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Whose career would you prefer?

Mike Weir and Tiger Woods at the 2003 Green Jacket Ceremony

I mentioned this thread on Twitter earlier this week, and I think the question leads to a great (if meaningless) debate: Whose career would you rather have, Mike Weir or Colin Montgomerie?

Credit to Sonny Crocket for starting this thread, which is complicated somewhat by the fact that Monty has had success on the Champions Tour and Weir is (theoretically at least) still competing on the PGA Tour. So for the purposes of the best possible debate, I’d say excluding any Champions Tour play and assuming Weir won’t make another cut on the PGA Tour is best.

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  1. jamie

    Jul 17, 2016 at 2:48 am

    Monty,
    one of the all time greats in Ryder Cup, The comp that’s now is no longer the walk over it was thanks to Monty, Seve, Poults, and the likes, 10 year dominance in the order of merit, got unlucky more once in the majors, and lets be honest, was beat by the odd good player here and there.
    He contended against some great players over a long stretch, I know what I would prefer when looking back.
    If your American, the masters and US open are the most important to you, if your British its the Open, I think had it been the open Mike Weir had in his pocket it may be a different discussion, that is not to play down the masters, but as the Greatest said ( Jack) your own open is the most important to you .
    I am sure Monty has a few more memories to fall back on when the day comes to hang up the clubs.

  2. Justin Wells

    May 24, 2016 at 11:47 am

    You don’t care about the Masters??? If that’s the case then you must not care about golf. I’d choose Monty in this case for sure, even though the green jacket is a coveted prize

  3. Jon Bon JOvie

    May 24, 2016 at 8:03 am

    Any person who doesn’t say Colin Montgomerie is a buffoon. Montgomerie is a legend of the game, one of the best iron players in history, probably the best European player for an entire decade, and was a Ryder Cup stalwart.

    Weir had 4 good days in his career, Montgomerie had about 10 years of it. Weir was a good golfer who played well one weekend, Montgomerie was an amazing golfer who maintained his class for a decade.

  4. MisawaGol4

    May 23, 2016 at 11:52 am

    Monty, and IMO, it’s not even close! He was the winner of the order of merit for over a decade and arguably the best Ryder Cup player ever. So he’s struggled playing in the states, many foreign players have. I think he handled himself with more dignity and class than most would have if they had to face the adversity that he had to during his US Open appearances with the fans openly taunting him. Granted his reactions to them probably only encouraged them more. Now on the Senior Tour he has his major title that alluded him all those years and where is that quirky lefty?Yeah, Weir has a green jacket and then what? Yes Monty looks like Mrs. Doubtfire but only poor people will tell you money can’t buy happiness.

  5. K dawg

    May 21, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    Not even a close contest. Weir!! And I can tell you who would agree with me….Len Mattice!!

  6. golfraven

    May 21, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    I am sure Monty would give couple of his Millions away to Weir for the green jacket. So if I had to choose and I could win only one tournament in my golf career then it would be the Masters.

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Rahm’s water ball at 11: Is the Spaniard his own worst enemy, or should his caddie have stayed silent?

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Few shots on the course have stunned golf fans and analysts alike more than Jon Rahm’s water ball on the 11th hole while leading the Players Championship on Sunday.

The exchange prior to the shot went viral on social media, which has now been removed by the PGA Tour. With his caddie, Adam Hayes, pleading for Rahm to lay up, the Spaniard pulled rank and proceeded to fire his ball into the water, in a moment of madness which proved a fatal blow in his bid to capture the Players trophy.

Immediately after the incident, announcers called the move “perplexing” as well as explaining how they “didn’t understand any of that,” referring to the seemingly rash decision made by Rahm after what appeared to be a calm and constructive assessment of the situation with his caddie.

Golf Channel’s Brandel Chamblee went even further than those commentators, calling the fiery 24-year-old’s decision and subsequent water ball “the most baffling decision” in the history of the tournament.

Rahm, however, came to a very different conclusion to what had occurred. With the ball taking a splash, the Spaniard lost his cool and was audibly heard saying “I was so f****** sure the first time,” which could only allude to him believing that his caddie had injected some doubt into his mind, causing the error.

Another water ball at 17 sank his chances entirely, and speaking after the round, Rahm stuck to his guns, believing that he had done the right thing and confirmed how he believed that his caddie’s involvement had hindered him.

“Adam was trying to convince me to go right. When I first got to the ball, I was really sure I could do it. If you give me 10 balls, besides that one, I’ll hit the other nine on land. Unfortunately, I got a little bit of doubt in me.”

