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‘It makes me want to puke’ – Chamblee rips LIV Golf stars in scathing attack

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What a week for golf!

The much-discussed LIV Golf series started yesterday amidst huge analysis of the morals and legitimacy, and yet over 100,000 tuned in to the YouTube channel to see what all the fuss was about.

Whilst that has all been going on, the long-standing RBC Canadian Open has started, with defending champ Rory McIlroy giving a clear opinion on the rebel tour, while the DP World Tour kicked off the second Scandinavian Mixed event, a mixed men’s and women’s tournament, to some eyes a better way of ‘growing the game.’

Naturally, and some might say sadly, the LIV event has grabbed all the headlines.

Participating players have been grilled at the press conferences about their thoughts on their resignation from the PGA Tour and human rights issues surrounding the Saudi-backed series, some with pre-prepared and scripted answers, some not quite so erudite.

And then there were the organizing authorities.

The USGA has decided to allow LIV players that are qualified to still take part in next week’s US Open, whilst the PGA Tour have said ‘no thanks, goodbye’, with McIlroy today saying he welcomed that decision.

Golf Twitter has gone crackers during the week with very few staying away from contributing to the hundreds of topics that surround, let’s face it, quite a minor event.

Then there’s the pros.

Golf Channel analyst, Brandel Chamblee, made his feelings clear in a speech broadcast by Sky Sports News, saying the players that have joined the LIV series make him “want to puke”.

He continued, with genuine passion and vitriol.

“When it comes to the richest sports stars in the world, Phil Mickelson is 11th. He’s ahead of Kobe Bryant, he’s ahead of David Beckham, he’s ahead of Kevin Durant, he’s ahead of Lewis Hamilton.”

“You’re talking about him being ahead of icons in sports that are far more popular worldwide than the game of golf. And yet why is it that golf has four of the highest paid athletes of all time? Why is it that Phil Mickelson is 11th, in terms of the stratosphere he does occupy, as an athlete… that athletes who have made less money than him but play a sport that is widely more popular. Why is that? It’s because of the image of the golfer.

Because of their independent contract nature. Because they show up and, generally speaking, play a game that is self governed and self policing. It is a game of integrity. It’s because corporations want to align themselves with these players. It’s because of the philanthropic aspect of the game of golf.”

“So when I hear these players say that they are ‘growing the game’… it makes me want to puke. They’re destroying the game. And they are destroying their reputations.”

With absolutely no regret, the former professional concludes his feelings with a biting thought.

“This is one of the saddest days in the history of golf. Watching these players come together for money and show to the world…they are showing us that they are the greediest, most self serving, self interesting, wilfully blind players in the world of golf today.”

What a week to be alive.

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  1. Robsterrider

    Jun 30, 2022 at 7:26 pm

    The tour brass sounds just like the NBA execs when the ABA started up and we know how that turned out – a merger of the leagues was successful and created new opportunities for players, owners and fans. Jay and Keith need to be fired and then get new execs who want to work cooperatively. I can envision many different scenarios that would get lots of new, younger blood involved in the golf world. Greg has it right and he has the backing to persevere. I like the format, and mixed in with other formats would move the needle for golf.. and I’m in the over 60 demographic!!

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  3. Mo

    Jun 18, 2022 at 3:19 pm

    So we’ve been buying Saudi oils for decades and we stil buy their oil. Big Joe’s going there to ask them to pump more oil so that we don’t have to pay for $6-$7/gallon gas with pretty much the same regime except for a new head honcho at the helm. We all pump saudi gas everyday and if it wern’t for Saudi gas then this country would be in deep do do. So we can give money to the Saudis but the LIV players can’t receive Saudi money? Ok that makes sense. The media portrays the Chinese as an existential threat to the US and enemy #1 and yet the trade between the two countries are so intertwined that we both need each other to sustain both economies. China ia also #1 holder of US debt. Let’s leave politics out of sports and let the politicians fuss over it. I personally hold no grudge towards the guys that went to LIV.

    • Rand

      Jun 27, 2022 at 12:26 pm

      Griner played BBall in Russia and no one says a thing about that. There’s other athletes who play sports in countries and for countries doing awful things to their citizens and political opponents, but nothing is ever said.

  4. Bob G

    Jun 15, 2022 at 5:54 pm

    Makes him want to puke because he’s just jealous and wishes he could join. Chamblee was just an average pro who would have been perfect for LIV. Speaking of being pro, isn’t making money playing golf why these guys turn pro? Money comes from all evil sources, that’s why the love of money is the root of all evil.

