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Why Ping is sending Ketsch putter owners $30

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If you bought a Ping Ketsch putter, good news: Ping wants to send you “a gift of $30.” The bad news? The putter grooves were deeper than expected.

The full statement of Ping Chairman & CEO John A. Solheim, below.

“In the highly-praised Ketsch putter, which is widely used on Tours around the world, our internal team recently determined the grooves in the face technology are deeper than intended. As a result, we suspended production and shipments of the putter. Today, we are announcing the Ketsch putter is returning to production and will soon be available with new grooves.

Since this affects all Ketsch putters (standard and counter-balanced), we are providing current owners of the putter a gift of $30. Ketsch putters currently available for purchase at golf shops (shipped by PING before production was suspended) are eligible for the gift. Details on how to receive the gift will be communicated over the coming weeks.

We are also confirming all Ketsch putters conform to the Rules of Golf. As a company built on standing behind the technology and performance of its products, we thank our customers for their continued loyalty and support.”

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  1. aidan

    Nov 1, 2014 at 7:19 am

    any updates on what the difference in performance will be. nothing on pings website???

    • Groundhog

      Jan 10, 2015 at 9:31 am

      Where is the $30.00 I keep sending emails to Ping and all they say is the website for refund is not yet set up.

  2. Bobby

    Aug 25, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Who cares? I am draining putts from everywhere with this thing. Grooves Schmooves…I will take $30 though 🙂

    • James

      Sep 7, 2014 at 1:39 pm

      Well Said.. As long as the grooves are legal

  3. Paul

    Aug 23, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Is this offer available in the UK?

  4. MHendon

    Aug 20, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    If it works, why sweat the small stuff.

  5. DigiBurdie

    Aug 19, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    damn i bought one last night, saw this today. at least i’ll get the $30. but still confused .. is this a defect? advantage/disadvantage? conforming? illegal?

  6. Ketsch CB owner

    Aug 19, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    I just received my custom ordered CB Ketsch putter. If Ping is willing to give us $30 because the grooves are deeper then they had intended, does that mean the putter will lack in performance when compared to the yet to be released Ketsch 2?
    I would like to believe if there is a performance issue with the grooves, Ping would honor all those who purchased the Ketsch, with the Ketsch 2.
    Can any Ping representatives touch on this??

    • Ping Player

      Dec 23, 2014 at 8:22 pm

      The ketsch is still the best putter out there, even with the grooves. The new one will probably just be more forgivable.

  7. bobbycj

    Aug 19, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    I’m so confused. I bought one 6 weeks ago. Are the grooves non-conforming ? Do they give an added advantage ? Disadvantage ? I make tons of putts with mine.

    • Zak Kozuchowski

      Aug 19, 2014 at 9:53 pm

      The grooves are 100% conforming.

  8. enrique

    Aug 19, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    In a related story, “Deep Groove OG Ketcsh” putters are now selling on BST for Cameron 009 money.

  9. markb

    Aug 19, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    I own a Ketsch and its grooves are very deep. While this doesn’t impact USGA conformity, what super deep grooves do is negate any supposed effect of Ping’s touted variable-depth-grooved True Roll technology. Meaning, if all your grooves are too deep everywhere, you will see no distance variance dampening with off-center hits that should be striking shallower grooves.

    This may or may not be true, but I couldn’t care less about a Ketsch 2 or a $30 rebate. When I tested my Ketsch I thought its sharp ridges and deep grooves really made a urethane ball grab the turf with traction and I found my putts coming up short a lot. But they also didn’t skid out of control on slippery downhill putts. So adjusted, I hit uphill putts more firmly and I’m happy. Whatever they did, it works.

  10. ryan

    Aug 19, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Wish I knew how long it would be before you could order a new one.

  11. Vadim

    Aug 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    I wonder how this effect if at all putter performance?

