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The Wedge Guy: Size does matter (with your grips)

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As most of you know, I have been in the golf equipment business for over 40 years now, and I’ve always believed and observed that one of the most overlooked pieces of our equipment is the grip, or grips, I should say. The most basic building block of a sound and repeating golf swing is the hold you make on the golf club, and I have observed that the vast majority of high-handicap players — and even many mid-handicap golfers — just do not have a sound and fundamental understanding of just how important this is to allow the golf swing to function.

I have addressed this topic before, so I’ll just advise that anyone can learn how to hold the club properly, as it takes no athletic skill at all. You can learn it at home while sitting in your chair watching TV. You can take a few minutes in your office every time you get on the phone. There are plenty of good YouTube videos on the subject, so there is just no good reason why anyone and everyone cannot learn how to hold the golf club properly.

But what I observe in almost all golfers not playing to a single-digit handicap is that they hold the club much to tightly and much too far into the palms of their hands, rather than in their fingers.

But today’s post is about the actual grips you put on your golf clubs, and how they can affect your shotmaking performance.

I have been continually amazed and surprised at the increasing percentage of Edison Forged wedges that are ordered with mid-size or even jumbo grips. By our most recent analysis, that figure is well over a third of all our orders. When I started my first company, Reid Lockhart, in the mid-1990s, these kinds of grips were not even offered, and it was a rare request to build up a grip for a customer with one or more layers of tape. Those requests typically came from very accomplished players who knew just what they wanted.

As I continued to study golfers and their equipment through my subsequent companies and witnessed a gradual increase in those requests, the grip companies began to offer their most popular grips in mid-size and jumbo size . . . and then the trend to “reduced taper” grips, wherein the right-hand portion is built up to replicate 3-4 wraps of tape under the lower hand.

But seeing how many requests we get at Edison Golf for oversized grips inspired me to reach out to an industry friend who has been in the glove business for well over 30 years to ask:

“Are golfers’ hands getting ever larger? Is that what is behind this rapid trend to bigger grips?”

His answer was a very clear: “NO – our glove size percentages have not changed measurably in over 30 years.”
So, if golfers’ hands are not getting larger, why the tremendous interest in these larger grips? The answer is very simple, as I indicated to start today’s post. If you hold the club incorrectly . . . with the “handle” more in the palms of your hands than in your fingers . . . then a properly sized grip is going to feel very small.

But why would you accommodate a poor hold on the club, instead of learning how to hold the club properly?

It has always been accepted that a larger grip reduces the activity of the hands through impact – which is why the trend to large putter grips has been so universally accepted. We want to limit our hand action in putting. I’ll even admit that the reduced taper grips can be a good idea on your wedges, because again, you would like to limit your lower hand action.

But I believe an oversized grip on your “swing clubs” is a bad idea unless you have very large hands and/or long fingers. The problem is that a big grip will feel “good” to you if you hold the club too much in your palms. But that kind of hold on the club makes it almost impossible to release the club properly through impact for optimum clubhead speed and consistency.

If any of your clubs are more than a couple of years old, chances are that the grips are worn to a point that you are having to grip the club too tightly to maintain control. As you get into this 2022 golf season, I strongly urge you to pay close attention to the condition and size of your grips and change them out if needed.

I’d also advise any of you who are playing oversized grips of some kind to try a smaller grip and move your “hold” on the club more into your fingers and out of your palms. You might just find that nice “baby draw” has been there all along.

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Terry Koehler is a fourth generation Texan and a graduate of Texas A&M University. Over his 40-year career in the golf industry, he has created over 100 putter designs, sets of irons and drivers, and in 2014, he put together the team that reintroduced the Ben Hogan brand to the golf equipment industry. Since the early 2000s, Terry has been a prolific writer, sharing his knowledge as “The Wedge Guy”.   But his most compelling work is in the wedge category. Since he first patented his “Koehler Sole” in the early 1990s, he has been challenging “conventional wisdom” reflected in ‘tour design’ wedges. The performance of his wedge designs have stimulated other companies to move slightly more mass toward the top of the blade in their wedges, but none approach the dramatic design of his Edison Forged wedges, which have been robotically proven to significantly raise the bar for wedge performance. Terry serves as Chairman and Director of Innovation for Edison Golf – check it out at www.EdisonWedges.com.

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  1. Greg

    Feb 28, 2022 at 3:01 am

    Not great analysis Terry. Perhaps the real reason for oversized grips now is people have tried them and like them. In the past, they were not commonly marketed. Now anyone can whip down to the superstore and try a bunch of different grips and choose what they like.

