4 iron? Or 5 through PW irons? – GolfWRXers discuss

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3 years ago

Nov 17, 2020

In our forums, our members have been discussing whether a 4-iron or 4-hybrid is a better option. WRXer ‘Writing Running’ says:

“I do not own a 4 iron. Rather, my bag contains a 4 hybrid and 5 through PW irons (Ping G410). I can move my 5 iron pretty well but am not in love with my hybrid — feels fickle, but yes easy to get off the ground.

I play my irons well. I am thinking of buying a 4 iron for shots from the rough at 190+ and for my push out game (play in heavily wooded fairways in the upper Midwest). What do others have in their bag that might help me make this decision? Thanks.”

And our members have been offering up their thoughts in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

ChipNRun: “I’m unusual. I carry a 4H and a 4i. The 4i is tweaked: it has a parallel hosel, so I refitted it with a hybrid shaft; original was steel KBS Tour 90. I use my 4i as a driving iron, and for shots off the fairway from a good lie, especially into wind. Even with hybrid shaft, I get a lower, semi-stinger flight with lots of rollout. Caution: a 4i out of the rough can be iffy.”
MattM97: “I play a 4i, and I’m comfortable with it, if you’re comfortable with a 5i then could get a 4i, other option is a 9 wood, but that’s if you’re comfortable and confident hitting woods especially off the deck, also not really a common option but it’s out there for sure.”
pgarob: “I just added a TMB 4-iron. More forgiveness than the traditional 4-iron and just easier to hit. Play the T100s irons in 5-PW.”
LeoLeo99: “I can hit my 4 iron off the tee but struggle with it off the deck and even off the tee it’s best for a fairway finder. Doesn’t go high enough to hold a green. Out with the 4 iron, in with the 7 wood. I really like my 7 wood and wish I bought it sooner. Hard to find in a stiff shaft but I’m glad I found it and bought it. Hybrids always went left for me. Hook city unless I really make a great swing and try to cut the ball. Never really sure where it’s going with the hybrid.”

Entire Thread: “4 iron? Or 5 through PW irons?”

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Callaway Apex Pro, Apex CB, Apex MB combo irons – Club Junkie Reviews

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52 mins ago

Dec 1, 2023

Brian Knudson

When Callaway released the new Apex Pro, Apex CB, and Apex MB irons in August, better-skilled golfers were very excited to get them out on the course to try for themselves.

The Apex Pro packs a ton of technology into a small head size with reduced offset and a thinner topline. Callaway updated the new Apex CB with a new sole design for better turf interaction and shot consistency. The Apex MB is the blade for elite players who are looking for precise distance control and shot shaping.

Callaway knows some golfers like to mix and match clubs from different sets to optimize their performance, so I was very intrigued to see how the Apex Pro Series Triple Play iron set combined all three irons.

Callaway Apex Pro Long Irons (4, 5, 6)

When you set the new Apex Pro irons down, you will be pleased with the look of reduced offset and a compact shape. The irons aren’t so small that you get intimidated, I think Callaway picked a good size. Being slightly larger than the CB and MB gives you a little more confidence that you don’t need to strike it dead center in order to get a good shot out of them.

The Pros use multi-material construction to add distance and forgiveness while the forged face and body give you soft feel and distance control. Urethane Microspheres are also used to dampen vibration and give the Pro irons a soft and solid feel. Now the GolfWRXer in me wishes the Pro had a touch less offset, but I like the overall shape and think the more rounded toe gives them a softer look.

Out on the course, the 4, 5, and 6-irons are easy to hit and do offer you a little extra firepower for those longer shots. The feel is soft and muted, even on mishits, and the turf interaction from the Dynamic Sole design resists digging in soft conditions. The 4-iron is a real cannon off the tee on short par 4’s and long par 3’s, giving you the distance as well as added height to stop the ball on the green.

Off the turf, you can easily elevate the 5 and 6-iron shots into greens, but all of the Pro irons offer better forgiveness than you might expect. My miss is generally off the toe and those shots still get up in the air and carry. When you miss, you can still carry that bunker or get the ball to the front of the green.

Apex CB Mid Irons (7, 8, 9)

These might be my favorite looking out of the three iron sets in terms of size and shape. They blend some of the roundness from the Apex Pro with a slightly sharper toe and more compact size. The Apex CB have very little offset, and the transition from hosel to leading edge is done well and without too much curvature.

The soles are more narrow, but you can see more of the angles in the Dynamic Sole. The pre-worn leading edge and trailing-edge relief stand out more and work very well. I play in Michigan, and you rarely come across a firm and fast fairway, so turf interaction is very noticeable in these softer conditions. Much like the Apex Pro, the CB gets into the turf immediately and wants to shallow out and exit quickly.

