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Titleist’s new TS2 and TS3 drivers: Tech Talk and Fitting Results

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As per Titleist’s standard two-year cycle of metalwoods, it’s been two years since the company launched its 917 drivers and fairway woods. But for some reason, the launch of its new TS2 and TS3 drivers this year feels different than launches of year’s past. Maybe it’s because of the nomenclature shift away from the 900s, or maybe it was the 17 players who put the driver in play the first week possible (including Justin Thomas and Jimmy Walker) at the 2018 U.S. Open, or maybe it’s because Titleist was calling this driver mission the “Titleist Speed Project.” Could Titleist make these drivers faster and longer without giving up forgiveness? And if so, how?

Well, the GolfWRX team traveled to the Titleist Performance Institute in Oceanside, California to find out everything possible about the new TS2 and TS3 drivers. First, we learned everything there is to know about the technology, design, specs, shafts and pricing from Josh Talge, the Vice President of Marketing at Titleist, and Stephanie Luttrell, the Director of Metalwood Development. Then, we put the drivers to the test on Oceanside’s range, as GolfWRX’s Original Content Creator Johnny Wunder received a full fitting from Titleist’s Master Fitting Supervisor Glenn Mahler, comparing his gamer driver to the new Titleist TS2 and TS3 drivers.

The cool part? We had the cameras rolling the entire time. Check out the information, photos and videos below to learn about Titleist’s new TS2 and TS3 drivers.

See what GolfWRX Members are saying about the drivers here.

Tech Talk: Titleist TS2 and TS3 drivers

Why did Titleist get rid of the Active Recoil Channel in the TS2 and TS3 drivers? Find out here.

To summarize, the TS2 and TS3 drivers have a 20 percent thinner titanium crown than the 917 drivers, allowing weight to be placed lower and deeper for lower CG (center of gravity) and higher MOI (moment of inertia, a measure of forgiveness). The faces also use variable thickness for faster ball speeds across the face, and this year, the faces have been made 6 grams lighter.

According to Titleist, the faces are so thin now that the scoring lines have to be lasered onto the faces instead of etched, as with previous generations. With the combination of weight savings from the face and crown, Titleist says these drivers have the lowest CG ever for a Titleist driver, and MOI is 12 percent higher than the 917 drivers.

Additionally, for more club head speed, Titleist says that enhanced aerodynamic shaping of the club heads that reduces drag by up to 20 percent.

As with the previous Titleist 917 drivers, the TS2 and TS3 will have a SureFit hosel that has 16 independent loft and lie settings. The 460cc TS2 has a fixed CG location, a “high launch, low spin” profile, and is available in 8.5, 9.5, 10.5 and 11.5 degree lofts.

The TS3 driver, on the other hand, has a SureFit CG weight system that does allow golfers/fitter to adjust for launch characteristics. Also at 460cc, the TS3 driver has a “mid launch, low spin” profile, and is available in 8.5, 9.5 and 10.5 degree lofts.

Stock shafts include Mitsubishi’s Kuro Kage Black Dual Core 50, Mitsubishi’s Tensei AV Series Blue 55, Project X’s HZRDUS Smoke Black 60, and Project X’s Even Flow T1100 White 65. Each of the drivers will be available on Sept. 28, and will sell for $499.

To find a free fitting or trial event near you, click here.

The Full Fitting: Could the TS2 or TS3 beat Johnny’s gamer?

See what GolfWRX Members are saying about the drivers here.

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  1. Max

    Sep 25, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    How can you work for Golfwrx and still game a SLDR? C’mon, man!

  2. Tom

    Sep 7, 2018 at 4:25 pm

    Uncle Rico is taking bets that he can hit a ball with these drivers over them there mountains!

  3. John S

    Sep 7, 2018 at 8:49 am

    A thinner face and longer shaft… lol…. revolutionary! What a joke

  4. JasonHolmes

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    So a five year old gamer got beat out by a professionally fitted current model?