  2. geohogan

    Feb 27, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    “It has always been accepted that a larger grip reduces the activity of the hands through impact”.

    Does a large grip on a baseball bat reduce activity of the hands.. NOT.

    Many if not most oversize grips are more than 50 grams…causing reduction in SW. often to mid to high “C” SW. Lower SW reduces activity of the hands through impact, not the size of the grip. Golfers have spent millions due to professional marketing.

  3. Mike Guzman

    Feb 25, 2022 at 11:23 pm

    I have Arthritis in the Palms of both hand. I am able to reduce the pain in both hands by having Winn Midsize W6 Wrap Soft Grips. I am still able to maintain my “10” Handicap, while using this larger Golf Grip. I have tried using the Standard Size Winn Soft Wrap Grip, but this Grip fails the reduce the pain in my Palms and Thumbs. I have also tried using the Super Stroke Cross Comfort Golf Grips, but again these Grips fail to relieve the pain as well as the Winn W6 Midsize Grips.

    • Jonas

      Apr 30, 2024 at 5:18 am

      I can confirm this! I have quite a lot of finger pain and larger Winn grip has reduced this pain a lot!!! I have a proper “old style” golf grip and was sized for a normal size with double tape originally – moving up a size has alleviated a lot of pain without hampering my game – in fact, now that I have less pain, I can swing freely.
      I have maintained a smaller grip on the wedges since I use much less force on short game.

  4. Keith Finley

    Feb 25, 2022 at 11:34 am

    According to Ping, I am aqua (1/16th undersize), bit I prefer the feel of standard velvets. I get handsy with the aqua. I imagine that would go away after a while but have never pulled the trigger…

  5. DB

    Feb 25, 2022 at 8:42 am

    I agree with your point, but I like +4 grips on my wedges. This allows for a similar feel when you choke down for short shots around the green. I’m curious what you think about that and if you would consider offering +4s.

  6. ChipNRun

    Feb 24, 2022 at 11:57 pm

    Sounds strange, but I do best with “midsize” Midsize grips. As I discovered two years ago, not all “midsize” are created equal.

    About 10 years ago, I started playing Midsize grips – usually Winn Dri-Tac. My fingers are “normal” length, but my palms are longer than average. If I spar for boxing, I need an extra four wraps in the palm to take up the slack so I don’t sprain the back of my hand. With gloves, I’m between cadet and cadet long.

    My midsize discovery came when I regripped irons and wedges with Golf Pride CP2 WRAPS in Midsize. CP2 = Midsize + Low Taper, so I was leaving a lot of shots out to the right from stifled turns.

    Went back to CP2 regular, and it worked OK. Redid my three MD wedges in Winn Dri-Tac Midsize, and it was just right.

    Will get Dri-Tac Mid for irons and hybrids too.

    Main thing midsize did was take up hand slack, and cut down amount of “fidgeting” at set-up. And, I seem to get just the right grip pressure with D-T Ms.

  7. L

    Feb 24, 2022 at 9:14 pm

    Lets ask Bryson how it really is lol

  8. Loweboy

    Feb 24, 2022 at 12:14 pm

    Standard grips on my irons, wedges and putter, mid-size on my driver and fairways. I cannot get used to oversized on the putter.

    Mid-size on the driver and fairways to help stop my hands from flipping, but I still find a way to do it, usually when I get tired and stop swinging with my legs/hips. A full body rotation with those clubs and it’s a nice baby draw or straight piped down the middle.

  9. JD

    Feb 24, 2022 at 11:28 am

    58 round Tour Velvet Cord +1 Double Side Tape. Forever & ever.

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Vincenzi’s LIV Golf Singapore betting preview: Course specialist ready to thrive once again

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After another strong showing in Australia, LIV Golf will head to Sentosa Golf Club in Singapore looking to build off of what was undoubtedly their best event to date.

Sentosa Golf Club sits on the southern tip of Singapore and is one of the most beautiful courses in the world. The course is more than just incredible scenically; it was also rated 55th in Golf Digest’s top-100 courses in 2022-2023 and has been consistently regarded as one of the best courses in Asia. Prior to being part of the LIV rotation, the course hosted the Singapore Open every year since 2005.

