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Former major champ says Tiger had ‘an unprecedented equipment advantage’ in 2000

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On Wednesday, another social media discussion erupted after a rather controversial take on Tiger Woods from Graeme McDowell.

While anything that involves Tiger Woods is noteworthy, this was especially interesting because McDowell seemed to slightly discredit Woods’ dominance in the summer of 2000.

In the tweet, the 2010 U.S. Open champion claimed that Tiger had an unprecedented equipment advantage that summer thanks to Nike’s Tour Accuracy golf ball.

That year, Woods won the US Open, Open Championship and US PGA Championship all within three months.

Eddie Pepperell, who is known for his hilarious tweets then chimed in:

McDowell later followed up his initial tweet after receiving some backlash from Tiger defenders:

What do you make of G-Mac’s view, WRXers?

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  1. T-Bone

    Mar 23, 2022 at 11:59 am

    That ball was no better than the Titleist Professional of the time. Just because it had a solid core doesn’t mean it was better. Within a few years, it was known that Tigers’ Nike ball was the shortest, spin-iest ball out there. Anyone remember Phil’s comments that Tiger was using “inferior” equipment? People love to rewrite history these days.

  2. Brian Cook

    Mar 6, 2022 at 12:43 pm

    Just for the record, Mark O’Meara had a far bigger advantage in 1998 when he won The Open and The Masters using THE first multilayered ball…Top Flite Strata Tour Professional.

  3. LouF

    Mar 5, 2022 at 11:59 am

    The Pro V1 was released for sale in 2000, id bet the house Titlesist players had the ball in 2000. So how did Tiger have an equipment advantage?

    • JK

      Mar 7, 2022 at 7:00 am

      Most of the guys were still playing Titleist- Professional or Tour Balata. Pro V1 didn’t make it on tour until October 2000

  4. DH

    Mar 3, 2022 at 10:36 am

    I’m sure Tiger got a boost from having a great ball… but no way it was 1 to 2 shots.

    PGA tour scoring average dropped by .31 from 2000 to 2001, so I highly doubt that Tiger was picking up 1 to 2 shots on the field in the summer of 2000 bc of his ball. Also note over time the scoring average has continued to drop there are more attributes than just one ball.

    Looking at Tigers scoring you do see a drop, from 1999 to 2000, but it was also the 4th year in a row it had dropped because of how much better he was getting – attributing all of his gains to the ball seems off (and still wouldn’t be close to 2 shots). Unfortunately, McDowell doesn’t have PGA Tour stats until 2001 (and he only played 1 US event that year) so we can’t see what difference that ball made for him.

    Mark O’Mera won two majors with a solid core ball in 1998 and there were players using solid cores long before that. sure the Nike ball was better, but Tiger wasn’t the true front runner in solid core balls.

  5. AnnaD

    Mar 3, 2022 at 12:12 am

    I was searching for duck heads and this website came up. Lol! You guys are such geeks.

  6. Anna

    Mar 2, 2022 at 12:27 pm

    I found this site while Googling sex toys to use. Interesting that I was looking for dildos and found you guys. I’m female if haven’t realized. Anyway, I cannot believe that there are men who care so much about a game where one hits a little ball into a little hole, but then again, it’s a game with a little ball and hole, so I’m not surprised. Disappointed? Yes. Surely, you all have something more to do with your time than to argue about who has the best ball and club, but then again, you are boys playing a silly game when you could be with someone like me playing a better game. That is why you will never be with someone like me.

  7. Justsomedude

    Feb 24, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    This comment thread is a perfect(!) microcosm of our culture in 2022 lol. Starts w/a golf equipment discussion and devolves into a social-political death spiral. We’ll done gang, you complete me

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  9. Chuck

    Feb 23, 2022 at 8:50 pm

    Three things are true, all at once.

    1. In the years 1996-2001, and beyond to some extent, Tiger was a qualitatively superior striker of the golf ball, to anyone on tour. The end of the balata era. Even as an amateur in the US Open in 1996, into his rookie debut, and through his astonishing Masters win 1997; he was playing a different game. Not totally polished yet, but awesome almost beyond belief.

    2. McDowell has a valid point; being one of the few early adopters of a solid core multilayer urethane ball was something of an advantage for all the Nike ball players who used it in 2000. That included Tiger.

