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LPGA blasted over ‘outright offensive’ provisions at Q-School event despite scorching heat

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On Thursday, over 300 players started their arduous run through the first stage of the 2022 LPGA and Epson Tour Q-school.

It’s an incredible number, and whilst spread across three courses – Dinah Shore and Palmer at Mission Hills, and Shadow Ridge at Palm Desert – rounds are sure to take longer than usual, and be boiling hot!

The hopefuls will initially look to complete 54 holes without a score of 88 or higher, all gaining an Epson card, with the top 100 gaining access to Stage II in October.

The enormous field contains seven Epson Tour players that will now have played for six weeks in a row, many admitting that the balance between rest and competition is vital, yet taking no time off to prepare for the desert heat. As Ryan French might say, “That’s grinding.”

The pressure to succeed here is as high as it is for any event, with the reward of a full main tour card in the dreams of many. Therefore, as a player, you would expect the best of treatment from the organizers.

Golfweek’s Beth Ann Nichols revealed on Twitter on Wednesday that they may not be the case!

Beth Ann let her followers know that at Mission Hills this week the temperature is well over 100 degrees, and whilst the players can use carts to get around, there is very little water available on the course.

Originally saying there was ‘no water…no snacks’, she agreed with one respondent that there was some water on the opening holes of each half at both of the Mission Hills courses, although commented:

“If I’m paying $2,500 for a tournament, I don’t think it’s too much to ask for water on the course in coolers like a standard event. Especially when it’s outrageously hot.”

Tweeters were very much in support of the exasperated Nichols, an outspoken and fervent supporter of the women’s game, with one pointing out the affluent area in which the event is set: “Wow that is kind of sad that those that run the event and collect all the entry fee $$ can’t provide drinks. Especially in Rancho Mirage.”

One thought was that Mission Hills may have been responding to the way it lost the Chevron Championship after a 51-year run, backed-up by another stating, “Why doesn’t the LPGA get it? Mission Hills doesn’t want you there!”

The LPGA amended its rules after many years of allowing amateur players to play all stages of Q-school, this year insisting that those that advance to the final, grueling, eight-round stage turn professional.

They will clearly need stamina from the very get-go and Beth’s followers were quick to back her up.

Of course, the weather is as hard to read as the outcome of any golf tournament and, yes; the courses have held the event for many years beforehand, but it is hard to believe that the organizers could not have made conditions at least a tad more comfortable.

Thankfully, on day two things were put right.

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  1. Carolyn

    Sep 8, 2022 at 10:10 pm

    Have known several home owners in the Mission Hills area and your spot on when you say many of them do not want the LPGA using their courses…they have absolutely hated having the public on their grounds during the LPGA event held their for years. On the other hand the cost of keeping up the courses has sky rocketed in the last 3 years and weather has really been ruff to deal with….would like to see how much money was paid to use the courses for this event…with players paying $2,500 to play (you do know more then 70% of players on EPSON tour do not make $2,500 a month even if they make 3 cuts…

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  14. Logan White

    Aug 24, 2022 at 11:09 am

    There is only so much water you can carry in your bag. I played a very nice course in WI in oppressive heat and humidity in June. Every other hole had packed coolers of 10oz bottled water (ice cold) on the tee box. It was a life saver. It seems to me the LPGA or who ever is in charge could insure the players are taken care of. It’s a big deal IMO.

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  19. Samantha Goober

    Aug 23, 2022 at 12:31 am

    I played in it and being over 110 everyday , they could splurge for water and bananas or something. It is true for 2500$ they basically put up a few signs and you never see the organizers. They should be grateful people are willing to pay to try for their goals.

    The course conditions are another matter. Dirt patches in fairways not marked ground under repair and was told there are too many to mark so it is the same as a divot. These patches are yards wide.

  20. Jorge

    Aug 22, 2022 at 10:21 pm

    Yup, complain about those who complain…..

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  23. menstrual cramps

    Aug 21, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    My cooter hurts just thinking about it.

  24. t100c1970

    Aug 21, 2022 at 11:35 am

    Most courses have had no water since the start of the Wuhan flu. I’m sure the competitors are experienced enough to figure out how to BYOW even if Beth Ann is not.

  25. Common sense.

    Aug 20, 2022 at 7:14 pm

    Men would have automatically just brought their own water. Come on. Played on numerous USga qualifiers. Never considered that I’d be fed and watered. Always brought my own.

  26. Tom K.

    Aug 20, 2022 at 4:28 pm

    But they are okay with a man posing as woman playing in the LPGA Q-School

    • t100c1970

      Aug 21, 2022 at 11:46 am

      “Harley” Davidson is not much of a player and will very likely be unsuccessful. It would be more interesting if Lexi’s brothers, Curtis and Nicholas showed up next year. Or maybe even “Tigress” Woods. LPGA just MIGHT restore sanity if PGA Tour players in their 40’s who are having trouble keeping their tour cards started trying to qualify for the LPGA tour.

  27. Bob

    Aug 20, 2022 at 2:03 pm

    Is it so hard to stop at Costco and grab a rack of Arrowhead for $20? Lord help these entitled souls who can’t think and cope.

  28. Brian

    Aug 20, 2022 at 7:52 am

    So they were allowed to use carts and they still couldn’t figure out they could keep a water bottle in the cup holders?

    • MICHAEL

      Aug 20, 2022 at 8:27 am

      Would have been nice to know the no-water stuff beforehand so you can prepare. Nearly all courses here won’t let you bring your own cooler. Sounds like a pretty crappy run event.

