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Ping claims smaller is better with its new G400 drivers
In general, the larger a driver measures in size, the more forgiving it will be. On the flip side, the smaller it measures, the faster you’ll be able to swing it because it will have less drag through space. For golf club engineers, the puzzle is to design a driver that has the ultimate forgiveness, but it also needs to reduce drag, or air friction, to produce the maximum speed possible.
Speed and forgiveness often oppose each other, but Ping believes it has engineered a driver that reduces the tradeoff between them.
Ping’s new G400 drivers measure only 445 cubic centimeters — 15 cubic centimeters smaller than the now-standard 460-cubic-centimeter driver — but they’re even more forgiving than their predecessors, the G30 and G, both of which were industry leaders in forgiveness among their contemporaries. According to Ping, the company has managed 0.75 mph more club head speed and a 3 percent increase in MOI (a measure of forgiveness) with its new G400 drivers compared to its predecessors.
“We didn’t feel pressure to hit 460,” a Ping representative said. “Volume was a free variable for us… and we made it even more forgiving than the G. To be clear, this is not a Tour-only driver; it’s for everyone.”
To boost forgiveness, Ping looked to improve its Dragonfly technology, which it introduced with the G drivers. As you might remember, the Dragonfly design is highlighted by raised portions on the rear of the crown that look something like bear claws. Their overall goal is to remove weight from unwanted areas. In the G400, Ping engineers were able to eliminate even more weight from the Ti-8-1-1 crowns, and the soles, too. The result was a smaller club head that created a 15 percent reduction in drag, according to Ping, leading to the increase in club head speed.
“we’re continuing to reduce drag, which is becoming harder to do.”
You may ask: “Instead of using Ti-8-1-1 titanium, why doesn’t Ping simply use carbon fiber like everyone else if they want to lower CG?”
According to Ping, the titanium material it uses is much better for casting, and it allows the crowns to be made as thin as Ping feels is necessary. Company representatives also say that carbon fiber crowns don’t save weight as efficiently as some may think due to the welding, epoxy, and other accomodations that are necessary when using the material. Ping prides itself on the casting process — Karsten Solheim, the founder of the company, was a pioneer in casting in the golf industry — and says it has created the thinnest crown in company history with the G400 drivers.
By removing weight from where it’s not needed, Ping engineers were able to relocate it into the condensed back weight on the sole. Its copper-colored, and made of both elastomer and stainless steel. There are also tungsten weights — made of nearly pure Tungsten, according to Ping — in the driver soles that are located in different spots on the three different models for the three different trajectories they produce.
- SF Tec (10, 12 degrees): Tungsten is placed in the heel for 10-12 yards of draw bias, according to Ping.
- Standard G400 (9 and 10.5 degrees): Tungsten is placed at the extreme rearward of the sole for maximum forgiveness and wide-spread appeal.
- LS Tec (8.5 and 10 degrees): Tungtsen is placed more forward than the standard model, shifting center of gravity (CG) toward the face. This reduces spin, and encourages a penetrating flight. It also adds about 3 yards of fade bias. Ping says the G400 LS Tec is about 300 rpm lower spinning than the G LS Tec with the stock Alta CB shaft, and up to 500 rpm less spin with the Tour shaft, which 0.5 inches shorter.
The faces of the new Ping drivers are now made from T9S+ instead of the T9S material of its predecessors, they and have variable face thickness (VFT) to boost ball speeds on off-center hits. The new material is stronger and has 20 percent greater stretch, therefore, it can be made thinner and produce more ball speed at impact.
Along with performance improvements, the company has also addressed concerns about the sound of its predecessors, which produced a higher-pitched sound than golfers wanted, especially the LS Tec. With a new virtual analysis system, Ping simulated sound frequencies without actually building a prototype. Using the new tool, Ping was able to dial in the exact sound it was looking to produce with each of the driver heads. This process is revolutionary for the company, it says, which used to build prototypes and test sound on the range via headphones. Ping engineers describe the sound of the new G400 drivers as “powerful, but muted.”
