Equipment
TaylorMade M2 and M2 Tour Irons: What you need to know
- The M2 irons are TaylorMade’s “longest iron ever,” according to the company. The M2 Tour irons have a more compact design that doesn’t offer quite as much distance, but allows for more trajectory control.
- The M2 irons replace both TaylorMade’s RSi 1 and AeroBurner irons in the company’s product line. They use TaylorMade’s new Fluted hosels, which allowed 3 grams of weight to be moved lower and deeper in the clubheads and improves their feel. A new 360-degree undercut design, which removes weight from the top of the clubheads, also helped move weight lower in the clubheads.
- Like all of TaylorMade’s recent iron launches, the M2 and M2 Tour irons use the company’s Speed Pocket, a urethane-filled slot in the sole of the 3-7 irons.
The soles of the M2 (left) and M2 Tour irons.
- TaylorMade has used several different versions of Speed Pockets in its irons in recent years, each of which was designed to offer specific performance benefits. The slot in the M2 and M2 Tour irons is what TaylorMade calls a “Blind Version” of its Speed Pocket. It is located farther from the sole of the club to increase launch angle.
- The higher-launch of the M2 and M2 Tour irons allowed TaylorMade to strengthen the lofts of the clubs, which increases ball speed and lowers spin for added distance. Despite their stronger lofts (M2 6 iron: 25 degrees, M2 Tour 6 iron: 26.5 degrees), the M2 and M2 Tour irons will fly higher than TaylorMade’s PSi and PSi Tour irons.
TaylorMade’s M2 Tour irons.
- Neither the M2 nor the M2 Tour irons use the company’s Face Slots, a feature added to the company’s PSi and PSi Tour irons that were released late in 2015. According to Tomo Bystedt, TaylorMade’s director of iron product creation, the large, thin faces of the M2 and M2 Tour irons didn’t benefit from the technology, which is most effective in more compact irons such as TaylorMade’s PSi.
- Both the M2 and M2 Tour irons use TaylorMade’s Thin-Face, Inverted Cone clubfaces, which improve distance consistency by thickening the center of the clubfaces. The technology helps bad shots fly more similar to good shots.
- According to Bystedt, the M2 irons have a 6 percent larger unsupported face area than the RSi 1 irons. To reduce the vibrations of the more flexible clubfaces, the M2 irons use a new 3-dimensional badge, which has V-shaped struts that improve the sound and feel of the irons. The badges are stiffer than previous TaylorMade iron badges to better dampen vibrations, yet do not compromise the flexing of the clubfaces at impact.
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- Dark finish and blasted face
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- Medium width sole
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- M2 Tour toplines and minimal offset
The M2 Tour irons don’t have the fluted-hosel design of the M2 irons, which along with their thinner toplines, soles and reduced offset gives them a more traditional look. The M2 Tour irons also use a satin PVD finish, whereas the M2 irons use a polished PVD finish.
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- M2 (left) vs M2 Tour (right)
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- M2 (left) vs M2 Tour (right)
The M2 (left) and M2 Tour irons at address.
- Compared to the PSi irons, the M2 Tour irons will create slightly more distance, but will not have the same soft feel at impact.
- The M2 irons ($799 steel, $899 graphite, 8 pieces) are available Feb. 19. They’re offered in 4-PW, AW, SW and LW. The stock shaft is TaylorMade’s Reax 88 High-Launch (Steel) or M2 Reax Graphite (45L, 55M, 65R, 75S).
- The M2 Tour Irons ($899 Steel, 8 pieces) will be available March 15. They’re offered in 3-PW, AW, SW. The stock shaft is True Temper’s XP95.
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Related
- See more photos of the M2 and M2 Tour irons in our forum.
- Review: TaylorMade M2 driver
- TaylorMade M2 fairway woods and hybrids
- Review: TaylorMade PSi irons
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Editor’s note: This is an excerpt from a piece our Andrew Tursky originally wrote for PGATour.com’s Equipment Report. Head over there for the full article.
The timing of Lowry’s putter changeup was curious: Was he just using a Spider putter because he was paired with McIlroy, who’s been using a Spider Tour X head throughout 2024? Was Lowry just being festive because it’s the Zurich Classic, and he wanted to match his teammate? Did McIlroy let Lowry try his putter, and he liked it so much he actually switched into it?
Well, as it turns out, McIlroy’s only influence was inspiring Lowry to make more putts.
When asked if McIlroy had an influence on the putter switch, Lowry had this to say: “No, it’s actually a different putter than what he uses. Maybe there was more pressure there because I needed to hole some more putts if we wanted to win,” he said with a laugh.
