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Putter Fitting: Why everyone can benefit from Quintic

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This is the first installment of a four-part series from Modern Golf on putter fitting and Quintic System. 

When it comes to putting, everyone thinks they’re an expert.

At least once, we have all been told what we were doing wrong on the putting green and how we SHOULD fix it. We see this universally — most golfers want to help other golfers get better. But are they really helping, and is the information they’re sharing accurate?

The truth is, without quantifying the given information, the answer is usually no. A system we use at Modern Golf called Quintic Ball Roll provides these answers by accurately measuring the interaction between the clubhead and ball. By doing so, a golfer can identify why they have certain habits. More importantly, they’ll know how to make the proper changes. Tangible results are the key to helping golfers with their putting technique and thus, the study of ball dynamics is here to stay.

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The Quintic Ball Roll portable unit consists of software and a high-speed camera that can be connected to any computer. Quintic captures 14 different data points at up to 360 frames per second from the beginning of the stroke to the first 16 inches of the putt. What makes Quintic most useful is that it gives ball data as well as clubhead data graphically and numerically. This allows the golfers and fitters to identify how the head of the putter moves through impact and how this affects the roll of the ball. Making changes to the stroke and the putter becomes easier as information is quantified.

Golfers of all skill levels can benefit from using Quintic. For a novice golfer, identifying something very basic in their putting stroke can have a measurable impact on lowering their scores. Something as simple as controlling launch angle can take strokes off ones game.

Some of the best players in the world are also using Quintic on a daily basis. Quintic has helped Rory McIlroy, the world’s No. 1-ranked golfer, as well as FedEx Cup Champion Henrik Stenson and Open Championship winner Darren Clarke, to name a few. For these players, making or missing a putt can be the difference between winning and losing, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in prize money.

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Quintic Screenshot: See the closed putter face at impact and how much the ball moves offline.

At Modern Golf, Quintic plays an integral role in our fitting experience. It eliminates any guess work involved in selecting a putter or fitting a player’s current putter. Through the collection of Quintic data, a professional fitter can then accurately and scientifically start to adjust an existing putter OR fit golfers into a putter that’s more suitable for their stroke.

Golfers can also instantly see why they may have certain tendencies. For example, if they have an inclination to miss putts on the left side from inside 10 feet, they may have a face angle issue. To make putts from inside 8 feet, we’ve learned that the face angle needs to be less than a 1 degree open or closed to the target. By identifying the face angle error we can help golfers eliminate that miss. In addition, all the data is saved for future reference to measure improvement.

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Quintic Screenshot: A square face at impact.

Statistically, the greater mass of golfers are not getting any better at golf. How can this be with all the advances in knowledge and technology? We think it’s the inability of golfers to see tangible results. Taking a final exam and not wanting to know your grade wouldn’t make much sense if your goal was to get smarter. Players can see results faster if they can identify their flaws and then work to remedy those flaws. Turning three putts into two, two putts into one — that is how to lower your scores. Quintic gives golfers this real and reliable data. That why if you are not using Quintic, you are instantly at a disadvantage.

Sadly, most golfers who haven’t used Quintic are, more than likely, practicing the wrong technique. A golfer’s perception of what they think they are doing versus what they are actually doing is often skewed. So the solution is simple — no more guess work. No more relying on what Mr. Smith told you on the putting green just before you teed off on day one of your Club Championship. Whether you are a scratch golfer or 30-handicap, we guarantee results using Quintic Ball Roll.

During a one-hour putter fitting (it costs $100), our professional fitters will accurately adjust a golfer’s existing putter or fit them into a putter that is more suitable for their stroke and ball roll. Players will leave with a fully fit putter and data for their future reference.

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Modern Golf was founded in 2011 and has established a reputation as Canada’s Premier golf club-fitting experience. With a brand agnostic approach to club-fitting, a 13,000 square foot state-of-the-art headquarters including a PGA Tour caliber workshop, Modern Golf can provide a demonstrable improvement to your golf game. Regardless of our customers’ age, gender, or skill level, our highly trained club-fitters and experienced club builders can custom tailor our customers’ golf equipment to produce improved on-course results. The Modern Golf team is excited to share their expertise with the GolfWRX Community. www.moderngolf.ca

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15 Comments

  1. Tiger and Rory

    Feb 27, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Little known fact: A putt that skips goes very straight. Air has less resistance than the ground. Speed is determined by force and loft at impact.

    “True roll” is a BS marketing term used to sell stuff.

    • Joey

      Sep 30, 2018 at 6:31 am

      May as well putt with a 60 degree lob wedge then Einstein.

