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2020 TaylorMade P7MB and P7MC irons: Pressure to perfection

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One word defines the new 2020 Taylormade P7MB and P7MC forged irons: Pressure.

It’s a word we all know and feel. For the best golfers in the world, it’s what they chase day in and day out. In the case of TaylorMade, the pressure to deliver time in and time out increases with every launch of a new product. It’s also the application of pressure and what it represents that makes this story so interesting.

Introducing the new 2020 TaylorMade P7MB and P7MC forged irons. Using the popular P730 and P750 irons as the starting point, Senior Manager of Product Creation for Irons Matt Bovee and his team have left no stone unturned to deliver a one-two punch that will please both P730/750 die-hards (yes, they exist) and any players who were on the edge.

With the help of modern technology, periodic feedback from the tour staff, and the admiration of classic forgings from TaylorMade’s past, the 2020 TaylorMade P-7MB, and P-7MC  accomplished just what was required—they created irons with serious curb appeal that stood up to the most discerning pallets in the world: TM’s iconic tour staff.

More photos and discussion in the forums. 

TaylorMade P7MB irons

The new 2020 TaylorMade P7MB irons

The new 2020 TaylorMade P7MB irons

It needs to be said at the start that these new TaylorMade irons live in a different bucket than Tiger’s P7TW. Although those irons are used by a few players on tour, they were essentially built for one man and one swing—that’s it. So as not to confuse the issue, the TaylorMade P7MB is a stand-alone project designed to go in the bags of the likes of Rory (where they already are), DJ, Collin Morikawa, and a number of others on the major tours.

P7MB: The beginning

Just over 14 months ago, the development of the P7MB began. The nice thing was, TaylorMade had a good jumping-off point—the P730 “DJ Proto.” Although that iron has the stock P730 optics from afar, the DJ Proto has a longer blade length and a more contemporary look at address then the retail version.

“The P7MB, as far as inspiration for it, is simply just the evolution from the last two to three models starting with the 2014 Tour Preferred MB”

-Matt Bovee, Taylor Made Lead Designer Irons

Looking down at the new 2020 TaylorMade P7MB, you will see the influence of the DJ Proto. A longer blade length (1.4 mm longer than P730) complemented by a thin top line, slightly less offset (6-iron: 1.5 mm vs 1.8 mm in P730), and a similar sole profile checks off every box that players at the highest level want to see.

Unfortunately, getting that part down is only half the riddle. In this day and age, muscle back irons live in a very small box as far as what you can do. Optics are one thing, and most get that right, it’s the sound and feel and turf interaction that separates the men from the boys.

So what’s new?

So, what exactly will players experience with the P7MB iron?

Although it’s every marketing rep’s dream to say “more everything in every category,” in this particular instance, it’s in the nuance and very fine details that TM has made upgrades. To be honest “more everything” isn’t the win here. The victory is delivering an iron that performs apples to apples with the P730 all while offering a traditional look, a dash of forgiveness with the longer blade length (1.4 mm longer), and even better sound and feel.

2020 TaylorMade P7MB top line

This is where the “pressure” story comes in. TaylorMade R&D wanted to ensure that every process that could get maxed out to make this iron flawless would. The industry standard for forging weight pressure is around 1,000 tons, TaylorMade utilizes a 2,000-ton forging press to push the quality tolerance of every 1025 carbon steel forging to its peak. In simple terms, it’s like putting so much pressure on something you squeeze the air and any opportunity for a blemish clean out.

Secondly, the back muscle has gone through a cosmetic change. This was made for two main reasons

  1. to look amazing in the bag
  2. to dial in CG as close to perfect as they could

As with previous TaylorMade offerings, the use of milling across the face ensures consistency and sharp lines—and offers scoring lines that have been a staple in most TaylorMade players clubs.

The new 2020 TaylorMade P7MB face on

The muscle on the P7MB features a three-dimensional section out near the toe to not only highlight the distribution of weight but to add a little cachet to an already stunning golf club.