To Lowry’s point, McIlroy plays the Tour X model, whereas Lowry switched into the Tour Z model, which has a sleeker shape in comparison, and the two sole weights of the club are more towards the face.
Lowry’s Spider Tour Z has a white True Path Alignment channel on the crown of his putter, which is reminiscent of Lowry’s former 2-ball designs, thus helping to provide a comfort factor despite the departure from his norm. Instead of a double-bend hosel, which Lowry used in his 2-ball putters, his new Spider Tour Z is designed with a short slant neck.
“I’ve been struggling on the greens, and I just needed something with a fresh look,” Lowry told GolfWRX.com on Wednesday at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship. “It has a different neck on it, as well, so it moves a bit differently, but it’s similar. It has a white line on the back of it [like my 2-ball], and it’s a mallet style. So it’s not too drastic of a change.
“I just picked it up on the putting green and I liked the look of it, so I was like, ‘Let’s give it a go.’”
Read the rest of the piece over at PGATour.com.
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Equipment
Webb Simpson equipment Q&A: Titleist’s new 2-wood, 680 blade irons, and switching to a broomstick Jailbird
With seven career wins on the PGA Tour, including a U.S. Open victory, Webb Simpson is a certified veteran on the course. But he’s also a certified veteran in the equipment world, too. He’s a gearhead who truly knows his stuff, and he’s even worked closely with Titleist on making his own custom 682.WS irons.
On Wednesday at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship, I caught up with Simpson to hear about his experience with Titleist’s new prototype 2-wood, how Titleist’s 680 Forged irons from 2003 ended up back in his bag, and why he’s switching into an Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Cruiser broomstick putter this week for the first time.
Click here to read our full story about Simpson’s putter switch on PGATOUR.com’s Equipment Report, or continue reading below for my full Q&A with Simpson at Quail Hollow Club on Wednesday.
See Webb Simpson’s full WITB from the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship here
GolfWRX: It seems like you’ve been a little all over the place with your irons in the past six months or so, and now going back to the 680’s. Is that just a comfort thing? What’s been going on with the irons?
Webb Simpson: Titleist has been so great at working with me, and R&D, on trying to get an iron that kind of modernizes the 680. And so the 682.WS took the T100 grooves, but kinda took the look and the bulk and the build of the 680’s into one club. They’re beautiful, and awesome looking. I just never hit them that well for a consistent period of time. It was probably me, but then I went to T100’s and loved them. I loved the spin, the trajectory, the yardage, but again, I never went on good runs. Going through the ground, I couldn’t feel the club as well as with the blade. So last week, I’m like, ‘Alright. I’m gonna go back more for…comfort, and see if I can get on a nice little run of ball striking.’
So that’s why I went back.
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OK, that makes sense. I know you had done some 2-wood testing recently. Is that in the bag right now?
It’s like day-by-day. I used it at Hilton Head every day. Valero, I used it one round. And this week, me and my caddie will do the book every morning, and if it’s a day where we think we need it, we’ll just put it in and take the 3-wood out. I love it because it’s a super simple swap. Like, it doesn’t really change much.
Yeah, can you tell me about that club? I mean, we don’t really know anything about it yet. You know? I haven’t hit it or anything, obviously.
It has grooves like a 3-wood. Spin is perfect. And it’s honestly, like, everything is in the middle of a 3-wood and driver number. Trajectory, spin, carry, all of it. So, a Hilton Head golf course is almost too easy to talk about because, you know, there, so many holes are driver 3-wood.
Valero, our thinking was we had two par-5’s into the wind, and we knew that it would take two great shots to get there in two. So instead of hitting driver-driver, we just put it in. And I used it on those holes.
Hilton was a little easier because it was off-the-tee kind of questions. But Colonial will be a golf course where, you know, there’s a lot of driver or 3-woods. It’s kind of like a backup putter or driver for me now. I’ll bring it to every tournament.
So it’s, like, in your locker right now, probably?
Well, it would be. It’s in my house [because Webb lives near by Quail Hollow Club, and is a member at the course.] It’s in the garage.
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Do you know what holes you might use it out here if it goes in play?
Potentially 15, depending on the wind. Second shot on 10. Could be 14 off the tee. The chances here are pretty low (that he’ll use the 2-wood). But, like, Greensboro would be an awesome club all day. I’m trying to think of any other golf courses.
There’s plenty that it’ll be a nice weapon to have.
It’s interesting, the wave of 2-woods and mini drivers. Like, it’s just really taken off on Tour, and all the companies have seemed to embrace it.
Yeah. The thing I had to learn, it took me, like, at least a week to learn about it is you gotta tee it up lower than you think. I kept teeing it up too high. You need it low, like barely higher than a 3-wood. And that was where I got optimal spin and carry. If you tee it up too high, you just don’t get as much spin and lose distance, I don’t know if that’s just a mini driver thing.