  2. Mike

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    How does this device differ from SAM Putting Lab? Anyone know?

    • Brian

      Jan 30, 2015 at 6:23 am

      Quintic is different from SAM because nothing attaches to your putter. It reads the putter as well as the ball roll. While it is important to have a proper putter it is still more important to be able to roll the ball on the intended line consistently with a consistent roll. This system shows lots of data that relates to both.

    • MGolfer

      Jan 30, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      SAM reads the direct 3D movement of the putter with highly accurate technology. So all aspects of the full movement can be analyzed.
      For the ball roll the SAM only does a estimate on how the putter face comes to the ball. There is a spin and direction prediction which is based on the physics of contact of putter face and ball.

      The Quintic also can measure parts of the putter movement with the extended software package. Difference to SAM is that the analysis is based on a sticker on the putter head and image analysis algorithms. This will allow quite good readings for position and maybe loft. But for face angles or path or lie the accuracy will be not as good as SAM. Also the putter can only be analysed in the view of the camera – which is limited to a short range around impact.

      The ball roll is very important for a good putt. However, the putter movement is what controls the ball roll in the end. If you want to improve this you need the full picture of the putter movement to know what to change. Optimized putting stroke will automatically lead to better ball roll.

      • Tiger and Rory

        Feb 27, 2015 at 12:30 pm

        ^ this is exactly it. A camera based system from the side doesn’t capture the whole picture. When the ball is not directly in front of the lens then what? I’ll take a Puttlab any day over this infomercial.

  3. MAM

    Jan 29, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    Great article and every article ever written is basically an advertisement for everyone no matter what it is. Especially in the golf industry to be successful you have to advertise your self 100%. And the comment about the glass door. Lol.

    Great article and play well

  4. Philip

    Jan 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    There is nothing quite like the acid test of placing a club in your bag, which is why I have decided to go the old-fashion way of putter fitting and purchase a bunch of cheap old classics of high quality and various styles to see what type fits me the best. I’m also doing the same for my irons and shafts.

    I find in the store or in a booth feels different from the course and driving range, and as such the results are not accurate.

  5. Modern Golf Staff

    Jan 29, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Guys,

    We appreciate the early feedback. However it is important for us to mention that this article is not designed to promote our facility, it is the first of a 4 part series on how our technologies can help the average golfer. This article is just the introduction to how we at Modern Golf use Quintic Ball Roll technology.

    We appreciate you taking the time to read the article and we look forward to hearing your feedback on the remainder of this series.

    Team MG

  6. Bill

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:14 am

    As a frequent reader of this site, I really hate clicking on an article only for it to be an advertisement

  7. Jason Lloyd

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:06 am

    I’m confused…

    Is this an advertisement? If it is, it’s not a good one. I’d at least get the door leaning against the wall out of the picture and maybe have a club-fitter in the picture???

    Is it an article? If it is, it’s very poorly written and wrx needs to step it up.

    Quintic is very cool tech, but it’s obviously not solving this guys problem of his eyes way too far over the ball! Maybe he should get a lesson and not a fitting.

  8. frendy

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Why is this piece filed under ‘Opinion and Analysis’?

  9. Alex

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:20 am

    I’ve seen quite a number of golfers with strange putting techniques and lots of confidence hole out from everywhere. I do believe putting is something personal, subjetive and the right technique works fine to become an average putter.

    Good putters are above all confident on the green and they repeat the same swing over and over.

  10. Brian

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:55 am

    While this is a glorified commercial posed as journalism, I think it’s good information. I just got fitted for a full bag last month after 4 years of playing. The putter info was most helpful. The fitter bent my putter so that the ball rolled pure off the face without any skipping. And told me that I need a 45 degree too hang mallet. Good luck finding those!

    Get fit. Anywhere that is reputable.

    • M

      Jan 29, 2015 at 11:21 pm

      Brian – Ping makes putter that fit straight all the way up to strong arc (large rotation putters). Technically a mallet with that much toe hang will very hard to produce due to the CG of the clubhead being further from the face.

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Vincenzi’s LIV Golf Singapore betting preview: Course specialist ready to thrive once again

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After another strong showing in Australia, LIV Golf will head to Sentosa Golf Club in Singapore looking to build off of what was undoubtedly their best event to date.

Sentosa Golf Club sits on the southern tip of Singapore and is one of the most beautiful courses in the world. The course is more than just incredible scenically; it was also rated 55th in Golf Digest’s top-100 courses in 2022-2023 and has been consistently regarded as one of the best courses in Asia. Prior to being part of the LIV rotation, the course hosted the Singapore Open every year since 2005.