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Ben Kohles WITB 2024 (May)

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Driver: Titleist TSR3 (9 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X

3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth Plus (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X

Hybrid: Titleist TSR3 (19 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue HB 9 x

Irons: Titleist T200 (4, 5), Titleist 620 CB (6-9)
Shafts: Project X 6.0

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (46-10F, 50-12F, 54-12D, 60)
Shafts: Project X 6.0

Putter: Scotty Cameron P5 prototype

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

 

 

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Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana WB 73 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P770 (2, 4), TaylorMade P7MB (5-PW)
Shafts: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-11TW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 WV 125

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

Check out more in-hand photos of Kris Kim’s equipment here.

 

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Welcome to the family: TaylorMade launches PUDI and PDHY utility irons

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TaylorMade is continuing its UDI/DHY series with the successor to the Stealth UDI and DHY utility irons: PUDI and PDHY (which the company styles as P·UDI and P·DHY). TaylorMade is folding the designs in with its P Series of irons.

TaylorMade outlined the process of developing its new utilities this way. The company started with the data on utility iron usage. Not surprisingly, better players — i.e. those who generate more clubhead speed and strike the ball more precisely — were found to gravitate toward the UDI model. DHY usage, however, covered a wider swath than the company might have expected with six-to-18 handicappers found to be bagging the club.

TaylorMade also found that the majority of golfers playing UDI or DHY utilities were playing P Series irons at the top of their iron configurations.

Can you see where this is going?

Matt Bovee, Director of Product Creation, Iron and Wedge at TaylorMade: “As we look to the future, beyond the tech and the design language, we are excited about repositioning our utility irons into the P·Series family. P·UDI is an easy pair for players that currently play P·Series product and P·DHY is an extremely forgiving option for players of all skill levels. It is a natural fit to give these players the performance in this category that they are looking for.”

 

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TaylorMade PUDI technology cutaway (via TaylorMade)

Crafted with tour player input, TaylorMade sought to develop a confidence-inspiring utility iron that blends with the rest of the P Series irons. Also of note: Interestingly, the PUDI has a more compact head than the P790.

In comparison to past UDI products, the PUDI has a more traditional iron shape, slimmer toplines, and less offset with a little of the backbar visible at address.

TaylorMade PDHY

TaylorMade PDHY tech cutaway (via TaylorMade).

Larger in profile than the PUDI, the PDHY seeks to position center of gravity (CG) lower in the club for ease of launch. The toe height is larger and the profile is larger at address — roughly five millimeters longer than PUDI — the sole of the club is wider for improved forgiveness.

Club Junkie’s take

Golfers who feel like they are missing something at the top of the bag could find the PUDI or PDHY a great option. The look of the PUDI should fit the most discerning eye with a more compact look, less offset, and a thinner topline. If you want a little more confidence looking down the P-DHY will be slightly larger while still being a good-looking utility iron.

For being small packages both models pack a pretty good punch with fast ball speeds, even off-center. The feel is soft and you get a solid feel of the ball compressing off the face when you strike it well. Your ears are greeted with a nice heavy thud as the ball and club come together. The PDHY will launch a little higher for players who need it while the PUDI offers a more penetrating ball flight. Both utility irons could be the cure for an open spot in the top end of the bag.

PUDI, PDHY, or Rescue?

TaylorMade offers the following notes to assist golfers in filling out their bags:

  • PUDI has mid-CG right behind the center face to create a more penetrating mid-to-low ball flight
  • PDHY has a lower center of gravity to produce an easier-to-launch mid-to-high ball flight.
  • Both PUDI and PDHY are lower-flying than the company’s hybrid/Rescue clubs.
  • PUDI is more forgiving than P790.
  • PDHY is the most forgiving iron in the entire TaylorMade iron family

Pricing, specs, and availability

Price: $249.99

At retail: Now

Stock shafts: UST Mamiya’s Recoil DART (105 X, 90 S and 75 R – only in PDHY)

Stock grip: Golf Pride’s ZGrip (black/grey)

PUDI lofts: 2-17°, 3-20°, 4-22° in both left and right-handed

PDHY lofts: 2-18°, 3-20° and 4-22° in both left and right-handed

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