And you obviously have a Jailbird putter this week. What spurred that on?
Inconsistent putting. I’m stubborn in a lot of ways when it comes to my equipment, but I have to be open minded – I just hadn’t putted consistently well in a while. And I’m like, ‘Man, I feel my ball-striking coming along. Like I feel better; for real, better.’
If I can just get something in my hands that I’m consistent with. Being on Tour, you see it every year, guys get on little runs. I can put together four to five tournaments where I’m all the sudden back in the majors, or in the FedExCup Playoffs. You can turn things around quick out here. I’m like, ‘Man, whatever’s going to get me there, great.’
My caddie, David Cook, caddied for Akshay at the Houston Open and he putted beautifully. Then, I watched Akshay on TV at Valero, and he putted beautifully. And, I’m like, ‘I’m just going to try it.’
I’ve never tried it for more than a putt or two, and I just ordered what Akshay uses. It was pretty awkward at first, but the more I used it, the more I’m like, ‘Man, it’s pretty easy.’ And a buddy of mine who’s a rep out here, John Tyler Griffin, he helped me with some setup stuff. And he said at Hilton Head, he wasn’t putting well, then tried it, and now he makes everything. He was very confident. So I’m like, ‘Alright, I’ll try it.’”
And you’re going with it this week?
Hundred percent.
Alright, I love it. Thank you, I always love talking gear with you. Play well this week.
Thanks, man.
See Webb Simpson’s full WITB from the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship here
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Like L.A.B. Golf’s larger DF 2.1 putter, the new DF3 is “fully automatic.” That means golfers will get the full experience of DF3 wanting to guide itself on the correct path on the way back and through. This is possible thanks to L.A.B. Golf’s patented Lie Angle Balance technology. The technology creates true zero-torque putters that stay square by themselves. Golfers can trust that L.A.B. Golf putters will return to square without any need for manipulation.
How we choose our testers
GolfWRX staff evaluates each entry against the criteria laid out in the testing thread to determine the best fit for each specific product — For example, if a game-improvement iron is being tested, game-improvement iron-playing golfers will be considered.
Overall tester feedback
Overall, our testers were impressed with the ease and precision of the remote-fitting process with its custom options. On the whole, even those skeptical about the DF3’s shape enjoyed the ease of alignment and consistent delivery of putter to ball, with some testers pointing to an initial “adjustment period.” Those who had played previous L.A.B. creations universally praised the improved feel of the DF3.
What our members said
“I try to take a lighter grip typically when I putt or at least when I am putting my best. I can do that for the most part BUT it is on the shorter putts lately where the grip gets a little tighter at times. The one thing I tried to focus on, after watching some videos Sam has putt online about how to putt with his putters, was to not feel pressure in my thumbs during the stroke and let the putter swing more freely. When you do this, this putter just wants to rock back and forth. Let the putter/tech do the work for you without your brain trying to telling to manipulate the face in any way. It was a different feeling not having that “torque” working against your hands in the feel of the stroke.”
“At this point, I feel completely confident with this putter. I have never seen the ball roll this consistently end over end on my start line. It has made me realize that I definitely have a bit of work to do in the green reading department, but what’s really nice is that it never leaves me guessing. When I watch the ball start on my line and roll perfectly end over end, it is at least nice to be able to definitively say “oh I just misread that” while taking out almost every other variable.”
“Also for whatever reason people find the gimme getter so hilarious. It’s always just “oh cool that picks up balls?!”…Unless something wild happens this putter will be staying in the bag for the foreseeable future including the tournament schedule over the season, I’ve got almost nothing bad to say about it.”
“It’s everything I hoped it would be. I’m very happy I went with the heavier head option, I fear the standard weight would have felt a touch too light for my taste. So shout out to Calvin for being spot on there. At the current weight, I can have a light grip pressure and let gravity do the work. The head just feels incredibly stable and amazingly solid. Speaking of grip, I really debated what grip to go with and the Press Pistol seems like a great choice. The grip feels very versatile for different putting styles, maybe a bit less so for left hand low (imo). I’m mostly a “2 thumbs” guy but have gone back and forth with left hand low as well as claw. The grip tapers down to a smaller flat oval at the bottom. I didn’t love it for left hand low, but for a claw style grip it is really really good.”
