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Callaway’s new high-end Epic, Epic Pro irons and hybrids

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How does Callaway follow up the most popular new drivers on the market? It introduces a set of players irons built like game-improvement irons with never-before-seen technology, of course.

With its new Epic and Epic Pro irons, Callaway is introducing a new weighting system that starts with tungsten-powder pellets to dial in the performance and feel of each iron. It’s also bringing more distance and forgiveness into Pro-style irons (re: smaller frames, toplines and sole widths), helping the Epic Pro irons create more ball speed than the company’s popular Apex CF ’16 irons.

It’s no accident that irons called “Epic” are introducing new technology to the world of golf clubs. With its GBB Epic and GBB Epic Sub Zero drivers, Callaway gave the golfing world “Jailbreak,” or two titanium rods that connected the crown and the sole to produce more ball speed and overall distance.

Discussion: See what GolfWRX members are saying about Callaway’s Epic irons

Discussion: See Callaway’s Epic iron in hand photos and comparison pics with other irons

EXOCage

Like Callaway’s Big Bertha irons, the Epic and Epic Pro irons use Callaway’s Exo-Cage design.

For the irons also bearing the Epic name, Hocknell and a team of 70 or more engineers had no boundaries or budget to create game-changing irons. Hocknell’s goal was to create a Pro iron with distance-enhancing technologies. As such, “Doc’s Irons,” as the Pro irons were referred to internally at Callaway, were given Face Cups and an “Exo Cage” steel structure (pictured above) to support the Face Cups. While Callaway has used Face Cups to increase ball speeds in its metal woods and game-improvement irons, it has never before added the technology to a set of players irons like the Epic Pro.

Epic Pro Irons Gallery

The Epic Pro irons also employ a tungsten-steel weighting system that yields greater control over where center of gravity is placed inside each iron. The weights start as tungsten and steel powders, which are then cooked for 51 hours at 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit before they’re injection molded into the center of the irons. The long irons use the intricately-shaped weights that are positioned low and toe-ward in the heads to influence a higher ball flight, while the shorter irons have the weights placed higher in the heads to encourage more spin, control and workability. This means each individual iron has a specialized center of gravity that plays to the needs of that iron.

TungstenWeighting

This weighting system also allows Callaway to control the weight of the heads. The company can make the club heads up to 5 grams heavier or lighter depending on a golfer’s needs, which gives consumers the same head-weight options as Callaway’s Tour players, the company says.

HoselThe two-piece structured irons also have a hosel that weighs nearly 30 grams less than the Apex 2016 irons. Eliminating weight from the hosel allowed Callaway to use that weight more efficiently, and helped to build up a stronger Exo Cage backbone.

The result of the new design is 0.5 mph of added ball speed compared to the Callaway Apex irons, according to Callaway, which are widely considered one of the longest-flying game-improvement irons available. As a reminder, the Epic Pro irons are more of a players irons, making those ball speeds quite impressive.

Epic Irons Gallery

Although the original intent of Hocknell’s design was for a Pro-style iron, he asked himself “What would happen if you enlarged the size?” Thus, the Epic game-improvement irons were birthed. The Epic irons have the same Exo Cage and tungsten-infused weight system that the Epic Pro irons utilize, except they have more offset, wide soles, larger club faces and slightly stronger lofts. Golfers can expect these irons to be a half-club longer than Callaway’s Apex irons, according to Callaway. They will suit the fancy of golfers who need a bit more forgiveness and distance than the Epic Pro offering.

The Epic and Epic Pro irons will sell for $250 apiece with steel shafts and $280 each with graphite shafts. If those price tags shock you — and we don’t blame you if they do — welcome to the current state of the market where high-end irons are more common than ever.

Epic Hybrid Gallery

To round out the line of Epic clubs, Callaway is also introducing Epic hybrids that use the same technologies as Epic fairway woods. That’s to say they have lightweight, carbon crowns and the company’s Face Cup technology to produce distance and forgiveness. They’re available for $279.99 each in 2, 3, 4 and 5 hybrid options.

