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What GolfWRXers are saying about dropping a middle club from their bag

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the validity of dropping a middle club from their bag. WRXer ‘joostin’ is considering leaving his 5-iron out of his bag in favor of adding an extra wedge or long club, and our members have been having their say on the strategy in our forums.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Christen_The_Sloop: “It makes more sense to take one from one of the ends as they are more “extreme.” It really depends on the course, if you are a better player, which I am not these days. It doesn’t matter which 14 I take out I wish I had to two different or vice versa.”
  • Rapidcat: “I don’t play a 5 iron, my gapping between 5 and 6 is only 8 yards in carry. I lengthened my 6 iron by half inch and as such gapping is workable between 7 to 6 to 4. May choose to weaken my 4 iron by a degree but need to do some testing post-Covid.”
  • hagimihale: “I took my 5i out of the bag. Choke down on a 4 where needed (and I don’t miss the 5). Gives me an extra spot to use depending on the course I’m playing. Currently go back and forth between a 3rd wedge, or a DI for windy days when I want a low-running shot off the tee.”
  • MelloYellow: “There is something that feels distinctly temporary about removing an iron, like even if it works it’s not destined to last very long. I can’t say there’s anything wrong with it given that my 4i and 5i are far and away my least-used clubs. But I still don’t think I would ever permanently remove one. Again, I think this only makes sense if you (1) play the same course all the time and (2) never seem to hit it off the tee or on approach shots. If that’s the case, it’s hard to believe a soft 4 or a firm 6 could suffice as said above.”
  • LCP: “Technically, I jump from a “strong” 5 iron to a 2 iron (G410 5 iron at 22º with an X100 shaft to a U85 2 iron at 18º with a Modus 105X shaft). That’s with 4 wedges at the short end, and a strong 5 wood, strong 3 wood and driver at the long end. I feel there’s a bit of a gap there, but it’s really due to the low launch of the 2 iron making its distance inconsistent because of launch angle and rollout varying so much. But it’s the club I want off the tee on tighter par 4’s that aren’t too long. With X-flex swing speed, you really have to make some compromises on gaps if you’re not playing 15-16 clubs.”

Entire Thread: “Dropping a middle club from the bag”

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4 Comments

  1. T.Bob

    May 19, 2020 at 2:09 am

    Still have the 5 iron in my bag but it’s probably the club I use the least.
    Set up is:
    Driver
    Hybrid 2, loft 16 (hit it about as long as my previous 15.5 degree spoon, but is much easier to hit and more versatile)
    Hybrid 4, loft 22,
    5 iron-PW
    4 wedges (48, 52, 56 and 60 degrees)
    Putter

    I think a lot of golfers would benefit from throwing out one of their woods (need for 3W and 5W?) and replace them with a long hybrid instead.

  2. Bob Jones

    May 17, 2020 at 11:36 am

    Driver, 16.5* and 20.5* fairway woods, 4-9i, PGSL wedges, putter. If you want four wedges, there they are, and there are no gaps in the set.

  3. NormW

    May 15, 2020 at 10:35 am

    Honest question: In your reaction poll: what does IDHT mean?

  4. ChipNRun

    May 13, 2020 at 6:35 pm

    When lots of people went to four wedges, here’s how people got space: They went to Driver, 3W, 5W, 3i, 5i-PW, GSL, putter.

    Basically, people dropped the 4i, strengthened 5i loft, and kept the 3i as a driving iron/rough exit tool.

    Likewise, the early circa-2016 “Hogan resurrection option:” 22*, 27*, 32* and four-degree loft increments up through the wedges. With 5-degree loft gaps in the longer irons, easy to squeeze out a club.

    But, Hogan eventually went to 4* loft increments up and down the line.

    If you really want to see some customized iron-set surgery, go to Pelz: The Short Game Bible, Chap. 10, Section 1: Generic set make-up (and how to tweak it).

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Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:

“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.

I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.

I am currently looking Callaway’s CB12 and Cleveland’s CBZ. Anyone have thoughts on these? Or recommendations of other wedges that I should check out?”

And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • boggyman: “CBZs are amazing wedges!”
  • drewbens: “Agreed, the Cleveland CB wedges are great! Already had a CBX Full Face 2 54 and recently added a 50 and 58 (for well under $100 a piece). Was chipping so well last week that my brother-in-law asked if the wedges were legal. Definitely underrated wedges for those of us that are not scratch golfers.”
  • BogeyTed: “Get Cleveland CBX/CBZ. Very underrated clubs.”

Entire Thread: “Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss”

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From the GolfWRX Classifieds: Ping PLD Ally Blue Onset putter

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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals who all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.

It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, @negncic has a Ping PLD Ally Blue Onset putter up for grabs.

From the listing: “34” Ping PLD Ally Blue Onset. Ping composite shaft Ping PLD Pistol grip. No issues. $345 shipped.”

To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link. If you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum, you can learn more here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:

“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.

I am short in stature, as well as a very short wrist to floor of 30.5″. I went down a rabbit hole of wanting to try irons 1″ shorter of more than standard length. Given the shorter lengths, the swingweights would be super light unless I added back a ton of weight to the heads, but I don’t like adding an extreme amount of weight back to the heads, so I decided to compensate with heavier shafts (115 grams instead of 95). Played with this set for a while and was hitting all irons extremely poorly. Thin, fat, right, right, left. My swing didn’t deteriorate that much because I was hitting my driver well, woods well, etc.

Went back to my older set of irons, playing at standard length, and my iron play improved immediately. Since then, have been doing more testing, while paying more attention to different possible variables. What I have found is I actually prefer lighter total weight with relatively normal or slightly heavier swingweights. Did a recent fitting and found that 85 gram shafts were better for me than 95 grams with standard length and relatively standard swingweights. 

Still trying to dial in a final iron shaft choice, so have a few contenders that I will be testing. Will be moving away from my current Steelfiber i95 S parallel to lighter and softer

  • MMT 80 parallel R – worked pretty well in a limited number of swings at a fitting
  • Fujikura Travil 85 R – the fitter liked the Axiom 95 R for me at Club Champion, but i didn’t love the effort required to swing them. If there was a 85 Axiom, that would probably have been a great fit. So i am going try a Travil 85 R which is japan only
  • Steelfiber i80 CW R – i have been playing Steelfibers for a long time, so need to give one Steelfiber shaft a shot

Given I do club building work, I am going to build all of these shafts with the All-Fit universal iron adapters to pair with a Srixon 7 iron head for testing. With these adapters, there isn’t a swingweight issue because the amount of weight from drilling out is about equivalent to the universal adapter components.”

And our members have been sharing their reactions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Mikey_HACKilroy: “That length cut costs you a fair amount in swing points. I’d posit the length mattered more than the weight because a 115g shaft isn’t going to actually add enough back after cutting an inch off. Does it mean 115 would ultimately work? Hard to say. Maybe try a 1/2″ cut and add 2g to the head to compensate assuming the 7i is 37″ long. Maybe that will feel better. It translates to the same ~D2 you’re swinging at with the 95g shafts (estimated based on common weight, but you can weigh your parts on your own obviously).”
  • Stuart_G: “Your process is good – keep at it and trust it.”

Entire Thread: “I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss”

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