“This putter isn’t going to magically turn a poor putter in to Brad Faxon on the greens. But what I can say with confidence is that removing the excessive face rotation from the putter makes creating a repeatable, consistent stroke infinitely easier to obtain. If you’ve been wanting to try a LAB putter, this is the one truly worth taking the dive on in my opinion. Having never been completely blown away with the Mezz or DF 2.1, this putter has really changed my opinion. I’ve always been really intrigued by the technology, and completely buy in to the concept, but I’ve never been able to get past what I perceived to be less than stellar looks, sound and feel. LAB, in my opinion, has address and improved on all of those things. While this putter still looks far from conventional, it did not take long to get comfortable with the look or footprint. It’s not overly obnoxious in size and sets up so well behind the ball.”
“As far as consistency, it’s ridiculous. You can hit these putters ANYWHERE on the face and the ball rolls end over end. And whether you hit it in the middle, on the toe, or on the heel. The balls roll pretty much the same distance, easily within 6″ of each other.”
“LAB really did a great job with the new smaller size as well. The DF 2 always felt like I was putting with a branding iron. The DF 3 is a perfect compact size and very easy to look down at.”
“The DF 2 I had was an armlock putter. So my only concern with the DF 3 was the grip. I have never been a hands pressed forward putter. It was recommended to me to go with the Press II 1.5* grip so I did. Went with the textured grip and it is perfect. I putt with the pencil grip and my hands are very comfortable.”
“As much as I love the roll that the PXG milled face putters (which I’ve been using for years) put on the ball the DF 3 is even better. Can’t believe I’m saying this but you will soon see my PXG putter on the BST.”
Member review themes
- Ease of remote fitting process
- Putter stability
- Surprisingly good sound and feel
- Ease of getting a putt on line
- Ease of alignment
Check out the full review thread here.
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Lowell
Apr 10, 2016 at 5:32 pm
Boy, some like to get upset over things that really don’t affect them at all. Like Taylormade said, the design allowed for them to lower the lofts due to higher launch. I’m betting they would have people complaining how the irons hit it too high now if they kept the loft where they were. I adjust the lofts on my clubs so my spacing is more to my liking. This has been going on before the m2 so why the argument. You are probably not going to buy them anyways. Step into a golf shop and test them out for yourself and see if you like them and get you the results you are looking for. Same argument happened when 300cc plus heads came out and Titanium was being used. Really folks. Come on. So instead of a 6 you hit a 7. There you go.
JMac
Aug 9, 2016 at 3:33 am
So my 7-iron goes to high, lets bend the loft down 4 degrees to where the 6 was. Of course, no one stops to think the 6 that was also going too high at that loft. What TM is doing is making a club that gives you a low spinning flyer on every shot, exactly what a good player needs. Control?, we don’t need no stinking control.
KK
Jan 30, 2016 at 2:56 am
I don’t really mind the jacked up lofts of some of these GI irons, but I understand the argument against it, especially when the company strictly markets the set as “longest ever.” What I don’t understand is, if these clubs are made for the mid to high handicapper and the 6 iron has the loft of a 4 iron, why even make a 5, 4, and especially the 3 iron. What percentage of mid to high handicappers can consistently hit a 21.5* iron 10 yards further than the 25* iron in that same set? I fit higher handicappers for clubs all the time and 9 out of 10 times, they can’t hit a traditional 4 iron high enough to even think about holding a green. OK, so the consumer doesn’t buy 8 irons and they fill their bag with two extra wedges and another hybrid…great for them, that is what they should do. Why does the manufacturer even make the 3-5 irons? I really hope it’s not because the manufacturers think that the consumer won’t buy the set if they can’t get 3-PW.
Billy
Jan 31, 2016 at 5:46 am
Because they will argue that the lofts accommodate the new lower cg’s they achieve, which I think is BS. Loft has 90% of the say when it comes to height. This can only be good for golfers who over spin or launch it way too high, but you need a bit of swing speed for that unless you’re a special case. They will probably go boast how Dustin hits the “4iron” 300 yards at the coast.
golfraven
Jan 29, 2016 at 5:39 pm
Now I am in the progress of buying new clubs for my wife and she actually ebded looking at TM. Now she hit the RSI 1 which are rather traditional looking and she really likes those. Actually I picked her the RSI and the new M2 irons to hit them on the range on weekend. While the finish of the M2 is interesting, they are quite bulky and the topline is about 30% thicker. The plastic on the back of the club is not giving me the confidence it will stand the time. The RSI on the other side is really nice looking club and I like the Slot technology on the face. What I do like about the Rsi is the fact that GW/AW and SW/LW are more like traditional looking wedges and are slick and sharp. I have not seen the M2 wedges but dont think they will be as nice as the RSI one. Pricewise you look at 20% difference on single clubs. Hosel on the M2 as well as the 25* on 6 iron are just a bad joke. Another reason to go with the RSI 1. It may come down to performance but my wife already prefers the RSi without having hit the M2 yet. We will see.
joro
Jan 29, 2016 at 12:07 pm
Makes me wonder who and when what mfgr. will be the first with adjustable irons. They can be adjusted for loft and lie like todays woods. Now that would be really something.