Epic, Epic Pro and Epic hybrids will be available in stores and through Callaway’s website June 16.

Discussion: See what GolfWRX members are saying about Callaway’s Epic irons

Discussion: See Callaway’s Epic iron in hand photos and comparison pics with other irons

 

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  1. John Krug

    Aug 30, 2017 at 10:25 am

    Why does the 2 hybrid have a loft of 18 degrees instead of 16 degrees?

  2. Mikee

    Jun 9, 2017 at 9:37 am

    I hit the new Epic CF17 last night. I was impressed. They don’t look great but………numbers don’t lie!

  3. TeeBone

    Jun 8, 2017 at 2:58 am

    Congratulations…your first post that made sense!

  4. TeeBone

    Jun 8, 2017 at 2:56 am

    “No boundaries or budget”? Ahh, the “PXG Effect”. $250 – 280 per iron? Ahh, the “PXG effect”. If the herd didn’t still think they can buy a game, these ridiculous prices wouldn’t fly.

  5. cray

    May 25, 2017 at 10:37 am

    Guys like you are boring. Hate to hate. First tee baby. My 250 3 iron down the center with high flight will be nice as you bang your 200 straight down the center.

  6. Lob Wedge

    May 25, 2017 at 3:53 am

    Dear Callaway,

    Congrats on picking up the Taylormade Marketing department.

  7. KK

    May 24, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    So all of these golf pioneers were just lying crooks cheating uninformed golfers: Ping with their Eye2 irons, Callaway with their Big Bertha drivers, TaylorMade with their R drivers, Vokey with his wedges. Right. I see your brilliance. I really do.

  8. Dave R

    May 24, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    Tom you are right on well said. Hope some one in the golf market understands and starts to listen. Seems the billionaire is the one calling the shots with his screws in the clubs, the other companies just jumping on board . What’s the limit the market will bear? Only time will tell. I’ll continue to hack with my cheap 5 year discounted mizuno. They still work sometimes.

  9. Tom54

    May 24, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    $250 a club? What are they thinking when they plop this price on ? A nice set of irons might be worth $1200-1400 Even at that price it’s up there. Good irons last several years with proper care and grip changes. Only problem nowadays is if you’ve got a nice set for couple of years it is now 3-4 models old and no longer relevant. Let’s face it all clubs are maxed out technology wise so all they are doing is a cosmetic change here and there but you’ve just got to have it. Best way to go is wait 6 months and get today’s hot item for a fraction of the cost. I believe they have not found the holy grail club if it has to be changed twice a year.

  10. dcorun

    May 24, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    I’m not a hater of any golf company but, I just don’t understand what’s going on. They say the game is going in the tank and then can’t understand why. People may think the economy is getting better but, $2000 for a set of irons better? As a previous member posted, practice and getting some lessons will help more than any club you buy. They have a driverless car but, haven’t invented the golf club that swings for you. What they need is another category for clubs.

    Players Clubs
    Game Improvement Clubs
    Super Game Improvement Clubs
    I HAVE MONEY TO BURN CLUBs.

  11. King of Carlsbad

    May 24, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    Seem fantastic. Same haters had Callaway going out of business years ago.

    • Me

      May 24, 2017 at 3:21 pm

      It wasn’t haters, Callaway was practically a penny stock a few years ago. Poor distribution, 100s laid off, way over inventoried, low demand, marketing was awful, and retail prices were falling. Speculation was Nike was ready to pounce and probably should have. Nothing to do with hatred, just a grim reality of business.

  12. Dave R

    May 24, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    Really $250.00 a club COM ON BOYS ? ONLY THE RICH PLAY GOLF IN THE FURTURE!!!!!!!! . Thought we were trying to promote the game not get rid of it.

  13. Joro

    May 24, 2017 at 10:36 am

    They are for people with way more money than a game. They are just continuing on their quest to buy a better game. Find a good teacher instead. You will not see very many real players with these, at least after a month. Part of their contract may require playing them for a while, but then back to the Gamers. Just another marketing scam for a production Club.