    • Kay

      Jun 16, 2022 at 5:13 pm

      I say let him puke, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to come out of his mouth

    • Kay

      Jun 16, 2022 at 8:04 pm

      Let him puke, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to come out of his mouth

  5. GMatt

    Jun 15, 2022 at 8:26 am

    I want to see Brandeis change of tune when NBC takes some LIV money to prop up the golf channel which has been bleeding cash for a lot of years……

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  8. T-Bone

    Jun 14, 2022 at 6:04 pm

    I have two words for critics of those who joined LIV Golf…”Fuck u”. Every player is one injury away from never making another penny playing golf. STFU!

  9. James

    Jun 14, 2022 at 11:19 am

    For sake of argument, let’s assume every single bad thing ever said about the Saudis is true. Question, it’s not ok to TAKE $100’s of millions of dollars from the Saudis to play golf, but it’s perfectly ok to GIVE BILLIONS to the Saudis for oil?

    How is it that our outrage is so selective here?

    The gas for my damn golf trip this year will cost more than my share of the trip its self!!

  10. Paincake

    Jun 14, 2022 at 8:07 am

    Every single person whining about this league just because it’s backed by the Saudis is a bloody hypocrite. Their lives are literally FULL of crap made by and funded by the Chinese Communists who make the Saudis look like Mother Teresa.

    And yes, that even means the people that lost family on 9/11 that signed that letter. Was a connection between the Saudi family and the hijackers ever established? Maybe I missed that headline… /shrug

  11. Tommy wills

    Jun 13, 2022 at 3:07 pm

    Brandel sucks. People suck. Haters suck. Golf is border line. Complain when your live suck. And yea your life sucks if your reading this

  12. Jubby

    Jun 12, 2022 at 9:20 am

    Look at the background of the players going to LIV –

    DJ – Suspended for drug use
    Phil -degenerate gambler
    Reed-Cheater and a thief(kicked of golf team for stealing $400 cash and scotty putter from teammate)
    Bryson – big douche bag
    Matthew Wolffe- headcase with a horrible attitude
    Fowler – game is slumping for years now
    Kevin Na- fights with people on twitter

    • Roy

      Jun 17, 2022 at 2:05 pm

      and 6 months they were all proud members of the PGA Tour – based on your assessment the tour needs to clean itself up if these are the quality of their stars

  13. Big Guy

    Jun 11, 2022 at 11:38 pm

    Chamblee suffers from a bad case of over extension in his game and his shots are all over the place. Best he swings within himself so he doesn’t look like a complete idiot out there.

  14. cookie

    Jun 11, 2022 at 6:17 pm

    i mean – there’s no logical argument that the competition is bad for the game. if you think that, you just don’t understand how things work. especially it being in a format that is new, unique and frankly more interesting. PGA is threatened they may not be able to do whatever they want and do it their old-fashioned way.

    Saudi Arabia is problematic – I understand people concerned over that, totally fair, although their comments would hold more weight if they acknowledged the US is going downhill fast on human rights issues too

  15. Bob G

    Jun 11, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    Will GolfWRX provide a WITB for the winners of LIV Golf events?

    • Tyson

      Jun 11, 2022 at 5:49 pm

      PGA had given over a billion in Charities as of 2022. The only charitable
      Recipients are the greedy has been

    • Tyson

      Jun 11, 2022 at 5:51 pm

      Golfwex doesn’t provide exhibition winner

      • Bob G

        Jun 11, 2022 at 7:34 pm

        Tyson needs to work on spelling and grammar. Lol!

        • Rich

          Jun 12, 2022 at 4:06 pm

          Drama queens who use Lol are in no position to lecture others on spelling and grammar.

          No WITBs for the Hasbeen Bonesaw Exhibitions, please.

          • Bob G

            Jun 13, 2022 at 11:10 am

            FU Richie Rich.

          • Roy

            Jun 17, 2022 at 2:08 pm

            FYI – LOL is a pretty accepted chat room comment. Far more accepted than hypocrites like yourself…..

            • Bob G

              Jun 21, 2022 at 11:32 pm

              LOL!

              • Dogtalk

                Jul 31, 2022 at 2:19 am

                Down right traitors. And on top of everything, Modern day Bernadette Arnold (Trump) is involved with the tour shows you how comfortable they are with the biggest con artist, racist, liar, and ignorant American in our history. Also a lot of hypocrisy here. I would almost bet that the most of the folks here making comments probably voted for Trump in the US election. Why be surprise! Or do you continue to be mislead with the Flim Flam Man

  16. Tim

    Jun 11, 2022 at 10:44 am

    The PGA makes $1.5billion a year. 25 tournaments at 10 million a piece equals $250 million maybe $200 million to charity. So where does the othe $1 billion dollars go? The event managers make a lot more than the performers. Elvia and The Colonel!!! I hope LIV takes off like a rocket. I like Chamblee but a lot of times he’s plain wrong, like in this case!!!