Veteran caddie Kip Henley, speaking to GolfDigest, explained that while Hayes and the rest of America knew he was suggesting the right thing, he had no choice but to back down.

“Ninety-eight percent of America looks at that and knows Adam was making the right call. Birdie is great, but par doesn’t kill you, and a good caddie is able to look at the situation without as much emotion as the player.

“The whole time you’re fighting you better be aware where your guy is leaning because if you know he’s not coming over, you need to start backpedaling. You then need to make him feel like it’s a good decision. Everybody does that. You read your guy, and you find a way to change your tune.”

How the incident will affect their future working relationship remains to be seen. But Rahm’s refusal to accept that he may have been better served by listening to his caddie while speaking after the event is only likely to ignite the doubts over the Spaniard’s impetuous temperament.

 

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Morning 9: Delicate dance of player/caddie disagreement | Reed’s favorite green jacket memory | Tiger’s build to Augusta

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By Ben Alberstadt (ben.alberstadt@golfwrx.com)

March 19, 2019

Good Tuesday morning, golf fans. On this day in 1993, 63-year-old Arnold Palmer made the cut for the last time on the PGA Tour at the Arnold Palmer Invitational.
1. The delicate dance
You saw the agonizing tango of tensely talking it over Jon Rahm and caddie Adam Hayes engaged in before the Spaniard ultimately ignored his looper’s advice and sent his hopes of winning The Players to a watery grave at the 11th hole, Sunday.
Now, here’s some additional post mortem, courtesy of Golf Digest’s Sam Weinman and veteran caddie Kip Henley.
  • Henley: “Ninety-eight percent of America looks at that and knows Adam was making the right call,” Henley said. “Birdie is great, but par doesn’t kill you, and a good caddie is able to look at the situation without as much emotion as the player.”
  • Weinman: “So Hayes does fight-at least to a point. As Henley said, the odds are always stacked against a caddie when player digs in his heels as well. He says a caddie wins these arguments about 10 percent of the time, so at some point, a caddie has to contemplate caving. That’s what you’re seeing when Rahm starts explaining why he doesn’t feel comfortable laying up because it will leave him an awkward lie. At that point it doesn’t matter that Hayes is still in the right. He knows he can’t win.”
  • Henley: “The whole time you’re fighting you better be aware where your guy is leaning because if you know he’s not coming over, you need to start backpedaling. You then need to make him feel like it’s a good decision. Everybody does that. You read your guy, and you find a way to change your tune.”
2. A fresh mental approach for McIlroy
Credit to Brian Keogh of the Irish Independent for including this Rory McIlroy quote in his piece on what’s going on between the Ulsterman’s ears…
  • “It’s just another step in the journey. I’ve been preaching perspective, and I feel like I’ve got a pretty good handle on that perspective.
  • “It’s a glimpse. My career is hopefully going to last another 15 or 20 years, so one tournament or one day or one month in those 20 years is nothing. It’s just a glimpse. So it doesn’t change anything. It doesn’t change who I am.
  • “It’s another step in the right direction. But that’s all it is to me. It’s a huge tournament to win.
  • “I’ve just got to do my thing, and if I go and I concentrate on me, control what I can do, good golf and good attitude takes care of the rest.
  • “And if I go to Augusta with a similar golf game to what I have now and the attitude I’ve shown over the first few weeks of the year, I think I’ll have a great chance.”
3. Tiger’s slow build to Augusta
ESPN’s Bob Harig with a lengthy look at the state of the Tiger with the Masters less than a month away…
  • “Woods had no three-putts, which is an improvement from six three-putts at both Riviera and Mexico City.”
  • “But he was just 70th in the field in strokes gained approach, an unusually poor number for him. Woods hit 52 of 72 greens for the week and had fewer than 30 putts in only the final round.”
  • “And yet, he had one of his best weeks of the year off the tee, finishing fifth in the field in strokes gained and taking some confidence with him.”
  • “I’m excited the way I drove it,” said Woods, who dropped from 11th to 13th in the world ranking. “I drove the ball well this week. I drove it not quite as long on the weekend with a little bit cooler temperatures, but I was driving it pretty straight, and I was able to shape the golf ball both ways with all three of my woods, which was good to see.”
4. Reed’s favorite green jacket memory
Per Tara Sullivan at the Boston Globe (and from Reed’s Monday conference call)
“Asked his favorite memory in the jacket, Reed told a story about his young daughter.”