“We wanted to add a third dimension to that back section in order to do something special and at the same time stick the CG exactly where our staff wants to see it.”

-Matt Bovee TM

Truth be told, the new 2020 TaylorMade P7MB is a contemporary throwback. More so than any other TM blade in recent history (with the exception of RAC MB), this blade has a look and feel that can stand the test of time.

More photos and discussion in the forums. 

Initial reactions on tour

I was told that during the marketing shoot at the Floridian last October a few of the TM staff got a first glance at the MB. This is always the first real test for someone in Matt Bovee’s position, that first eyeball reaction is huge. Get the wrong look and it could throw off the whole project, get a good look and momentum goes from cruising to a full sprint.

Down the line, it was admiration from the first three to see it—DJ, Collin, and Wolff—to Rory’s smile at first glance and ultimate quick integration going into Memorial.

“At the photoshoot last fall we showed the early prototype to Wolff and Morikawa and they were all over it immediately, their eyes lit up seeing only the head and at that point, I knew we were on to something special.”

-Matt Bovee TM

Speaking to the forgiveness part for a second. Rory has been a combo set player for a long time. The top of his iron set is typically a P760/750 3 and 4-iron and 5-PW the 730’s. After spending some time at home with the P7MB he felt the new MB’s were plenty forgiving top to bottom and showed up to Memorial with a full set of 3-PW.

Here is a quick peek at Rory’s first reaction from earlier this year…

Rory McIlroy’s bag, featuring 3-PW in TaylorMade P7MB.

The experience

I am by no means a player who is drawn to a forged muscle back. Maybe in the rare case, I’ll have it in 9/PW. The point is, they don’t provide enough help for a player like me. However, these are easy to hit, believe it or not. The longer blade length gives the appearance of a club that wants to square up, and I also appreciated the lines on the P7MB.

For the TaylorMade blade aficionados, the P7MB (to my eye) lives somewhere between the RAC MB and the 2014 Tour Preferred. The top-line is slightly straight, but not as much as the P7TW, and the toe shape could be called softly squared off. It’s an elegant design and doesn’t scare you sitting it down.

The acoustics are where you will experience that 2,000 tons of pressure—especially on a center-thin strike. The P730, when caught thin, sounded really thin, the P7MB does dull that out a bit and makes those shots a bit less painful than they could be.

I was able to go club-for-club with the P7TW, P730, and P7MB, and without getting into a data rabbit hole, I carried the P7MB about four yards further on average. Not a ton, but certainly enough to acknowledge.

P7MB: Overall

Winner, winner. Let’s be really honest here, what were the odds of this club not checking off every box? The muscle back war is won in the whole experience—from how it looks in the bag, to that first center strike, all the way to how it makes you feel as a player.

Is this club for 10 handicappers? No. 8’s? No. It was designed for the Rorys, DJs, and Collin Morikawas of the world. TaylorMade wanted to make a superb “staff blade” and Bovee and his crew did it. No small feat. The P730 was involved in a ton of great golf over the past three years—hard to improve on that. But they did—just in a very nuanced way. Well done.

Specs

Available for preorder on August 14, 2020, and in stores beginning September 4, 2020, P7MB irons ($1,399) will be offered in (3-PW) and come equipped with KBS Tour steel shafts (X 130g, S 120g) as well as the Golf Pride Z-Grip in grey/black. Available in RH and yes LH)

More photos and discussion in the forums. 

TaylorMade P7MC irons

Its predecessor, the P750, is arguably the best players cavity back TaylorMade has ever designed. With multiple wins across the world and a strong presence among top amateurs and college players, the P750 won players over for one main reason: simplicity.

So, when Matt Bovee and the team decided to go back in and build something new, there weren’t a lot of places to go beyond one or two ticks better. In this iron class, that’s all that is required.

Introducing the new 2020 TaylorMade P7MC players cavity back iron.

