41 Comments

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   Justin Dunn

   Aug 17, 2015 at 6:34 pm

   Personally I do not agree that shaft flex is “meaningless”. Obviously Furyk plays R flex because he hits it better than s flex or x flex. I do agree that when choosing shafts our ego gets way too involved in the decision. Proper shaft flex is not simply determined by swing speed. A variety of other factors unique to each individuals swing play a role in determining proper flex. I am a 2 index with a driver swing speed between 117-119. I recently got fitted for all new clubs, and I wanted to make absolutely certain that I received the best possible fit that enabled me to hit the best combination of accuracy, distance, trajectory and spin. I could care less what flex that was I was only concerned about performance. However I knew my ego may creep into the decision if I wasn’t careful. Thus I decided to basically do a “blind” fitting. I hit every club with a variety of different shaft options, but I did not know when I was hitting what shaft. After hitting enough shots with every conceivable combination of flex, kickpoint, etc. we looked at the data, and I selected the option that gave me the optimal results I was looking for. Result…I could not be more pleased with the outcome.

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   Brad

   Aug 9, 2015 at 6:05 am

   I noticed the new GBB on his tee shot at the 18th. Didn’t take him long to make the switch and carry on splitting fairways.

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   Joe

   Aug 9, 2015 at 1:06 am

   last time i remember, Furyk was playing KBS Tour S+ 125.

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   RG

   Apr 22, 2015 at 3:23 pm

   Sorry to burst bubbles, but shaft flex is MEANINGLESS! What matters is feel and strike. If you like X flex then good, but if you believe that you can’t play with A flex you are wrong. Strike on a golf ball is important. There is so much BS and hype when it comes to flex and long drivers, it’s refreshing to see a guy win on tour that knows the truth!

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   TI

   Apr 22, 2015 at 2:26 am

   Nevermind the flex label on the shaft! We all know by now that they really don’t mean anything!!!! Lets get the Swingweights and CPMs on Tour clubs from now on, shall we? Those might be more useful information?? I thought this was WRX, not some fanboy website for oodling at equipment! So lets get some proper tech info!

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6. 

   Sargio_Gercia

   Apr 21, 2015 at 5:56 pm

   I need to trade in my ego flex shafts for some hard stepped Rs. Top 4 US Tour miney winner… Anyone know if these figures are inflation and cost of livin’-adjusted?

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   Charlie

   Apr 21, 2015 at 10:52 am

   To me, the big info is the fact that he has cut down the length of the driver, as has SergioG (44″). The stock driver would likely have a shaft of at least 45″, and Jim is below 44 1/2″. Quality of impact equals good consistent distance, and a lot more fairways hit.

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   Phil

   Apr 21, 2015 at 10:10 am

   It’s not how hard, far, high or pretty. It’s all about how many! No pic’s of the round on the cards!

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   Rich

   Apr 20, 2015 at 5:17 pm

   All this discussion about shaft flex. Who cares. I thought it was interesting how, at best, he’s only got 2 current clubs in his bag and it’s only because he needed new grooves I’d imagine. Not a ho I guess. Cool bag of clubs. He’ll need new irons soon thought I’d think. He’s had those razr x forged irons for yonks.

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     RG

     Apr 22, 2015 at 7:56 pm

     Ask Bernhard Langer about “needing new irons.” His 3,4,5 irons are Hogan Apex II from ’92 and his 7,8,9 are Abams MB black from like ’02. He also has Hogan Apex shafts in all his clubs that are from the ’90’s.
     Find what works for your game and play it, period.

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    Eric

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:53 am

    Use the softest shaft you can control, that’s the rule right? Most Am’s with a swing speed approaching tour speed would likely be fit into stiff flex. Jim can control his irons and likely work them better than stiff. I saw him back up an 8 iron on one of the holes in yesterday’s round. This said, a hard stepped KBS sits right in between DGR300 and S300. A lot of pros (not most) play S300 and many soft step their long irons.

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      Joe

      Apr 20, 2015 at 11:59 am

      It depends on manufacturer… KBS mantra is to play the stiffest shaft that you can load.