Joshuaplaysgolf
Jan 29, 2016 at 1:53 am
Alright, this is very, very simple everyone. We all have our favorite manufacturers for one reason or another, and we justify it for ourselves and stick to our loyalties. That really doesn’t matter, and no one cares if you love Ping, Titleist, TM, Callaway, Adams, or whatever else…that’s not what’s driving the loft anger. It boils down to this: progressively over the years companies have been labeling the same lofted clubs with progressively lower numbers. i.e., a PW used to be 52* in the 70’s. Titleist’s 716 MB’s (just an example, don’t freak out that I said the ‘T’ word) have a 47* PW. Yes technology has improved in the past 40 years, BUT, companies have also used ‘loft strengthening’ (which is just relabeling the club) to help stroke all our egos and make us feel like MEN because we hit our PWs 150 yards (just using my numbers for an example y’all).
SO, when a company comes out boasting about how long their irons are and you start looking at the data on the clubs and see that clubs with a loft of 25* that was a ~4 iron a few years ago and is now labeled a 6 iron in this set (and others), it really becomes more of a ‘did they really develop anything here, or just relabel their clubs?’ conversation. No one cares how far your hitting your 6 iron, we care about companies rolling out supposed new technology that actually appears that most of the distance gains they’re claiming are just in the changing of the label of the club. Its about wanting to really see the game and technology progressed, not just throwing out gimmicks that all companies are guilty of.
Taylormade gets beat up on a lot because they market a lot wider and more aggressively than most other companies. Pay attention to the number of Taylormade ads for clubs that you see compared to ads for other golf club companies. So when you see them constantly, and they have a super short product cycle, some people start seeing them sort of as the Wal-Mart of golf club companies. There’s a place for them, absolutely, but as we all know not everyone loves Wal-Mart and will lash out against them and their supporters. Then on the flip side you get the Wal-Mart supporters who want to defend the company they’re loyal to…and some of those people come back to this article 5 or 6 times to troll people and spew nonsense ;)…and you end up with the disaster you see throughout this page of people just arguing to argue and it’s not even about what is accurate and correct anymore, but just making the a lot of noise and screaming ‘this company’ ‘no, that company’…rabble rabble rabble.
Make sense?
David
Jan 28, 2016 at 6:01 pm
I don’t really care about the lofts or the number on the bottom of the club. I am looking to find out if these are a good forgiving club. I can not really find anything on how these are made other than what taylormade says on their site. I am trying to fingure out if these new irons are a gimmick club like the aeroburners or are they a true forgiving workable club like the RSIs. I am in the market for a new set and I would like to get a long but workable set. Should I just get the RSi or should i wait for these to come out. Any input would be very helpful.
Joshuaplaysgolf
Jan 29, 2016 at 1:16 am
You should go hit a wide variety of clubs and stop trying to figure out what works for you by reading things on the internet. It’s a great way to get an idea of what your interested in, but that’s about it. My gut feeling is they’re a gimmick, simply because they’re labeling a 25 degree iron as a 6 iron, which is a 4 iron in most sets, and more traditionally a 3 iron. You said you don’t care about the number or loft…but this is a HUGE red flag if your talking gimmicks. It’s a typical way for companies to say ‘This is the longest iron EVER!!!!! Your 6 iron will go as far as your old 4 iron!!!’ Yep. Sure will. But like I said, GO HIT IT, compare, and keep and open mind. You never know what you’ll actually like and will work best for you, regardless of brand, price, or age of the club without putting numbers side by side.
Cliff
Jan 29, 2016 at 8:26 am
People with slower swing speeds need more than 4* gaps between clubs to get the 10-15 yards distance gaps. Stop bashing the club based on the lofts until you try them!
golfraven
Jan 29, 2016 at 5:57 pm
My advise is to go with the RSi as the more traditional looking clubs that you will have fun with. You also can save up to 300$ that you can invest in a wood or driver. Or get yourself extra GW/AW and LW and a 23* JetSpeed hybrid. Then you have a nice golf set h5,6-PW,AW,SW,LW for next 2-3 seasons with reasonable resale value.
LeftyGuy
Feb 13, 2016 at 9:04 pm
Let me tell you the minute you put these in your hand and hit them you will love them. I hit the RSi and PSi along with ping g30 and max and these were smooth, great feel soft high and great distance. I have lost weight due to surgery and lost distance. These clubs make up for my loss. Just purchased them today. Can’t wait to get them.