    • Tyson

      Jun 11, 2022 at 5:46 pm

      PGA had given over a billion in Charities as of 2022. The only charitable
      Recipients are the greedy has been

      • Evander Hollyfield

        Jun 15, 2022 at 10:33 am

        If you realy believe that non for profit charities do not involve greed or coruption you’re an uninformed fool!

  17. dttruman

    Jun 11, 2022 at 6:31 am

    Wasn’t there a major happening back in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s where there was squabble that turned into something major. The players thought they had the freedom to choose to play in any tournament they wanted. Apparently the PGA had other ideas, and they tried to force the better players (or more famous ones) to play in certain tournaments to oblige the sponsors. A compromised was reached and players had to play in certain tournaments within a certain time frame (or in a number of years). Why can’t there be some kind of compromise here?

  18. Tom Elliott

    Jun 10, 2022 at 8:44 pm

    Everybody forgets the name Curt Flood. He’s the guy that got started all the free agency in sports. These guys are just doing what they want to do. They are not turning their backs on the PGA Tour, the tour is turning its back to them. All someone needs to do is take them to court for the right to play wherever they want.That’s what the tour is afraid of, they know they will lose in court. These guys r independent contractors and can play where they choose to! Love this drama finally gets to golf!!!

    • Scott F

      Jun 10, 2022 at 11:22 pm

      PGA Tour has a solid case good luck in court!

    • Yourewrong

      Jun 11, 2022 at 8:41 pm

      Sorry man, as independent contractors they signed a contract that clearly states what other events and Tours they are allowed to play/apply for exemptions to play in in order for them to obtain the privilege of being contracted by the Tour so they can play on it.

      They’ll get dunked in court, they know this, which is why the majority have resigned their membership.

      If I want to go be a contractor for a certain company and they say we will employ you but you can’t do the same work for our direct competitors while contracted to us, and I agree, it is pretty clear what happens if I don’t follow that. These Tour pros are no different.

      The Tour isn’t doing anything wrong. They didn’t try to force people to stay, they said go ahead you can’t play here if you do though, remember you agreed to that. Seems pretty fair and a decent example of a free market.

      No one would have any real issue with this if LIV Golf had a different financial backer without such horrific human rights abuses. I’d be all for the actual golfers making more of the money they are the primary drivers of earning, I just don’t support them blatantly letting Saudi sportswash their reputation as they attempt to make everyone forget they chop up foreign reporters who report only the truth about their abuses with bonesaws.

      If LIV Golf was funded differently it would still be within the Tour’s rights to say them or us, as it is in the contracts as independent contractors.

      • roy

        Jun 17, 2022 at 2:16 pm

        Thats the problem – there is a fine legal line between employees and IC’s and in a lot of ways the Tour has crossed that. They want to control them like employees, but call them IC’s for $$$$ reasons

  19. geohogan

    Jun 10, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    If first Liv event is any indication, it wont last this season.
    Sooo boring.
    Teaming up a ‘has been pga player’ with a no name golfer who can barely
    qualify for the Korn Ferry tour is a recipe for ‘dead on arrival’
    Pun intended.

  20. Burke

    Jun 10, 2022 at 5:57 pm

    A lot of accurate comments on here about the US carrying on relationships with many morally questionable countries. That’s obviously not what the push back from the PGA tour is about.

    Let’s just say the money didn’t come from the Saudis but instead an extremely honourable source from Silicon Valley or a church group or whatever just good honest people… do you really think the PGA would then just roll over and let their top talent come and go without a fight? Absolutely not!! They would find a different narrative but the fight would be the same. They love their current monopoly

  21. Willy mays Hays

    Jun 10, 2022 at 4:11 pm

    Reminds me of major league 2.
    The FREE agent big hitter Jack Parkman made all the ladies drool. But when he got traded it he made them want to throw up. Chamblee does not get paid 2 be boring. He is the golf Stephan a smith.

  22. Joejoe

    Jun 10, 2022 at 4:09 pm

    It’s not greedy to take a better offer.
    It’s common sense and every single person does it when they apply for a job.

    • Tyson lamb

      Jun 10, 2022 at 6:31 pm

      They have no loyalty. Where would these guys be without the PGA. Brandle is correct these guys sold their soul for greed

      • Kuch is the MAN

        Jun 13, 2022 at 1:30 pm

        Pretty rich comment coming from a guy whose putters go for what approaches 5 figures. And also makes putter head covers and ball markers for what other name brands sale their putters for. Maybe you shouldn’t be the one talking about selling your soul for greed.