    3. Ron Sirak’s point is also valid, and important. If the multilayer solid core urethane ball had never been introduced, and judging by how Tiger moved and spun balata balls as a young pro, he would certainly have been even more dominant. Urethane balls were eventually an equalizer, not an advantage for Tiger.

    I am betting that Tiger, Graeme McDowell, Ron Sirak, Geoff Shackelford, Jack Nicklaus and Peter Kostis would all agree with these three simultaneous things.

    • Paulo

      Feb 24, 2022 at 2:49 am

      Summed it up perfectly. One of the more enlighten comments I’ve read on here in a while.

  10. Steve

    Feb 23, 2022 at 8:04 pm

    Do not know for sure how that ball helped Tiger, but I was at a tournament where John Daly and Tim Herron were playing with Steve Ellington and who ever his partner was….three were using titlist balls and Daly (who was at LEAST 40 yards longer every driver hole) was using a Wilson Ultra Compaction ball (before urethane covers). On one hole Daly was clearly 60 yards longer and his ball rolled up to my foot at least 320 yards from tee…player and ball can be a big deal…

  11. AFDouble

    Feb 23, 2022 at 4:25 pm

    This is news? I thought everyone was pretty much aware of this. It is not a slight against Tiger’s ability, nor an opinion on his other Nike equipment at the time. However, he was using an advanced solid ball while most competitors were still using an obsolete wound ball.

    “Following Woods’ dominant 2000 season, Titleist released the Pro V1 during the second week of October and watched as forty-seven Tour players immediately put it in play, making it the largest pluralistic shift of equipment at one event in golf history”

  12. David S.

    Feb 23, 2022 at 12:27 pm

    Just curious why any negative comment regarding “anything” Tiger brings such vitriol or super defnsiveness? I just find all of the “I’m Offended” nonsense in our society ridiculous. Tiger worship has gotten out of control – can’t watch anything golf without the apparent need to glorify him. Sorry, just a flawed human like all of us. We can admire his talent and accomplishments and thank him for making fat country club golfers into athletes, but this other bowing of the knee is, in my opinion, overdone. Let the haters commence!

    • I Know A Donkey

      Feb 23, 2022 at 5:35 pm

      Kuch Sucks Donkey

    • Jack Nash

      Feb 24, 2022 at 8:28 am

      Welcome to Woke College and all the learned who’ve graduated to sit in basements everywhere spewing their brand of criticism.

  13. I'm woke

    Feb 23, 2022 at 11:54 am

    I had collard greens and fried chicken this past week that my wife cooked for us and they were awesome!!

  14. Shane Quimby

    Feb 23, 2022 at 11:30 am

    That ball wasn’t great, and like one of the other posters said, the Nike equipment was garbage. The driver was a complete disaster. I agree with Sirak. Tiger would have won more with less forgiving equipment. I had a beer a couple years ago with Hal Sutton, and that was his take as well.

    • Paulo

      Feb 24, 2022 at 2:50 am

      The stuff you bought at retail was Shane. Make no mistake the stuff the worlds best use is not what you buy off the rack and that was even more true with Nike

  15. Tom

    Feb 23, 2022 at 11:26 am

    Cry to the USGA, Graeme.

    They approved it for use in competition.

  16. JDM Club Ho

    Feb 23, 2022 at 10:44 am

    I didn’t find this comment from G Mac to be critical. It’s pretty well know that woods was a quick adopter of metal woods and solid core balls. At the time he took crap for this. It wasn’t until winning the British where the old boys took note and started to change over. I’ve been watching major re-runs on YouTube, there were are comments from the commentators on Woods using a special ball or having a advantage with metal woods. The comments from the broadcast team were along the lines of physical dominance and skill advantage.

  17. CrashTestDummy

    Feb 23, 2022 at 10:40 am

    I’m not Tiger Woods, so I never used the Nike Tour Accuracy ball. lol. Now I want to use it. Where do I get a dozen?

  18. CrashTestDummy

    Feb 23, 2022 at 10:21 am

    I never used the Nike Tour Accuracy because I am not Tiger Woods. Lol. Now I want to use it. How do I get my hands on it?