Sentosa Golf Club is a par 71 measuring 7,406 yards. The course will require precise ball striking and some length off the tee. It’s possible to go low due to the pristine conditions, but there are also plenty of hazards and difficult spots on the course that can bring double bogey into play in a hurry. The Bermudagrass greens are perfectly manicured, and the course has spent millions on the sub-air system to keep the greens rolling fast. I spoke to Asian Tour player, Travis Smyth, who described the greens as “the best [he’s] ever played.”

Davis Love III, who competed in a Singapore Open in 2019, also gushed over the condition of the golf course.

“I love the greens. They are fabulous,” the 21-time PGA Tour winner said.

Love III also spoke about other aspects of the golf course.

“The greens are great; the fairways are perfect. It is a wonderful course, and it’s tricky off the tee.”

“It’s a long golf course, and you get some long iron shots. It takes somebody hitting it great to hit every green even though they are big.”

As Love III said, the course can be difficult off the tee due to the length of the course and the trouble looming around every corner. It will take a terrific ball striking week to win at Sentosa Golf Club.

In his pre-tournament press conference last season, Phil Mickelson echoed many of the same sentiments.

“To play Sentosa effectively, you’re going to have a lot of shots from 160 to 210, a lot of full 6-, 7-, 8-iron shots, and you need to hit those really well and you need to drive the ball well.”

Golfers who excel from tee to green and can dial in their longer irons will have a massive advantage this week.

Stat Leaders at LIV Golf Adelaide:

Fairways Hit

1.) Louis Oosthuizen

2.) Anirban Lahiri

3.) Jon Rahm

4.) Brendan Steele

5.) Cameron Tringale

Greens in Regulation

1.) Brooks Koepka

2.) Brendan Steele

3.) Dean Burmester

4.) Cameron Tringale

5.) Anirban Lahiri

Birdies Made

1.) Brendan Steele

2.) Dean Burmester

3.) Thomas Pieters

4.) Patrick Reed

5.) Carlos Ortiz

LIV Golf Individual Standings:

1.) Joaquin Niemann

2.) Jon Rahm

3.) Dean Burmester

4.) Louis Oosthuizen

5.) Abraham Ancer

LIV Golf Team Standings:

1.) Crushers

2.) Legion XIII

3.) Torque

4.) Stinger GC

5.) Ripper GC

LIV Golf Singapore Picks

Sergio Garcia +3000 (DraftKings)

Sergio Garcia is no stranger to Sentosa Golf Club. The Spaniard won the Singapore Open in 2018 by five strokes and lost in a playoff at LIV Singapore last year to scorching hot Talor Gooch. Looking at the course setup, it’s no surprise that a player like Sergio has played incredible golf here. He’s long off the tee and is one of the better long iron players in the world when he’s in form. Garcia is also statistically a much better putter on Bermudagrass than he is on other putting surfaces. He’s putt extremely well on Sentosa’s incredibly pure green complexes.

This season, Garcia has two runner-up finishes, both of them being playoff losses. Both El Camaleon and Doral are courses he’s had success at in his career. The Spaniard is a player who plays well at his tracks, and Sentosa is one of them. I believe Sergio will get himself in the mix this week. Hopefully the third time is a charm in Singapore.

Paul Casey +3300 (FanDuel)

Paul Casey is in the midst of one of his best seasons in the five years or so. The results recently have been up and down, but he’s shown that when he’s on a golf course that suits his game, he’s amongst the contenders.

This season, Casey has finishes of T5 (LIV Las Vegas), T2 (LIV Hong Kong), and a 6th at the Singapore Classic on the DP World Tour. At his best, the Englishman is one of the best long iron players in the world, which makes him a strong fit for Sentosa. Despite being in poor form last season, he was able to fire a Sunday 63, which shows he can low here at the course.

It’s been three years since Casey has won a tournament (Omega Dubai Desert Classic in 2021), but he’s been one of the top players on LIV this season and I think he can get it done at some point this season.

Mito Pereira +5000 (Bet365)

Since Mito Pereira’s unfortunate demise at the 2022 PGA Championship, he’s been extremely inconsistent. However, over the past few months, the Chilean has played well on the International Series as well as his most recent LIV start. Mito finished 8th at LIV Adelaide, which was his best LIV finish this season.

Last year, Pereira finished 5th at LIV Singapore, shooting fantastic rounds of 67-66-66. It makes sense why Mito would like Sentosa, as preeminent ball strikers tend to rise to the challenge of the golf course. He’s a great long iron player who is long and straight off the tee.

Mito has some experience playing in Asia and is one of the most talented players on LIV who’s yet to get in the winner’s circle. I have questions about whether or not he can come through once in contention, but if he gets there, I’m happy to roll the dice.