Sentosa Golf Club is a par 71 measuring 7,406 yards. The course will require precise ball striking and some length off the tee. It’s possible to go low due to the pristine conditions, but there are also plenty of hazards and difficult spots on the course that can bring double bogey into play in a hurry. The Bermudagrass greens are perfectly manicured, and the course has spent millions on the sub-air system to keep the greens rolling fast. I spoke to Asian Tour player, Travis Smyth, who described the greens as “the best [he’s] ever played.”

Davis Love III, who competed in a Singapore Open in 2019, also gushed over the condition of the golf course.

“I love the greens. They are fabulous,” the 21-time PGA Tour winner said.

Love III also spoke about other aspects of the golf course.

“The greens are great; the fairways are perfect. It is a wonderful course, and it’s tricky off the tee.”

“It’s a long golf course, and you get some long iron shots. It takes somebody hitting it great to hit every green even though they are big.”

As Love III said, the course can be difficult off the tee due to the length of the course and the trouble looming around every corner. It will take a terrific ball striking week to win at Sentosa Golf Club.

In his pre-tournament press conference last season, Phil Mickelson echoed many of the same sentiments.

“To play Sentosa effectively, you’re going to have a lot of shots from 160 to 210, a lot of full 6-, 7-, 8-iron shots, and you need to hit those really well and you need to drive the ball well.”

Golfers who excel from tee to green and can dial in their longer irons will have a massive advantage this week.

Stat Leaders at LIV Golf Adelaide:

Fairways Hit

1.) Louis Oosthuizen

2.) Anirban Lahiri

3.) Jon Rahm

4.) Brendan Steele

5.) Cameron Tringale

Greens in Regulation

1.) Brooks Koepka

2.) Brendan Steele

3.) Dean Burmester

4.) Cameron Tringale

5.) Anirban Lahiri

Birdies Made

1.) Brendan Steele

2.) Dean Burmester

3.) Thomas Pieters

4.) Patrick Reed

5.) Carlos Ortiz

LIV Golf Individual Standings:

1.) Joaquin Niemann

2.) Jon Rahm

3.) Dean Burmester

4.) Louis Oosthuizen

5.) Abraham Ancer

LIV Golf Team Standings:

1.) Crushers

2.) Legion XIII

3.) Torque

4.) Stinger GC

5.) Ripper GC

LIV Golf Singapore Picks

Sergio Garcia +3000 (DraftKings)

Sergio Garcia is no stranger to Sentosa Golf Club. The Spaniard won the Singapore Open in 2018 by five strokes and lost in a playoff at LIV Singapore last year to scorching hot Talor Gooch. Looking at the course setup, it’s no surprise that a player like Sergio has played incredible golf here. He’s long off the tee and is one of the better long iron players in the world when he’s in form. Garcia is also statistically a much better putter on Bermudagrass than he is on other putting surfaces. He’s putt extremely well on Sentosa’s incredibly pure green complexes.

This season, Garcia has two runner-up finishes, both of them being playoff losses. Both El Camaleon and Doral are courses he’s had success at in his career. The Spaniard is a player who plays well at his tracks, and Sentosa is one of them. I believe Sergio will get himself in the mix this week. Hopefully the third time is a charm in Singapore.

Paul Casey +3300 (FanDuel)

Paul Casey is in the midst of one of his best seasons in the five years or so. The results recently have been up and down, but he’s shown that when he’s on a golf course that suits his game, he’s amongst the contenders.

This season, Casey has finishes of T5 (LIV Las Vegas), T2 (LIV Hong Kong), and a 6th at the Singapore Classic on the DP World Tour. At his best, the Englishman is one of the best long iron players in the world, which makes him a strong fit for Sentosa. Despite being in poor form last season, he was able to fire a Sunday 63, which shows he can low here at the course.

It’s been three years since Casey has won a tournament (Omega Dubai Desert Classic in 2021), but he’s been one of the top players on LIV this season and I think he can get it done at some point this season.

Mito Pereira +5000 (Bet365)

Since Mito Pereira’s unfortunate demise at the 2022 PGA Championship, he’s been extremely inconsistent. However, over the past few months, the Chilean has played well on the International Series as well as his most recent LIV start. Mito finished 8th at LIV Adelaide, which was his best LIV finish this season.

Last year, Pereira finished 5th at LIV Singapore, shooting fantastic rounds of 67-66-66. It makes sense why Mito would like Sentosa, as preeminent ball strikers tend to rise to the challenge of the golf course. He’s a great long iron player who is long and straight off the tee.