2020 TaylorMade P7MC

“We had a great foundation to work off of with the P750 so the main things we wanted to focus on was keeping the DNA of a great iron and simply making it sound and feel a little better and be a bit more appealing sitting in the bag.”

-Matt Bovee TM

Visuals

At address, the 2020 TaylorMade P7MC will look very similar to the P750—why mess with a good thing? The part of this iron that players will appreciate is the nod to TaylorMade heritage—i.e. the 2005 TP Forged and the Japan-only version.

More photos and discussion in the forums. 

So, what’s new?

Like its muscle back sibling, the 2020 TaylorMade P7MC incorporates the same 2,000-ton pressure forging to ensure the feel and sound are dialed in. This iron is also truly a one-piece forging, no titanium plugs, no extra badging no real bells, and whistles. The player will notice a slightly longer blade length (the P750), thin top line and a touch more offset then the P7MB.

It’s a simple clean players cavity back that looks amazing in the bag, behind the ball, and most likely on TV. Trust me, even that matters.

In addition, the milling process gives P7MC the sharp lines and grooves we can expect from TaylorMade forgings.

The New TaylorMade P7MC Face On

The experience

Like the P7MB, I had the chance to test the MC, and what I liked most about it was the lack of surprises. Yes, it’s stunning to look at, probably more so than any club TaylorMade had made in recent memory, including the P7TW. It’s gorgeous, but past that, the iron is just a workhorse. It has a crisp feel, plays very similar to the MB with the exception of mishits for obvious reasons. Simple, simple, simple. For the best players in the world, that’s all they want. Does it look good? Yes. Feel good? Yes. Most importantly will it take a long time to transition from my P750’s? No.

In this category, I like that. In the MB, MC category, a 1-2 percent improvement is all you really want to see.

Overall

It will come as a shock to no one, the 2020 TaylorMade P7MC is everything die-hard P750 players would want. The DNA of a great iron is there, they feel a bit better with the new pressure process, they look ridiculously cool, offer a pinch more forgiveness, and most importantly, they do the job.

Specs

 

Available for preorder on August 14 and at retail beginning September 4

P7MC irons ($1,399) will be offered in (3-PW) and come equipped with KBS Tour steel shafts (X 130g, S 120g) as well as the Golf Pride Z-Grip in grey/black. Available in RH and LH.

More photos and discussion in the forums. 

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Johnny Wunder is the Director of Original Content, Instagram Manager and Host of “The Gear Dive” Podcast for GolfWRX.com. He was born in Seattle, Wash., and grew up playing at Rainier G&CC. John is also a partner with The Traveling Picture Show Company having most recently produced JOSIE with Game of Thrones star Sophie Turner. In 1997 Johnny had the rare opportunity of being a clubhouse attendant for the Anaheim Angels. He now resides in Toronto, On with his wife and two sons. @johnny_wunder on IG

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  1. Robert Divinec

    Aug 25, 2020 at 8:55 am

    P7MB are not available LH

  2. Andrew Pitcher

    Aug 15, 2020 at 3:02 pm

    Hey guys,

    What is the length of the P7MC blade length relative to p760 or p750?

    Thanks!

  3. Lee Trevino

    Aug 11, 2020 at 10:33 am

    Has there ever been a bad review ever of any club on here?

  4. Will

    Aug 10, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    So will you be rolling with a combo then?

  5. Benny

    Aug 10, 2020 at 3:54 pm

    Great read JW. Thanks

  6. JD

    Aug 10, 2020 at 9:30 am

    Not sure why there is a permission problem to see more photos. You charging money for these now?

  7. Trevino

    Aug 10, 2020 at 7:48 am

    Yep, there goes my wallet.

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2021 TaylorMade SIM2 Launch Day Report: Everything you need to know about the new equipment from TaylorMade

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Today was the official launch day of the all-new 2021 TaylorMade SIM2 line of clubs, which includes drivers, fairways woods, hybrids, and irons. To summarize the newest release from the Carlsbad-based golf equipment company, for TaylorMade and the SIM2 line of clubs, it’s all about refining great products to increase speed and stability without sacrificing any of the distance golfers achieved from the original line.

