unless it’s everyone’s cup of tea.
Joergensen
Oct 11, 2016 at 11:11 am
Single length irons sounds to me like a solution looking for a problem. I mean, I can easy see the benefit of hitting more similar clubs. Single length irons is however only addressing the smallest part of the problem. Most golfers can easily hit their progressive length irons from around 6 thru PW. The real problem is adjusting to the longer shafts of longer clubs, hybrids and woods. That problem still remains with single length irons.
Feel the Bern
Oct 11, 2016 at 8:47 am
I wonder if, eventually, they will limit the COR on the faces of these irons to control their performance. As I understand, that is how they adjust the distance control on the irons, along with loft (obviously).
dr bloor
Oct 11, 2016 at 11:50 am
Irons are already subject to the same COR limits as metal woods.