  19. Crashtestdummy

    Feb 23, 2022 at 9:59 am

    I never used the Nike Tour Accuracy ball before. Now I want to use it. How do I get my hands on one. ?

    • joe

      Feb 23, 2022 at 11:21 am

      oh crashtestdummy crashtestdummy crashtestdummy. ugh

  20. GAB

    Feb 23, 2022 at 2:02 am

    Interesting how McDowell’s comments makes no reference to the fact that Tiger was using DG X100 shafts in his Driver and 3 wood whereas his competitors were using distance enhancing graphite shafts! He probably forgot about that one ?

  21. Peters Kostis

    Feb 22, 2022 at 4:47 pm

    Lets just talk about Peter Kostis here since the site Gods won’t let us chime in on the other one.

    • Henry R Fitzgerald

      Feb 22, 2022 at 5:23 pm

      I have zero problem with Kostis calling out Tiger.

      It is the same thing, Tiger stereotypically used Sushi, because Asians don’t eat anything else, lol….As Fuzzy stereotypically assumed blacks didn’t eat anything but chicken and collard greens.

      As stupid as stupid does!

      I know Tiger is half black, but he’s not untouchable. He made a boneheaded comment and Kostis was right to call him out.

      • Toyzrx

        Feb 23, 2022 at 11:00 am

        I hear you… but nobody will touch Tiger on his Sushi comment unfortunately, not to mention discussing the HBO show, which reveals so much about him.

      • Dr. Ich

        Feb 23, 2022 at 1:07 pm

        He’s only half untouchable

      • Thomas A

        Feb 23, 2022 at 1:18 pm

        Sorry buddy. Hideki specifically talked about questioning whether or not he would serve sushi at his Master’s Champions’ dinner, being not sure if enough guests would enjoy the dish. Tiger was reflecting on Hideki’s comments.

      • James Kendzior

        Feb 24, 2022 at 12:10 am

        Did you read the article? Hideki had apparently indicated that his Masters menu would include sushi and Tiger responded in the interview that he was looking forward to it. And while he’s not Japanese, Tiger is half Asian so that may account for his apparent fondness for sushi. And no, I’m not saying you have to be Asian to like sushi.

      • Jack Nash

        Feb 24, 2022 at 8:31 am

        This site is now under the control of social justice and the woke. Heaven forbid you’re allowed to speak freely, but of course no foul language, which includes Any criticism of E. Woods, but Pile on for Philly M.

  22. Marc

    Feb 22, 2022 at 3:03 pm

    What a crock. You don’t beat everyone at the us open pebble beach by 15 strokes because of a ball, but because of how you strike the ball. He was also playing NIKE clubs that were so bad that they stopped making them! So how bad would he have beat them had he played the best irons at the time? Sounds like a lot of sour grapes.

    • Ben

      Feb 23, 2022 at 11:31 am

      Nike didn’t stop making clubs because they were bad. They stopped because making clothing and shoes is so much more profitable for them. Koepka and Finau are still using the Vapor Pro 3 iron.

    • DougE

      Feb 24, 2022 at 8:46 am

      I could be mistaken, but I’m pretty sure Tiger was playing Titleist clubs in 2000. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  23. Wow this is lame

    Feb 22, 2022 at 2:34 pm

    Children.

  24. Ryan

    Feb 22, 2022 at 12:22 pm

    Didn’t David Duval and every other Nike staffer play the ball too?

    • Jon

      Feb 23, 2022 at 9:26 am

      Precisely Ryan. Didn’t David Duval have a ball designed for him? The DD model?

  25. Ag

    Feb 22, 2022 at 11:04 am

    Where’s the lie? After the US Open tho…Titleist rushed getting ProV1 into its players hands. Nike should’ve sued Acushnet for infrigement.

    We’d still be buying Nike TW balls in 2022.

  26. Henry R Fitzgerald

    Feb 22, 2022 at 10:52 am

    The PGA Tour has become so pathetically “woke”, people can’t no longer have a civilized conversation.

    Everything is ‘racist’ or taken all the way down to the lowest common denominator.

    The PGA Tour is pathetic!

    • Woke Is Good

      Feb 22, 2022 at 12:50 pm

      Being “woke” is a good thing. It means being aware of social injustices. It’s the opposite of white privilege. Not sure what this has to do with what ball Tiger Woods plays, but some people strain to find a link where none exists.