    • Rich

      Jun 10, 2022 at 6:35 pm

      Hitler called with a $1 Billion offer to sweep the floor 4 days a month at the Berghof.

  23. Dan Poehler

    Jun 10, 2022 at 2:31 pm

    Everyone’s criticism of Brandel is missing the point. Stop imagining and understand his words and you’ll understand the essence of what he’s saying. And he is right. A golfer does not need $-millions to grow the game. Bob Jones grew the game more than anyone. His reward: never ending fame and he never accepted a dime for it.

    • Bob Williamson

      Jun 13, 2022 at 3:05 pm

      What business doesn’t operate for their bottom line? Grow a pair you ignorance is lame another Daryl
      .

  24. Bladehunter

    Jun 10, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    Brandel is correct. As usual.

    • BladeHunters132yard7ironwithablade

      Jun 10, 2022 at 2:39 pm

      Brandel is mad. As usual.

  25. Joey5picks

    Jun 10, 2022 at 1:36 pm

    Point of correction:

    “The USPGA has decided to allow LIV players that are qualified to still take part in next week’s US Open”

    No, the PGA (or maybe you meant PGA Tour?) doesn’t run the US Open. It’s the USGA that said players who are qualified will be allowed to play.

  26. gnormanisGARBAGE

    Jun 10, 2022 at 12:38 pm

    Integrity, look it up for all you licking up to the Bonesaw tour.

  27. Stu

    Jun 10, 2022 at 11:51 am

    Love the way both Poulter and Westwood refused to answer reporters questions if they would go play in an event Putin sponsored if he offered them enough money?…

    • Rich

      Jun 10, 2022 at 11:54 am

      Cheap wh*res do that look in the mirror once in a while.

    • Chuck

      Jun 12, 2022 at 1:30 pm

      Why is it a good thing that they refused to answer? If they have an answer, make their case.

      One of many reasons for me to resent LIV Golf right now is stuff like that.

      Kicking the press-credentialed Alan Shipbuck out, while a smirking Greg Norman watched. Attracting some of the most non-credible and press-uncooperative players in the world; Reed, DeChambeau, Johnson.

      There’s really strong whiff of “We’re fighting the fake media” with this enterprise and it is going to get exponentially worse when LIV Golf takes its show to Trump National venues.

      • Kuch is the MAN

        Jun 13, 2022 at 1:38 pm

        The pga and r&a (lowercase letters, intended) WRONGFULLY took tournaments away from incredible venues because of said venue’s owner. Sorry crybaby liberals, PRESIDENT TRUMP owns some of the most incredible golf courses on this earth, headlined by Trump Turnberry.

        • Chuck

          Jun 15, 2022 at 1:54 pm

          Yep, that’s exactly where this fight is heading.

          “Everything Trump touches, dies.”

          Golf is now divided. The USGA, the PGATour, the R&A; none of them will ever again associate with anything “Trump.” And I’ll be cheering their every move.

      • Grim Golfer

        Jun 13, 2022 at 3:56 pm

        What is wrong with playing at Trump’s venues? Also, what is wrong with ignoring the press when so many of them now make their names off of conflict and smearing those they cover? Not all, but I don’t blame anyone who refuses to speak with reporters. That is for any sport.

        • Sniper

          Jun 13, 2022 at 9:41 pm

          One day there will be open season on reporters

          • Chuck

            Jun 15, 2022 at 1:56 pm

            This charming comment has been reported.

            You’re welcome.

  28. Rich

    Jun 10, 2022 at 11:51 am

    Props to the first man who rightfully calls it the Bonesaw Tour on a live broadcast.

    Bonesaw Tour

  29. Chris

    Jun 10, 2022 at 11:24 am

    Brandel works for Golf Channel, a subsidiary of NBC. Why doesn’t he speak out about “sportswashing” of China’s human rights abuses? Maybe it’s because the people who give him a paycheck are profiting off of China. How much wall-to-wall coverage of China’s human rights issues did NBC provide during their multi-billion investment in Olympics coverage? https://www.inquirer.com/business/nbc-olympics-china-human-rights-tibet-hong-kong-20220204.html. Where were Chamblee’s attacks on the Olympians who would dare to show up in China and add legitimacy to that regime? Or, let’s talk about the NBA’s “sportswashing” of China. I’m waiting for Brandel to publicly attack LeBron for his sucking up to China. Where was Brandel’s defense of Daryl Morey who dared to speak out against China? When is Brnadel going to do a piece on the jailed and disappeared journalists in China? https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/journalists-and-activists-jailed-or-missing-for-reporting-on-covid-in-china-1.4768705
    Simple fact: our Infotainment Corporations that run sports coverage and news and entertainment all are reliant on China, but have no similar financial arrangement with Saudi. If Chamblee’s paycheck was coming from Saudi money instead of China money, his coverage would be a little different. Hypocrites, all of them.