  14. MySlice

    May 24, 2017 at 7:26 am

    I guess in keeping with tradition, they HAD to release them but they are definitely ugly. Someone will like them im sure.

  15. Matt

    May 24, 2017 at 3:14 am

    Wow, those irons are really fugly. 70 engineers but obviously none with a good eye.

  16. Judge mental

    May 24, 2017 at 3:06 am

    Golf clubs for rich kids

  17. Mat

    May 24, 2017 at 1:44 am

    Even
    Phil
    Is
    Cringing

  18. Mat

    May 24, 2017 at 1:43 am

    Embodied
    PXG
    In
    China

  19. Mat

    May 24, 2017 at 1:41 am

    Engineering
    Poor;
    Insane
    Cost

  20. tlmcik

    May 23, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    Rube Goldberg would be proud.

  21. TWShoot67

    May 23, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    I just find it hilarious that they are trying to sell us on SEVENTY I mean over SEVENTY engineers have worked on this aeronautical design. to get 0.5 mph increased ball speeds. And will that mean that crazy ECO Cage frame be Casted or forged? CNC’d? All this cost must be paying for those over 70 engineers. lol. I guess you really can’t blame them because if you listen to PXG they are killing it with a one of a kind tech, that’s why I see at least 1-2 sets being sold every week in the BST ( because the owners are so happy with this product). I see the same thing happening here with this Callaway product. They’re betting on those individuals that have that big bank account who still thinks its better to spend thousands of dollars on high end clubs then to buy lessons. As hard work and dedication is just that hard. It’s easier to try a hopefully buy a game. Have fun boys. all of this wonderful tech and still amateur golfers scores are no better then when they went out and picked up 200.00 sets of irons. Now they pay 2,000.00 a set and still can’t break a 100. I think maybe Callaway has too many engineers at one company to design a set of clubs.

  22. Mark

    May 23, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Are those the new RBZ irons?

  23. MrPoopoo

    May 23, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    hmm… Epic Ugly from a decal/graphics side, but at least they look pretty good from address… which is more important anyway.

    Better players don’t care about ball speed on irons. Distance control, consistency and workability are more important. Trajectory is important, but that can be adjusted with shaft fittings.

  24. Eric B

    May 23, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    Lol cast clubs at Japanese forged prices. FoH Callaway.

  25. Duk Koo Kim

    May 23, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    He said “Nickent!” Great call!!

  26. Sam

    May 23, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    These irons are just compact hybrids. With Callaway’s reputation for quality, you’re going to get some real heaters that fly 20 yards past the green

  27. John

    May 23, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    Yes, golfers are looking for GI irons that look like players irons. Like Ping I200. Now those are some nice looking irons.

  28. AceW7Iron

    May 23, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    Yep..Im die-hard in the prime of my buying life but these are outside the boundary. I did reach for the Epic driver used off the Bay but $280 for just 1 iron? Off the hizzy…
    Im out… Enjoy them Gates & Company

  29. brian

    May 23, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    haha, I wouldn’t bag those ugly sticks for $800 a set, let alone $2k. Good luck with that, Callaway.

  30. Joey5Picks

    May 23, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    Their target market: people with more money than sense.

  31. Bob Jacobs

    May 23, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    I guess their figuring that PXG irons go for a ton of money, so what they heck, let’s go for it!! Silly

    I just dont get why these manufacturers dont go for a cleaner look all around. Also who came up with this incredibly gross green color theme?? I own an Epic and love it, but certainly not from an aesthetics standpoint.

    C’mon guys, give us less marketing, labels and phony tech looking stuff on the outside of the club!!

  32. Minnesota golfer

    May 23, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    It’s ridiculous the lofts of the Epic Irons are even stronger (lower number) than Apex cf16 irons. Definitely game improvement irons. PASS.

  33. alexdub

    May 23, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    Lolz. $2k for face cups. I bet these are no different than the XR Pros. Callaway is doing is their own litmus market test for a higher price point — something akin to what Titleist did with the C16 line.

    • LH

      May 23, 2017 at 8:31 pm

      You mean no different to the original Fusions.