Mito has some experience playing in Asia and is one of the most talented players on LIV who’s yet to get in the winner’s circle. I have questions about whether or not he can come through once in contention, but if he gets there, I’m happy to roll the dice.

Andy Ogletree +15000 (DraftKings)

Andy Ogletree is a player I expected to have a strong 2024 but struggled early in his first full season on LIV. After failing to crack the top-25 in any LIV event this year, the former U.S. Amateur champion finally figured things out, finished in a tie for 3rd at LIV Adelaide.

Ogletree should be incredible comfortable playing in Singapore. He won the International Series Qatar last year and finished T3 at the International Series Singapore. The 26-year-old was arguably the best player on the Asian Tour in 2023 and has been fantastic in the continent over the past 18 months.

If Ogletree has indeed found form, he looks to be an amazing value at triple-digit odds.

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Ryan: Lessons from the worst golf instructor in America

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In Tampa, there is a golf course that boasts carts that do not work, a water range, and a group of players none of which have any chance to break 80. The course is overseen by a staff of crusty men who have succeeded at nothing in life but ending up at the worst-run course in America. However, this place is no failure. With several other local courses going out of business — and boasting outstanding greens — the place is booked full.

While I came for the great greens, I stayed to watch our resident instructor; a poor-tempered, method teacher who caters to the hopeless. At first, it was simply hilarious. However, after months of listening and watching, something clicked. I realized I had a front-row seat to the worst golf instructor in America.

Here are some of my key takeaways.

Method Teacher

It is widely accepted that there are three types of golf instructors: system teachers, non-system teachers, and method teachers. Method teachers prescribe the same antidote for each student based on a preamble which teachers can learn in a couple day certification.

Method teaching allows anyone to be certified. This process caters to the lowest caliber instructor, creating the illusion of competency. This empowers these underqualified instructors with the moniker of “certified” to prey on the innocent and uninformed.

The Cult of Stack and Jilt

The Stack and Tilt website proudly boasts, “A golfer swings his hands inward in the backswing as opposed to straight back to 1) create power, similar to a field goal kicker moving his leg in an arc and 2) to promote a swing that is in-to-out, which produces a draw (and eliminates a slice).”

Now, let me tell you something, there is this law of the universe which says “energy can either be created or destroyed,” so either these guys are defying physics or they have no idea what they are taking about. Further, the idea that the first move of the backswing determines impact is conjecture with a splash of utter fantasy.

These are the pontifications of a method — a set of prescriptions applied to everyone with the hope of some success through the placebo effect. It is one thing for a naive student to believe, for a golf instructor to drink and then dispel this Kool-Aid is malpractice.

Fooled by Randomness

In flipping a coin, or even a March Madness bet, there is a 50-50 chance of success. In golf, especially for new players, results are asymmetric. Simply put: Anything can happen. The problem is that when bad instructors work with high handicappers, each and every shot gets its own diagnosis and prescription. Soon the student is overwhelmed.

Now here’s the sinister thing: The overwhelming information is by design. In this case, the coach is not trying to make you better, they are trying to make you reliant on them for information. A quasi Stockholm syndrome of codependency.

Practice

One of the most important scientists of the 20th century was Ivan Pavlov. As you might recall, he found that animals, including humans, could be conditioned into biological responses. In golf, the idea of practice has made millions of hackers salivate that they are one lesson or practice session from “the secret.”

Sunk Cost

The idea for the worst golf instructor is to create control and dependency so that clients ignore the sunk cost of not getting better. Instead, they are held hostage by the idea that they are one lesson or tip away from unlocking their potential.

Cliches

Cliches have the effect of terminating thoughts. However, they are the weapon of choice for this instructor. Add some hyperbole and students actually get no information. As a result, these players couldn’t play golf. When they did, they had no real scheme. With no idea what they are doing, they would descend into a spiral of no idea what to do, bad results, lower confidence, and running back to the lesson tee from more cliches.

The fact is that poor instruction is about conditioning players to become reliant members of your cult. To take away autonomy. To use practice as a form of control. To sell more golf lessons not by making people better but through the guise that without the teacher, the student can never reach their full potential. All under the umbrella of being “certified” (in a 2-day course!) and a melee of cliches.

This of course is not just happening at my muni but is a systemic problem around the country and around the world, the consequences of which are giving people a great reason to stop playing golf. But hey, at least it’s selling a lot of golf balls…

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Vincenzi’s 2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans betting preview

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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.

TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.

Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.

However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.

Past Winners at TPC Louisiana

  • 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
  • 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
  • 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
  • 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
  • 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
  • 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)

2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks

Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)

Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.

This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.

McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.

Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)

Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.

Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.

Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)

Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.

NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.

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