  30. Michael

    Jun 10, 2022 at 11:15 am

    Using whataboutism to excuse doing business with criminals and murderers is pretty pathetic, but after what I have seen in the comments on WRX the last few years, it’s not surprising

    • Kate Hikes

      Jun 10, 2022 at 11:17 am

      Who’s you’re so morally superior I should bow down and accept everything you say.

      • Michael

        Jun 10, 2022 at 11:22 am

        You certainly should given your response and what has been said on the page. There is no doubt I am morally superior to those of you doing exactly what I commented on.

        You are acting exactly like people do when they are held accountable for their behavior and comments. It reflects the true nature, character and integrity of those making such comments.

      • Dave

        Jun 10, 2022 at 3:10 pm

        Kate—you are right. Wonder when last time Brandel bought something “made in China”—like maybe yesterday. There is mo difference between China and Saudis Arabi. As well, such hypocrisy never seemed to get in NBAs way with games in China—Glad Brandel and the others are not working for money—at least they would have you tbink—give me a break.

        • Siuya

          Jun 10, 2022 at 4:02 pm

          I hope you didn’t type that on your chinese manufactured iphone.

          This is why politics and sports should be separated- every country has blood on its hands. There is no country that has been bombed more countries than the USA. You can sell that as ‘bringing democracy’ or ‘protect the peace loving nations’ to the dumb brainwashed, sorry, woke people, but it is greed. They happily provide the weapons for Saudia Arabia to bomb Yemen. Good partnership! Let them play there or if you ban it, ban golf in USA as well for starters.

          Better still, ignore it and enjoy the golf. I like DJs game so if it is on tv, i will watch it

          • Not bob

            Jun 10, 2022 at 6:46 pm

            These guys can’t compete on the PGA so they decided to take allowance from big daddy’s Saudi. Now they will be told when and where to play.

            • Kuch is the MAN

              Jun 13, 2022 at 1:34 pm

              Yeah, Dustin Johnson can’t compete…STFU. You win stupidest comment of the day. congrats.

        • Charles Swaab

          Jun 10, 2022 at 10:34 pm

          The Golf Channel is owned by NBC. NBC is owned by Comcast. Comcast owns Universal. Comcast and Universal have many lucrative deals in China. NBC broadcasts NBA games. The NBA is in bed with China. Quite a lot of hypocrisy involved here..

          • Ken

            Jun 15, 2022 at 8:40 am

            China has more NBA fans than the USA. The Saudi citizens could care less about golf.

    • Greg

      Jun 10, 2022 at 12:35 pm

      “Why is Saudi Arabia important to the US?
      The United States is Saudi Arabia’s second largest trading partner, and Saudi Arabia is one of the United States’ largest trading partners in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia is the third leading source of imported oil for the United States, providing about half a million barrels per day of oil to the U.S. market.”

      Nuff said!

    • KR.I-P

      Jun 10, 2022 at 12:47 pm

      The PGA has been taking Saudi money for years, they are being hypocritical!

      • PJ

        Jun 10, 2022 at 1:35 pm

        The PGA takes that Chinese CCP money and none of the “outraged” reporters or people that comment on here will or have ever said a word about that. Brandel is mad they didn’t offer him any money as he rides the Golf Channel ship to the bottom of the ocean.

        • Thomas Molo

          Jun 12, 2022 at 10:58 am

          Yes it is hilarious. I am no fan of the Saudis but the USA and UK have had a close relationship with them for 60 years. The Chinese communists have more human rights abuses but golf has loads of gear and clothes made in China. Any of it with slave or prison labor? How much do they pay people making PGA brand clothing? 4 cents a shirt?

          I view LIV as a tour in between the PGA and Senior/Champions Tour. A tour for guys between 35 to 50 to sock away some extra money for retirement. The golfers here getting all upset. It opens up more slots for guys to make a living playing golf around the world. The PGA should have spread a bit more money on the feeder tours. Loads of guys folding shirts in some clubhouse like Poulter did, may have a chance to play and make a living.

          What major did Monahan win? Where is the most current financial or tax returns for the PGA? Last one was 2017 where Jay was making $3.9 million. Guys in the bag room are making minimum wage. Jay reminds me of Judge Smails. “Shine those shoes with your finest chamois.” Big phony like Brandel and Shipnuk.

  31. DemocracyEnjoyer

    Jun 10, 2022 at 11:03 am

    This is something that you’re actually able to criticize and that is why Brandel is saying it(and everyone else for that matter) – simply to status signal. Homosexuality is uniquely a “western thing” even though if voted on by the entire country would be outlawed. People that want to be the moral arbiter and promote homosexuality because it’s the high status take disseminated by the highjacked dominance apex.

