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SeeMore Z Series Tour Limited: Editor Review

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Pros: The removable tungsten weights in the sole allow golfers to fine tune head weight, and the grooved hitting area on the 303 Stainless Steel heads gets the ball rolling quickly.

Cons: Those who forward press the putter defeat the purpose of the Rifle Scope technology.

Bottom Line: They’re not cheap ($395), but they’re not supposed to be. These are the fresh, high-tech versions of SeeMore putters that the company’s fans have been asking for.

Overview

The Z Series Tour Limited is the newest line in the SeeMore family, and feature the company’s Rifle Scope Technology that ensures square alignment and consistent hand position 100 percent of the time.

With six new designs to choose from, the golfer has the option of a blade-style head or a compact mallet. All of the putters in the line are 100 percent milled using 303 stainless steel, and have two removable tungsten weights in the sole that will allow golfers to fine tune putter head weight from 340 to 360 grams.

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The  Z Series putters come in two head shapes, Z2 and Z3, which are available in heel-shafted, center-shafted and offset models. The Z2 is a notchback blade, while the Z3 is a notchback mid-mallet.

“The vision for the ZSeries was to fulfill the need for a blade and mid-mallet putter that each feature the optical benefits of a large SeeMore mallet style,” said John Higgins, national sales manager for SeeMore.

Andre Shmoldas, vice president and head of R&D for SeeMore, said the reason his company decided to release another line of ultra-premium putters, which cost $395 each, was so that the putters could be made using the best materials and the best machines to achieve the best possible result.

The Z-Series Tour Limited putters are available at www.seemore.com and in right-hand lengths of 30 to 37 inches. All SeeMore customers can receive tour treatment as the company will customize a putter for length, lie, grip and head-weight for no additional charge.

Performance

Simply put, my Z3c putter got my putts started on line and kept them there.

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The alignment lines, in combination with the Rifle Scope technology, make alignment very simple for me. My typical miss is a slight push on 5 to 10 footers, but with the SeeMore Putter 99 percent of my misses were speed related.

I was also very impressed with the distance control on longer putts. The alignment aid made trusting my stroke that much easier, which enabled me to free up and really just focus on speed. The heavier head which came in at around 360 grams also allowed me to regulate any flinching at impact.

Looks and Feel

The Z3c I was sent has very crisp lines and a compact head, which is complimented by the signature SeeMore shaft that flows nicely into the top line.

I have been putting with an Odyssey Tri-Hot for the past 12 years, which has very soft face. The one thing that took some getting used to was the crisp feel and sound coming off the face. But while the ball comes off the face quickly, it still has the solid sound golfers associate with a blade.

The Takeaway

In my years in and out of golf shops, I have passed the SeeMore display more times than I can count. I always felt like the technology of the putter only lent itself to a certain type of putting stroke, but man was I wrong.

SeeMore PGA Tour Rep Ted Gallina took me thru a questionnaire that examined my ball flight on full swings, miss tendencies with the putter, glove size, iron specs, etc. to give him the information he needed to fit me for a putter. Not only did the putter perform flawlessly, but it is literally a piece of golf art. The craftsmanship is second to none, and when you get one of these putters in your hands you will understand the $395 price tag.

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Johnny Wunder is the Director of Original Content, Instagram Manager and Host of “The Gear Dive” Podcast for GolfWRX.com. He was born in Seattle, Wash., and grew up playing at Rainier G&CC. John is also a partner with The Traveling Picture Show Company having most recently produced JOSIE with Game of Thrones star Sophie Turner. In 1997 Johnny had the rare opportunity of being a clubhouse attendant for the Anaheim Angels. He now resides in Toronto, On with his wife and two sons.

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  1. Paul

    Dec 30, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Picked up the Z2C recently and I feel it is well worth the price paid. The Z2C has a great solid feel at impact and the alignment aid really helps with consistent ball position. Your ball position won’t be a half inch off with one of these. My stoke has become much more fluid and my hands, arms and shoulders are more relaxed.

  2. evenStephen

    Jun 26, 2013 at 8:34 am

    Did you put this in your bag? I am debating about a center shafted Odyssey for the very soft feel or the SeeMore z3c.

    Is the feel clicky or solid? I am very interested in these SeeMore Putters, but I lose all feel in my putting when it is a clicky feel.

    Let me know if I make any sense and what your thoughts are. Thanks

    • Johnny

      Jun 27, 2013 at 5:18 pm

      It’s in the bag replacing an odyssey Tri hot I used for 11 years. To describe the sound I would compare it to a milled face SC.

  3. Eagle006

    May 10, 2013 at 5:06 am

    Nice review. I’ve always liked Seemore putters, excepet for the light headweights. Nice to see there is some ability to increase it with this series. Would also love to see these offered in their classic black finish.