Andy Ogletree +15000 (DraftKings)

Andy Ogletree is a player I expected to have a strong 2024 but struggled early in his first full season on LIV. After failing to crack the top-25 in any LIV event this year, the former U.S. Amateur champion finally figured things out, finished in a tie for 3rd at LIV Adelaide.

Ogletree should be incredible comfortable playing in Singapore. He won the International Series Qatar last year and finished T3 at the International Series Singapore. The 26-year-old was arguably the best player on the Asian Tour in 2023 and has been fantastic in the continent over the past 18 months.

If Ogletree has indeed found form, he looks to be an amazing value at triple-digit odds.

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Ryan: Lessons from the worst golf instructor in America

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In Tampa, there is a golf course that boasts carts that do not work, a water range, and a group of players none of which have any chance to break 80. The course is overseen by a staff of crusty men who have succeeded at nothing in life but ending up at the worst-run course in America. However, this place is no failure. With several other local courses going out of business — and boasting outstanding greens — the place is booked full.

While I came for the great greens, I stayed to watch our resident instructor; a poor-tempered, method teacher who caters to the hopeless. At first, it was simply hilarious. However, after months of listening and watching, something clicked. I realized I had a front-row seat to the worst golf instructor in America.

Here are some of my key takeaways.

Method Teacher

It is widely accepted that there are three types of golf instructors: system teachers, non-system teachers, and method teachers. Method teachers prescribe the same antidote for each student based on a preamble which teachers can learn in a couple day certification.

Method teaching allows anyone to be certified. This process caters to the lowest caliber instructor, creating the illusion of competency. This empowers these underqualified instructors with the moniker of “certified” to prey on the innocent and uninformed.

The Cult of Stack and Jilt

The Stack and Tilt website proudly boasts, “A golfer swings his hands inward in the backswing as opposed to straight back to 1) create power, similar to a field goal kicker moving his leg in an arc and 2) to promote a swing that is in-to-out, which produces a draw (and eliminates a slice).”

Now, let me tell you something, there is this law of the universe which says “energy can either be created or destroyed,” so either these guys are defying physics or they have no idea what they are taking about. Further, the idea that the first move of the backswing determines impact is conjecture with a splash of utter fantasy.

These are the pontifications of a method — a set of prescriptions applied to everyone with the hope of some success through the placebo effect. It is one thing for a naive student to believe, for a golf instructor to drink and then dispel this Kool-Aid is malpractice.

Fooled by Randomness

In flipping a coin, or even a March Madness bet, there is a 50-50 chance of success. In golf, especially for new players, results are asymmetric. Simply put: Anything can happen. The problem is that when bad instructors work with high handicappers, each and every shot gets its own diagnosis and prescription. Soon the student is overwhelmed.

Now here’s the sinister thing: The overwhelming information is by design. In this case, the coach is not trying to make you better, they are trying to make you reliant on them for information. A quasi Stockholm syndrome of codependency.

Practice

One of the most important scientists of the 20th century was Ivan Pavlov. As you might recall, he found that animals, including humans, could be conditioned into biological responses. In golf, the idea of practice has made millions of hackers salivate that they are one lesson or practice session from “the secret.”

Sunk Cost

The idea for the worst golf instructor is to create control and dependency so that clients ignore the sunk cost of not getting better. Instead, they are held hostage by the idea that they are one lesson or tip away from unlocking their potential.

Cliches

Cliches have the effect of terminating thoughts. However, they are the weapon of choice for this instructor. Add some hyperbole and students actually get no information. As a result, these players couldn’t play golf. When they did, they had no real scheme. With no idea what they are doing, they would descend into a spiral of no idea what to do, bad results, lower confidence, and running back to the lesson tee from more cliches.

The fact is that poor instruction is about conditioning players to become reliant members of your cult. To take away autonomy. To use practice as a form of control. To sell more golf lessons not by making people better but through the guise that without the teacher, the student can never reach their full potential. All under the umbrella of being “certified” (in a 2-day course!) and a melee of cliches.

This of course is not just happening at my muni but is a systemic problem around the country and around the world, the consequences of which are giving people a great reason to stop playing golf. But hey, at least it’s selling a lot of golf balls…

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Vincenzi’s 2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans betting preview

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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.

TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.

Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.

However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.

Past Winners at TPC Louisiana

  • 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
  • 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
  • 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
  • 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
  • 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
  • 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)

2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks

Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)

Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.

This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.

McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.

Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)

Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.

Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.

Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)

Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.

NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.

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