    Put simply: They’re using the “moral” argument as a proxy to channel frustration from the players that decided to leave.

  32. CJK

    Jun 10, 2022 at 10:59 am

    Brandel is the new Johnny Miller! A wasted talent given a platform, who if his check wasn’t coming from NBC would be a Division 2 golf coach. Brandel won one tournament on I think a weak field, major week event ! But yet he extols the virtue of the golfing world.

  33. Edward Bardoe

    Jun 10, 2022 at 10:56 am

    Brandel is just pro death penalty, the Saudis commuted the death penalties for the 5 agents who killed Khashoggi to 20 years. Didn’t know that? not helpful to the narrative. The pros who took the money have set themselves up for life, and will never need to play anywhere else again. Look up “right to work”, Nascar, USAC and many other organizations have already lost this lawsuit, if the players even care after the checks clear.

    • Michael

      Jun 10, 2022 at 11:13 am

      Are you freaking kidding me?

      Commuted the death penalty for hitmen that the guy who commuted the penalty hired in the first place? You really want to use that as a defense?

      Man is that one of the most pathetic excuses.

      And in case you didn’t notice it no one is stopping them from working. They can play golf anywhere the want if they follow the rules of the sponsoring organization.

      You’re not a labor lawyer so I would stay away from the “right to work” stuff. It is so inapplicable as toby laughable that you played that card.

    • Michael

      Jun 10, 2022 at 11:18 am

      When the guy who hired the hitmen commutes their death penalty sentence that shows compassion, kindness and understanding?

      Wow. Interesting spin on morality.

  34. Steve Maultsby

    Jun 10, 2022 at 10:46 am

    Traitors. Liv players that show for US Open should be greeted by fans turning their backs on them before every shot.

  35. Odnamra

    Jun 10, 2022 at 10:38 am

    The High Horses have left the barn….and you cant put it back in.

    I’ll listen to Brandel the moment he stops putting Saudi Oil or Charges his vehicle without their fuel of any kind …

    We’re all hypocrites.

  36. Todd christensen

    Jun 10, 2022 at 10:26 am

    These guys are in the wrong /. History will show it, the way all you guys talk on here you would have taken money to play golf with hitler.

    • Ping Blueprints

      Jun 10, 2022 at 3:52 pm

      Did Hitler ever drop a nuke on a Country? Get a brain r tard.

  37. Tom Kay

    Jun 10, 2022 at 10:15 am

    Go away Brandel, far away.

  38. Jon

    Jun 10, 2022 at 9:06 am

    Hey Brandel, since you claim to be a student of the game here is a little history lesson for you: https://vault.si.com/vault/1968/09/02/the-revolt-of-the-touring-pros

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  40. Bobby jones

    Jun 10, 2022 at 7:37 am

    JT = dad pga of America
    Rory= owns % of NBC golf
    Seems like it’s hard 2 be objective for these chatty kattys.
    How much $ did Phil make the pga tour ?

    • Thomas Molo

      Jun 12, 2022 at 11:04 am

      JT is really sounding weasely. Daddy was a golf pro and I had the best access to becoming a golfer. Phil was one of the biggest draws for the past 30 years. Signing autographs for kids for hours after every round. He was one of the best ambassadors for the game. His gambling stuff he should have nipped in the bud years ago but besides that a fan favorite. Geez – even NY golf fans love the guy.

  41. kurt

    Jun 10, 2022 at 7:32 am

    STFU brande the biggest blowhard in our sport.

    • Phil mickelson

      Jun 10, 2022 at 7:00 pm

      Bet you brandlel can beat you with 10 stokes on each side

      • Eff Hugh

        Jun 10, 2022 at 8:59 pm

        Lick my chode you sack sniffer. How’s Brandels jock strap taste?

  42. Muff Diver

    Jun 10, 2022 at 6:46 am

    Chamblee is so upset because he wishes he was in on the take and is extremely bitter about it.

  43. Ned

    Jun 10, 2022 at 6:24 am

    Chamblee needs to shut up here’s a guy that won one tournament in his life and now talks like his the all seeing all knowing about golf. This statement “Watching these players come together for money and show to the world…they are showing us that they are the greediest, most self serving, self interesting, wilfully blind players in the world of golf today.” alone speaks volumes as to his tunnel vision. He should look in the mirror to see the person he is describing. He knows if he spoke positive about LIV he would probably lose his job.

    • Tom Przybylowicz

      Jun 10, 2022 at 7:53 pm

      Exactly. Why does anyone think Chamblee is significant at all? You talk about wanting to puke? Listen to his sniffling drivel during the TPC and his bitching about the 17th hole during less than stellar playing conditions and you can appreciate the wanting to puke comment. Brandel, you no play the game, you no make the comments.