      • Woke is a joke!

        Feb 22, 2022 at 1:00 pm

        Come home little justice warrior………..mommy has your food ready.

      • Henry R Fitzgerald

        Feb 22, 2022 at 1:21 pm

        If you are ashamed of who you are that’s your problem.

        If you think we are an unfair country, pack your bags and go elsewhere buttercup.

      • Henry R Fitzgerald

        Feb 22, 2022 at 1:24 pm

        White Privilege?

        What a bunch of social baloney. Only ignorant people would even entertain such nonsense.

        Using your logic, I guess Black privilege is also a thing.

        Lol…..

        • James Kendzior

          Feb 24, 2022 at 12:13 am

          If I had to choose, I’d much rather be woke than brain dead.

      • Woke is Obtuse

        Feb 22, 2022 at 1:36 pm

        It is 2022, the world continues to move forward except the United States.

        While our kids are taught in school that there are x amount of sexes, Chinese kids are learning how to hack our electric grid.

        That’s woke for you.

      • joe

        Feb 23, 2022 at 11:24 am

        When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

      • GDB99

        Feb 23, 2022 at 11:47 am

        That’s not what it means.

      • Brian

        Feb 23, 2022 at 1:47 pm

        Lol. What horse shit.

      • SJW's are G A Y

        Apr 7, 2022 at 7:37 am

        The only injustices I see in our society is “Affirmative Action.”

  27. LuiLatromba

    Feb 22, 2022 at 9:27 am

    Unnecessary tweet of an ex player.

    • Henry R Fitzgerald

      Feb 22, 2022 at 11:16 am

      Do you have a U.S. Open trophy?

      I didn’t think so. Fool!

      • LuiLatromba

        Feb 22, 2022 at 11:38 am

        You neither clown!

        • Henry R Fitzgerald

          Feb 22, 2022 at 12:00 pm

          Nice comeback, lol….

          Back to your mommy’s basement.

        • Joey5Picks

          Feb 22, 2022 at 12:48 pm

          Henry isn’t the one calling a former US Open champion an “ex player”, “clown”.

          • Henry R Fitzgerald

            Feb 22, 2022 at 1:30 pm

            Exactly!

            Thanks!

          • LuiLatromba

            Feb 22, 2022 at 1:55 pm

            Could you please tell me when I asked your opinion?
            Or as you’re so smart, tell me which is the point to fire a tweet like that 22 years later.
            Go back on facebook Joey.

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16 LIV Golf pros threaten legal action against DP World Tour; DP World Tour responds

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16 LIV Golf players have threatened the DP World Tour with legal action after being banned from the Scottish Open and fined £100,000.

The 16 players will likely include Europeans such as Ian Poulter, Lee Westwood, Sergio Garcia, Graeme McDowell and Martin Kaymer. In the letter obtained by “The Telegraph”, the players said that the Tour’s actions to ban and fine players “will have adverse consequences on the DP World Tour.”

The letter ‘implored’ the DP World Tour to “reconsider your recent penalties and sanctions” and rescind the fines and suspensions by 5pm on Friday. If the Tour doesn’t rescind the bans and fines by that time, the players will be taking immediate legal action. “If not, you will leave us with no choice but to employ the various other means and methods at our disposal to rectify these wrongs,” the letter states.

The letter also criticizes the DP World Tour’s decision to partner with the PGA TOUR for the Scottish Open and Barracuda Championship. Due to their alliance, some DP World Tour players have been forced out of the Scottish Open to make room for PGA Tour players. Therefore, some DP World Tour players will have to fly to Kentucky to play for a smaller purse in the week before the 150th Open Championship.

Additionally, the 16 players criticized the DP World Tour’s new deal with the PGA Tour that will see the top 10 players on the Race to Dubai rankings earn PGA Tour cards.

“That the DP World Tour top performers will now earn PGA Tour cards serves only to solidify the DP World Tour as second fiddle to the PGA Tour and depletes the DP World Tour’s top rising talent even further”.

Full letter here:

“In Mr Pelley’s latest communication, he uses the statement that every action in life comes with a consequence. We agree, and we are concerned that the actions of the Tour against us, LIV Golf, and golf in general will have adverse consequences on the DP World Tour, a tour and an organisation that, despite our recent interactions, we care deeply for.