Further enhancing the overall experience of the drivers, Ping engineers also worked on visual aspects of the club head to better appeal to the eye of golfers. You’ll notice Ping’s Dragonfly technology on the crown now wraps around the back edge. Ping calls this an “infinity edge.” According to Ping, this aesthetic softens the edge and is more appealing to golfers at address. The G400 drivers also have Turbulators, or raised portions on their crowns, that sit directly behind the face. They have been thickened up, and dots have been added to the back of the crown. Neither of these changes have any aerodynamic qualities, but improve the look of the drivers, according to Ping.
Another interesting aesthetic change to the Ping G400 drivers is their stock shafts, which use a special paint application that looks different at address than it does on the shelf. By using paint that refracts light in different ways, the Ping Alta CB (counter-balance) shafts have a copper color when they’re looked at fro face on, but they appear to be all black at address. Ping also offers a Tour shaft as a stock offering, which comes in two weights (65 and 80 grams) and has stiffer profile for high-speed golfers. Aftermarket shaft offerings, which carry a $75 upcharge, include the Project X HZRDUS 75 (5.5, 6.0 and 6.5-Flex), Aldila X-Torsion (R and S Flex), and Mitsubishi Kuro Kage 60. Ping’s G400 drivers will sell for $435 per club with stock shafts, and they become available on July 27.
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- Kevin Tway what’s in the bag accurate as of the Wells Fargo Championship. More photos from the event here.
Driver: Ping G430 LST (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X
3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 80 TX
5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 90 TX
Irons: Wilson Staff Utility (2), Titleist T100 (4-9)
Shafts: Mitsubishi MMT 100 TX (2), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (4-9)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (48-10F @47, 52-12F @51, 56-14F), SM7 (60-10S)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (48-56), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 (60)
Putter: Scotty Cameron T-5 Proto
Grip: Scotty Cameron Black Baby T
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus4
More photos of Kevin Tway’s WITB in the forums.
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Editor’s note: This is an excerpt from a piece our Andrew Tursky originally wrote for PGATour.com’s Equipment Report. Head over there for the full article.
The timing of Lowry’s putter changeup was curious: Was he just using a Spider putter because he was paired with McIlroy, who’s been using a Spider Tour X head throughout 2024? Was Lowry just being festive because it’s the Zurich Classic, and he wanted to match his teammate? Did McIlroy let Lowry try his putter, and he liked it so much he actually switched into it?
Well, as it turns out, McIlroy’s only influence was inspiring Lowry to make more putts.
When asked if McIlroy had an influence on the putter switch, Lowry had this to say: “No, it’s actually a different putter than what he uses. Maybe there was more pressure there because I needed to hole some more putts if we wanted to win,” he said with a laugh.
To Lowry’s point, McIlroy plays the Tour X model, whereas Lowry switched into the Tour Z model, which has a sleeker shape in comparison, and the two sole weights of the club are more towards the face.
Lowry’s Spider Tour Z has a white True Path Alignment channel on the crown of his putter, which is reminiscent of Lowry’s former 2-ball designs, thus helping to provide a comfort factor despite the departure from his norm. Instead of a double-bend hosel, which Lowry used in his 2-ball putters, his new Spider Tour Z is designed with a short slant neck.
“I’ve been struggling on the greens, and I just needed something with a fresh look,” Lowry told GolfWRX.com on Wednesday at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship. “It has a different neck on it, as well, so it moves a bit differently, but it’s similar. It has a white line on the back of it [like my 2-ball], and it’s a mallet style. So it’s not too drastic of a change.
“I just picked it up on the putting green and I liked the look of it, so I was like, ‘Let’s give it a go.’”
Read the rest of the piece over at PGATour.com.
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Equipment
Webb Simpson equipment Q&A: Titleist’s new 2-wood, 680 blade irons, and switching to a broomstick Jailbird
With seven career wins on the PGA Tour, including a U.S. Open victory, Webb Simpson is a certified veteran on the course. But he’s also a certified veteran in the equipment world, too. He’s a gearhead who truly knows his stuff, and he’s even worked closely with Titleist on making his own custom 682.WS irons.