  4. Ted Gallina

    May 9, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Great pictures and great review – John. Awesome work. Offerings in z Series for z3 heel (straight) shaft, z3 heel (offset) shaft, blade – z2 heel (straight) shaft, z2 (offset) shaft. Enjoy the entire site – Thanks for all the great information.

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WRX Spotlight: Toulon Design San Diego Stroke Lab putter

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Product: Toulon Design San Diego Stroke Lab putter

Pitch: From Odyssey/Toulon: “The Odyssey Toulon San Diego Stroke Lab Putter is our take on on another classic putter. It’s an expertly crafted, premium milled blade, with our multi-material Stroke Lab Shaft, deep diamond milled cross hatch grooves, and a new Charcoal Smoke finish.”

Our take on the Toulon Design San Diego Stroke Lab putter

Toulon is the line of all milled putters from Odyssey, originally started by club designer Sean Toulon and his sons. Toulon putters have always featured their Deep Diamond Mill face, adjustable sole weight, and brazed (instead of welded) necks. That combination has created a great putter line that has become popular on tour as well as us amateur players. For 2019, there are some new head shapes, Charcoal Smoke Finish, Deep Diamond Milling across the whole face, and the Stroke Lab putter shaft.

I got my hands on the Toulon San Diego, a more squared-off blade shape, for this review. The shape, milling, and finish on the San Diego are great and really show off what a high quality piece it is. The biggest change visually is the full Deep Diamond Mill face, making the view from address more uniform. The face used to have the milling only in the center of the face and to some that was a distracting look while others liked the way it framed the ball. The new finish also looks great. I always have liked darker finishes and this looks high end while still reducing glare in the brightest conditions.

The Stroke Lab shaft goes well with the finish on the San Diego and the head cover is a plush synthetic leather that feels like it will hold up for years of use.

On the green the San Diego SL has a crisp sound and feel. If you like a little more click to your putter, then the San Diego SL will be right what you are looking for. And don’t take that as a negative thing, that crisp feel gives great feedback on face contact. You know exactly where the putter face and ball met by the sound and feel. The Deep Diamond Mill gets the ball rolling quickly on line with very minimal hop and skid, providing very consistent and repeatable distance control.

This is blade, so shots off the toe to tend to stray from your intended line a bit, the face does seem like it wants to rotate open a bit. Heel strikes defiantly stay online better, but tend to lose more steam and net get the roll out you might expect. The simple alignment line on the flange of the putter is easy to align, even for a guy who has been using mallets for years.

Like I have said before, I think there is something to the Stroke Lab tech, the lighter shaft and weight in the butt of the shaft do affect tempo for me; I noticed a slight calming of my backstroke and stroke through the ball.

Overall, the San Diego is a great putter for those who like a little firmer feel and more audible click on their putter. It is very responsive and putts a great roll on the ball. This isn’t a cheap putter ($450) and the fit and finish let you know that you are getting what you paid for.

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WRX Spotlight Review: Miura MGP-NM1 Putter

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Product: Miura MGP-NM1 putter

Pitch: Limited to 300 pieces, the Miura MGP-NM1 is Miura’s first 303 stainless steel putter. Its appearance is in keeping with the bolder designs of the Miura Giken family.

Our take on the Miura MGP-NM1 putter

Miura Giken has become the brand where Miura can push some limits and try out designs and technology not really fit for the standard Miura line. And if doing something new and different is what Miura Giken is about, then the MGP-NM1 fits like a glove. When most people think of Miura, they think forged carbon steel and traditional, old school shapes. The MGP-NM1 is a long ways from that, being milled from 303 stainless steel, having adjustable weights and milled stepped pockets in the sole.

If you love mill marks, then the MBG-NM1 will fulfill all our needs because the head is covered with them. I really liked the top line where the mill marks go front to back but then get much finer around the alignment line. If you look close the milling is still there, but just much finer. It works great along with the alignment lines on the “fangs.” The MGP-NM1 is a great size: large enough to give you confidence that a mishit will stay online, but not too big to be distracting. Like most putters with this (Odyssey No. 7)  shape, it frames the ball really well and looks great to my eye. The way the shaft goes into the head is for sure unique, it is straight from address but does drop down into the head.

I will get my one con on this putter out of the way early: the way the shaft goes into the head from address. I love the shape of the head, but the way the shaft enters the head makes it harder for me to line up. At address you can see the the top line of the putter on both sides of the shaft and for some that might be helpful, but it took me a long time to get comfortable with my alignment. Also, the head cover isn’t up to standard for a putter in this price range.

But the good of this putter really outweighs that bad. The putter  feels and sounds great, much like the Miura KM-009 reviewed previously. Feel is very solid with, to me, the perfect amount of click on impact. There might be just a slight bit of vibration on contact, but very minimal and will probably vary with the ball you play. Contact on the toe and heel really stay on target well; you can tell this mallet has a fairly high MOI. Like any responsive putter should do, this really provides good feedback on mishits. Toe and heel shots are not punished as much as you would think, the ball still rolls out well with minimal distance loss. That solid, soft Miura feel really does come through with this putter.