  44. Hooters

    Jun 10, 2022 at 6:13 am

    Shut up Brandi.

    • Twin peaks

      Jun 10, 2022 at 6:53 pm

      Do you have $200 million to shut him up

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‘I don’t think that makes any sense’ – Patrick Cantlay calls out golf course architects

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In the past seven years, the BMW Championship has been played at seven different golf courses.

This year’s BMW Championship will be hosted by Wilmington Country Club in Delaware, which is a course that’s never been utilized in a professional event prior to this week.

Despite the novelty of the course, defending champion Patrick Cantlay sees plenty of similarities between Wilmington Country and the host of last year’s event, Caves Valley.

“I don’t think there’s too much strategy to this golf course. I think it’s pretty right in front of you and similar to last year,” Cantlay said ahead of his title defense. “The venues between last year and this year are actually really similar, I think, in style of golf.”

The course is relatively long, measuring in at 7,534 yards as a Par 71. Cantlay was critical of the way golf architects have used adding length as the way to attempt to make courses more difficult.

“I think it’s really long. I think it’s also strange to me that we play so many golf courses that all they do is add length to the golf courses. It’s so surprising to me that the golf courses that none of the guys who hit it far, they don’t go to Hilton Head, they don’t go to Colonial, they don’t go to the short, small, dogleggy tree-lined golf courses,” Cantlay explained.

“The way we combat the distance, the way these architects seem to think they want to combat distance is by taking all the trees out and playing it 7,600 yards and put the tees way back and all the par-5s are at 600 yards. I don’t think that makes any sense.

“I’m surprised every time I come to a golf course where they say it’s recently been redone and then there’s no real shaping of golf shots. It’s just how far can you hit it and grab your driver on every hole and hit it as high and hit it as far as you possibly can. If you can hit it 315 yards, you’ve taken out all the bunkers, and you’re maybe in the rough, but it’s way better in the rough with a 9- or 8-iron than it is maybe in the fairway with a 5-iron if you were to lay up to the fat part of the fairway before the bunkers.”

“I’m so surprised that they haven’t figured it out, and it just seems like we’re getting more and more of the same bomb-it-as-far-as-you-can golf courses week after week.”

Last year’s BMW Championship played extremely easy, with Cantlay winning at -27 in a playoff with Bryson DeChambeau. Considering his opinion that Wilmington will play similarly to Caves Valley, we are likely in store for another shootout this week.

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2022 BMW Championship Betting Tips: Back Rory for glory in Delaware

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The PGA TOUR has reached the penultimate event of the 2022 season as we head to Wilmington, Delaware to play the BMW Championship.

The top 70 players left standing in the race for the FedEx Cup will tee it up this week looking to punch their ticket to East Lake.

This is the first time the BMW Championship will be played at Wilmington Country Club and the event has had a different host in each of the past six years.

Wilmington Country Club is a par 71 measuring 7,534 yards and features Bentgrass greens. The course was designed by Robert Trent Jones and renovated by Keith Foster in 2008.

The BMW Championship will be a no-cut event with the top 30 players in the FedEx Cup standings moving on to next week.

BMW Championship Outright Bets

Rory McIlroy (+1000)

I am all in on Rory McIlroy this week. It’s rare for me to ignore most of the board and put all of my chips on the favorite, but I believe the BMW Championship is one of the few events on TOUR where it’s the most logical strategy.

The FedEx Cup playoffs typically yield elite winners, and I don’t anticipate that this week will be any different. Specifically, the last three winners of the BMW Championship have been Patrick Cantlay who defeated Bryson DeChambeau in a playoff, Jon Rahm who defeated Dustin Johnson in a playoff, and Justin Thomas. All five of the players who’ve either won or had a chance to win in the last three editions of the event have been big name stars. There are plenty of weeks during the course of the season to chase value, but this isn’t one of those weeks.

Rory McIlroy missed the cut at last week’s FedEx Cup St. Jude Championship. For many players on TOUR, that could be a concern. Not for Rory. Three of McIroy’s past eight victories on TOUR have come after a missed cut in his previous start. He won the 2018 Arnold Palmer Invitation after missing the cut at the Valspar Championship, the 2019 Canadian Open after missing the cut at the Memorial Tournament, and the 2021 Wells Fargo after missing the cut at The Masters. In addition to his wins after missed cuts, the 21-time TOUR winner has three top-six finishes after a missed cut as well. It may not seem like that many, but for a player who’s only missed ten cuts since the start of the 2018 season it’s significant sample size.