If are looking for in-depth information, on the ins and outs of the new designs and the technology that makes them possible be sure to check out our full launch pieces below.

2021 TaylorMade SIM2 drivers: Better performance, piece by piece

TaylorMade SIM2 driver line

  1. Designers have taken every step to look at different materials and configurations to add forgiveness while maintaining the low spin characteristics of the original 2020 SIM design.
  2. No more sliding weight track. The sliding weight on the standard model has been removed to save mass and increase MOI (a measurement of forgiveness).
  3. Three different models to choose from with greater differentiation to help golfers get dialed in more effectively and find the design that is the best fit.
  4. More precision built into every part of the driver. The only way to make a golf club, especially a driver, better is to maximize the weight properties and geometry, and by painstakingly looking at every single component and manufacturing process, that’s exactly what TaylorMade has done.

2021 TaylorMade SIM2 fairway woods and hybrids: Building on a winning platform

Fairway woods

For 2021, TaylorMade engineers are upping their game and the SIM fairway wood platform with the launch of the TaylorMade SIM2, SIM2 Max, and SIM2 Max D (for draw) fairway woods. Each is designed to improve consistency, turf interaction, forgiveness, and reshape what is possible with each model in the line.

  • The SIM2 Titanium has a reconfigured heavy steel soleplate to go along with its 10cc smaller size to move the center of gravity farther back in the head to increase MOI. The Max and Max D models have also gotten larger to improve forgiveness.
  • Unlike the SIM2 Titanium, the SIM2 Max fairway has gotten bigger and now comes in at 190cc head in the 3-wood (compared to 185 in the 2020 version) to increase forgiveness, and although the head has gotten larger, it is still easy to elevate from tighter lies with the help of the newly redesigned two-step V Steel sole.
  • The unofficial motto of the SIM2 Max D should be “go big or go home.” It offers the largest head size at 195cc (in the 3-wood) and also has the largest face area to help those golfers who miss a bit more than they would like to admit.

Hybrids

To build on the success of the SIM Max rescue, TaylorMade has improved the original Max rescue and are also introducing an all-new model geared towards higher swing speed players looking for a hybrid that offers adjustability and workability with the 2021 (non-MAX) SIM Rescue, thanks to input from its tour staff, including Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson.

  • The SIM2 Rescue draws a lot of inspiration from previous TaylorMade and (some Adams) generation hybrids, including the popular ’09 Rescue TP—except with a whole lot more technology! The profile is compact with a higher squared-off toe to have a more “iron-like” appearance from address to help golfers find the perfect transition club from long irons to fairway woods.
  • The new SIM2 Max hybrid brings everything golfer loved from the previous version and added a newly refined sole geometry to increase forgiveness and deliver more consistent results. The SIM2 Max Rescue has a C300 maraging steel face and comes with the now-familiar Twist Face, which only became a feature in the Rescue line last year.

2021 TaylorMade SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS irons

The new Cap Back is a full cavity encasing polymer cap that connects and supports the topline without touching the face. It helps produce a higher MOI since the polymer material is seven-times lighter than the steel counterpart per g/cm3 and frees up more mass to be moved low in the head to raise stability—especially for shots missed around the face, which for golfers that fit into this iron category and going to do.

Beneath the Cap Back and behind the face on the new SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS irons, you will find an improved Echo Damping System which features a more concentrated HYBRAR material. The damping system stretches across the entire face (from heel to toe) using multiple contact points and also utilizes a softer polymer blend to channel away more unwanted vibrations.

Perspectives from the GolfWRX forums

mycowdog: Hit the 9* sim2, about a dozen swings. Easy to hit, nice launch and spin for me. I haven’t played a TM driver. Many more to test, but I was impressed.

Stanks: Will it get the M6 outta the bag?! Looks promising!

