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Putter Fitting: Why everyone can benefit from Quintic

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This is the first installment of a four-part series from Modern Golf on putter fitting and Quintic System. 

When it comes to putting, everyone thinks they’re an expert.

At least once, we have all been told what we were doing wrong on the putting green and how we SHOULD fix it. We see this universally — most golfers want to help other golfers get better. But are they really helping, and is the information they’re sharing accurate?

The truth is, without quantifying the given information, the answer is usually no. A system we use at Modern Golf called Quintic Ball Roll provides these answers by accurately measuring the interaction between the clubhead and ball. By doing so, a golfer can identify why they have certain habits. More importantly, they’ll know how to make the proper changes. Tangible results are the key to helping golfers with their putting technique and thus, the study of ball dynamics is here to stay.

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The Quintic Ball Roll portable unit consists of software and a high-speed camera that can be connected to any computer. Quintic captures 14 different data points at up to 360 frames per second from the beginning of the stroke to the first 16 inches of the putt. What makes Quintic most useful is that it gives ball data as well as clubhead data graphically and numerically. This allows the golfers and fitters to identify how the head of the putter moves through impact and how this affects the roll of the ball. Making changes to the stroke and the putter becomes easier as information is quantified.

Golfers of all skill levels can benefit from using Quintic. For a novice golfer, identifying something very basic in their putting stroke can have a measurable impact on lowering their scores. Something as simple as controlling launch angle can take strokes off ones game.

Some of the best players in the world are also using Quintic on a daily basis. Quintic has helped Rory McIlroy, the world’s No. 1-ranked golfer, as well as FedEx Cup Champion Henrik Stenson and Open Championship winner Darren Clarke, to name a few. For these players, making or missing a putt can be the difference between winning and losing, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in prize money.

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Quintic Screenshot: See the closed putter face at impact and how much the ball moves offline.

At Modern Golf, Quintic plays an integral role in our fitting experience. It eliminates any guess work involved in selecting a putter or fitting a player’s current putter. Through the collection of Quintic data, a professional fitter can then accurately and scientifically start to adjust an existing putter OR fit golfers into a putter that’s more suitable for their stroke.

Golfers can also instantly see why they may have certain tendencies. For example, if they have an inclination to miss putts on the left side from inside 10 feet, they may have a face angle issue. To make putts from inside 8 feet, we’ve learned that the face angle needs to be less than a 1 degree open or closed to the target. By identifying the face angle error we can help golfers eliminate that miss. In addition, all the data is saved for future reference to measure improvement.

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Quintic Screenshot: A square face at impact.

Statistically, the greater mass of golfers are not getting any better at golf. How can this be with all the advances in knowledge and technology? We think it’s the inability of golfers to see tangible results. Taking a final exam and not wanting to know your grade wouldn’t make much sense if your goal was to get smarter. Players can see results faster if they can identify their flaws and then work to remedy those flaws. Turning three putts into two, two putts into one — that is how to lower your scores. Quintic gives golfers this real and reliable data. That why if you are not using Quintic, you are instantly at a disadvantage.

Sadly, most golfers who haven’t used Quintic are, more than likely, practicing the wrong technique. A golfer’s perception of what they think they are doing versus what they are actually doing is often skewed. So the solution is simple — no more guess work. No more relying on what Mr. Smith told you on the putting green just before you teed off on day one of your Club Championship. Whether you are a scratch golfer or 30-handicap, we guarantee results using Quintic Ball Roll.

During a one-hour putter fitting (it costs $100), our professional fitters will accurately adjust a golfer’s existing putter or fit them into a putter that is more suitable for their stroke and ball roll. Players will leave with a fully fit putter and data for their future reference.

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Modern Golf was founded in 2011 and has established a reputation as Canada’s Premier golf club-fitting experience. With a brand agnostic approach to club-fitting, a 13,000 square foot state-of-the-art headquarters including a PGA Tour caliber workshop, Modern Golf can provide a demonstrable improvement to your golf game. Regardless of our customers’ age, gender, or skill level, our highly trained club-fitters and experienced club builders can custom tailor our customers’ golf equipment to produce improved on-course results. The Modern Golf team is excited to share their expertise with the GolfWRX Community. www.moderngolf.ca

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  1. Tiger and Rory

    Feb 27, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Little known fact: A putt that skips goes very straight. Air has less resistance than the ground. Speed is determined by force and loft at impact.