Solidly struck shots feel so solid and soft with a heavy “thud” at impact. When it comes to feel, these irons will easily hold their own against other popular forged CBs. Shots hit thin or off the toe will bring more vibration to your hands and produce a clickier sound.

Distance control with the Apex CB irons is very, very good. Well-struck shots seem to fly exactly the same distance and height every time. The launch is a little lower than the Apex Pro but you still can elevate them off the turf or tee. These irons also seem to spin a bit more as you notice shots having a little more curvature to them. Into the wind, you can see a touch of rise in the shot. You will notice a little more of a dropoff in carry when you miss the center of the face, but directionally the ball stays online well.

Callaway added MIM weights in the toe, and as much as they perfect the balance of each iron, they seem to add some forgiveness as well. Skilled players will love the shotmaking ability of the CB: You can hit them high, low, left, or right, and in any combination of the aforementioned.

Apex MB Short Irons (10, 11)

First, just having irons with a “10” and an “11” on the sole is flat-out cool. That little difference is fun to see and they always get comments from other golfers. While all of the new Apex irons blend well together, these have the most distinctive look to my eye. They are the edgiest look with a sharper toe and straight leading edge. There is a lack of softness and roundness to the me, but again, they blend in well with the set.

I only have the pitching and gap wedge in the set, but that is about where my skill tops out! The MB will demand your attention as they obviously are the least forgiving in the set. While well-struck shots will reward you with impeccably soft feel and a solid “thud” sound, off-center will be a little more harsh on your hands and ears. My misses tend to be the most dramatic and you will see a big drop off in distance when you hit it out on the toe. Where the Apex Pro will get you on the green, the MB can keep you just off depending on the miss.

For being such high-lofted clubs, they do keep a lower ball flight that carries a lot of spin into the green. You can easily fire at tight pins with confidence that the trajectory and spin will keep the ball close to its landing spot. And since they are MBs, you can flight those shots any way you would like with ease.

Turf interaction is good, but these will dig the most out of the set. But even with the deeper divot, the irons get through the turf very quickly.

Matching the gap wedge to the set is something I have liked in this set. There is just a feeling of consistency on full, or close-to-full shots that you don’t get with a sand wedge-style head. Those full shots kind of feel like you are just hitting a pitching wedge but at a shorter distance. The “11-iron” still works around the green, and you can hit little pitch and chip shots with plenty of spin, even with an open face.

Overall, Callaway’s Triple Play offers a little bit of everything for players who need a little help in the long irons but want consistency in the scoring clubs. Feel, distance, and forgiveness are all added to the mix in good amounts in order to balance out the set. If you are a single-digit handicap who wants a players look from address but needs a little help, Callaway’s Apex Pro Series combo sets are well worth trying out.

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Whats in the Bag

Tony Finau WITB 2023 (December)

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2 hours ago

Dec 1, 2023

GolfWRX Staff

Tony Finau’s what’s in the bag accurate as of the Hero World Challenge.

Driver: Ping G430 LST (9 degrees @7) Buy.
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 70 TX

3-wood: Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond T (14 degrees) Buy here.
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 80 TX

Irons: Nike Vapor Fly Pro (3) Buy here, Ping Blueprint (4-PW) Buy here.
Shafts: Graphite Design Tour AD DI 105 Hybrid X (3), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 TX

Wedges: Ping Glide 4.0 (50-12S, 56-12S) Buy here, Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60-T) Buy here.
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 125 Wedge S

Putter: Ping PLD Anser 2D prototype Buy here.
Grip: Garsen Golf Ultimate

Grips: Lamkin UTx Mid

Ball: Titleist Pro V1 Left Dot Buy here.

See the rest of Tony Finau’s WITB in the forums.

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Whats in the Bag

Jordan Spieth WITB 2023 (December)

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2 hours ago

Dec 1, 2023

GolfWRX Staff

Jordan Spieth’s what’s in the bag accurate as of the Hero World Challenge.

Driver: Titleist TSR2 (10 degrees @9.25) Buy here.
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X

3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees) Buy here.
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue 75 TX

Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Buy here.
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD Hybrid IZ 95 X

Irons: Titleist T100 (2023) (4-9) Buy here.
Shafts: Project X 125 6.5

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @47, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5) Buy here, Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60-T @60.5) Buy here.
Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60)

Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 prototype Buy here.
Grip: SuperStroke Zenergy Flatso 1.0