Frank Cruz
Mar 21, 2016 at 4:38 pm
I recently fell into the Taylor Made wagon, I’m very happy I did. The short product cycle made it possible to find a “just returned” set of PSI irons for 60% of retail, by far the best irons I ever played. The sound and feel are second to none. These are long -PW is 45-, but the shaft fits me PERFECTLY. In my opinion, the perfect club is one that you like and matches your handicap and has a shaft that you can “load” even when your swing is not 100%, or late in the round. I play to a 10 handicap so the heads are not too small, and the shafts are KBS 90, a little higher trajectory, exactly what I needed. In the past I played Mizuno, Bridgestone, Callaway and Titleist, none had full combination user specific characteristics: head look, feel, sound, shaft and grip that fit me.
Jeff*
Jan 28, 2016 at 5:43 pm
I just can’t see why no face slots. The face slot is the single only reason I’d consider buying a Taylormade iron, ever. To disclose the face slot from this model seems to me the easy way to make more faster, but I can’t see the difference between these and Burner irons. I’ll not be buying. The drivers are great though, I don’t mean to knock the whole operation.
Sasovalerio
Jan 28, 2016 at 9:48 am
Lol
Jonjo throw these on the Shelvey
Jan 28, 2016 at 12:09 am
That hosel thing is so hideous it is way too loud. The last thing a golfer should be looking at is the hosel we have enough issues as it is.
Jacob
Jan 26, 2016 at 9:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdQJhQ6IdcY
golfraven
Jan 29, 2016 at 6:07 pm
I hear what the PM dude is saying but two clubs difference are still a huge gap comparing to CB/MB sets – or I just compare it to the Ping i20 I still game (iron has 30*).
birdeez
Jan 26, 2016 at 9:21 am
if taylormade is going to jack lofts and come out with a new set, they could have at least made them good looking. these things are hideous. at same time, these jacked lofts sell clubs. wrx readers aren’t your avg. joe walking into big box store thinking they might get new set of irons. when the salesguy hands them an 8 iron and they hit it 10yds farther than another brand, its often sold. only months later will they hear someone mention that they are playing a loft that is another brands 6 iron.
Fahgdat
Jan 26, 2016 at 1:40 pm
Lofts aren’t jacked. But your mind might be
birdeez
Jan 26, 2016 at 4:11 pm
A RSI TP which is used on tour has a 30* 6 iron. The M2 has a 25* 6 iron. I’d call that jacked. 5* degree difference ….. thats marketing, not technology.
Cliff
Jan 26, 2016 at 4:19 pm
What is your point? Who cares what the loft on the club is as long as you can control the distance and accuracy. I’m I more manly if I use a 50* pitching wedge?
Fahgdat
Jan 28, 2016 at 3:54 am
Just admit you’re really stoopid, know nothing, so we can all move along
LeftyGuy
Feb 13, 2016 at 9:15 pm
Actually the RSi 6 iron from their site is 26.5 degree. Same as the M2 tours they don’t have a RSi TP on their website
Fahgdat Conscience
Jan 27, 2016 at 1:12 pm
“But your mind might be” Ok, how does this comment help? Well it doesn’t. It is just a typical “hiding behind the keyboard” attack. Maybe you stop doing this and grow up.
Fahgdat
Jan 28, 2016 at 3:53 am
“It is just a typical “hiding behind the keyboard” attack. Maybe you stop doing this and grow up.”
Right back atcha, dummy
Fahgdat Conscience
Mar 16, 2016 at 4:51 am
SMH, you just can’t stop.
Mat
Jan 26, 2016 at 1:58 am
The lofts are a problem. It isn’t because this will make people feel like they have tour numbers. The problem is the giant gapping by in the short irons. That’s the real disappointment.
Cliff
Jan 26, 2016 at 9:14 am
It’s not hard to figure out…4-GW is the new 3-P! Why does everyone make a big deal about lofts. My Hogan Apex II E-wedge is 50 degrees, no big deal! Compare that to my Wilson Ci11 P-wedge at 44 degree or my Miura CB-501 p-wedge at 45.
Fahgdat
Jan 26, 2016 at 1:40 pm
Precisely.
birdeez
Jan 26, 2016 at 4:16 pm
except its not. they are strengthening lofts so that 4-6 irons have 2-3 * between them while 9 – gw have 5-6* between them.
pretty soon a TM set will consist of 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 9, gw yet they’ll label them 4-gw
gunmetal
Jan 27, 2016 at 4:08 pm
@ Mat is dead on. This obsession with trying to trick us into feeling better because we’ve “never hit a 7 iron that far!” has consequences. When you have 5-6* loft differences from your 8 iron on up, good luck!
