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What GolfWRXers are saying about a tee height rollback

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the validity of a potential tee height rollback. WRXer ‘Ryan84’ makes a case for shortening tees to curb distance in the game, saying

“Why has limiting tee height not gained more traction in the distance debate? While players are obviously much faster, they are optimizing their launch and spin so much with these massive tees.

I remember in the Payne Valley event, JT brought out his “bomber tee”, which was 4+ inches, and I know Bryson uses a massive one as well. I imagine a max 1″ tee height or something like that would not allow someone like Bryson to be using a 4-degree driver.

Additionally, this would have the least amount of impact on the OEMs, golf in general, and is easy to implement. Not a bad place to start”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts on the idea in our forum – with the vast majority believing a rollback of any kind is unnecessary.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • ChipNRun: “Short tees rule would be about as effective as countermeasures against computer hackers. Might be effective for a few months, but then some pro or some tour van guy would come up with a way around it (like shallow-headed drivers others have mentioned).”
  • DFS PFD: “Let’s just let them play; the Tour does not need more regulation at this point to attract new golfers and grow the game.”
  • b.mattay: “Would make no difference. If I set up my driver a little different spec-wise, I can hit it just as far at 1-2 down as I can at 2-3 up.”

Entire Thread: “Tee height rollback”

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Gianni is the Assistant Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at [email protected] Follow him on Twitter @giannimosquito

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  1. Rascal

    Apr 22, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    I have a better idea: sand tees only, and you can only use so much sand per tee.

    • Shallowface

      Apr 22, 2021 at 6:24 pm

      People chewing up their $600 driver whacking a pile of sand on every tee. Yeah, right.

  2. Paul Runyan

    Apr 22, 2021 at 11:11 am

    Then we would have to reduce the overall size and height of the driver with a 1 inch tee.

    Persimmon anyone!?

  3. Paul Bearer

    Apr 22, 2021 at 7:26 am

    Band-aid over a bullet hole.

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Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (10/26/21): AutoFlex SF505 driver shaft

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At GolfWRX, we love golf, plain and simple.

We are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways. It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buy and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for an AutoFlex SF505 driver shaft

From the seller (@Gehly): “AutoFlex SF505 (std. stiff flex) Driver shaft, untipped w/ Callaway adapter. Rainbow graphics and nice blue MCC+4 grip installed. Length is 44.5” from end of adapter to butt of grip. $625″

To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: AutoFlex SF505 driver shaft

This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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Tommy Fleetwood WITB 2021 (October)

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  • Tommy Fleetwood what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup.

Driver: TaylorMade SIM2 Max (8 degrees @9.25)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Kuro Kage XTS 70 X

3-wood: TaylorMade SIM2 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana DF 70 TX

5-wood: TaylorMade SIM2 Max (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana DF 80 TX

7-wood: TaylorMade SIM2 Max (21 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana DF 80 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P7TW (3-PW)
Shafts: Project X 6.5

Wedges: TaylorMade Hi-Toe (52-09), Titleist Vokey Design SM8 WedgeWorks (60-T)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

Putter: Odyssey White Hot OG #1
Grip: SuperStroke

Ball: TaylorMade TP5x (2021) #19

Grips: Iomic, Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

More photos of Tommy Fleetwood’s WITB in the forums.

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Ventus Notes: The rise of Fujikura Ventus on tour

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Fujikura’s Ventus shafts swept the top three spots in our GolfWRX Members Choice voting this year, and the popularity of the Red, Blue, and Black shafts extends beyond our membership all the way to golf’s professional ranks.

As a refresher: Ventus relies on Fujikura’s proprietary VeloCore Technology to tighten shot dispersion and enhance performance on off-center shots.

“As swing speeds increase on Tour over the last few years, the Tour player is seeking tighter dispersion to hit more fairways,” said John Hovis, Tour Operations & Technical Services Manager at Fujikura. “We challenged our engineers to develop a stable, low spinning, stiff tip shaft to improve control and ball speeds and the result was Ventus.”

The multi-material VeloCore derives its stability from ultra-high modulus pitch 70-ton carbon fiber (about 150 percent stronger and more stable than T1100g) and 40-ton bias layers that run the full length of the shaft.

Ventus also features an ultra-stiff tip section and an accelerated taper butt section that maximizes energy transfer through the swing. It’s available in weights and flexes ranging from 57 grams to 86 grams and R2 up to X flex.

Fujikura Ventus models

Red: Mid launch, mid-high spin
Blue: Low launch, mid spin
Black: Low launch, low spin

Fujikura Tour success

A few morsels to speak to the primacy of Ventus…

In the “driver, fairway, and hybrid shafts combined” category Ventus is the most played wood shaft model on the PGA Tour for the 2020-2021 season.

14.5 percent of all wood shafts used this season on PGA Tour are Ventus. 25.84 percent are Fujikura, more generally.

At the 2021 Travelers Championship, there were more Ventus shafts in play (82) than and next closest competitor (63).

Fujikura is the No. 1 wood shaft on LPGA Tour in 2021 with a 25 percent share.

Fujikura is the No. 1 wood shaft on Japan’s JGTO Tour in 2021 at 36.2 percent.

Fujikura is No. 1 wood shaft on the Champions Tour in 2021 at 30.82 percent.

12 players have won PGA Tour events with a Fujikura wood shaft this year, including the 2020 Masters and 2021 PGA Championship winners.

Notable players who have gamed a Fujikura Ventus shaft at some point this season: Hideki Matsuyama, Phil Mickelson, Rory McIlroy, Patrick Cantlay, Louis Oosthuizen, Jordan Spieth, Sergio Garcia, Garrick Higgo, Adam Scott, Lexi Thompson, and Nelly Korda.

A few setups, below.

Jordan Spieth

Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X

Phil Mickelson (PGA Championship)

Driver: Callaway Epic Speed Triple Diamond (6 degrees @5.5)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X (47.9 inches)

Rory McIlroy 

Driver: TaylorMade SIM2 (9 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 7 X

A final word

Ventus is Fujikura’s No. 1 volume top-grossing shaft in the aftermarket in 2021. This is unheard of for the company as it’s a $350 shaft. Historically, Vista Pro or Pro shafts have traditionally been Fujikura’s highest volume movers as they are $125 and $200 respectively.

Fujikura Ventus specs

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