On Wednesday at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship, I caught up with Simpson to hear about his experience with Titleist’s new prototype 2-wood, how Titleist’s 680 Forged irons from 2003 ended up back in his bag, and why he’s switching into an Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Cruiser broomstick putter this week for the first time.
Click here to read our full story about Simpson’s putter switch on PGATOUR.com’s Equipment Report, or continue reading below for my full Q&A with Simpson at Quail Hollow Club on Wednesday.
See Webb Simpson’s full WITB from the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship here
GolfWRX: It seems like you’ve been a little all over the place with your irons in the past six months or so, and now going back to the 680’s. Is that just a comfort thing? What’s been going on with the irons?
Webb Simpson: Titleist has been so great at working with me, and R&D, on trying to get an iron that kind of modernizes the 680. And so the 682.WS took the T100 grooves, but kinda took the look and the bulk and the build of the 680’s into one club. They’re beautiful, and awesome looking. I just never hit them that well for a consistent period of time. It was probably me, but then I went to T100’s and loved them. I loved the spin, the trajectory, the yardage, but again, I never went on good runs. Going through the ground, I couldn’t feel the club as well as with the blade. So last week, I’m like, ‘Alright. I’m gonna go back more for…comfort, and see if I can get on a nice little run of ball striking.’
So that’s why I went back.
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OK, that makes sense. I know you had done some 2-wood testing recently. Is that in the bag right now?
It’s like day-by-day. I used it at Hilton Head every day. Valero, I used it one round. And this week, me and my caddie will do the book every morning, and if it’s a day where we think we need it, we’ll just put it in and take the 3-wood out. I love it because it’s a super simple swap. Like, it doesn’t really change much.
Yeah, can you tell me about that club? I mean, we don’t really know anything about it yet. You know? I haven’t hit it or anything, obviously.
It has grooves like a 3-wood. Spin is perfect. And it’s honestly, like, everything is in the middle of a 3-wood and driver number. Trajectory, spin, carry, all of it. So, a Hilton Head golf course is almost too easy to talk about because, you know, there, so many holes are driver 3-wood.
Valero, our thinking was we had two par-5’s into the wind, and we knew that it would take two great shots to get there in two. So instead of hitting driver-driver, we just put it in. And I used it on those holes.
Hilton was a little easier because it was off-the-tee kind of questions. But Colonial will be a golf course where, you know, there’s a lot of driver or 3-woods. It’s kind of like a backup putter or driver for me now. I’ll bring it to every tournament.
So it’s, like, in your locker right now, probably?
Well, it would be. It’s in my house [because Webb lives near by Quail Hollow Club, and is a member at the course.] It’s in the garage.
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Do you know what holes you might use it out here if it goes in play?
Potentially 15, depending on the wind. Second shot on 10. Could be 14 off the tee. The chances here are pretty low (that he’ll use the 2-wood). But, like, Greensboro would be an awesome club all day. I’m trying to think of any other golf courses.
There’s plenty that it’ll be a nice weapon to have.
It’s interesting, the wave of 2-woods and mini drivers. Like, it’s just really taken off on Tour, and all the companies have seemed to embrace it.
Yeah. The thing I had to learn, it took me, like, at least a week to learn about it is you gotta tee it up lower than you think. I kept teeing it up too high. You need it low, like barely higher than a 3-wood. And that was where I got optimal spin and carry. If you tee it up too high, you just don’t get as much spin and lose distance, I don’t know if that’s just a mini driver thing.
And you obviously have a Jailbird putter this week. What spurred that on?
Inconsistent putting. I’m stubborn in a lot of ways when it comes to my equipment, but I have to be open minded – I just hadn’t putted consistently well in a while. And I’m like, ‘Man, I feel my ball-striking coming along. Like I feel better; for real, better.’
If I can just get something in my hands that I’m consistent with. Being on Tour, you see it every year, guys get on little runs. I can put together four to five tournaments where I’m all the sudden back in the majors, or in the FedExCup Playoffs. You can turn things around quick out here. I’m like, ‘Man, whatever’s going to get me there, great.’
