WRX Forum Buzzz
What GolfWRXers are saying about ways to combat bomb-and-gouge golf
In our forums, our members have been discussing ways to combat bomb-and-gouge golf. WRXer ‘EmporerPenguin’ kicks off the thread with his ideas, saying:
“1. For the first 270 yards the fairway will be generous: 35-40 yards wide with standard 1.75″ collars and rough at 2.5” tall.
2. From 270-300 yards the fairway narrows to about 30-35 yards, with two-yard collars at 1.75″ tall; graduated rough with first cut ten-yards wide and rough 3.5″ tall; primary rough at 5″ to 6″ tall.
3. From 300-330 yards narrow the fairways to about 26 yards wide with two-yard collars at 1.75″ tall; no first cut but primary rough at 5″ to 6″ tall.
4. From 330-400 yards the fairways are still 26 yards wide with two-yard collars at 1.75″ tall; go straight to uniform, primary rough after that at 7″ to 10″ tall.”
Our members have been discussing the modern game and putting forward their ideas on the matter in our forum.
- Joe Smoeter: “I’ve been saying for years the rough should be graduated from green to tee not from side to side. 10 inches at 320, 8 inches at 300, 5 inches at 280 etc… whatever the formula. This is no different than having fairway bunkers at certain distances; it makes the players decide on the risk/reward. As it is now a 3 wood off the tee that gets a bad bounce is in the same thick rough as BD bomb 350 off the tee 40 yards left! Makes no sense.”
- miamistomp: “Smaller greens, shrubs closer to fairway and adjacent fairways ob.”
- jons1: “Balls need to spin more… it will cause more offline shots and force a more conservative swing and play. It’s the ball; it always has been. You don’t fix that; you’ll never change it.”
- 3whacker: “Lengthening a golf course isn’t always the answer because greens are designed to accept a certain trajectory shot from a certain # range of irons. When pros are hitting 8 irons close to 200 yards into a green that was designed to accept a mid to long iron it becomes defenseless.. Does anyone wonder why TW doesn’t play the stinger more often? its because the newer ball doesn’t allow it, it’s all about launch angle and lift, they have used simple aerodynamics and applied it to the golf ball and the driver, and have learned to launch the ball to angles and distance not easily reachable by the amateur golfer.”
- RSinSG: “Others have mentioned it, and I concur – make the pro and his caddy find their own ball. No marshals with little flags to start with. It will be hard to do with a gallery, but it would for sure make hitting into deep rough risky.”
Equipment
Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:
“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.
I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.
I am currently looking Callaway’s CB12 and Cleveland’s CBZ. Anyone have thoughts on these? Or recommendations of other wedges that I should check out?”
And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- boggyman: “CBZs are amazing wedges!”
- drewbens: “Agreed, the Cleveland CB wedges are great! Already had a CBX Full Face 2 54 and recently added a 50 and 58 (for well under $100 a piece). Was chipping so well last week that my brother-in-law asked if the wedges were legal. Definitely underrated wedges for those of us that are not scratch golfers.”
- BogeyTed: “Get Cleveland CBX/CBZ. Very underrated clubs.”
Entire Thread: “Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:
“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.
I am short in stature, as well as a very short wrist to floor of 30.5″. I went down a rabbit hole of wanting to try irons 1″ shorter of more than standard length. Given the shorter lengths, the swingweights would be super light unless I added back a ton of weight to the heads, but I don’t like adding an extreme amount of weight back to the heads, so I decided to compensate with heavier shafts (115 grams instead of 95). Played with this set for a while and was hitting all irons extremely poorly. Thin, fat, right, right, left. My swing didn’t deteriorate that much because I was hitting my driver well, woods well, etc.
Went back to my older set of irons, playing at standard length, and my iron play improved immediately. Since then, have been doing more testing, while paying more attention to different possible variables. What I have found is I actually prefer lighter total weight with relatively normal or slightly heavier swingweights. Did a recent fitting and found that 85 gram shafts were better for me than 95 grams with standard length and relatively standard swingweights.
Still trying to dial in a final iron shaft choice, so have a few contenders that I will be testing. Will be moving away from my current Steelfiber i95 S parallel to lighter and softer
- MMT 80 parallel R – worked pretty well in a limited number of swings at a fitting
- Fujikura Travil 85 R – the fitter liked the Axiom 95 R for me at Club Champion, but i didn’t love the effort required to swing them. If there was a 85 Axiom, that would probably have been a great fit. So i am going try a Travil 85 R which is japan only
- Steelfiber i80 CW R – i have been playing Steelfibers for a long time, so need to give one Steelfiber shaft a shot
Given I do club building work, I am going to build all of these shafts with the All-Fit universal iron adapters to pair with a Srixon 7 iron head for testing. With these adapters, there isn’t a swingweight issue because the amount of weight from drilling out is about equivalent to the universal adapter components.”
And our members have been sharing their reactions in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Mikey_HACKilroy: “That length cut costs you a fair amount in swing points. I’d posit the length mattered more than the weight because a 115g shaft isn’t going to actually add enough back after cutting an inch off. Does it mean 115 would ultimately work? Hard to say. Maybe try a 1/2″ cut and add 2g to the head to compensate assuming the 7i is 37″ long. Maybe that will feel better. It translates to the same ~D2 you’re swinging at with the 95g shafts (estimated based on common weight, but you can weigh your parts on your own obviously).”
- Stuart_G: “Your process is good – keep at it and trust it.”
Entire Thread: “I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react
A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.
The original version of the brand’s Secret Weapon launched in January of 2025, with the second version also featuring four distinct weight ports in the head and coming with 13-degree of loft.
In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- DTorres: “Kinda looks like the face on the new one might be slightly deeper. Little bit more rounded leading edge.”
- snagy2000: “The current version is REALLY good, long…This one looks like they’re bringing some lightning tech to it…”
- SEP1006: “Agree with this, hard to tell from that angle but looks like the face may be the same as the Lightning. If that’s the case may have to give this a serious look. Absolutely love my 2wd which is also a 13* loft. But that Lightning Tour Mid Driver face is hot and forgiving.”
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Evan
Sep 23, 2020 at 6:29 am
Grading rough to handicap longer hitters is a terrible idea. They’ve worked hard to develop their athleticism and technique-it’s a strength for their game and they should be allowed to fairly exploit it. And there will always be a natural trade off between power and accuracy- hitting a fairway with 130mph CHS will be harder than doing so with 110mph.