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Forum Thread of the Day: “Why Adam Scott believes driving is no longer a skill on tour”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from KrazyTrain18 who created a discussion dedicated to Adam Scott’s comments that the art of driving will disappear unless officials build “smarter golf courses.”
Scott was speaking to the AAP following his third round at the BMW Championship where he stated
“They haven’t figured out yet that long means nothing to us; you can’t build it long enough. I’m not (surprised to see low scores at Medinah); if a golf course is soft we are just going to tear it apart. I’m not challenging (PGA Tour officials and course designers) to build longer golf courses; I’m challenging them to build smarter golf courses. If you require us to shape tee shots to get it in play we’re going to struggle.
“(Now) we just play straight, everything is straight. While there is an option to go over trees and over bunkers, it is just relentless. The driver is the most forgiving club in the bag now; it’s just swing as hard as you can and get it down there far. It’s not a skilful part of the game anymore and it’s really unfair for some guys who are great drivers of the golf ball. I don’t think their talents are showing up as much as they should.”
Here are what some our members have been saying in our forum concerning Scott’s comments, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- JaNelson38: “Been saying it here for a long time – shorter courses with more angles and hazards to make landing areas less accessible and poor shots penalized.”
- imakaveli: “Thanks Adam Scott for telling the truth they don’t want to accept. Apart for some rare exceptions course we see every week are dull and lead to boring tournaments.”
- dlygrisse: “Roll back COR. Huge mistake by USGA, the long hitters picked up 50 yards, the short hitter maybe 1/2 that. Make the ball spin more off the driver. If the ball spun off the driver like it did with balata it would reduce the high flat bombs and make them work the ball and reduce carry and rollout. You used to have to make a decision with the ball. Do I pick a ball with spin, or distance? Now you get both. Playing a soft cover ball should add 1000 rpms to the driver.”
- el_b00t: “Rollback drivers, everyone plays the same ball, and let the rough grow in certain areas to penalize the long hitters that are off-target. I believe they touched on this in the Trap Draw podcast ‘commissioner for a day’.”
Entire Thread: “Why Adam Scott believes driving is no longer a skill on tour”
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In our forums, our members have been discussing players irons. WRXer ‘NorthTXGolf’ is on the hunt for some new irons but is putting a priority on forgiveness, and has reached out to fellow members who have been sharing their thoughts and advice on the subject in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Sam217: “i230 has got to be one of the most forgiving players irons available. Cobra King Tour another. Don’t sleep on the New Level 480 DB coming out soon.”
- RangeBaller: “ZX5/ZX7 and i230 should definitely be in your testing pool.”
- YAMS49: “Another I210 homie here… Very highly recommended if you want/need spin and a consistent yardage.”
- golf-RN: “I second the Cobra King Tour irons. I am not the greatest ballstriker by any stretch of the imagination and I find the King Tours very forgiving. Toe strikes might lose 5 or 6 yards with no directional loss. You definitely feel the miss though lol but mishits from the center aren’t punished too hard regarding distance.”
Entire Thread: “Most forgiving Players irons? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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In our forums, our members have been discussing Mini-Drivers and accompanying shafts. WRXer ‘JamesFisher1990’ is about to purchase a BRNR Mini and is torn on what shaft weight to use, and our members have been sharing their thoughts and set ups in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PARETO: “New BRNR at 13.5. Took it over to TXG (Club Champ but TXG will always rule) in Calgary for a fit. Took the head down to 12, stuck in a Graphite Design AD at 3 wood length and 60g. Presto- numbers that rivaled my G430Max but with waaaaay tighter dispersion. Win.”
- driveandputtmachine: “Still playing a MIni 300. The head was only 208, so I ordered a heavier weight and play it at 3 wood length. I am playing a Ventus Red 70. I play 70 grams in my fairways. I use it mainly to hit draws off the tee. When I combine me, a driver, and trying to hit a draw it does not work out well most of the time. So the MIni is for that. As an aside, I have not hit the newest BRNR, but the previous model wasn’t great off the deck. The 300 Mini is very good off the deck.”
- JAM01: “Ok, just put the BRNR in the bag along side a QI10 max and a QI10 3 wood. A load of top end redundancy. But, I have several holes at my two home courses where the flight and accuracy of the mini driver helps immensely. Mine is stock Proforce 65 at 13.5, I could see a heavier shaft, but to normal flex, as a nice alternative.”