  29. Brian

    Aug 20, 2022 at 7:51 am

    WTF is actually offensive?

    • DEH

      Aug 21, 2022 at 11:21 am

      The offensive piece of this is that in the year 2022 women at the LPGA Q-school aren’t supplied water after paying a $2500 entrance fee for their participation in a potentially career changing even though it’s taking place during the summer, IN A DESERT. We all know good and well if it were the PGA Tour there would unquestionably be water provided on each tee. I’m willing to bet that if that were your daughter, granddaughter, or niece, you would be perturbed about this.

  30. Daniel J Allen

    Aug 19, 2022 at 11:31 am

    Do we complain about every single thing in life now??

    • Just Normal

      Aug 19, 2022 at 2:20 pm

      You can just move along and not engage with the content

    • Dave

      Aug 19, 2022 at 5:29 pm

      Apparently you do complain about everything.

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‘Don’t be a d***’ – Rocco Mediate sounds off on ungrateful LIV rebels

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Rocco Mediate, who famously took Tiger Woods to 19 extra holes at the 2008 U.S. Open at Torrey Pines, has come out firing at LIV golfers.

On the Beyond The Clubhouse podcast, Mediate said those who’ve left the PGA TOUR need to show it some respect.

“What’s going on now, it kind of p***** you off the way guys talk about what gave them everything that they have,” he said.

“Think about Greg Norman, everything he has came because he played on the PGA Tour, and what, that wasn’t that good enough? What would you have been without it? There was no other platform, and there still isn’t now – 54 holes in shorts, whoop de doo.”

The 59-year-old took less issue with the fact that they chose to go and take the money than with how they’ve acted towards the PGA TOUR after making the decision.

“Of course it’d be great to make the money, I don’t blame them at all. They’ve been going to Saudi Arabia for a million years for appearance money, that’s not even an issue. But do it the right way, how about a thank you?”

Rocco said that if they happened to want him to play for LIV, he’d probably accept, but would do it the “right way”.

“You know what, if they called me and said they wanted an old guy on the LIV Tour, I’d say ‘yeah that’d be cool, and I want to thank the PGA Tour for giving me everything that I have, but I’m done now’.”

“That’s how you do it, you don’t be a d***, because you’re already being paid way more than you ever earned.

“The one thing we do out here (PGA Tour) is you earn it, they don’t hand it to you – it’s how it always was.”

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Greg Norman outlines very bold plan over 2023 LIV Golf signings

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With the inaugural season of LIV Golf in the books, CEO Greg Norman has shifted his attention to 2023.

While speaking to the press, “The Shark” stated that one current priority is to secure more high-end talent for the upcoming LIV Golf season.

“Basically, we’re looking for maybe seven players, something like that.”

When he was asked: “We’re talking Top 10, Top 20 players?” Norman replied:

“Yes. You said both. So, I said yes.”

Earlier this week, it was speculated in a report from The Guardian that PGA Tour stars Xander Schauffele and Patrick Cantlay could be amongst those moving to LIV for next season.

While Norman didn’t give any names, he made it clear that he thinks players have plenty of incentive to “be liberated” and join LIV.

“Quite honestly, the players on the outside looking in to see what’s happening with LIV today, these guys still talk to each other, right? The ones on LIV feel like they have been liberated. There are players on the PGA Tour that we’re speaking to today that want to be liberated.”

The CEO also said that most of the field from last year will be back once again in 2023.

“The percentage of players that will come back probably – doing quick math – 85 to 90% of the players, I would say.”

Next season, the LIV Golf schedule will expand to fourteen tournaments and the total prize money will expand to $405 million.

Both Greg Norman and LIV president Atul Khosla have spoken in the past week of the importance of getting a U.S. television deal and securing sponsors for the league prior to season two getting underway.

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Ian Poulter makes plea to Elon Musk after Twitter takeover

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All change at Twitter Towers after Elon Musk’s multi-billion dollar takeover.

After several months of negotiation, the richest man in the world finally bought the social media site at the end of October, because “buying Twitter is an accelerant to creating X, the everything app.” Yeah, your guess is as good as mine.

Musk got to work with immediate effect. He and his team sacked some of the existing top-level management personnel, and his latest move is to modify the ‘blue tick’, the award given to users who, according to the old site at least, must be ‘authentic, noble and active”.

The ‘everything’ of Tesla and SpaceX now wants to charge an $8 monthly fee to go blue, a move that hasn’t gone down well, with The New Statesman claiming it would be a “disaster.”

One of those in total disagreement with the view of the respected political publication is Ian Poulter, a frequent poster on Twitter and a player that has used the social media site to argue his case for LIV Golf, as he did a few weeks ago when involved in an ugly spat with Eddie Pepperell.

The 46-year-old has recently been noticed fighting back against anonymous trolls on social media and welcomes any move by Musk to remove these from his feed.

On Wednesday afternoon, the Ryder Cup star posted:

The 46-year-old recently finished 29th on the end-of-season LIV rankings, earning just over $3million in combined individual and team earnings.

Poults’ latest effort for the Majesticks GC team was as first-time captain, a move made so he could play in any singles matches instead of Lee Westwood – a tactical decision tailor-made for a man with a Ryder Cup singles record of six wins and one half from seven matches.

Away from the course, Poulter will be happy with the way Twitter is facing up to the “hateful conduct” on the site. And for that, we should all be grateful.

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