“It would have had to have been right after we won and right after I got done talking in the press conference, right after we finished,” he said. “I went back to Butler Cabin, and my daughter was there, and she just came over and gave me a big hug and told me I did it and told me she loved me. That is by far the best experience I’ve ever had with the green jacket. That’s a memory and a moment that I’ll never forget, no matter if I were to win multiple other green jackets, any other tournament I were to win, or anything like that. It’s going to be hard to be able to top a moment like that that I was able to cherish with the little one.”
5. Surprised? You don’t know Jim!
John Feinstein on Jim Furyk, who nearly won The Players, and his passion for proving doubters wrong.
  • “At this point in his life, Furyk should be counting down the 14 months left until he’s eligible to play with the 50-and-older set on the PGA Tour Champions, where his accuracy and putting ability will more than offset his relative lack of distance off the tee.”
  • “But that’s not how Furyk’s built. He almost enjoys being doubted-which he has been ever since he was playing junior golf. “Never really bothered me,” he has often said of people making fun of his swing. “As long as I played well, what did I care what people said about my swing?”
  • “Furyk went more than 4½ years without winning after winning three times in 2010 and remained undaunted until he broke the skein at Hilton Head in 2015. He’s done just about everything you can hope to do in golf: He’s won a major (the 2003 U.S. Open); he’s won the FedEx Cup (2010); he’s played on nine Ryder Cup teams and captained one; he’s won 17 times on tour; he was the first player to ever shoot 58 in a tour event (2016 Travelers) and-as Tabitha witnessed at that long-ago Memorial-has always been one of golf’s good guys.”
6. From Ryder Cup captain to…Ryder Cup player?
On the subject of Furyk…
  • Golf Channel’s Brentley Romine notes…”Just two events into Team USA’s 2020 Ryder Cup qualification, the projected eight automatic qualifiers feature seven past Ryder Cup players, including Dustin Johnson and Justin Thomas.”
  • “Jim Furyk is also currently on the team courtesy of his runner-up finish at The Players, which moved him to second in the standings.”
7. Hoping for a Women’s Masters
Via BBC Sport…”England’s Georgia Hall hopes the staging of a women’s amateur tournament at Augusta National could pave the way for a Women’s Masters.”
  • “The final round of the inaugural 54-hole tournament will be played at the Masters’ home on Saturday, 6 April.”
  • “It’s another step towards having some equality,” Women’s British Open winner Hall told BBC golf podcast The Cut. “The Masters could be women. Maybe we can have an event like that, it would be cool to play it on the same course.”
8.  A well-earned respite
Our Gianni Magliocco…
  • “Legendary golf instructor Butch Harmon is retiring from tour life according to a report from Golfweek.com”
  • “Per the report, sources say Harmon has told his players that he is “done on tour.” The 75-year-old will continue teaching in Las Vegas where he lives with his wife, Christy, but the man who currently coaches the likes of Rickie Fowler, Dustin Johnson, and Gary Woodland will no longer be a regular on Tour with his stable of players.”
  • “Harmon will also be scaling back his appearances as an analyst on TV, after working extensively with Sky Sports UK over the last two decades.”
9. A welcome to the Wedge Guy!
We’re pleased to have Terry Koehler joining GolfWRX as a Featured Writer. If you’re unfamiliar with the 40-year golf equipment industry veteran, check out this release.
“GolfWRX has announced that industry veteran Terry Koehler will resume his weekly blog as “The Wedge Guy”, beginning Tuesday, March 19, 2019 as an exclusive feature of GolfWRX. The column can be found at www.GolfWRX.com/TheWedgeGuy. In his regular weekly column Koehler will share insights, observations and opinions gleaned from a 40-year career in the golf industry.  Koehler introduced his bi-weekly blog columns at TheWedgeGuy.com in 2003 and wrote until 2010, having to pause when his life’s pace was accelerated by the creation of SCOR Golf and then the resurrection of Ben Hogan Golf Equipment Company.”
Look for Koehler’s first item for WRX later today
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Butch Harmon bidding farewell to Tour life

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Legendary golf instructor Butch Harmon is retiring from tour life according to a report from Golfweek.com

Per the report, sources say Harmon has told his players that he is “done on tour.” The 75-year-old will continue teaching in Las Vegas where he lives with his wife, Christy, but the man who currently coaches the likes of Rickie Fowler, Dustin Johnson, and Gary Woodland will no longer be a regular on Tour with his stable of players.

Harmon will also be scaling back his appearances as an analyst on TV, after working extensively with Sky Sports UK over the last two decades.

The 75-year-old has coached an illustrious group of players throughout his career, including Tiger Woods between 1993 and 2004, Phil Mickelson, for eight years, and Greg Norman, for a period during the ’90s.

Harmon’s son Claude, who coaches Brooks Koepka, also works with Dustin Johnson and Rickie Fowler.

Butch has of yet not commented publicly on his decision.

 

 

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