Entire Thread: “What’s the perfect Mini-Driver/Shaft combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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In our forums, our members have been discussing one of the new sensations in the world of golf – Ludvig Aberg. The 24-year-old finished solo second at the Masters a couple of weeks ago, and gained many plaudits, including from several WRXers.
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One member, RoyalMustang, took to the forums to explain why Aberg is now their favorite player, saying:
“I loved the way the Ludvig was out there, having a great time, not taking himself or the situation too seriously. Even after the double at 11, he was like “well, that’s golf!” Loose and relaxed: that’s the way to play. It’s obvious he loves what he’s doing, he loves the big moments, and he loves being a part of it all.
Arnold Palmer was viewed that way. Just like Brooks Robinson was forever viewed as not just a great baseball player, but a great human being and friend to Baltimore.”
And our members have been reacting and sharing their positive takes on the young Swede.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- redfirebird08: “Ludvig has a great attitude, a great smile, and a great golf swing.”
- otto6457: “I’m very lucky to have talked with Ludde several times at the Rawls Course at Texas Tech. He’s a truly nice guy and very friendly. Always said hello when we passed each other in the club house and was always smiling. Watching him hit balls on the range was a joy. He has “that sound” and trajectory to die for. There were many times he was out on the range in 30+ mph winds just hitting the most beautiful shots that just seemed to ignore the wind. World class ball striker. And yes……..I am a fan boy.”
- konklifer: “I like him. In an era of endless waggles and laboring, his swing and pace of play are a joy to watch.
Entire Thread: “Why Ludvig Aberg is my new favorite player – GolfWRXers discuss”
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George
Aug 21, 2019 at 3:21 pm
He’s got a point. Make the course as long as you want, but it will be absolutely dominated by players today. People said the 2013 US Open at Merion would be a joke and torn apart by tour players at <7,000 yards. The rough was more than a penalty stroke so actually placing drives with skill was imperative. Angles and shaping were important as well. Obviously the putter is what ultimately wins tournaments, but if a player can just bomb a driver around without a penalty to a bad swing, they'll be looking wedges into the green and so many more makable birdie putts to win tournaments than players who aren't top tier in driving distance.
Johnny thunders
Aug 20, 2019 at 11:07 am
Building more challenging course ain’t going to happen. Cost too much. Rolling back COR for ain’t going to happen as equipment manufactures will not support it and the ruling bodies don’t want to back lash from amateurs. Only chance would be is to come out with a pro only ball that can reduce the distances. Let everyone else play their new $500 drivers and soft distance balls.
Give the pros a challenging ball. And one ball they all would play. Like car racing with spec engines and tires,
Caroline
Aug 20, 2019 at 9:17 am
Very important for the equipment companies that the pros always have a chance to shoot under par. Safe to say any week the winning score is 18 or more under that the course was set up too easy. Both TV and in person viewing would never survive if constant winning scores were more near par. A couple times a year there is the odd course set up (some majors) that are really set up for only the best players, but the powers that be understand it has to be limited.l No one is going to pay $1,000 for a driver, $3,000 for irons, $600 for a putter and $50 a dozen for golf balls if pros can only shoot par with them.
Dan
Aug 19, 2019 at 4:34 pm
0 creativity required to play pro golf anymore. sad
Brandon
Aug 19, 2019 at 3:22 pm
I wonder if Adam thinks putting is a skill… Maybe the problem is he thinks too much.
Acemandrake
Aug 19, 2019 at 12:51 pm
Firm & fast will raise scores.
Scratchscorer
Aug 19, 2019 at 11:09 am
Rolling back equipment only increases the advantage longer players have. Adam Scott is right, you have to create angles where certain shot shapes are required to put the ball in play. We also have to accept that a long player who can find the fairway should have an advantage, and doesn’t need to be mitigated.
Ryan
Aug 19, 2019 at 10:08 am
600 yard par 5s are hit in two, 500 yard par 4s are driver 8 iron, 250 yard Par 3s, are 4 irons. What’s next a 700 yard par 5? 600 yard par 4s? A course that is 9000 yards? When the player just sees the course in front of them they bomb away. Shorten the course, make tricky angles, hazards, etc and those same guys last week would have been lucky to break -10 for the winning score.