  34. Steve

    May 23, 2017 at 11:11 am

    Titleist sold their full stock of C16 irons so Callaway jumps on the bandwagon.

    In 2 years the “standard” set of irons will cost $1500.

  35. Prut

    May 23, 2017 at 11:00 am

    They have Nickent look to them.

  36. Dat

    May 23, 2017 at 10:25 am

    “If those price tags shock you — and we don’t blame you if they do — welcome to the current state of the market where high-end irons are more common than ever.”

    The prices don’t shock me at all. Especially from a cheesy marketing company like Callaway Golf – which is exactly that. Their clubs, aside from the Rory MB protos, are purely built on technology that is over a decade old in new skin and fancy graphics. The market will only bear this for so long; so take advantage while you can, Callaway. Ride is about to end. Golf is in for a rude awakening when these clubs fizzle at retail. Everyone saying, “I told you so” is going to be correct here. Most players want a set of irons at $1000 or less, not $2000 or more.

    • Vanessa Carlysle

      May 23, 2017 at 2:59 pm

      +1000

      The last two announcements on WRX from Callaway/Odyssey have been embarrassing.
      1. The red putters – copied exact color from TM – Pathetic
      2. High Price, Ugly look Irons – copied idea from PXG – Pathetic

      Would like to see more imagination, innovation and origination from this company, but not going to hold my breath

    • setter02

      May 23, 2017 at 4:46 pm

      Just makes them seem like a bargain when they are 50% off in 6-8 months and they are still making money off of them. Retailers not to much, but the OEM’s don’t care about them as the ‘cost’ pricing keeps going up and up and up for no real reason.

    • Feel the Bern

      May 23, 2017 at 7:47 pm

      I agree with you, but I would add that the Rory MB’s are built on technology over 4 decades old!

      • Me

        May 24, 2017 at 3:30 pm

        Rory no longer plays with Callaway blades….he now plays Taylormade. Just sayin

  37. C

    May 23, 2017 at 10:05 am

    That’s a lot of offset.

  38. SoCalSlicer

    May 23, 2017 at 10:02 am

    How many levels of approval do these go through, before they are given a green light? Those have to be some of the worst, and I mean the most hideous irons I’ve ever seen. Ever. Good god.

  39. BB

    May 23, 2017 at 9:52 am

    $250 an iron? Overpriced junk.

  40. Leon

    May 23, 2017 at 9:22 am

    Callaway will be the next Taylormade, that’s it.

  41. Golferguy

    May 23, 2017 at 9:21 am

    I would’ve loved to see these clubs dressed up in plain steel, a la Srixon, Mizuno, etc. Going forward, I’m considering a set of Miura clubs if I choose to go high-end, though my Mizuno sticks are working for me really well.

  42. Tyson Rochambeau

    May 23, 2017 at 9:17 am

    High end? They look like a set from Wal-Mart.

  43. J C

    May 23, 2017 at 9:14 am

    Those of you who are saying these are ugly you need to seem them in person. The pro’s look great. I would like to know what shafts are available for the hybrids.

  44. DJ

    May 23, 2017 at 8:32 am

    My goodness those are hideous. Callaway making it very hard to become a fan

  45. Teaj

    May 23, 2017 at 8:24 am

    A players iron that looks like a GI iron, I’m not sure the market for players irons wants a busy looking club head, I have been wrong before though. I am sure people will bring up the fact that you do not see the back of the club when at address but there is something to be said about looking at your bag from a far and seeing a nice clean looking set of clubs (my opinion)

    • Steve

      May 23, 2017 at 11:15 am

      The funny thing is I think the market wants the EXACT opposite – GI irons that look like players irons.

  46. Greg V

    May 23, 2017 at 8:24 am

    They look cheap.

  47. LH

    May 23, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Gorgeous. Count me in for Epic Pro

  48. Nath

    May 23, 2017 at 7:51 am

    I really like the shape of the hybrid

  49. Corey

    May 23, 2017 at 7:49 am

    I like Cally, but not gonna sell a whole lot at that price. If your gonna be expensive, you better be pretty.