    No kidding.

  5. Tom

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    WOW so new and different from the last model! Will probably will add at least 50 to 100 yards more carry to each drive!!! You will need to chip back to all the greens on long par fours you airmail from the tee?

    • Ty

      Sep 7, 2018 at 6:33 am

      That was funny. These companies think we are mental and are going to buy into all the baloney they keep spouting.

    • golfsmask

      Sep 26, 2018 at 11:39 pm

      I always like to leave comments whenever I see something impressive. I appreciate your expert article!

  6. Charles Clarkly

    Sep 6, 2018 at 5:23 pm

    Who’s that LPGA’er Canadian gal, Brooke, that swings what looks to be a 65″ shaft? She’s what, 5’4″, and she CRUSHES IT!!

  7. stevet

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    “…lower CG (center of gravity) and higher MOI (moment of inertia, a measure of forgiveness)…”. NO… it’s lower CM (center of mass) and higher MOI (moment of inertia, a measure of inertial resistance) …!!!!

    • halensmith

      Sep 24, 2018 at 3:13 am

      Great article for the beginners like us . I am a new in this game and enjoying the adventure

  8. ron

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    Great new drivers for the Tour players… and gearheads who only look at their WITB fantasy gonadal arsenal of weapons.

  9. Andy LaCombe

    Sep 6, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    Awesome piece – was a blast to watch the discussion and then the fitting. Thanks!

  10. dat

    Sep 6, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    what is the HZRDUS Smoke? Just a new shaft finish or an actual new shaft?

    • james

      Sep 9, 2018 at 7:15 am

      Special made in China cheap shaft for morons who think its the same made in San Diego shaft the pros use

  11. Aaron

    Sep 6, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Tripod camera was much better than the jiggling handheld.

  12. Jerry

    Sep 6, 2018 at 11:06 am

    TS2 looks like Taylormade R9 Supertri

    • Craaap

      Sep 6, 2018 at 12:44 pm

      Because it is. A copy.

      • JP

        Sep 6, 2018 at 2:42 pm

        They all are to some extent. How much different can you make a driver with so many having been designed in past years? The newest driver is bound to share some characteristics with older models.

        Don’t like it, don’t buy it.

  13. BirdieBouy18

    Sep 6, 2018 at 10:41 am

    How many degrees up or down does a SureFit adapter allow?

    • ron

      Sep 6, 2018 at 3:51 pm

      12º… all the way from the LD to duffer lofts … 😮

  14. Richard Douglas

    Sep 6, 2018 at 10:22 am

    Not sure I see the value proposition for upgrading from the 917D2.

  15. Dave

    Sep 6, 2018 at 10:16 am

    finally a fitter with a 44.5 inch playing shaft. all fitters in my area ever never have anything other than stock even though most should be playing much shorter….im 6 3 and 44.5 is my length how the hell can a guy at 5’6″ play a 45.5 inch shaft with consistency.

    • Doug

      Sep 6, 2018 at 10:28 am

      Exactly on the “long” shafts!

    • Forrester

      Sep 6, 2018 at 10:41 am

      The theoretical 5’6″ guy has a better, more consistently repeatable swing than you?

    • Craaap

      Sep 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm

      Sure, Dave, if you also want to hit it shorter.

    • golfraven

      Sep 8, 2018 at 4:48 pm

      Been gaming a 44.5” 913 D3 and after the TS fitting I still walked away with half an inch shorter club but this time at 45”. Its about consistency and I have not seen much of dispersion. So I rather get the ball speed up with that 0.5 inch and maybe an iron less to the green. However, anything above 45” is just bs for folks under 6 feet

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In-hand photos of prototype Ping “Blueprint” irons

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Our Johnny Wunder paid a visit to Ping HQ in Phoenix, and in addition to getting to step inside to company’s legendary gold putter vault, The Gear Dive host got an exclusive in-hand look at Ping’s new prototype Blueprint irons.