Overall, I think the Miura Giken MGP-NM1 is a really great way for a mallet user to put a Miura putter into the bag.

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Review: Optic Z Putters

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Pros: Point-and-shoot putting. Optic Z putters use a Z-neck design that can lead to a more consistent setup with your hands and eyes on every putt.

Cons: It could take a little while to get used to the design.

Who It’s For: Players looking to develop a consistent setup and stroke.

The Review

  • Model: Optic Z8
  • Head Weight: 365 grams
  • Material: Proprietary “Power 51” Alloy
  • Finish: Black “High-Tech Molecular” application
  • Face Milling: Deep Double Mill
  • Stock Lie: 70.5 degrees (rolled sole allows angles from 67 to 75)
  • Loft: 2.25 degrees
  • Stock Length Options: 35 inches (All lengths available custom order)
  • Stock Grip: Lamkin E.B.L “Optic” grip (Custom grips available)
  • Stock Shaft: True Temper Steel (Aerotech, Loomis, and UST available)
  • Price: $325 Base (Up to $500 with custom options)

Over the past decade, it seems like there have been as many new putter companies as there have been drivers released in the past year (I think another one just released since I typed that sentence). While many of them have come up with ways to re-create or re-design the classic favorites of the past 40-plus years, there are a few companies that are pushing the boundaries of what a putter can be and how it can help make putting easier. And a company called Optic Z Putters has done just that.

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I reviewed the company’s Optic Z8 putter, which has a distinct batwing shape. It’s one of three putters the company offers — its Z3 is more blade-like in shape, while its Z7 is more mallet-like — and each putter sells for $325.

According to the company, Z Optic putters take the two main parts of putting and making them easy to reproduce. And with every putt, Optic Z putters are said to help golfers set their hands and eyes in the same exact position for every putt. “This has been done!” you say? Well, let’s find out if my experience with the Z8 was different.

The Look

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When I first saw the Z8 putter with its Z-shaped hosel, I began to wonder, “What exactly is going on here?” It has a unique Z-neck that creates a “3D” effect when looking down over the ball at address. But when looking at the putter in any other view, it does look odd. It will take a little bit of time to get used to it, but like many putters that come out these days, after a while you simply get used to it and forget about it.

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The putter is 100 percent milled, U.S.A. made, and has a deep “double” milled face pattern that is familiar to most people. It offers an incredibly soft feel that is part from the milling, but also from the Proprietary Power 51 alloy metal that is used. The sole of the Z8 has 8 degrees of roll to it. This means that it can effectively play with a lie angle anywhere from 67 to 75 degrees. The new Z-neck hosel also makes the putter face balanced as if it was a center-shafted putter. And finally, there are several thick alignment lines, both horizontal and vertical, to help aim.

The Z Revolution?

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Once you set the putter down and see how everything lines up in a “3D” type of alignment, you get the point of the Z-neck. Instead of just giving one point of reference similar to other putters, the Z8 gives you three points of alignment.

You align the Z-neck bend with the toe of the putter, the heel and shaft together, and then make sure both are lined up together. Once you have this set, your hands and eyes will be in the correct position.

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In addition to adding more reference points, the key difference with the Z8 is that it actually requires you to have forward press with your hands. The stated loft of 2.25 degrees is the loft with your hands in that forward-press position. The Z-neck is also supposed to eliminate the visual moment of impact of when the ball comes off the face of the putter. The theory is that it helps you relax more through the stroke by not seeing the point of impact, a similar theory to looking at the hole instead of the ball when putting.

Does it work?

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I was skeptical of the putter when I first started using it, and it took me a little bit to get used to the 3D effect. After spending a good amount of time with it, I can say that it does what it is supposed to do. It really becomes a “point-and-shoot” kind of putting, and it makes the set up of putting incredibly easy. The ball rolls really well off the face, too, and the feel is incredibly soft. The alignment aids do a good job helping at address, and I’m someone who has moved away from alignment aids because I tend to aim them incorrectly.

The Optic Z8 putter performed the best for me on putts inside 10 feet. I struggled on longer putts, but it was more due to the weight of the putter. At 365 grams, it is much heavier compared to what I’ve been using, but I’ve always struggled with long-distance putting with heavier putters. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised with the performance. And the more I used it, the more comfortable I became and the more putts I made.

The Takeaway

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If you struggle with consistency, especially at set up, this is one to try. It may take some time to get used to Optic Z putters, but most golfers should be able to adjust. These putters are well made, feel great and can truly help golfers in two areas that we know are important to putting.

To learn more about Optic Golf’s putters, visit the company’s website

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