J-Zone: Spent time with both heads today, I think people will be thoroughly impressed once they have them in hand. They look much better than the pictures, and is a very premium looking driver. Did not have time to compare to SIM1.0, but they feel a bit more firm (subjective) with a muted thwack vs a longer ringing or ting sensation.The Max will be the home run for TM people who have a very neutral delivery or want consistent spin, and the Standard is going to fit anyone who wants to cut spin but not in a super alarming way.Max launched super easy, but I can see guys needing to go up in loft if they were in standard 1.0 and went standard 2.0.

More from the GolfWRX forums

GolfWRX’s resident equipment tester, Brian Knudson of the Club Junkie podcast, had this to say

SIM2: TaylorMade kept the sound and feel great, muted and very responsive. Offers a really neutral ball flight and skilled players will love to be able to work the ball with ease and precision. Misses of the toe still keep a decent amount of trajectory, but still lose some distance. The most penetrating flight of the 3 SIM2 drivers.

SIM2 Max: Very stable head and little higher ball flight than the SIM2. Little more spin than SIM2, can see a little rise with shots into the wind. Shots hit off the low heal carry straighter and farther than last year’s SIM Max. Straighter misses for me on all shots that I was hitting.

SIM2 Ti fairway: The sound and feel are really good and love the smaller profile from address. Slightly more of a “crack” sound at impact. Could really feel the ball compress off the face and it seemed to really come off hot. Ball launches higher than last year, even on miss hits. Toe and heel mishits stay on line really well, would easily keep those shots in the fairway. Fairway just wants to get straight, little harder to work the ball and flight shots down. Pretty neutral ball flight with maybe just a touch of natural draw.

SIM 2 Max fairway: Good sound, little more metallic and higher pitched than its titanium sibling. Head is very stable and might have offered a little more forgiveness than the Ti. Higher ball flight and little more spin, but well struck shots carry a long well. Slices and hooks tend to have a little less curvature to those shots.

SIM2 Max Hybrid: High ball flight that carries a good distance. Easy to square up the club and find the center of the face repeatedly. Shots hit low on the face still get way up in the air and carry really well. Harder to hit fades since there is some draw built into the head, but overall the ball wants to go straight.

SIM2 Rescue: Sound and feel are very muted, heavy “crack” at impact. Penetrating ball flight that is flat, but you can still get the ball off the turf without too much effort. Pretty straight ball flight with more emphasis on the ball wanting to fall right. Easy to work the ball and flight it down as low as you would like. Shots even struck on the toe didn’t draw much and still stayed on a better line that I expected from a smaller club head.

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GolfWRX Classifieds (01/19/21): PXG driver, Toulon Portland, TaylorMade Spider

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At GolfWRX, we love golf equipment plain and simple

We are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment for the game in many ways. It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball, it even allows us to share another thing – the equipment itself.

One of the best ways to enjoy equipment is to experiment and whether you are looking to buy-sell-or trade (as the name suggests) you can find almost anything in the GolfWRX BST Forum. From one-off custom Scotty Cameron Circle T putters, to iron sets, wedges, and barely hit drivers, you can find it all in our constantly updated marketplace.

These are some of the latest cool finds from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

Member 03trdblack – PXG 0811 XF Gen 2 Head

The MOI is high and the price is low on this 0811 XF driver head. Get it while the getting’s good!

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: PXG Driver head

Member endy – Toulon Portland

Whether it’s Portland, Maine, Portland, Oregon, or Portland by Toulon—all are great, but only one is a putter.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: Toulon Portland 

Member brushie – TaylorMade MySpider

Does winter have you feeling a little blue? Well, cheer up because now you can get a putter that just so happens to match that particular hue.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: TaylorMade Spider

Remember that you can always browse the GolfWRX Classifieds any time here in our forums: GolfWRX Classifieds

You can also follow along on Instagram: GolfWRX Classifieds

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2021 TaylorMade SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS irons

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The 2021 SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS irons from TaylorMade are about bringing together key technologies from the previous generation and combining it with their all-new Cap Back cavity design to increase distance with more face flex and improve sound by completely changing the cavity design.