LeftyGuy
Feb 13, 2016 at 9:20 pm
How often do you use your 8 or 9 iron compared to your 7 iron? I use my 7 the most so I would hope its stronger. Could care less about the lofts of the shorter irons.
Dat
Jan 25, 2016 at 8:08 pm
The lofts haven’t changed. The labels have. Not a big deal. It’s the status.
Fahgdat
Jan 26, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Before the 90’s there really was no such thing as a GW or AW, because PW was 48, 49, and sometimes 50. And then we had SW. Practically the whole world freaked out when they heard you can get a LW at 60 degrees to flip it up in the air. So what were you saying then? Nothing’s been manipulated. 14 clubs is 14 clubs. That hasn’t changed since that rule came into being. You still have to figure out your own gaps in yardages, regardless of what kind of clubs you have up to the 14. If you haven’t figured that out, then it’s time you did.
Cliff
Jan 26, 2016 at 2:57 pm
Great reply!!
Matto
Jan 26, 2016 at 11:57 pm
+100
For Christsake, why do people get their panties in a knot over this?!?? It’s hilarious! No one is saying you have to go and get an ENTIRE M2 set from Driver, Fairway, hybrid(s) irons, to wedges. Sort your own yardages and gaps out people.
Fahgdat Conscience
Jan 27, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Much better! We are on the right track to recovery.
LeftyGuy
Feb 13, 2016 at 9:29 pm
Maybe you should hit them before commenting on them. I have along with 5 other irons including XRs, RSi and PSI and Ping G30 and Gmax. These were by far the longest. And in case you all haven’t figured it out yet, all companies are making irons with stronger lofts.
Duncan Castles
Jan 25, 2016 at 5:25 pm
Want a set of ugly looking, cheaply produced clubs, with verging on 2-club strong lofts and terrible gapping? TaylorMade will take the best part of a $1000 off your hands for them. Then offer you and even more ludicrously designed set in nine months time.
Dat
Jan 25, 2016 at 7:59 pm
You must be talking about the GMax
Turbo
Jan 25, 2016 at 5:14 pm
I wouldn’t play any of those clubs if they PAID me! Absolutely hideous! The game is not designed around distance, but control and strategy. When will these idiots figure that out?
Matt w.
Jan 25, 2016 at 7:44 pm
Excuse me, I will play them if paid to do so!
Thanks
Dat
Jan 25, 2016 at 7:58 pm
Yes! I love the looks of these irons
Sboss1
Feb 20, 2016 at 8:46 am
When the idiots that PLAY the game figure it out….
jgpl001
Jan 25, 2016 at 4:44 pm
Another “our longest ever iron” – when are we going to see an end to this sort of nonsense, what’s next a 24 deg 6 iron and a 40 deg PW???
How could ANYONE use the word Tour here with that top line and sole – give a break
The TM wagon of rubbish and hype trundles on – yawn
Fahgdat
Jan 25, 2016 at 7:52 pm
Did we finally get rid of you from the great game of golf? Then it worked! Thank faaak
Dat
Jan 25, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Now dat’s funny
Fahgdat Conscience
Jan 27, 2016 at 1:16 pm
Not helping …!
jgpl001
Jan 27, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Nope, I just play a full bag of Titleist…..golf is safe again!!
LeftyGuy
Feb 13, 2016 at 9:23 pm
I have titleist 712 ap1. And I think they are now up to 716 because they keep changing as well. And the TM M2 7 iron goes about 12 yards longer and easier to hit then my 712s.
JMac
Aug 9, 2016 at 3:29 am
Pretty soon you’ll be hitting that 7-iron as far as your Driver, that’ll impress your mates! Though you’ll probably need about 10 wedges in your bag to get the gapping right.
Lefty16
Jan 25, 2016 at 4:31 pm
lol
Don
Jan 25, 2016 at 4:19 pm
I believe Cobra, King Cobra irons of the early 90s were the first with a 43 deg. PW. Added the gap wedge at that same time.
Frank Cruz
Mar 21, 2016 at 4:42 pm
I have older Honmas with 44* PW.
Lefty16
Jan 25, 2016 at 3:42 pm
Anyone else see Burner 2.0 irons???
Dat
Jan 25, 2016 at 7:59 pm
Yep. That’s a good thing
New and Improved
Jan 25, 2016 at 12:41 pm
I’m glad they’re doing this…and I hope they keep releasing new stuff ASAP so the RSI irons that I want will drop in price to where they’re affordable to me.
