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Spotted: Titleist 917 Drivers

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Titleist is unveiling its new 917 drivers to PGA Tour players this week at the Quicken Loans National at Congressional Country Club, where we expect several golfers to put the new drivers in play.

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Titleist 917D3

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As in previous launches, Titleist is testing two new models with Tour players: the 917D2 and the 917D3. Like Titleist’s 915 drivers, 917 models have an Active Recoil Channel, a slot behind the driver face that boosts ball speed and lowers spin. What’s new is adjustable weight technology, which is labeled “SureFit CG” on the photos.

SureFit CG debuted on Titleist’s $1000 Titleist’s C17 Concept Driver, and offered golfers three adjustable weight settings (neutral, draw and fade) through the use of two differently weighted bars that were positioned on the rear portion of the driver head. Because only 1,500 of the drivers were made, however, C17 models were not made available to Tour players. That makes the 917 drivers the first drivers with adjustable weights Titleist has released on the PGA Tour.

As with previous launches, expect the 917 drivers to be released to the general public in the fall. In related news, Acushnet, the parent brand of Titleist, announced that it has filed with the SEC for a proposed IPO.

Related: See more photos, and what GolfWRX Members are saying about the 917 driver in our forum. 

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  1. Warren Schroer

    Aug 21, 2016 at 11:38 am

    If the 917 is longer but sounds and feels like the 913 series- than I will give it a try. The 915 just never sounded right to me- more like a TM sound and rarely felt solid like the 913.

  2. kolfpro

    Aug 6, 2016 at 3:20 am

    Now that was sharp … ouch!

  3. Willard L. Abernathy

    Jun 28, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    For all the negative comments, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it, problem solved! For those of us who love Titleist, I personally think it looks great and can’t wait to hit it. I currently game the 913 and have tested it against the Ping G30 and G and Taylor Made SLDR, R15 and M1/M2. Great drivers but, love my Titleist the most!

    • Jon

      Aug 7, 2016 at 10:26 am

      It really has the shape of the 913 and colour of 905s. Really good looking!

    • KK

      Aug 25, 2016 at 8:43 pm

      For all the negative comments about the negative comments, shut up. Problem solved.

  4. Golfmaddness

    Jun 24, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    I was waiting for the new titleist guess I’ll go buy the M2 now

  5. KK

    Jun 24, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    The weight adjustment seems really contrived and unsightly. Just do a diagonal slider and call it a day. Or at least a weight bar that doesn’t stick out so much.

  6. setter02

    Jun 22, 2016 at 10:26 am

    Look how shallow and ugly those things look. From ‘classic pear’ to elongated ewww.

  7. moses

    Jun 22, 2016 at 2:39 am

    Weights remind me of the R7 drivers. Titleist has caught up to TM from 10 yrs ago.

    • SNBD

      Jun 29, 2016 at 4:12 am

      The R7 had 2 movable weights on the heel and toe that adjusted ball flight to either a draw or fade bias, those weights had absolutely nothing to do with CG. This driver uses an adjustable hosel to affect fade and draw and this new surefit weight to adjust CG. Nice attempt at a dig against Titleist, but your comment is so inaccurate, its laughable.

      • Dave

        Aug 30, 2016 at 1:17 pm

        The weights do have an affect on draw and fade. Each club comes with a neutral weight and a second weight that depending on which way it is inserted affects fade and draw. There are also more weights available for purchase. Standard is 12G. The others are 8, 10,14 and 16.

  8. LJB

    Jun 21, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    I think I will kept my current 975D.

  9. Warren Schroer

    Jun 21, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    Looks bad- I have never liked my 915D2, try as I have- so I’m still hitting my 913D2 right down the middle every time and it keeps up with the others just fine. Long if needed, and straight when you have to have it. I’m convinced that there is not much left that will affect my game at this point- does someone have a better shaft that the Tour AD? I think not-

  10. Eric

    Jun 21, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    I can’t wait till all the Titleist homer/Nike haters get a load of this! I feel like after the recoil channel in the 915, and the weight pod in the 917, we can safely assume cavity back technology will be there in the 919!

    • Rob

      Jun 22, 2016 at 4:41 pm

      Yeah because Cavity Back Technology is still in Nike Drivers…

      I don’t see much of a cavity back in their drivers. Ever since they started with it, each season it gets filled in more and more…but yeah Just Do It

  11. Jim

    Jun 21, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Guess club manufacturers are like our favorite sports team. I love titelist clubs, and hit them better than all others. New clubs every 2 years makes more sense to me than every 6 months as others seem to spit them out, but there again I’m a Titelist guy. We all love golf and our team, so hit what you like and have fun.

  12. chad

    Jun 21, 2016 at 10:52 am

    love the grey. I’m sure this color will be a big hit with old school titleist fans

  13. Mat

    Jun 21, 2016 at 8:52 am

    No disrespect, but I think we hit peak-driver with the G30/FlyZ+.

  14. Large smizzle

    Jun 21, 2016 at 4:08 am

    I’ve tried loads of titleist equipment over the years, and I can’t get any of it to work for me. It makes me feel inadequate. Like I’m not good enough to play with the pros choice.