What’s new in the SIM2 Max irons

2021 TaylorMade SIM2 Irons

What started out as SpeedBridge, which we should note would make a great title for a Keanu Reeves action thriller/car movie that somehow has its culminating scene take place on a bridge, in the SIM Max and SIM Max OS irons has evolved to something bigger—dare we call it a sequel—with the all-new Cap Back.

What is Cap Back?

SIM2 Max iron Capback

The Cap Back design of the new 2021 SIM2 Max irons replaces the metal speed bridge that ran from the rear of the sole to the top line of the 2020 models. This little strip of metal created tension to help support the topline and allowed engineers to bring more weight from the top of the iron low to lower the center of gravity and increase launch.

2020 SIM2 iron with SpeedBridge

It also allowed the face to flex like a big oversized tennis racket to create more ball speed around a larger area.

The new Cap Back is a full cavity encasing polymer cap that connects and supports the topline without touching the face. It helps produce a higher MOI since the polymer material is seven-times lighter than the steel counterpart per g/cm3 and frees up more mass to be moved low in the head to raise stability—especially for shots missed around the face, which for golfers that fit into this iron category and going to do.

Faster Sim2 Max face

“We set out to take game improvement irons to the next level with SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS. To create Cap Back Design, we utilized multi-material advancements learned from our metalwoods to unlock forgiveness and distance with forged iron like feel. We leveraged a completely new construction to achieve the performance that golfers in this category both need and want.”

– Matt Bovee, Product Creation | Irons Category

SIM2 Max and Max OS iron technology

2021 TaylorMade SIM2 Max OS irons cavity

All-new Echo Damping System

Beneath the Cap Back and behind the face on the new SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS irons, you will find an improved Echo Damping System which features a more concentrated HYBRAR material. The damping system stretches across the entire face (from heel to toe) using multiple contact points and also utilizes a softer polymer blend to channel away more unwanted vibrations.

SIM2 Max OS vs. SIM2 Max sole profile

This vibration channeling helps contribute to what TaylorMade likes to call a forged-like feel while still promoting maximum face flex.

Progressive Inverted Cone Technology

TaylorMade’s Inverted Cone Technology (ICT) is strategically positioned into each SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS iron as a way to help increase the sweet spot and minimize mis-hits.

The reason for this is shots hit on the toe of longer irons generally result in a miss to the right, TaylorMade engineers have positioned the ICT towards the toe in both SIM2 Max and SIMs Max OS irons to counteract this. Through this move, the engineers have created a draw bias in the longer irons to minimize this common miss without resorting to adding additional offset typically found in larger game improvement designs.

Other technology carryovers from the previous generations that can be found in the SIM2 Max irons include the fluted hosel, 360° undercut cavity -now positioned under the polymer cap back, and an ultra-thin face.

What makes the Max OS irons different?

Sim2 Max OS vs Sim2 Max from address

The SIM2 Max OS irons are everything the SIM Max irons are and more, including everything you would expect from a maximum game improvement irons are packed with all the same technology of the SIM2 Max irons but put together in a wider-soled, lower CG, stronger lofted, more draw-biased package to help golfers that are looking for every advantage.

Specs, pricing, and availability

The SIM2 Max and Max OS irons will be available for preorder starting January 19 and will be in retail locations beginning February 10.

Both sets will be priced at $799 steel (KBS Max MT 85 steel ) and $899 graphite (Fujikura’s Ventus Blue graphite, 7S, 6R & 5A) in 7 piece set configurations 4-pitching wedge – which is a departure from the way TaylorMade has assembled stock sets in the past. This allows golfers to choose whether they would prefer to order the matching wedges for the set – which include a gap wedge, sand wedge, and lob wedge, or go with something else to find proper gapping.

The SIM2 Max and SIM2 Max OS irons will also be available for women and come outfitted with the Aldila NV Ladies iron shaft and the Lamkin Ladies Sonar grip.

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