While we can’t provide any additional details at present, we do have these photos of a 6-iron for your viewing pleasure.

See what GolfWRX Members are saying about the irons in the forums. 

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Bargain Challenge: Putting together a set of clubs for $500

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You have a golf trip planned in two weeks. One day after work, you head to your car to hit the range and get some grinding in for the trip. As you walk to your car you notice your car has been broken into and your clubs are gone. Not good. You need new clubs for the trip but aren’t in a position to shell out the $2,000-$3,000 for a brand new set. What are your options? I recommend hitting the used market.

Every year, thousands of used golf clubs go on the market. Some of the clubs had a rough life and some have barely been hit. As an exercise to see what you can get for your dollar, I browsed one of the web’s largest used golf equipment sites (3balls.com) with a budget of $500 for a full set of clubs in my specs. What I found was really interesting.

Rules: 14 clubs for under $500 shipped. As close to my specs as possible.

Driver

Since I play a low loft driver with a low launch, low spin shaft, I knew I was in for a challenge with finding a driver. Once I took a minute to search, I found this beauty of a driver. I remember hitting the Ping G10 back in the day, and it was one of the most forgiving drivers at the time. Plus, it was very close to my specs at standard length, 7.5 degrees, and a mid-launch Grafalloy shaft.

Wood

While searching for a 3-wood, I had two things in mind, I needed a X-stiff shaft, and I needed it to be heavy. After about five minutes, I found this great Titleist 913 with a heavier X-stiff shaft. Normally I play a 13-degree 3-wood, and this 3-wood would allow me to loft it down to get the desired flight. Really a solid deal for $50.

Hybrid

In an ideal world, I’d be hitting a 2-iron or a driving iron here. The problem is that driving irons can sell for $100-plus fairly easily, so that was out of budget. After searching, I found a nice 17-degree hybrid from Ping with an X-stiff shaft. The shaft is a little lighter than I would like, but it is not a bad pick up for 80 bucks.

Irons

I knew I would want to spend the majority of my money on some solid irons. After searching, with the parameters being a 3-PW set with X100 shafts, I found this great Titleist combo set. I current play a MB/CB combo from another company, so this set fits well with what I am looking for if I was to replace my current set. All of this for $200.

Wedges

Wedge shopping was hard because I needed a lob wedge with good grooves and a gap wedge that wasn’t trash. I got really lucky with the Ping lob wedge. It is in very good condition which is really what matters for the grooves since I will be using it greenside. Since it is blue dot, I can get it sent to ping to be adjusted for my specs. For the gap wedge, I picked up a heavily used 52-degree. Ideally, I would have more money for a slightly better grooved GW.

Putter

Can’t go wrong with a White Hot in my preferred length. Not much more to say.

Total

 

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Is it easier to hit players irons?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day was created by lazyjc4, who asks fellow GolfWRX members for their opinion on what they feel are some of the easiest to hit players irons on the market. Our members have mentioned a multitude of players irons, with plenty of detailed reasoning behind their choices.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • thewral: “New Level 902. Single piece forging, feel great, smallish head, low offset, distance lofts.”
  • naj959: “I went through a couple of sets of irons this year which included 765s, flyz+, and finally settled on the…..Bridgestone J15 DPF. There are some great reviews of these irons. The 765s are forgiving, but the j15s are even more so. They have a very thin top line, are workable, and are lonnnng.”
  • Casper_golf: “Take a good look at the Wilson V6, or if you are looking for something older, guys really like the V4’s that can be found as a steal.  Way underrated irons. Soft feel forgiving and long for the weaker lofts they have. No offset.”
  • Sonja Henie: “Very interested in the comment about the 745s being similar to the 545s in forgiveness.  I’ve been very tempted by the 565s but might do better with the 765s.”

Entire Thread: “Easier to hit players irons?”

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