“The intention of this letter is not to further divide us, but to respond to Tour statements and to pose questions that the Tour should answer and we should discuss in detail. Instead of spending our time, energy, financial resources, and focus on appeals, injunctions, and lawsuits, we would implore you, the custodians of the DP World Tour, to reconsider your recent penalties and sanctions, and instead focus our energies on forging a path forward that is better for the DP World Tour members and the game of golf.

“To this end, we ask that you rescind your fines and suspensions by 5:00 pm on Friday, July 1, 2022. In addition, we represent over 5 percent of the DP World Tour membership and, under its articles of association, we ask you to convene a meeting of Tour membership to discuss these important matters further. If not, you will leave us with no choice but to employ the various other means and methods at our disposal to rectify these wrongs.

“We appreciate that the argument being put forward is that the ‘strategic alliance’ with the PGA Tour will provide overall benefit to DP World Tour members – hence the competitive threat to the PGA Tour being treated differently when it comes to releases and other matters.

“To begin with, we do not accept that protecting the PGA Tour through this alliance could in any way justify this disparate treatment. Even if it could, what are these benefits? This a question we have asked for many months.

“Thus far, the option to play the Barracuda Championship instead of the Scottish Open doesn’t appear to be one that benefits the membership at all. Ultimately, approximately 40 DP World Tour members who would have been eligible for the Scottish Open on the DP World tour will now not be eligible, and instead will only have the option to go and play on the PGA Tour in Kentucky the week before The Open, for less money but at a higher cost to participate.

“In addition, PGA Tour players have been encouraged to play the Scottish Open through a stipend to cover travel costs, but the same benefit is not afforded to DP World Tour members?! That the DP World Tour top performers will now earn PGA Tour cards serves only to solidify the DP World Tour as second fiddle to the PGA Tour and depletes the DP World Tour’s top rising talent even further. And without regard to whether this collaboration is lawful, would this collaboration be happening without LIV Golf entering the market?”

In response, the DP World Tour released this statement on Friday morning:

“There has been a leak to the media of a letter we received on behalf of a number of LIV Golf players which contains so many inaccuracies that it cannot remain unchallenged.

“Before joining LIV Golf, players knew there would be consequences if they chose money over competition. Many of them at the time understood and accepted that. Indeed, as one player named in the letter said in a media interview earlier this year; ‘If they ban me, they ban me.’ It is not credible that some are now surprised with the actions we have taken.

“The letter claims that these players ‘care deeply’ for the DP World Tour. An analysis of the past participation statistics on our Tour in recent years of several of the leading players named, suggests otherwise.

“One player in particular named in the note has only played six Rolex Series events in the past five years. Another one, only four. I wish many of them had been as keen to play on our Tour then as they seem to be now, based on the fact they have either resigned their membership of the PGA TOUR or, if they are still in membership, have been suspended indefinitely.

“Furthermore, given how deeply these players say they care about the DP World Tour, perhaps some of them could have played in Ireland this week in support of our new title sponsor, in particular one player who gave us a signed commitment to play at Mount Juliet.

“With that player currently in action at Pumpkin Ridge, you can imagine the allegation in the letter that we are in the wrong, is hard to accept.

“We also take great exception to an allegation made near the end of the letter which states we are somehow playing ‘second fiddle’ to the PGA TOUR. Nothing could be further from the truth.

“We held a player meeting in Ireland on Tuesday where we outlined in great detail all the many benefits of our expanded relationship with the PGA TOUR.

“One of those is an unprecedented ten cards on offer to the PGA TOUR, cards that many of the players named in this letter desperately wanted to attain in the early stages of their careers. Why now be critical of those trying to do the same?

“The letter also expresses supposed concern about the future of the DP World Tour. Rest assured no-one should have any worries on that score.

“The DP World Tour is a vibrant, independent and global Tour with increasing and guaranteed prize fund growth over the next five years. We have fantastic tournaments across the year including a host of wonderful national Opens, all played in front of huge crowds, illustrated perfectly by this week’s Horizon Irish Open.

“Finally, it would not be appropriate for me to comment on any potential legal matters.