  15. john

    Jun 20, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    LOL nawww titleist…. i thought things like slots and movable weights were just gimmicks that don’t work and that’s why titleist don’t have them? sounds to me like titleist thinks they’re far more important than they actually are – you don’t see callaway or tm paying the pgatour to list every player who plays a titleist ball on their leaderboard do you.

    • Power fade

      Jun 20, 2016 at 8:03 pm

      Correct. This not only looks gimmicky, but could be mistaken for Admiral Ackbar. “It’s a trap!’

  16. kn

    Jun 20, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    Price? $500? $600? Priced just right for all those “new” golfers who are going to keep the game alive.

  17. Tom Duckworth

    Jun 20, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    Titleist knows how to make great equipment they hardly ever put out bad stuff this should be a good driver. I don’t know how many pros would want moveable weights. Should be interesting to see how many move to this one right away. Other than the weight I don’t see a real difference between it and the 915. Is there anything new about the face?
    I have had a 983 a 909 and a 910 D3 and they were all great drivers. That being said I have a SLDR right now that works fine.

    • john

      Jun 21, 2016 at 2:21 am

      somehow their ball reputation unfairly gets put onto their clubs. their clubs seem like they were designed on toilet tissue in lunch breaks inbetween design next years prov1 cardboard box – they use other brands as their “inspiration” and produce such greats as the speedslot copy and my favourite the scotty cameron odyssey #7.

  18. golfraven

    Jun 20, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    Strangely the D2 looks more round shape and appears smaller then the D3. Not sure about the weights though, whole design looks more like a TM R7 driver. I am sure it performs and looks the part so may move other one they drop the price on those on ebay after a year.

  19. Brian

    Jun 20, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    I’m sure this will be another in a long series of over-priced Titleist clubs… Oh, movable weight tech? Welcome to 2006…but I’m sure we’ll get a $500 price tag because it’s Titleist.

  20. Erock

    Jun 20, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    Interesting color choice. Looks very similar to the gloss gray on the G15, G20, K15 Pings.

  21. Jim

    Jun 20, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    I got c16 and added 20-30 yards once dialed in. Ordered a 2nd one! Had I know a cheaper version was coming I might have waited but the club is awesome! It’s first time a club actually lived up to the hype.

    • Chuck

      Jun 20, 2016 at 7:04 pm

      So Jim, I am presuming that you are not joking. If you are, shame on me.

      What is it about new Titleist technology that is giving you that distance boost? What in your opinion (or to the best of your technical knowledge) makes the new Titleist design so good?

      Not that it would determine what I do, but what can you tell us about the process of “dialing in” your C16? Did you switch shafts? Change hosel settings? Did you play with another Titleist before the C16?

      I honestly don’t get the theory behind Titleist’s new weight thing, versus simple interchangeable weight screws as seen in so many other drivers. I’ve actually begun to wonder whether interchangeable weights is a patented design feature that is off limits to Titleist. Hard to imagine that, but it is all so odd to me.

      • mP

        Jun 22, 2016 at 2:48 am

        He was using a persimmon driver at 43 inches.

  22. Adam

    Jun 20, 2016 at 11:00 am

    isn’t that just a recolored version of the C16 or whatever they called it?

  23. rymail00

    Jun 20, 2016 at 10:12 am

    It was released today so I’m sure Greg will post some pics. If your on Titleist’s mailing list they sent out a pic this morning.

    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1351002-titleist-917-prototype-released-on-tour-today/

  24. Joshuaplaysgolf

    Jun 20, 2016 at 10:04 am

    So…they added an adjustable weight, these will probably start around $450-$500 without upgraded shaft. For a weight. Can we all admit this is getting out of hand? You absolutely don’t have to buy a new club just because it comes out, but if all you came up with in your 2 year product cycle was a moveable weight, you should probably make that a 4 year product cycle.

  25. Ian

    Jun 20, 2016 at 8:56 am

    Hmmm. Looks similar to this guy’s design. http://izulugolf.com/powertube-driver/

    • Jb

      Jun 20, 2016 at 9:23 am

      Yeah. That’s all Titleist can do now, these days, to steal ideas. They always have. Like the Pro-V, also stolen, from Japanese balls

      • Colin

        Jun 20, 2016 at 3:30 pm

        Yea no one else in the golf industry ever borrows ideas from any other club company. Every club that comes out is totally unique to that company. Keep hating. Maybe this is just smart business, isnt this what every industry does?

    • john

      Jun 21, 2016 at 2:22 am

      i love jumping on the titleist hate wagon, but this looks absolutely nothing like that… lol, but now that you’ve brought that to their attention they’ll be sure to sue him for copyright anyway.

  26. Christosterone

    Jun 20, 2016 at 8:49 am

    Already did….very similar feel to Nike vapor flex…same tech but with a perpendicular aaa battery thingy..

    Awesome club…like the vapor is was a bit spinny for me but he only had a few shafts and about 4 guys behind me when he took it out of his titleist bag…
    I was more interested in the ’boutique’ c16 head…wow it was awesome..