My caddie, David Cook, caddied for Akshay at the Houston Open and he putted beautifully. Then, I watched Akshay on TV at Valero, and he putted beautifully. And, I’m like, ‘I’m just going to try it.’
I’ve never tried it for more than a putt or two, and I just ordered what Akshay uses. It was pretty awkward at first, but the more I used it, the more I’m like, ‘Man, it’s pretty easy.’ And a buddy of mine who’s a rep out here, John Tyler Griffin, he helped me with some setup stuff. And he said at Hilton Head, he wasn’t putting well, then tried it, and now he makes everything. He was very confident. So I’m like, ‘Alright, I’ll try it.’”
And you’re going with it this week?
Hundred percent.
Alright, I love it. Thank you, I always love talking gear with you. Play well this week.
Thanks, man.
See Webb Simpson’s full WITB from the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship here
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AlbuquerqueDan
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 am
I hit the G400 on two different launch monitors over the last two weeks. I was very, very impressed both times. I am sure there is a lot of truth in the statements saying that driver head technology has maxed out, given the rules restrictions. However, different drivers have different looks, feels, and sounds. For me, the G400 looks great at address (very compact, muted black), feels tight and solid, and the low thud sounds better than any driver I’ve ever hit. As for launch monitor numbers, the G400 with the Tour 65 shaft easily beat the Epic and M2 and was marginally better than the M2 Draw. The G400 (for me) beat all the other drivers hands-down in the subjective categories (look, feel, sound) and performed equally well or better in the objective categories (spin, carry, accuracy).
BrianM
Jul 13, 2017 at 2:21 am
p.s. The dragonfly design reminds me of the organic spaceship the “LEXX”
BrianM
Jul 13, 2017 at 2:16 am
It’s a fine looking club and I like the idea of a smaller head. No hope for me though, as I’m a long way behind and still gaming a TM r7 425cc and W/S Ti Td5 385cc
The Drop Zone
Jul 11, 2017 at 9:48 am
If this thing sells, hopefully Call or TM will go even lower with the cc (400ish)
Matt
Jul 11, 2017 at 4:57 am
Looks nice but can’t picture it performing better on course than their last couple drivers. After drinking the marketing koolaid for the first time in years and bagging a gbb epic (best of the bunch for me), the penny dropped that these 2017 drivers are only slightly better than the early 460cc heads. A farkled out 2007 driver w/ nice shaft, shortened to 44″ and correctly lead taped swing weight will still be damn nice.
McPickens
Jul 11, 2017 at 2:03 pm
nailed it, I love blowing it by guys at my club with M1’s, M2’s, GBB’s, 917’s etc, and I’m using a TM R7 quad TP.
Double J
Jul 11, 2017 at 2:27 pm
Maybe try playing with guys at your skill level….
Matt
Jul 11, 2017 at 6:43 pm
Hey McPickens, yep took an old 9.5deg, 45″ R5 that I replaced two drivers ago (never dawned on me back then to modify it), down to the practice fairway recently. Hit it not far off the professionally fit 10.5deg Epic which is in turn about as easy to hit as my 3w. Shortened and lead weighted, the r5 would probably be a better club than I thought at the time; will be a little careful next time I’m tempted by the marketing brigade.
TheCityGame
Jul 14, 2017 at 8:26 am
Maybe try not drinking the Kool Aid.
Rich Douglas
Jul 11, 2017 at 12:41 am
There’s nothing wrong with this. But there also is no discernable improvement over previous versions. The numbers claimed are tiny. There’s more variability in your swing than is found in this driver.
How does this driver compel people to leave their current drivers (from Ping or other manufacturers)? How does this driver exceed its current-year competitors?
Real advances in drivers:
— Taylormade introduces the metal driver
— Callaway Big Bertha pushes larger designs with bigger sweet spots
— Titanium drivers
— Adjustable weights
— Adjustable everything else
Because the USGA limited COR to .830 and the clubhead to 460cc, there’s not much room for manufacturers to innovate. Movable weights have added some potential distance gains, but even those are maxed out.