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      MASSIVE MIKE!

      Apr 20, 2015 at 1:29 pm

      you don’t know what your talking about

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        RG

        Apr 22, 2015 at 7:58 pm

        Or u don’t.

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11. 

    Designs Clubs

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:51 am

    Agree with slider. That 56 looks great.

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12. 

    Chris

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:40 am

    Jim plays an R flex- hard stepped because he doesn’t get the higher swing speeds because he doesn’t like the feel of lagging the club. He says he loses control whenever he tries to hold lag as other longer hitters do on tour.

    He’d rather Top 10 and collect checks than feel a little heavier with 20 more yards off the tee. Kudos to him. I wish I could stripe the ball like he does.

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      Joe

      Apr 20, 2015 at 11:54 am

      It probably is because of the weight of an R flex, as much as it is about flex.

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      RG

      Apr 22, 2015 at 8:10 pm

      I’m writing all over this because we should all learn from Furyk. He knows it’s about strike and feel and not what the label says. Shaft flex is meaningless.

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    Mike

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:27 am

    Love seeing this. Even as 14-year old’s we would argue about when we could move to a “stiff shaft,” like the “big hitters.” Probably set us back years in golf development.

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    Boo

    Apr 20, 2015 at 1:13 am

    Im glad to see Jim playing regular flex shafts, just didnt expect it! Would have bet all day long he would have atleast hit stiffs. But, bottom line, he can kick my butt in golf and everyone on this sites too!!

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    Gordon

    Apr 19, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Isn’t that a Callaway xr head cover and big bertha wood cover?

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      Peter

      Apr 19, 2015 at 11:59 pm

      Yes, they typically display the current model of the manufacturer for marketing, even though Furyk was using different model clubs underneath. Sometimes you will see a pro play a different manufacturer club and still use that headcover because they are under contract to.

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        jeremy

        Aug 9, 2015 at 11:37 am

        Mickelson has switched to taylormade rbz 3 quite often with a callaway headcover, just throws a cheap layer of black paint on top

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16. 

    Witb

    Apr 19, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    I can’t remember the last time at my course anyone looked at my clubs…(or I should say shaft specs) The most I get is “how do you like your c-tapers” maybe twice. Even though Dan was only making a joke, it is crazy the overwhelming amount of discussion and judgment that comes along with what shaft you play and your clubs head size per this site. I would never knock this site as I am on it almost every day, but it does seem like a lot of people let their ego get in the way of just talking golf and what is going on in the world of golf. There is so much valuable information on WRX…ie. gear, tour pics, instruction etc. perhaps a good idea would be, when joining the site everyone must post a video of their swing rather then a signature. Then we can really see who should be swinging their “X-flex” and who shouldn’t. It just isn’t fair to people who don’t play those sort of shafts to have to “walk on eggshells” because of what they play and have to try to fit in with the tour pros on the site.

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      Gorden

      Apr 20, 2015 at 2:03 am

      i think if you could see the majority of our swings you would come to the conclusion we should put down our clubs and head straight to the 19th hole to rag on what Pro doesn’t know what he is doing….

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    slider

    Apr 19, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    nice 56 degree wedge

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18. 

    Benny

    Apr 19, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    Funny you guys mention this and CPU. My head Pro at my club was demolishing a x2hot 3w in regular ATX shaft. I mean killing it, 289 off the deck, but with a regular shaft. Made no sense to me as his driver speed is 112mph and this worked so well for him. Guess like Jimmy it only matters what the ball does.

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      TheInfidel

      Apr 20, 2015 at 4:29 am

      Incredible that you should mention this. I was just about to make a similar comment. I’m a really bad 9hcp and have a swing speed of about 115. Hit the range with my father in law but had left my clubs at home. Picked up his XHot2 5 wood regular ATX and was flushing it 230/240 at the green, landing several within about 20 feet. Made me think really long and hard why I have a mix of S and X in my driver and fairways! That’s golf I guess.