“I will simply reiterate that our Members’ Regulations which have been in force for more than 30 years, have been accepted by all the players, are there to protect all of our members, and we will use them to take all necessary steps to protect their interests.

“The sanctions for those members who knowingly broke our rules by playing at the Centurion Club without a release are proportionate, fair and, I believe, considered necessary by the majority of our members.”

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Phil Mickelson makes a couple of interesting equipment changes for LIV Golf’s Portland event

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For many years, golf fans watched Phil Mickelson using what may have been one of the shortest putters on tour, but while he won the PGA Championship with his trusty Odyssey Milled Blade “Phil Mickelson” he’s been tinkering with the length for a while.

Last September at the Fortinet Championship, Phil was spotted with a new, extended, grip on the flat stick, allowing him to create an ‘arm-lock’ style that made him feel as if, “I’ll get on a roll and just start making a lot.”

So to this week’s LIV tournament at Pumpkin Ridge, and the six-time major winner is experimenting once again.

Twitter’s ‘Phil Mickelson Tracker’ posted a photo of his extended putter with the one-word exclamation “#Armlock!”

The replies were mostly positive, suggesting it can only help the three-time Masters champion improve past some poor putting stats. Indeed, since a standout gain of over 12 shots putting at Kiawah Island, Lefty has lost strokes to the field in nine of his last 12 recorded starts, with his worst performance being a loss of over ten shots at the BMW Championship last August. No wonder he lobbed on the extra rubber at Napa.

With his Callaway deal on hold, Mickelson has also made a change in his wedges.

Lefty has a Ping Eye2 wedge in the bag this week, with the model being an Eye2 XG (a reproduction of the original Eye 2 but with 2010 conforming grooves) which he has used occasionally since 2014. 

Mickelson sits T30 after the opening day’s action in Portland, after shooting a disappointing round of 3 over par on Thursday.

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Rory McIlroy and Sergio Garcia’s personal relationship has reportedly turned toxic

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In 2014 Rory McIlroy and Sergio Garcia were the so-called ‘dream team’ of the Ryder Cup.

The pair totted up a combined total of 5-and-a-half points of the 16-and-a-half won by the victorious European team, beating the pairing of Jim Furyk and Hunter Mahan in the second day foursomes before both winning their singles.

Their relationship was so solid that McIlroy was honored to be an usher at Garcia’s wedding in 2017, but recently it’s all gone sour, with Golf Monthly reporting a “complete deterioration” of the relationship.

A week ago, it was widley reported that the Spaniard had told his Northern Irish friend that they were now “finally getting paid what we deserve,” a comment that received the reply, “Sergio. We’re golfers. We don’t deserve to be paid anything.”

According to Golf Monthly, the relationship has now “turned personal,” with the world number three unhappy that his old friend has dedicated himself to the Saudi-backed tour, putting the selection process for the Ryder Cup into confusion. The rhetoric between the two is reported to be “bitter and personal.”

At the Wells Fargo Championship in May, as he was hacking out of the rough after a ruling, Garcia was heard muttering, “I can’t wait to leave this tour,” before being confirmed as one of the initial participants of the LIV Golf Series.

Whilst it is unclear exactly what the sanctions are with regards to the Ryder Cup 2023, the way the PGA and DP Tours are moving, there is a distinct possibility that LIV players will be seriously affected – though Garcia has made clear that he wants to be a part of it.

At a press conference before the inaugural LIV event at the Centurion Club, Garcia stated, “I haven’t resigned from the European Tour because I would like to still be a member. I’m European, I love the European Tour. I played it for 23 years. Obviously we’re going to have to wait and see what the European Tour does. But I definitely would like to keep my membership and get my chance to make the Ryder Cup team because I love that event. But we’ll wait and see what happens over there.”

Whilst recent LIV press conferences on site have caused their own controversy, Garcia has prompted his own backlash.

After reportedly delivering an anti-DP World Tour rant at the BMW International in Germany last week, Golf Monthly reports that one tour player commented:

“They (LIV players) all think they are untouchable, and they all think the tours can’t do anything. I think they’re all about to realize they’re wrong. It is short sighted to think regulations can’t change and that there isn’t a lot of ill-feeling towards them. I think they’ve miscalculated quite dramatically.

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