Equipment
Making golf easier: Single length vs hybrid irons? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing directions to take to make golf as easy as possible. WRXer ‘SugarLandGolfer’ kicks off the discussion, saying:
“I see two paths to make the game easier:
1) Hybrid irons with shafts to keep the flight down
2) Single length irons
I did a demo day with Cleveland recent and tried the launchers with i95 steelfiber shafts, and they felt amazing. Only hit the 8 iron, and it felt like hitting the ball with a sledgehammer. However, I’m still concerned about the longer clubs. Hence single length.
If you were making the easiest to play set, which direction would you go, and why?”
And our members have been having their say on the matter in our forums.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- NoTalentLefty: “Lessons for sure, but there are a few ways to do it. Hybrids for the 3 thru 5 6 or 7 irons is also a way. Offset in irons and hybrids, fairway woods, etc. Single length, as you say. It’s a great thought, but the only way the game got easier for me was golfing a lot. Then as I got older and was familiar with the swing, I filled in what clubs to play. I’m 60+ now and the only club I never Been comfortable with since the advent of the 400+ CC head Is the driver. Godspeed on your search.”
- dlygrisse: “I like the idea of going shorter steps between clubs, say 1 /4 to 3/8”. I believe some custom fitters think this is the way to go. I’ve also seen sets where the short irons are say 8-LW at 36” than the 5-7 are 37” and the long irons or hybrids are 38”. I’ve always wanted to try a similar set.”
- jomatty: “If you wanted something super easy but not hybrids, I would look at the Cleveland uhx. I’ve got a 20 degree 4 iron, and it is very easy to hit. Going to a Cleveland launcher style club does make it a lot easier t9 hit the ball in the air and make solid contact. It has really helped my wife and is something I would consider.”
- pinestreetgolf: “Neither one. It’s like asking us which is easier to put on, a small shirt or an XXL shirt? Well, it kinda matters what size you are. Your swing determines which is “easier”. The question itself belies a fundamental misunderstanding about how to shoot a low score, and that is correlating golf and golf swing. Your basic question is “which of these clubs makes playing golf swing easier” when that has relatively little to do with your score. Golf is a game of decisions. It is much closer to chess than tennis. You score lower when you make better decisions. Mechanics and equipment help (a lot) but they do it inside the context of an overall game and the way you swing. There is no objective answer to getting better except figuring out how to get the ball in the hole in fewer strokes. There is no answer to this question.”
Entire Thread: “Making golf easier: Single length vs hybrid irons?”
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Whats in the Bag
Sam Burns WITB 2024 (April)
- Sam Burns’ what’s in the bag accurate as of the RBC Heritage.
Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond S (9 degrees @10)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 7 TX
3-wood: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond T (15 degrees @16)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X
Hybrid: Callaway Apex UW (21 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X
Irons: Callaway Apex TCB ’24 (4-AW)
Shafts: Project X 6.5 (4-PW), True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 Tour Issue (AW)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (56-14F @55), WedgeWorks Proto (60-T)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold S400 Tour Issue (56, 60)
Putter: Odyssey Ai-One #7S
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Align
Ball: Callaway Chrome Tour X
Check out more in-hand photos of Sam Burns’ WITB in the forums.
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Whats in the Bag
Will Zalatoris WITB 2024 (April)
- Will Zalatoris’ what’s in the bag accurate as of the RBC Heritage.
Driver: Titleist TSR2 (9 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Black 7 X (44.5 inches)
3-wood: Titleist TSi2 (15 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 8 X
Irons: Titleist T350 (3), Titleist T150 (4-PW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Prototype G.O.S.T. 10 ST X (3), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (4-PW)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (50-08F, 54-10S @55, 60-04T)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Putter: L.A.B. Golf Mezz.1 Max
Grips: Golf Pride Z-Grip Cord
See more photos of Will Zalatoris’ WITB in the forums.
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Equipment
New Level launches new 480-DB irons, blending performance and forgiveness
New Level has been making some really good golf equipment since the company started up in 2018. Offering irons that are more geared towards the better player, precision has been a fundamental philosophy for New Level in creating irons and wedges.
The 480 line of irons has been the flagship of the brand, and the newest member of that team is the 480-DB iron that is now open to pre-orders. A new cavity design is what the whole 480 line is about, and the 480-DB takes advantage of that with added ball speed and a larger sweet spot.
For players who require their irons to offer the best feel, rest assured the DB is a fully forged (from 1020 carbon steel) one-piece golf club. No multi-piece, hollow design with this iron.
While the 480-DB is the next generation of the popular 902-OS, New Level didn’t follow the current trend in golf by chasing distance with the new iron. They actually weakened the lofts on the 480-DB with the spec sheet showing a 33-degree 7-iron and 45-degree pitching wedge. These lofts allow the DB to have less offset while still offering consistent distance off the face.
A traditional design was also at the forefront of the new irons to make sure that golfers with an eye for detail can look down at them with confidence that they will perform under any condition.
A weight low in the back cavity will allow their master club builders to dial in the perfect weight for the golfer, no matter the length or shaft being used. New Level believes that the new 480-DB is one of the most forgiving one-piece forged irons on the market today. A pre-worn leading edge on the sole should get through the turf quickly and with reduced digging for better turf interaction.
You can pre-order the New Level 480-DB right now on the New Level website.
Pricing specs availability
- Irons: 4-PW
- Price: $149/oron
- Availability: Pre-order
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Daniel Repp
Oct 7, 2022 at 1:41 am
I have both and used them extensively. I like the consistency of the single length and the feel of the hybrids. Because of an injured elbow, it hurts to hit regular irons but not the hybrids. So now I’m considering single length hybrids. Since they are usually 7-iron length, I might start with the 8 thru PW for starters and then maybe complete the set if I like them.
ChipNRun
Oct 2, 2020 at 1:21 pm
Tried the Cobra single-length irons in detail on a low-atttendance demo day a couple of years back.
Had about same distance between 4i-5i and 5i-6i, and the wedges were hard to handle on partial shots (too long). Just didn’t work for me.
As for hybrid irons with low launch (?), if it works for you. For normal hybrids, 3H and 4H work, but higher hybrids just fly too high. I turn 70 in November, and I make my adjustments in more traditional paths.
I am going for lighter shafts, but normal D1~D2 swingweights so I can feel head at top. Lots of different balance feels in graphite shafts for irons, need to find the right one.
Irons with hollow heads + higher lofts (these get ball into the air) work for me, although hollow heads are “too much of a good thing” in wedges.
Warren Stewart
Oct 1, 2020 at 8:26 pm
If we’re just answering what makes it easier, I’d lean towards same length clubs. My wife’s game is now more enjoyable because of her same length clubs; it takes the guessing part away of how far to stand and making a wider or shallow arc. Now easy doesn’t always translate to better scoring. For me, the single length was rubbish.