Dave
Jan 25, 2016 at 11:52 am
This type of hype and continuous marketing of new, better than the last Super set we sold you is why I do not buy! To this day I have not found a better set of irons than my 2008 Callaway FT 4-Lob (more traditional lofts and length-these clubs were way ahead of their time), they just work, traditional lofts keep my swing on plane, anything else lets say 1/2 over length or more just plays havoc with my tempo and plane.
I think this is more the parent company mentality than a golf equipment company, Nike same thing, Callaway close and look at the length/loft of the new (intriguing) Wilson D and C-200’s are. It really is as commented on earlier a sad commentary, also that clubs are more important than lessons, I found out the hard way and it wasn’t cheap. 90% of golfers today swing over the top, correct that and you can play just about any club. I guess the real vote is better than my comment, just do not buy!
emb
Jan 26, 2016 at 11:08 pm
This comment is absolutely ludicrous. I feel dumber just from having read it. Well done, takes a lot of effort to get to that level of stupidity
Dave
Jan 28, 2016 at 2:29 pm
Your are dumber! Comment on the article not the posts. Fool!
Hank
Jan 25, 2016 at 11:19 am
The loft gaps don’t make sense to me. Compared to drivers though, there is less mass and less materials to work with, so anyone expecting incredible technology advancements in irons is just being unrealistic. The lofts I guess is just the only way anyone can figure out how to create more distance in the irons. For those that are mocking the look and relating it to past models, that’s extremely hypocritical. The only major OEM that redesigns iron appearance is Callaway. PING and Titleist have been creating the same irons for 20 years.
Eric
Jan 25, 2016 at 11:07 am
They are the laughing stock of the industry
Robin
Jan 25, 2016 at 11:02 am
If only half of you could afford them you would buy them.
Eric
Jan 25, 2016 at 11:09 am
You couldn’t pay me to play that trash.
odjkfg
Jan 25, 2016 at 7:36 pm
10 sets irons/19 putters/8 drivers/36 wedges/15 fairway woods/6 hybrids: 0 taylormade clubs
Cliff
Jan 26, 2016 at 9:50 am
what’s your point?
Dmbrennan
Jan 25, 2016 at 10:34 am
What’s up with those sticks? My five iron has 27 deg loft. My gaps run four degrees between all irons and five degrees between wedges. These gaps are all over the place. Two and a half to five degrees. You can talk all you want about them flying higher, but as a product it seems to me that distance control would be all over the place with these. There have to be better things out there than these.
Jake Anderson
Jan 25, 2016 at 10:23 am
the loft gappings are ridiculous. i dont like the look.
KTM2000
Jan 25, 2016 at 10:02 am
So gimmicky. Where’s all the class? Didn’t they JUST release the PSI irons? They need a two year cycle like all respectable golf manufacturers.
Chris
Jan 25, 2016 at 12:50 pm
Did you read the article? These aren’t replacing the PSi. These are replacing the RSi 1 and Aeroburner. PSi replaces RSi 2. If only you JUST understood the concept of it.
Lefty16
Jan 25, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Concept??? Replacing irons every 4-6 months is not a concept is called robbery!!
DatSliceDoe
Jan 25, 2016 at 10:00 am
2* gaps in the long irons and a 43* PW / 49* AW? What on earth? So you’ll have a 5 yard gap in the long irons and a 20 yard gap where it really counts? Good luck adjusting these lofts if you dare. SNAP goes the clubhead.
birdeez
Jan 25, 2016 at 9:36 am
a 33* degree 8 iron….hahaha even if it launches high with little spin is anyone going to be able to hold greens?
i think we’re officially to the point where the 4-pw is now the 5-aw.
Ml
Jan 25, 2016 at 9:34 am
I hope no one actually buys these. The clubs are over a club stronger than traditional lofts. And a two degree gap between 3, 4, & 5? Lets not even get started on the 43* PW…
Chris
Jan 25, 2016 at 12:51 pm
If memory serves me correctly, the Aeroburner iron had a 42* PW. It is crazy though.
SV
Jan 25, 2016 at 9:11 am
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. 2* loft gaps between the M2 4 & 5 irons. 5 iron loft is 5* stronger than just 10 years ago. Then the same loft was a 3 iron. Irons are for precision, not distance. It goes to show how gullible the golfing public is.
Dave
Jan 25, 2016 at 5:32 pm
AMEN!
Matt
Jan 25, 2016 at 9:09 am
We’ve finally reached the 43* PW mark. I just don’t see anything new. It looks like a burner 2.0 with Robocop armour.
Paul
Jan 25, 2016 at 2:17 pm
Titleist 716 AP1 has a 43* PW and that came out last year, yet no one complains about that.
Matt
Jan 25, 2016 at 3:56 pm
I couldn’t care less about Titleist GI irons, I guess no one else does either.