The key to success with drivers–just as it is so with irons–is not in the latest version of the same technology. Rather, it is the fitting of the right clubs (and specs) for each player. Buying these Pings off the rack will not help you get there–beyond the help of the dot.
TJ Smithers
Jul 12, 2017 at 1:23 am
I agree, especially with the Ping line. They are all pressured to come up with the next greatest, longest, straightest clubs or no one will upgrade.. and to be clear, I dig the Ping line.
But, not adjustable like the other brands and not that much different than the G line. Not offering adjustability isn’t betraying some golf trust… it’s just not wanting to spend the money to upgrade your current offering.
Knowing these are 2 year product cycles, I wonder if this line up is strong enough to pull from what Callaway and Taylormade are offering. If not, it could be a long 2 years for Ping.
Boyo
Jul 24, 2017 at 9:19 am
Lot of club ho’s out there…..
Dave R
Jul 10, 2017 at 11:35 pm
Still playing the g25 really like it,will have to try one when they arrive at the club I play. If it’s as good as the g25 or better then they have a winner.
P Healey
Jul 10, 2017 at 9:25 pm
I think it looks great. And on another note, why so many negative comments about new golf equipment? Strange that people come to a site based around golf equipment just to say how they do not believe it makes a difference.
Tom Duckworth
Jul 10, 2017 at 7:44 pm
Read some good reviews by people that have had the club for a few weeks now. I know I read somewhere that the small dots helped air to flow tighter to the head and have less turbulence.
I like that the head is smaller love the understated looks. I don’t need a new driver right now but I will check these out. Ping makes honest equipment.
ron
Jul 10, 2017 at 5:59 pm
Well, it’s not.
Ude
Jul 10, 2017 at 3:44 pm
a copper colored shaft changes into a potent black shaft to match the big black head = big man performance where it counts
Ude
Jul 10, 2017 at 3:58 pm
JESUS – new brand clubs that have great forgiveness for your sinfully bad golf shots
The Drop Zone
Jul 11, 2017 at 9:49 am
You like that big black head don’t cha
Boyo
Jul 24, 2017 at 9:25 am
It’s all about the shaft.
“You see this cat Shaft is a bad mother (Shut your mouth)”
Jim
Jul 10, 2017 at 2:05 pm
So-called improvements in golf gear are really not needed every year. It’s all about marketing and driving sales. Golf course sizes and dimensions were pretty much standardized in the last century (and before). If manufacturers want to make the game easier for the common man (like me), fine, just make the clubs easier to hit. Don’t “improve” clubs and the ball to the extent that courses have to continually be re-designed and stretched to accommodate the latest technology.
Logan
Jul 11, 2017 at 5:08 pm
“It’s all about marketing and driving sales.” Well duh…These companies must sell their products and make a profit to survive. They don’t make the clubs out of the goodness of their hearts. It’s a business.
Chris
Jul 11, 2017 at 7:39 pm
Wow, that’s a real eye opener! Not. Companies need to drive sales and so they develop products and market it as new and improved, what a shocker.
Cons
Jul 10, 2017 at 1:12 pm
These are clean! Best offering in years from Ping, IMO.
Norm
Jul 10, 2017 at 5:23 pm
Strategic location of tungsten weights will make these G400s the best in the business.
FFS
Jul 11, 2017 at 2:54 am
What, you mean just moving the weights around a couple of millimeters every year just for the F of it? FFS!
Jack Nash
Jul 10, 2017 at 12:47 pm
I’ve got a better idea. I’m gonna bring out my Chicago Classic Perssimon out of hibernation. It’s like 300cc’s. Outta be able to swing even faster as I watch the ball fly into the rough. Why don’t these OEM’s bother mentioning how long the driver shafts are? Momentum is really built up by length of shaft and swing arc. The club head is just merely a passenger in the swing.