    “True roll” is a BS marketing term used to sell stuff.

    • Joey

      Sep 30, 2018 at 6:31 am

      May as well putt with a 60 degree lob wedge then Einstein.

  2. Mike

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    How does this device differ from SAM Putting Lab? Anyone know?

    • Brian

      Jan 30, 2015 at 6:23 am

      Quintic is different from SAM because nothing attaches to your putter. It reads the putter as well as the ball roll. While it is important to have a proper putter it is still more important to be able to roll the ball on the intended line consistently with a consistent roll. This system shows lots of data that relates to both.

    • MGolfer

      Jan 30, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      SAM reads the direct 3D movement of the putter with highly accurate technology. So all aspects of the full movement can be analyzed.
      For the ball roll the SAM only does a estimate on how the putter face comes to the ball. There is a spin and direction prediction which is based on the physics of contact of putter face and ball.

      The Quintic also can measure parts of the putter movement with the extended software package. Difference to SAM is that the analysis is based on a sticker on the putter head and image analysis algorithms. This will allow quite good readings for position and maybe loft. But for face angles or path or lie the accuracy will be not as good as SAM. Also the putter can only be analysed in the view of the camera – which is limited to a short range around impact.

      The ball roll is very important for a good putt. However, the putter movement is what controls the ball roll in the end. If you want to improve this you need the full picture of the putter movement to know what to change. Optimized putting stroke will automatically lead to better ball roll.

      • Tiger and Rory

        Feb 27, 2015 at 12:30 pm

        ^ this is exactly it. A camera based system from the side doesn’t capture the whole picture. When the ball is not directly in front of the lens then what? I’ll take a Puttlab any day over this infomercial.

  3. MAM

    Jan 29, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    Great article and every article ever written is basically an advertisement for everyone no matter what it is. Especially in the golf industry to be successful you have to advertise your self 100%. And the comment about the glass door. Lol.

    Great article and play well

  4. Philip

    Jan 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    There is nothing quite like the acid test of placing a club in your bag, which is why I have decided to go the old-fashion way of putter fitting and purchase a bunch of cheap old classics of high quality and various styles to see what type fits me the best. I’m also doing the same for my irons and shafts.

    I find in the store or in a booth feels different from the course and driving range, and as such the results are not accurate.

  5. Modern Golf Staff

    Jan 29, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Guys,

    We appreciate the early feedback. However it is important for us to mention that this article is not designed to promote our facility, it is the first of a 4 part series on how our technologies can help the average golfer. This article is just the introduction to how we at Modern Golf use Quintic Ball Roll technology.

    We appreciate you taking the time to read the article and we look forward to hearing your feedback on the remainder of this series.

    Team MG

  6. Bill

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:14 am

    As a frequent reader of this site, I really hate clicking on an article only for it to be an advertisement

  7. Jason Lloyd

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:06 am

    I’m confused…

    Is this an advertisement? If it is, it’s not a good one. I’d at least get the door leaning against the wall out of the picture and maybe have a club-fitter in the picture???

    Is it an article? If it is, it’s very poorly written and wrx needs to step it up.

    Quintic is very cool tech, but it’s obviously not solving this guys problem of his eyes way too far over the ball! Maybe he should get a lesson and not a fitting.

  8. frendy

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Why is this piece filed under ‘Opinion and Analysis’?

  9. Alex

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:20 am

    I’ve seen quite a number of golfers with strange putting techniques and lots of confidence hole out from everywhere. I do believe putting is something personal, subjetive and the right technique works fine to become an average putter.

    Good putters are above all confident on the green and they repeat the same swing over and over.

  10. Brian

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:55 am

    While this is a glorified commercial posed as journalism, I think it’s good information. I just got fitted for a full bag last month after 4 years of playing. The putter info was most helpful. The fitter bent my putter so that the ball rolled pure off the face without any skipping. And told me that I need a 45 degree too hang mallet. Good luck finding those!

    Get fit. Anywhere that is reputable.

    • M

      Jan 29, 2015 at 11:21 pm

      Brian – Ping makes putter that fit straight all the way up to strong arc (large rotation putters). Technically a mallet with that much toe hang will very hard to produce due to the CG of the clubhead being further from the face.

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