  50. Desmond

    May 23, 2017 at 7:35 am

    Assume the pics at address and that overly thick topline (reminiscent of the Big Bertha OS) are of the normal Epic, not the Epic Pro.

  51. Duk Koo Kim

    May 23, 2017 at 7:35 am

    +2……..and at 2 grand a set? As the kids used to say, REALLY? Callaway needs to get tossed away!

    And what may I ask is “high end?” What a riot!

  52. Powder skier

    May 23, 2017 at 6:46 am

    Hope they work better then they look uugh

  53. Mr Muira

    May 23, 2017 at 6:32 am

    Fugly.

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Edison Forged wedges offer performance for everyone

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Terry Koehler is a wedge guy—and today, he officially announces the launch of Edison Forged wedges, the first product from the new Edison Golf Company.

Born from the concept that most wedges on the market don’t benefit the average golfer, Koehler has been on a mission to bring significant technology and innovation to wedges since his initial introduction to the wedge space in the mid-90s. The new Edison forged wedges combine years of experience and design into a club that can offer a tangible improvement in distance control and consistency for every player compared to a traditionally designed tour-style wedge, according to the company.

A shift in design philosophy

Edison Forged wedges look different because they are different. Compared to traditional tour-style wedges that place the majority of mass low in the clubhead, Edison wedges move more mass higher in the head and around the perimeter to increase MOI and consistency on shots hit around the face. Traditional wedges with low center of gravity (CG), cause shots to launch higher and with less spin—that might work for modern drivers, but it’s not something you want in your short game.

Amateur golfers’ largest struggle is consistent face contact. Professional golfers at the highest skill level, on the other hand, can benefit from traditional wedge designs by controlling exactly where the ball makes contact on the face to hit desired trajectories and vary spin. This variability in spin is something that amateur golfers don’t need in their games.

Terry Koehler:

“Tour professionals spend thousands of hours honing their exquisite skills. They have perfected those skills with wedges that really haven’t changed much in decades. I think there are complex reasons why wedges haven’t experienced the same technical revolutions we’ve seen in every other category”

The other difference is the signature TK Sole. The sole has been refined over the years to be as versatile as possible and eliminate the consumer confusion around trying to select just the right grinds for swing and turf conditions. Koehler’s design philosophy is that since turf conditions can vary greatly throughout the season, course to course, and shot to shot, a sole design needs to be able to handle anything you can throw at it. The rear portion of the sole has been given a huge amount of relief to make it lower bounce so it can handle tight lies, firm turf, and shallow swing paths. However, the leading portion of the sole has a high bounce, so that same wedge can handle softer lies and steeper swings.

“Very simply, it takes all that confusion and worry about bounce and throws it right out the window.” – Terry Koehler

Lasting consistency is the final part to this wedge spin equation. Edison Forged are pushing the limits of wedge face and groove design by fly-cutting the face to perfect flatness, then CNC-milling progressive grooves with varying width, depth, spacing, and wall angle. The company then adds a unique “X pattern” etching between the grooves to “push the wedge to USGA limits.”

The proof

Edison Golf doesn’t just want you to take your word for what they are promising with performance. They are offering up the Forged wedges have been proven by independent robotic testing to give you more penetrating trajectories (2-4 degrees lower than ‘tour design’ wedges), dramatically improved spin because of improved gear effect and more distance out of your mishits, particularly those high-face impacts that cost us strokes. The data can be seen below.

Edison Forged wedges: Specs and availability

Edison Forged wedges will come stock in lofts from 45 to 63 degrees in odd numbers only, starting in the spring of 2020, and currently only in right-handed.

Stock shaft offerings are from KBS including the KBS Tour, Tour 105, and Tour Graphite.

Special Offer

Edison is offering specially marked “One of 500” pre-production sets for pre-purchase through the Company’s website at www.EdisonWedges.com. Golfers that purchase one of these limited edition sets will be enrolled in the “Edison 500 Club”, and will receive a suite of special treatment, beginning with a package of Edison logo’d gifts, and includes special Ambassador status where these select Edison wedge owners can earn rewards and incentives for referring their friends to Edison Golf.

