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Forum Thread of the Day: “Why Adam Scott believes driving is no longer a skill on tour”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from KrazyTrain18 who created a discussion dedicated to Adam Scott’s comments that the art of driving will disappear unless officials build “smarter golf courses.”

Scott was speaking to the AAP following his third round at the BMW Championship where he stated

“They haven’t figured out yet that long means nothing to us; you can’t build it long enough. I’m not (surprised to see low scores at Medinah); if a golf course is soft we are just going to tear it apart.   I’m not challenging (PGA Tour officials and course designers) to build longer golf courses; I’m challenging them to build smarter golf courses. If you require us to shape tee shots to get it in play we’re going to struggle.

“(Now) we just play straight, everything is straight. While there is an option to go over trees and over bunkers, it is just relentless. The driver is the most forgiving club in the bag now; it’s just swing as hard as you can and get it down there far. It’s not a skilful part of the game anymore and it’s really unfair for some guys who are great drivers of the golf ball. I don’t think their talents are showing up as much as they should.”

Here are what some our members have been saying in our forum concerning Scott’s comments, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • JaNelson38: “Been saying it here for a long time – shorter courses with more angles and hazards to make landing areas less accessible and poor shots penalized.”
  • imakaveli: “Thanks Adam Scott for telling the truth they don’t want to accept. Apart for some rare exceptions course we see every week are dull and lead to boring tournaments.”
  • dlygrisse: “Roll back COR. Huge mistake by USGA, the long hitters picked up 50 yards, the short hitter maybe 1/2 that.  Make the ball spin more off the driver. If the ball spun off the driver like it did with balata it would reduce the high flat bombs and make them work the ball and reduce carry and rollout. You used to have to make a decision with the ball. Do I pick a ball with spin, or distance? Now you get both. Playing a soft cover ball should add 1000 rpms to the driver.”
  • el_b00t: “Rollback drivers, everyone plays the same ball, and let the rough grow in certain areas to penalize the long hitters that are off-target. I believe they touched on this in the Trap Draw podcast ‘commissioner for a day’.”

Entire Thread: “Why Adam Scott believes driving is no longer a skill on tour”

Gianni is the Managing Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at [email protected]

8 Comments

8 Comments

  1. George

    Aug 21, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    He’s got a point. Make the course as long as you want, but it will be absolutely dominated by players today. People said the 2013 US Open at Merion would be a joke and torn apart by tour players at <7,000 yards. The rough was more than a penalty stroke so actually placing drives with skill was imperative. Angles and shaping were important as well. Obviously the putter is what ultimately wins tournaments, but if a player can just bomb a driver around without a penalty to a bad swing, they'll be looking wedges into the green and so many more makable birdie putts to win tournaments than players who aren't top tier in driving distance.

  2. Johnny thunders

    Aug 20, 2019 at 11:07 am

    Building more challenging course ain’t going to happen. Cost too much. Rolling back COR for ain’t going to happen as equipment manufactures will not support it and the ruling bodies don’t want to back lash from amateurs. Only chance would be is to come out with a pro only ball that can reduce the distances. Let everyone else play their new $500 drivers and soft distance balls.

    Give the pros a challenging ball. And one ball they all would play. Like car racing with spec engines and tires,

  3. Caroline

    Aug 20, 2019 at 9:17 am

    Very important for the equipment companies that the pros always have a chance to shoot under par. Safe to say any week the winning score is 18 or more under that the course was set up too easy. Both TV and in person viewing would never survive if constant winning scores were more near par. A couple times a year there is the odd course set up (some majors) that are really set up for only the best players, but the powers that be understand it has to be limited.l No one is going to pay $1,000 for a driver, $3,000 for irons, $600 for a putter and $50 a dozen for golf balls if pros can only shoot par with them.

  4. Dan

    Aug 19, 2019 at 4:34 pm

    0 creativity required to play pro golf anymore. sad

  5. Brandon

    Aug 19, 2019 at 3:22 pm

    I wonder if Adam thinks putting is a skill… Maybe the problem is he thinks too much.

  6. Acemandrake

    Aug 19, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    Firm & fast will raise scores.

  7. Scratchscorer

    Aug 19, 2019 at 11:09 am

    Rolling back equipment only increases the advantage longer players have. Adam Scott is right, you have to create angles where certain shot shapes are required to put the ball in play. We also have to accept that a long player who can find the fairway should have an advantage, and doesn’t need to be mitigated.

  8. Ryan

    Aug 19, 2019 at 10:08 am

    600 yard par 5s are hit in two, 500 yard par 4s are driver 8 iron, 250 yard Par 3s, are 4 irons. What’s next a 700 yard par 5? 600 yard par 4s? A course that is 9000 yards? When the player just sees the course in front of them they bomb away. Shorten the course, make tricky angles, hazards, etc and those same guys last week would have been lucky to break -10 for the winning score.

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Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:

“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.

I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.

I am currently looking Callaway’s CB12 and Cleveland’s CBZ. Anyone have thoughts on these? Or recommendations of other wedges that I should check out?”

And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • boggyman: “CBZs are amazing wedges!”
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Entire Thread: “Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss”

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In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:

“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.

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Still trying to dial in a final iron shaft choice, so have a few contenders that I will be testing. Will be moving away from my current Steelfiber i95 S parallel to lighter and softer

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And our members have been sharing their reactions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Mikey_HACKilroy: “That length cut costs you a fair amount in swing points. I’d posit the length mattered more than the weight because a 115g shaft isn’t going to actually add enough back after cutting an inch off. Does it mean 115 would ultimately work? Hard to say. Maybe try a 1/2″ cut and add 2g to the head to compensate assuming the 7i is 37″ long. Maybe that will feel better. It translates to the same ~D2 you’re swinging at with the 95g shafts (estimated based on common weight, but you can weigh your parts on your own obviously).”
  • Stuart_G: “Your process is good – keep at it and trust it.”

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PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react

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A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.

The original version of the brand’s Secret Weapon launched in January of 2025, with the second version also featuring four distinct weight ports in the head and coming with 13-degree of loft.

In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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Entire Thread: “PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react”

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