    I am historically not a titleist driver fan but will absolutely give the sure fit another try when I have more time to put less spinny shafts in it…but who knows when the titleist rep will be at PGA superstore again…

    -Chris

  27. Jwowzer

    Jun 20, 2016 at 7:48 am

    Let me know if you need anyone to test these!

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SPOTTED: New Callaway Forged irons… Apex or Legacy?

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Photos of a new Callaway Forged iron popped up in our GolfWRX Forums, and our members are trying to figure out whether they’re going to be replacements for Apex Pro irons, or whether they’re an update on the Legacy series. They could also be X-Forged irons, but since Callaway recently came out with new X-Forged irons, that would be unlikely.

Here’s what GolfWRX Members are saying:

  • elwhippy: A new Legacy iron? Looks a bit Japanese shaped. 
  • mattTHEkatt: Like an X-Forged/Legacy Black mashup. They look powerful. 
  • DTown3011: …gotta be the next Apex!
  • J13: Pics look like a newer legacy black.
  • mgholda: Pics look like a newer legacy black.
  • TheMoneyShot: I thought Cally was going to phase out the Apex name after they released the MBs?
  • john443: A larger cavity in these then the X- Forged… competitor to the 750 and AP3 maybe? …or Legacy Black finally brought to retail…hallelujah. CF16 replacement???!
  • Equipto: These look very sharp, and like thumpers. I don’t care if they are a Legacy Black or Apex replacement, call them whatever… i’ll try them 
  • mrmikeac: Next gen Callaway Apex Legacy? Hmmmm…..
  • Brizam: The Legacy Black might be the best players cavity back ever made.  If they were to become available they’d move straight to the top of the list of clubs to buy for me. 
  • Jourdan M: This is the Apex Pro 

Here are photos of the new Callaway irons we spotted

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Previous Legacy irons

Which one do you think the new iron looks like? 

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Wilson came out with its FG Tour V6 irons in 2016, but these new Raw versions have a different look… and with time, they’ll have a VERY different look.

The new FG Tour V6 Raw irons have an unplated finish, and they’re designed to “develop a unique patina based on age, exposure and use over time,” according to Wilson. This gives each iron a unique look, and one that’s far from the clean cut original FG Tour release that had a chrome finish (which won’t rust).

In addition to the rusting effect, the irons are different because they have a copper badge in the cavity that will eventually match the color of the golf club over time. Here’s a graphic mock-up of how the Raw irons may look overtime.

Like the original releases, the irons have tungsten weights and mass behind the impact area for a “forged feel” and “improved feedback,” according to the company.

The FG Tour V6 Raw irons are a custom option on Wilson.com, and are available through Wilson’s premium partner accounts as of today, Tuesday, June 19. According to Wilson, the Raw irons “are a very limited production run,” so only a certain amount of sets will even be built.

 

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Chief Engineer Chris Voshall on Mizuno’s approach to the Tour and some of the most insightful pros

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Mizuno’s Chief Engineer Chris Voshall chatted with Johnny Wunder on the latest episode of the Gear Dive.

Voshall offers innumerable interesting anecdotes–particularly interesting is the development of the JPX 900 iron for Brooks Koepka and Voshall’s discussion of his work with other Tour talents.

In the excerpt below, however, Voshall discusses Mizuno’s approach to Tour players and further, whose feedback has proven particularly valuable.

“We’re not making them something special. If they’re coming to us, it’s because the product is that good…They come to us instead of us having to go to them…that’s one of the really exciting things.”

Voshall indicated that players on Tour play essentially the same Mizuno products that are available at retail.

“If the Tour van is out of inventory, they can reach out to us…and we’ll get them more heads. There’s nothing unique about what they’re playing, which I think speaks to the customer…you can almost not trust marketing around the whole world these days, but for us to say ‘there’s nothing different’…that’s something we really hang our hat on.”

With respect to excellent testers on Tour, Voshall sang Luke Donald’s praises, as well as Jhonny Vegas and Brian Gay.

“I love working with Luke. Luke, especially when you’re talking irons…turf interaction, that’s the thing he’s looking for. So with Luke, you’ve really got to speak to him about how it feels, how it enter, how it exits [the turf] and how that’s causing the ball to launch. You could give him the exact same head with a slightly different sole grind, and he will love or hate one versus the other. He’s really cool to work with on that front.”

“Jhonny Vegas…he’s raw power. He goes at it. He wants to slam the club into the ground as hard as he can and see where it goes. He very much on the opposite end of the spectrum as Luke, who’s very much an artist out there, trying to work it, trying to do different things.”

“One of my favorite guys to work with, even though he’s not on staff anymore, is Brian Gay. He knows his game. He knows equipment. Speaking to the fact that he’s been out on Tour as long as he has and has the wins he has with the length he hits the ball, it shows that he does not miss a shot. And he knows everything…when he makes a comment on a club, that’s the one that I take most serious.”

For the rest of Voshall’s insights and perspective, give the full podcast a listen below.

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