 

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Bogeygolfer55 who asks WRXers for the oldest set of clubs they have played lately. The responses may surprise you, with some members going way back in time and still finding the older clubs effective.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • No_Catchy_Nickname: “1980 Ram Tour Grinds, Honma and Mizuno woods from, I think, the 80s, Ram BeCu gap wedge (don’t know the year), Ram Tom Watson Grind SW, and a TaylorMade TPA IX putter.”
  • Hatchmanss76: “1985 Titleist Tour Model Blades and Cobra Persimmon 2 and 4 woods. Low running darts off the Tee all day in strong windy conditions.”
  • tannyhoban: “Played a set of Cobra Greg Norman Signatures early this year with the autoclave stiff graphite shafts. One last fling before moving them on. Sweet set of irons.”
  • NixLix26: “Cleveland TA3’s form forged. Still a great iron set.”

Entire Thread: “Oldest set you have played lately?”

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WRX Spotlight: Big Max Aqua Sport 2 cart bag

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Product: Big Max Aqua Sport 2 cart bag

Pitch: From Big Max “Big Max was founded 1994 and has grown into a global market leading push cart and golf bag brand. Europe’s #1 push cart brand was launched into the U.S. market in 2014. Big Max golf bags are manufactured using the highest quality materials and workmanship. Our bags are designed to deliver the best user experience in design, form, and function.”

Our Take on the Big Max Aqua Sport 2 cart bag:

Well known for their push carts, Big Max introduced themselves to the cart bag market with their Aqua Sport 2 bag. The bag’s primary selling point is the 100% waterproof element, and with the dreary winter months now upon us, it’s a much-needed asset.

Beginning with the look of the bag, it is indeed big and sturdy as you might expect with a cart bag, yet surprisingly, still relatively lightweight and mobile. The bag is exceptionally spacious boasting a 9.5 inch, 14-way compartment, and an oversized putter well which can be very beneficial for those that like an oversized grip on their flat-stick. The separation is both impressive and aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

Ultimately, the bag hinges on its waterproof quality, and it’s a feature which delivers in spades. The bag contains the i-Dry Rainsystem to provide water and tear resistance, and I was able to put it to the test on a wet day out on the course recently. The fabric casts away water superbly, keeping each item in the bag dry – delivering undoubtedly on the claim that the bag is 100% waterproof.

As for the storage areas, the bag has enough options for a retreat, let alone a day out on the course. The bag contains seven waterproof compartments, with both sides of the bag sporting large storage areas where you can stash larger items such as jackets. One of my favorite chambers is the “Cooler” pocket which is a great feature and ideal for carrying even a large water bottle (or whatever else you like to drink on the course!), with the specialized battery pack pocket coming in a very close second.

The bag contains a sweet umbrella storage area and even came equipped with a matching Aqua umbrella  which was another pleasant surprise. Clubs can be protected easily from the elements with Big Max’ transparent waterproof hood, while rubberized zips show that the company has gone to those extra lengths to provide a 100% waterproof bag.

A large comfortable strap sits the bag nicely and comfortably over one’s shoulder, and two rubberized handles provide for ease when lifting the bag.

I got to test out the vibrant red cart bag, which is the loudest of the colors provided and my personal favorite. Still, for those that prefer lower-key tones, then the brand have you covered with black-silver, charcoal-black-red, navy-black-silver and silver-black-cobalt color code options available.

Overall the Big Max Aqua Sport 2 cart bag is a mightily impressive bag which ticks the box in every department and provides you with an array of options storage wise. For winter months the bag’s values are priceless, but the seven pocket system and lightweight but robust nature means that it’s a bag which will also be seeing plenty of action in the summer months.

The bag retails at $299, and from now until christmas comes with a free matching Aqua umbrella worth $39.99. The Big Max Aqua Sport 2 cart bag is available to purchase now at BigMaxGolf.com.

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