FFS
Jul 11, 2017 at 2:57 am
No, you have to have mass at the end of the stick too, to have any effect on momentum. You can continuously lengthen the clubs all you want, there’s going to be a point of diminishing returns when you can’t swing it around on time. It’s better to have the proper balance of head weight and shaft length than just going lightheaded and light swing arcing with longer lengths, as long you can handle the heavier head set up
Chuck
Jul 10, 2017 at 12:21 pm
Count me as excited and intrigued. The only redeeming thing to me about a 460cc driver is that science tells me that it is straighter/more forgiving than a smaller head. I would love to swing a smaller head.
First thing I will want to hear about, however, is the sound. Current Ping drivers are indeed notoriously straight. But they sound like garbage cans. I hope these sound different.
Clay
Jul 10, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Why so many negative comments every time a new driver comes out? And Ping only releases them every two years, it’s not like they just dropped a new driver on us last quarter. Maybe sitting behind a keyboard creates a road rage effect for some people.
I personally think it looks fantastic and am looking forward to a sound/feel improvement. Not a Ping homer, my only Ping club is a Ketsch putter, but I have hit the G and my only complaint was sound and feel. Performance was outstanding.
EEEHaun
Jul 10, 2017 at 11:55 am
Maybe try reading all the way through the article to glean this information….
Doug A
Jul 10, 2017 at 11:48 am
Oh Boy are golf companies running out of things to market lol
TK
Jul 10, 2017 at 11:22 am
Can’t wait to see GolfWrx post the numbers on a head2head combat between the G400 / Epic + M1/M2.
That’s when the truth will come out.
LDiamond
Jul 10, 2017 at 11:43 am
The truth? You mean the launch monitor champion? Is this also part of the “race to tour dominance”? Are you sitting at your keyboard with a little Epic/M1 jersey on and waving your banner cheering on your “team”?
Boyo
Jul 24, 2017 at 9:21 am
LMFAO
Big Richard Cox
Jul 10, 2017 at 10:48 am
0.75 mph more clubhead speed! Can’t wait!!!!! I will be purchasing this driver with an extended warranty.
Robert Parsons
Jul 11, 2017 at 11:43 am
And that is so worth $399 or whatever they price it at! Hahaha
ROY
Jul 10, 2017 at 10:45 am
Any word on release dates??
The Drop Zone
Jul 10, 2017 at 4:18 pm
July 27th is what I heard
Regis
Jul 10, 2017 at 10:33 am
Ping fans will gravitate towards it. Non Ping lovers-not so sure. To me that’s the measure of probability of success. The Epic and the M1/M2 before it got non brand fans to at least get out and try their ” revolutionary ” new technology
kel meyler
Jul 10, 2017 at 10:24 am
Very much doubt it will be an affordable price for the average club golfer
Clubber Lover
Jul 10, 2017 at 10:13 am
It pings… it zings… it dings… it wings… it rings… it sings… it tings… and it yings and yangs your balls all over the place …. G400 ….!!!
(I’ll wait for the G800… which will talk to you and tell you how great you are… a macho brute … >:-(
DaveyD
Jul 10, 2017 at 10:01 am
Will be interesting to see the tests comparing these to the previous model line-up. I doubt any improvements will be earth-shattering, but who knows? Ping seems to be sitting behind TM and Callaway in the race to tour dominance.
Philip
Jul 10, 2017 at 9:43 am
So now the beginning of tech going in circles truly begins. It will be interesting if this is just Ping (with truly unique advances) or everyone else reduces the sizes only to increase them 2-3 years in the future with a new claim for going back to 460cc …
mr b
Jul 10, 2017 at 9:07 am
looks real solid. still gaming the g30 ls as i didn’t see enough improvement #’s wise to justify switching to the G Ls. maybe this one will finally kick out the g30!
EricM
Jul 10, 2017 at 10:45 am
Same here mr b. May sound strange to some, but I’m not looking for more forgiveness than I get with the G30 LS, so I didn’t go to the G series, still want a driver I can work at least a little. Of course the G400 does look interesting, could always use the three wood when I need to work the ball.