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      RG

      Apr 22, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      Shaft flex is a lie. It only matters in your head. The original Ping Eye was best selling all time iron. It came in one flex. Shaft flex is something manufacturers set up to make people buy new shafts. Yes there is a feel difference, Only strike matters.

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        BW

        Apr 22, 2015 at 7:05 pm

        RG, no way man. I can control the the FIRM S-flex in my hybrid AND hit it 9-11 yards longer than I can with the same shaft in a FIRM Senior-flex.

        It’s true that 80% of shafts are incorrectly labeled. That being said, flex (or the correct CPM) DOES matter for most players. If flex or CPM didn’t matter at all then why are the tour players so anal about flex/CPM, bend profile, lie angles, lofts, etc?

        Take your current shafts in ALL of your clubs and order a Junior flex and let me know how that works for ya.

        Maybe I don’t understand what you mean by “flex doesn’t matter” and “shaft flex is a lie.” Correct, manufacturers shafts are a lie 80% of the time. However, getting a CUSTOM BUILD job from a CUSTOM BUILDER is what’s more important (just like the tour players get).

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          RG

          Apr 22, 2015 at 9:17 pm

          First off there is no industry standard. But deeper down the rabbit hole is this, you think that I couldn’t hit a junior flex club? Well I haven’t hit juniors but I have played with A flex and X flex in irons and woods let me tell you, it’s all about the strike. It was shocking at first because I totally believed the hype.
          Look if You feel comfortable with X or S play that it’s fine. If you feel comfortable with R or A, that’s fine too. But just understand it has everything to do with strike and very little to do with flex.
          Now Tour Pros and Custom builds. Yup Length, Loft and LIe angle are important. But Jim Furyk just won on the tour with an “R” flex shaft in his irons. Do you think you hit it better than him? Now Do you think Jim struggles to get an X or S in the air? Do you think Jim couldn’t hit X or S or even a juniors flex well? That dode could take a rope with a rock tied to it and hit a golf ball better than me or you. He plays R because it “feels” good to him, and his ball flight fits his eye, which is really all that matters.
          In the end, don’t believe me research yourself, the truth is out there.

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19. 

    LF

    Apr 19, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    Well it just went into a playoff where I live…spoiler, so thanks for that

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20. 

    Mike

    Apr 19, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    Glad to see Furyk win one

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21. 

    Dan

    Apr 19, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    Lol regular flex. Hit the gym, Jim.

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      MarkNado

      Apr 19, 2015 at 5:29 pm

      He won

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        Dan

        Apr 19, 2015 at 6:03 pm

        What’s your point?

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          RobN

          Apr 19, 2015 at 6:18 pm

          It’s OK Mark, Dan’s obviously one of those ego players that wouldn’t be caught dead without having stiff shafts in his clubs, despite his 82 mph swing.

          Point is, “flex” means nothing. Whatever is printed on his shafts means nothing. What the actual CPU of the shaft is, is what matters. If it works for Jim, that’s all that matters. He has no ego to stroke.

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            Dan

            Apr 19, 2015 at 6:42 pm

            I’m obviously joking and you guys couldn’t see it.

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              The dude

              Apr 20, 2015 at 12:08 am

              Ha…reading you loud and clear….now F&ck off

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            RG

            Apr 22, 2015 at 3:32 pm

            100% “flex” is meaningless, but a great marketing tool.

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              Leo

              Apr 24, 2015 at 11:05 pm

              I’m just glad to read the discussion, but I’m just as confused as when I started.!! I’m just so tired of spending so much money, and I just wanted to know if replacing my shaft on my R11 driver is really going to make that much of a difference??? I couldn’t believe the price of some of the shafts.!!! My R11 by Talor made has a stiff shaft, or at least that’s what the shaft indicates with the S marked on the side of the shaft… But I’m sure you’re all familiar with all of the sales personnel at any equipment store.!!! They just want to make the sale.!!! I can’t begin to tell you’s how many times I’ve fell for it, hook line and sinker!!! I’ve spent thousands on new clubs, and gadgets!! And my skill level is still the same!!! Well at the very least I found your discussion very entertaining!!! Lol.!!!

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