While this is a new course on TOUR, the first glance course fit for McIlroy at Wilmington Country Club seems ideal. Rory has been excellent on Robert Trent Jones designs and typically plays well on tree-lined classical layouts. He’s also been one of the best putters on Bentgrass this season and ranks 3rd in the field in his past 24 rounds putting on the surface.

In addition to the incredible putting of late, McIlroy also ranks 5th in the field in his past 24 rounds in Strokes Gained: Approach. He’s gained strokes on the field in nine consecutive events and that should prove to be a major advantage this week with the greens at Wilmington Country Club being absolutely massive.

With six of the past seven BMW Championships having a winning score of -20 or better, I believe this week will be another low scoring affair. The 33-year-old ranks first in the field in Birdie or Better and should be able to keep up with the scoring pace if the event turns into a shootout.

It’s been a month since Rory’s heartbreak at St. Andrews, and I believe this is the week he bounces back and adds to his all-time lead in FedEx Cup career earnings.

 

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Controversial ESPN host says he’s ‘disgusted’ by Tiger Woods in unpopular rant

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On Tuesday, a closed meeting amongst several of the golf hierarchy, all assembled for a PGA Tour player meeting including none other than Tiger Woods.

ESPN’s divisive host Stephen A. Smith isn’t happy about it, though.

On Tuesday’s edition of First Take, the outspoken presenter made it clear that, in his opinion, it is disgusting that Tiger Woods is putting his considerable might behind the PGA Tour in the ‘battle’ against LIV.

Smith ranted:

“I’m disgusted by it. Let me explain why. The United States government, their number two trade partner, from what I’ve read, is Saudi Arabia. a host of U.S. corporations, and I apologize, I just googled it, I just looked it up just now. If I’m wrong about anybody, please forgive me, General Electric, AT&T, Bank of America, Halliburton Company, Pfizer International. A whole bunch of people. If I’m wrong, I apologize, it was online. Talk about these major corporations doing business. I don’t know. I just said it was online, so I don’t know. But I’m pretty sure it’s safe to say U.S. corporations doing big business with Saudi Arabia and suddenly individuals are looking to get paid and everybody is in an uproar?”

Hinting at anti-competition regulations, the presenter continued:

“I thought this was America. I thought we were a capitalistic society. I thought competition breeds our greatness. That’s what I thought. Tiger Woods is sitting there acting like the PGA should be the only game in town. When do we say that? Now granted, if you’re the only game in town, you’re the only game in town. We see it in USFL and we see Arena Football but we know it’s the NFL and then everybody else. You can have the G League and college basketball, but we know it’s the NBA and everybody else.

“You got Major League Baseball, we understand that you can have those things, but the chances of you usurping them and eclipsing them are slim to none. They are established brands in the United States of America that garner the support of millions and as a result that’s what we gonna flow with. I’m good with that. That’s America. You establish your level of dominance to the point that it don’t matter what some competition is going to do, cool. This is different.”

Smith then puts the 15-time major winner in the spotlight:

“You got Tiger Woods supporting, feeling like players betrayed the PGA. What do you owe the PGA? Show the PGA, you work, you produce, you go out there and you earn your money,” he said. “They don’t pay everybody. Winners get paid. Losers don’t necessarily get paid. I don’t know all the particulars … and I’m not pretending to. I’m addressing principle, meaning American principle.”

“Now I’m a Black man first forever and always and very, very proud of it,” continued Smith. “But I am a proud American citizen and I do believe in the American system when it talks about capitalism, when it talks about meritocracy and handling your business and handling your own and may the best man and woman win. So if you better than LIV, be better!”

Referring to the feelings presented by the families of the victims of the 9/11 tragedy, Smith said:

“…the intensity you exercise toward golfers who want to compete under the LIV umbrella, we do the same thing to the government and the corporations. If you ain’t doing it for them, don’t do it to the individual players.”

Reaction to the speech, transcribed on mediaite.com has been, naturally, very mixed.

Support for the controversial presenter was limited with many taking an opposite stance.

Indeed, the general feeling was summed up by one respondent on the mediaite.com site:

“There is no explanation that will rationalize away the Saudi’s human rights violations. I don’t measure good and bad based on what American corporations do. They would sell their mother to the taliban if it meant bigger profits. I am happy that Tiger Woods is calling out the LIV golfers and trying to get more backing for the PGA. The LIV golfers have dug their grave and they can lie in it now. The Saudi’s believe in women as 2nd class citizens, and LGBTQ are even lower. They believe in corporal punishment which is vile. I DO have a problem with the idiot Smith fella criticizing anyone for finding fault with Saudi Arabia. I am sick of money talking, corporations deciding what is ethical and NOT prosecuting law breakers because they are politicians or rich.”

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