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FTF: Are you Team Scotty or Team Bettinardi?
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Team Scotty vs. Team Betti
One of golf equipment’s eternal debates: Are you a Scotty Cameron loyalist or a Bettinardi enthusiast? The two biggest names in premium putter manufacturing each have their own cult followings with their own rationales for devotion. Both brands produce phenomenal flatsticks. But where do your loyalties lies?
Talk it out, find brothers-in-arms in this thread.
Display your divot tool
User TheSean beings this thread facetiously: “I need to up my divot tool game for ultra low scores. What are y’all gaming?” Now, TheSean is right to identify the strong correlation between a a sweet divot-repairing device and birdies galore because, as we all know, the subconscious mind will compel a player to hit more greens so that he makes more ball marks and thus needs to show off the tool more often… But really, some awesome tools in this thread.
Check them out: And while you’re at it, ponder why we don’t call them “ball mark tools.”
Wearing out forged irons
User Bigmean poses the question: “For you guys that wear out the faces of forged sets…how many freaking balls do you hit?” Great question. We’ve all seen the photos of Tiger’s iron from 2005. How many thousands of balls does it take to get to that point (admittedly with more varied distribution than the Striped One, most likely)?
Stolen club odyssey (not to be confused with “stolen club: Odyssey”) and disenchantment with the game
User UTkochster leads off a long-read of a forum post with how having his clubs stolen from the trunk of his car (understandably) derailed his hard-won progress as a golfer. The club theft inspired/coincided with a general disenchantment with the game for the American expat living in the UK, as the elite world of membership in private clubs irked him.
His points are worth considering, and the responses worth reading, because they are representative of what industry consultants have been saying: The perception of exclusivity (even though rounds at private clubs make up only a small portion of annual rounds played) hurts the game.
Equipment
Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:
“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.
I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.
I am currently looking Callaway’s CB12 and Cleveland’s CBZ. Anyone have thoughts on these? Or recommendations of other wedges that I should check out?”
And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- boggyman: “CBZs are amazing wedges!”
- drewbens: “Agreed, the Cleveland CB wedges are great! Already had a CBX Full Face 2 54 and recently added a 50 and 58 (for well under $100 a piece). Was chipping so well last week that my brother-in-law asked if the wedges were legal. Definitely underrated wedges for those of us that are not scratch golfers.”
- BogeyTed: “Get Cleveland CBX/CBZ. Very underrated clubs.”
Entire Thread: “Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:
“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.
I am short in stature, as well as a very short wrist to floor of 30.5″. I went down a rabbit hole of wanting to try irons 1″ shorter of more than standard length. Given the shorter lengths, the swingweights would be super light unless I added back a ton of weight to the heads, but I don’t like adding an extreme amount of weight back to the heads, so I decided to compensate with heavier shafts (115 grams instead of 95). Played with this set for a while and was hitting all irons extremely poorly. Thin, fat, right, right, left. My swing didn’t deteriorate that much because I was hitting my driver well, woods well, etc.
Went back to my older set of irons, playing at standard length, and my iron play improved immediately. Since then, have been doing more testing, while paying more attention to different possible variables. What I have found is I actually prefer lighter total weight with relatively normal or slightly heavier swingweights. Did a recent fitting and found that 85 gram shafts were better for me than 95 grams with standard length and relatively standard swingweights.
Still trying to dial in a final iron shaft choice, so have a few contenders that I will be testing. Will be moving away from my current Steelfiber i95 S parallel to lighter and softer
- MMT 80 parallel R – worked pretty well in a limited number of swings at a fitting
- Fujikura Travil 85 R – the fitter liked the Axiom 95 R for me at Club Champion, but i didn’t love the effort required to swing them. If there was a 85 Axiom, that would probably have been a great fit. So i am going try a Travil 85 R which is japan only
- Steelfiber i80 CW R – i have been playing Steelfibers for a long time, so need to give one Steelfiber shaft a shot
Given I do club building work, I am going to build all of these shafts with the All-Fit universal iron adapters to pair with a Srixon 7 iron head for testing. With these adapters, there isn’t a swingweight issue because the amount of weight from drilling out is about equivalent to the universal adapter components.”
And our members have been sharing their reactions in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Mikey_HACKilroy: “That length cut costs you a fair amount in swing points. I’d posit the length mattered more than the weight because a 115g shaft isn’t going to actually add enough back after cutting an inch off. Does it mean 115 would ultimately work? Hard to say. Maybe try a 1/2″ cut and add 2g to the head to compensate assuming the 7i is 37″ long. Maybe that will feel better. It translates to the same ~D2 you’re swinging at with the 95g shafts (estimated based on common weight, but you can weigh your parts on your own obviously).”
- Stuart_G: “Your process is good – keep at it and trust it.”
Entire Thread: “I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react
A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.
The original version of the brand’s Secret Weapon launched in January of 2025, with the second version also featuring four distinct weight ports in the head and coming with 13-degree of loft.
In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- DTorres: “Kinda looks like the face on the new one might be slightly deeper. Little bit more rounded leading edge.”
- snagy2000: “The current version is REALLY good, long…This one looks like they’re bringing some lightning tech to it…”
- SEP1006: “Agree with this, hard to tell from that angle but looks like the face may be the same as the Lightning. If that’s the case may have to give this a serious look. Absolutely love my 2wd which is also a 13* loft. But that Lightning Tour Mid Driver face is hot and forgiving.”
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tlmck
Sep 26, 2016 at 4:43 am
Queen Bee 6 for me.
Randy
Sep 23, 2016 at 8:10 pm
One word PIRETTI!!!!
Brandon
Sep 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm
Many other great putter makers out there as well. I rolling a custom tp mills right now. Bought on ebay for $200.00 its a anser 4/ newport 2.5 or 1.5 style with a welded flow neck. I was looking this similar putter style on the bay found the tp mills and it was only 20 minutes from my house. also already had my initials on the toe and Mills spelled his name with two upside down 7 7 for the LL in mills and 7-7 is my birthday. Crazy the chances of that. Stars were aligned in my favor that day. Byron Morgan putter company in California also making awesome putters. You can order a German stainless steel probably 1/6 the price of a Cameron. And lets not forget Tad Moore knows a thing or two about milled putters. Karsten Solheim started it but Scotty real did make the designs alot more precise. Dont like the milled ping putters ping has out today grips always come crooked and just seems to be a lack of quality control. Ping should invest in a more custom putter part to there factory probably sell alot more of them.
Ty Webb
Sep 23, 2016 at 11:24 am
Neither!!! Unless they’re tour grade, store bought are crap!
KoreanSlumLord
Sep 23, 2016 at 10:26 am
Been on both Team Bettinardi and Scotty at one time or another. But now Im back on Team Wilson 8802 for the last 5 years, putting is best it’s ever been. Clean, elegant lines, with amazing feel. The putter will tell you if you can roll the rock. Catch it!
RAT
Sep 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm
I’m also one who has both but I not use the 8802 it’s far better than either of the others !! Try one you will switch. The balance ,feel and distance with less swing effort is something the others can’t match. Consider , it goes farther with less effort and has a much better feel.
The Whammer
Sep 24, 2016 at 4:47 pm
If your path is straight-back to straight-through, none of this 8802 stuff applies to you.
Dolph Lundgrenade
Sep 23, 2016 at 10:07 am
Bettinardi for me. But, I’m just interested in creative putter design, effect or not. What i game and what I like to window shop or oggle at are two different things. I game a Bettinardi now but could use a Low Tide or even some new Odyssey designs as well. Scotty is a cult thing now and his designs are lame.
Tom
Sep 23, 2016 at 10:38 am
Agreed